House of Lords Journal Volume 19
12 January 1711

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'House of Lords Journal Volume 19: 12 January 1711', Journal of the House of Lords: volume 19: 1709-1714 (1767-1830), pp. 191-193. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=29891 Date accessed: 02 September 2014.


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DIE Veneris, 12 Januarii.

REGINA.

Domini tam Spirituales quam Temporales præsentes fuerunt:

Arch. Ebor.
Epus. Dunelm.
Epus. Winton.
Epus. Roffen.
Epus. Sarum.
Epus. Lich. & Cov.
Epus. Eliens.
Epus. Petriburg.
Epus. Bangor.
Epus. Carliol.
Epus. Bath & Well.
Epus. Lincoln.
Epus. Landaven.
Epus. Exon.
Epus. Cestr.
Epus. Norwic.
Epus. Asaph.
Epus. Bristol.
Epus. Meneven.
Ds. Custos Magni Sigilli.
Comes Rochester, Præses.
Dux Newcastle, C. P. S.
Dux Buckingham, Senescallus.
Dux Shrewsbury, Camerarius.
Dux Richmond.
Dux Grafton.
Dux Ormonde.
Dux Beaufort.
Dux Northumberland.
Dux Bolton.
Dux Leeds.
Dux Bedford.
Dux Devonshire.
Dux Marlborough.
Dux Hamilton.
Dux Atholl.
Dux Dover.
Dux Kent.
March. Lindsey, Magnus Camerarius.
March. Dorchester.
March. Annandale.
Comes Derby.
Comes Pembrooke.
Comes Lincoln.
Comes Dorset & Midd'x.
Comes Bridgewater.
Comes Leicester.
Comes Northampton.
Comes Denbigh.
Comes Westmorland.
Comes Berkshire.
Comes Rivers.
Comes Peterborow.
Comes Stamford.
Comes Winchilsea.
Comes Thanet.
Comes Sunderland.
Comes Scarsdale.
Comes Clarendon.
Comes Cardigan.
Comes Anglesea.
Comes Yarmouth.
Comes Berkeley.
Comes Nottingham.
Comes Abingdon.
Comes Plimouth.
Comes Portland.
Comes Scarbrough.
Comes Orford.
Comes Jersey.
Comes Grantham.
Comes Greenwich.
Comes Wharton.
Comes Poulet.
Comes Godolphin.
Comes Marischall.
Comes Mar.
Comes Eglintoun.
Comes Home.
Comes Kinnoull.
Comes Loudoun.
Comes Northesk.
Comes Orkney.
Comes Roseberrie.
Comes I'lay.
Viscount Say & Seale.
Viscount Weymouth.
Viscount Kilsyth.
Ds. Dartmouth.
Ds. Delawar.
Ds. Ferrers.
Ds. Fitzwalter.
Ds. Howard Eff.
Ds. North & Grey.
Ds. Chandos.
Ds. Hunsdon.
Ds. Howard Esc.
Ds. Mohun.
Ds. Byron.
Ds. Vaughan.
Ds. Rockingham.
Ds. Lexington.
Ds. Berkeley Str.
Ds. Cornwallis.
Ds. Craven.
Ds. Osborne.
Ds. Ossulstone.
Ds. Stawell.
Ds. Guilford.
Ds. Ashburnham.
Ds. Weston.
Ds. Herbert.
Ds. Haversham.
Ds. Sommers.
Ds. Halifax.
Ds. Gernsey.
Ds. Hervey.
Ds. Cowper.
Ds. Balmerino.
Ds. Blantyre.

PRAYERS.

Sir H. Monoux's Bill.

Hodie 2a vice lecta est Billa, intituled, "An Act for Sale of Lands and Tenements late of Sir Philip Monoux Baronet, deceased, in Broome and Parish of Southill, in the County of Bedford, according to his Will.

Ordered, That the Consideration of the said Bill be committed to the Lords following; (videlicet,)

Comes Rochester, Præses.
Dux Beaufort.
Dux Bolton.
Dux Devonshire.
Dux Hamilton.
Dux Atholl.
March. Dorchester.
Comes Lincoln.
Comes Dorset & Midd'x.
Comes Northampton.
Comes Berkshire.
Comes Stamford.
Comes Winchilsea.
Comes Thanet.
Comes Clarendon.
Comes Anglesea.
Comes Yarmouth.
Comes Nottingham.
Comes Scarbrough.
Comes Jersey.
Comes Greenwich.
Comes Marischall.
Comes Eglintoun.
Comes Loudoun.
Comes I'lay.
Viscount Say & Seale.
Viscount Weymouth.
Viscount Kilsyth.
Arch. Ebor.
Epus. Dunelm.
Epus. Sarum.
Epus. Eliens.
Epus. Bangor.
Epus. Carliol.
Epus. Lincoln.
Epus. Exon.
Epus. Cestr.
Epus. Norwic.
Epus. Bristol.
Epus. Meneven.
Ds. Dartmouth.
Ds. Delawar.
Ds. Ferrers.
Ds. North & Grey.
Ds. Chandos.
Ds. Howard Escr.
Ds. Mohun.
Ds. Rockingham.
Ds. Berkeley Str.
Ds. Guilford.
Ds. Ashburnham.
Ds. Herbert.
Ds. Sommers.
Ds. Halifax.
Ds. Gernsey.
Ds. Cowper.
Ds. Balmerino.
Ds. Blantyre.

Their Lordships, or any Five of them; to meet on Saturday the Twenty-seventh Day of this Instant January, at Ten a Clock in the Forenoon, in the Prince's Lodgings near the House of Peers; and to adjourn as they please.

Green versus Green.

Upon reading the Petition of William Grene Appellant, and Johanna and John Grene Respondents; praying a Day may be appointed, for hearing the Appeal of the said William Grene:

It is Ordered, by the Lords Spiritual and Temporal in Parliament assembled, That this House will hear the said Cause, by Counsel, at the Bar, on Thursday the Twenty-fifth Day of this Instant January, at Eleven a Clock.

List of Officers not at the Battle of Almanza.

The House being informed, "Mr. Lynn, from the Secretary at War, attended;" he was called in, and at the Bar, delivered a Paper, intituled, as follows:

"A List of those Officers that were upon the Establishment in Spain, and not at the Battle of Almanza."

Ordered, by the Lords Spiritual and Temporal in Parliament assembled, That a Muster Roll, or List, of the Names of all Commission Officers that were upon the Establishment for the Service in Spain in One Thousand Seven Hundred and Seven; and a particular List of the Names of those Officers that were at the Battle of Almanza, as also a List of the Names of all the Officers that were absent, and where they were at that Time, be laid before this House.

State of the War in Spain:

Then the House (according to Order) was adjourned during Pleasure, and put into a Committee, to take into further Consideration the present State of the War in Spain.

After some Time, the House was resumed.

And the following Order was made:

Address for Privy Counsellors, &c. to have Leave to communicate Matters relative to it:

"Ordered, by the Lords Spiritual and Temporal in Parliament assembled, That the Lords with White Staves do attend Her Majesty, from this House, humbly to desire, That Her Majesty will please to give Leave to any Lords, or others, that are or were of Her Majesty's Cabinet Council, or any Lord of this House, to lay before this House any Letters or Papers, or communicate to this House any Matter, relating to the War in Spain."

The House was adjourned during Pleasure.

The House was resumed.

Queen's Answer.

And the Lord Steward reported, "That the Lords with White Staves having (according to Order) attended Her Majesty, with the Desire of this House, That She would be pleased to give Leave to any Lords, or others, that are or were of Her Majesty's Cabinet Council, or any Lord of this House, to lay before this House any Letters or Papers, or communicate to this House any Matter, relating to the War in Spain;" Her Majesty had been pleased to give Leave accordingly."

State of the War in Spain:

Then the House was adjourned during Pleasure, and put again into a Committee.

After a long Time spent therein, the House was resumed.

And the Earl of Abingdon reported, "That the Committee had come to the Two following Resolutions; (videlicet,)

Resolution censuring the Conduct of the Ministers, for approving an Offensive War in Spain:

1. "That it appears, by the Earl of Sunderland's Letters, that the carrying on the War offensively in Spain was approved and directed by the Ministers, notwithstanding the Design of attempting Thoulon, which the Ministers at that Time knew was concerted with the Duke of Savoy; and therefore are justly to be blamed, for contributing to all our Misfortunes in Spain, and to the Disappointment of the Expedition against Thoulon."

Resolution approving of the E. of Peterborow's Conduct in Spain.

2. "That the Earl of Peterborow, during the Time he had the Honour of commanding the Army in Spain, did perform many great and eminent Services; and, if the Opinion he gave in the Council of War in Valencia had been followed, it might very probably have prevented the Misfortunes that have since happened in Spain."

Then the first Resolution being read by the Clerk;

The Question was put, "That the House do agree with the Committee in this Resolution?"

It was Resolved in the Affirmative.

Protest against the First Resolution.

"Dissentient.

"Because that, considering the Army of the Allies in Spain was to receive so great an Addition of Troops by the Supply sent under the Earl Rivers, the general Desire and Expectation of the Kingdom to have the War brought to a speedy Conclusion, and all other Circumstances of the War as it then stood, we are of Opinion, that an Offensive War was then fittest for those in Her Majesty's Service to advise: And we do not find Reason, by any Thing arising on the Examinations and Debates, to be of another Opinion; the Occasion of fighting the Battle of Almanza depending, as we conceive, on Causes subsequent to that Advice; the ill Success of it, as we apprehend, being justly attributed to other manifest Reasons; and the real Design on Thoulon, as finally adjusted with the Duke of Savoy and afterwards pursued, not requiring, as appears to us, the Assistance of any Force from Spain.

"Devonshire.
Bolton.
"Jon. Winton.
"Ric. Peterb.
"W. Carliol.
"Marlborough.
Berkeley.
"W. Lincoln.
"C. Norwich.
Kent.
Bedford.
"Dorchester.
"W. Asaph.
"Lincoln.
T. Wharton.
"Jo. Landaff.
"Leicester.
Orford.
"Stamford.
"J. Bridgewater.
"Sunderland.
Rockingham.
"Herbert.
"Godolphin.
"Dorset.
Mohun.
Scarbrough.
"Gl. Sarum.
"Hervey.
J. Ely.
Jo. Lichfield & Cov.
"Derby.
Cowper.
Somers.
"Ashburnham.
"Jo. Bangor."

Then, the Second Resolution being read;

The Question was put, "That the House do agree with the Committee in this Resolution?"

It was Resolved in the Affirmative.

Ordered, That on Monday next, at Twelve a Clock, this House shall be put into a Committee again, to proceed further in Consideration of the present State of the War in Spain.

Thanks of the House to the Earl of Peterborow:

Ordered, by the Lords Spiritual and Temporal in Parliament assembled, That the Lord Keeper do immediately give the Earl of Peterborow the Thanks of this House, for his eminent and remarkable Services to his Queen and Country, during his Command in Spain.

Then the Lord Keeper gave the Earl of Peterborow the Thanks of the House, as follows:

"My Lord Peterborow,

"I am commanded, by my Lords, to return their Thanks to your Lordship, for your many eminent and faithful Services to your Queen and Country, during your Command in Spain.

"My Lord,

"The Thanks of this Illustrious Assembly is an Honour which has been rarely paid to any Subject; but never after a stricter Inquiry into the Nature of any Service, upon a more mature Deliberation, or with greater Justice, than at this Time to your Lordship.

"Such is your Lordship's known Generosity and truly noble Temper, that, I assure myself, the Present I am now offering to your Lordship is the more acceptable, as it comes pure and unmixed, and is unattended with any other Reward; which your Lordship might justly think would be an Allay to it.

"My Lord,

"Had more Days been allowed me than I have had Minutes, to call to Mind the wonderful and amazing Success which perpetually attended your Lordship in Spain (the Effect of your Lordship's personal Bravery and Conduct), I would not attempt the enumerating your particular Services; since I should offend your Lordship by the Mention of such as I could recollect, and give a just Occasion of Offence to this Honourable House by my involuntary Omission of the far greater Part of them.

"Had your Lordship's wise Counsels, particularly your Advice at the Council of War in Valencia, been pursued in the following Campaign; the fatal Battle of Almanza, and our greatest Misfortunes which have since happened in Spain, had been prevented; and the Design upon Thoulon might have happily succeeded.

"I shall detain your Lordship no longer, than, in Obedience to the Order I have received, to return your Lordship, as I do, the Thanks of this House, for your eminent and remarkable Services to your Queen and Country, during your Command in Spain."

To which the Earl of Peterborow replied:

E. of Peterborow's Reply.

"My Lords,

"For the great Honour and Favour I have received from your Lordships, I return my most humble Thanks, with a Heart full of the greatest Respect and Gratitude. No Services can deserve such a Reward; it is more than a sufficient Recompence for any past Hardships, and to which nothing can give an Addition. I cannot reproach myself with any Want of Zeal for the Public Service. But your Lordships Approbation of what I was able to do, towards serving my Queen and Country, gives me new Life; and I shall endeavour, in all my future Actions, not to appear unworthy of the unmerited Favour I have received To-day from this great Assembly."

Adjourn.

Dominus Custos Magni Sigilli declaravit præsens Parliamentum continuandum esse usque ad et in diem Lunæ, decimum quintum diem instantis Januarii, hora undecima Auroræ, Dominis sic decernentibus.