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|Lord Bishop of London,|
E. of Cleveland's Privilege. Hancocke arreted.
Upon the Reading of the Petition of James Hancocke,
Servant to the Right Honourable the Earl of Cleveland,
complaining that he is arrested, in Contempt of the Privilege of this House, by one Bradshaw, and detained Prisoner in The Compter of Wood-strect; and that
the said Bradshaw intends to obtain a Judgement and Execution against him, now he is in Prison; it is Ordered, That the said Execution be stayed; and that the Serjeant at Arms bring hither the said James Hancocke on
Saturday next; and also that he bring hither the said
Bradshawe at that Time, to answer his Contempt.
According to the Order of the Second of this March,
the Lord Bishop of Lincolne sent his Answer, subscribed
by his Lordship, unto the Complaint of Tymothy Pinckney, which was read, in hæc verba: videlicet,
"May it please your most Illustrious and most Honourable Lordships.
Bishop of Lincoln's Answer to Pinckney's Complaint.
"To that Petition of Tymothie Pinckney, sent unto me
by Order of that most Honourable House, bearing
Date 2 Martii 1625, together with the Depositions
of Kenneday, Ferrers, Kellwood, and one Ann Pinckney, relating to the same, and another controverted
Order of that most Honourable House, bearing Date
28 Maii 1624; I hope your most Honourable Lordships will conceive it is impossible for me, during my
Abode in this Place, and in the Compass of Six or
Seven Days, to make any legal or final Answer, as
well for the Uncertainty of the Charge in the Petition, and especially in the Affidavits concerning some
Words pretended to be spoken by me very near Two
Years sithence, without assigning the Day of the
Month, the particular Place, and the Persons present (as, under Favour, they ought to do); as principally destitute of Counsel Learned (now especially
in Time of the Assizes); eloigne from the Sight of
the Journal Books, and Conference with the Clerk of
that most Honourable House; from the Multitude of
Orders, hereunto relating, registered in the Chancery, not easily to be found but in Term-time; from the
Conference with the Master of the Rolls, and divers
of the Judges, now absent in their Circuits, who
have (as I verily believe) satisfied the Expectation of
this Order in Question; from all Speech with my
late Secretaries, now out of my Service; and most
especially from my Want of Memory, that never
groweth better in great Calamities.
"Being impossibilitated, therefore, by so many pressing and most evident Considerations, to make any Answer at all in so short a Time, and from this Place;
I most humbly beseech your most Honourable Lordships, to receive in good Part a short Satisfaction,
which I presume to offer unto your most Honourable
Lordships in the mean Time; desiring rather (I take
God to my Record) to be in my Grave than many
Days in the Suspicion of the least Contempt or Neglect of that most Honourable House.
"For the general, Non arbitramur quenquam dicere
quod non sentiat, I call God to witness, I never
thought, and consequently never speak, but with all
Duty, Awe, and Reverence, of the Orders of that
most Honourable House; nor ever, in my Life, neglected a Motion or Intimation made unto me by
any one of the Honourable Members of the same.
If, through human Weakness or Infirmity (wherein I
abounded), I have been so unfortunate as to give
Cause for any of the most Honourable Lords to conceive otherwise, I am sorry for it, and ready, in the
most humble Manner that can be prescribed, to give
"For the Particulars, I will first speak unto the Neglect objected in the Petition, and then to the offensive Speeches in the Assidavits, as near as my Memory (now upon the Point of Two Years after) shall
help me, but most truly and ingenuously, to the best
of my Remembrance.
"For the First, the Ground of all this Mistaking is
Mr. Clerk's, or his Man's Mistaking, of the Order
of 28 Maii 1624, and penning the same ambiguously, and not to the Sense and Direction of that
most Honourable House; the which could not possibly be rectified, because the House was adjourned
the next Day after. The Case was thus: The Lords
of the Committee made their Report just in the Manner as is set down in the Order. Whereupon I went
from the Wool-pack, and acquainted the House, that
my Honourable Lords of the Committee were not
well dealt withall by Pinckney, by reason this Cause
had been formerly referred, by the Parliament and
the King himself, to be heard in the Chancery, by
the Lord Keeper, the Master of the Rolls, and Two
or Three Judges, which Pinckney (it seems) concealed from their Lordships: That accordingly, after
Twenty Hearings (at the least), there was a final Decree made therein: That this Decree was put under
the Great Seal, and in Part executed: That the
Land was sold to one Crashaw, according unto the
same: That, their Lordships of the Committee taking
no Notice of this Decree, I conceived the most Honourable House would not revoke it, without Examination: That the very same Decree did appoint
the Master of the Rolls and Three Judges to receive
the Demands of all the Creditors, and to satisfy them
in Proportion out of the Surplusage of the Estate:
That, if it pleased their Lordships, the Decree might
stand (having wrought the Effect desired in the Report of the Lords); and the Commissioners named in
the Decree be ordered to take into their Consideration
what was reported by the Lords, for the Relief of
Pinckney, and the like Creditors. All which was generally approved, and Ordered by the House. But,
in the Penning of the Order, there is slipt an absolute Contradiction, that Pinckney should be referred
to the said Commissioners (which must needs aim at
the Commissioners in the Report); and that he be relieved by the Decree, which must refer only to the
Commissioners in the Decree; which latter (upon the
Faith of a Poor Churchman) I conceived to be clearly the Sense of the House. But howsoever the
Clerk and I may differ about the Sense of the House
(wherein I must appeal to the Judges and Learned
Counsel then present), take it as he sets it down, the
Decree in Chancery is not struck at, or so much as
mentioned, either in the Lords Report, or in the
Order; the which Order is not warranted by Mr.
Clerk's Notes, nor was it drawn up until after the Session ended, as I am credibly informed.
"First, therefore, the Creditors being left to be relieved by the Decree, I did not conceive any Direction for a new Commission; but did recommend them
to the Judges, Commissioners in the Decree, and
Pinckney more especially, to my Remembrance;
where, for aught I ever heard to the contrary until
this Time, they received all Contentment, according
to the Goodness of their Debts and Demands. If it
be otherwise, your Lordships can easily redress it.
Only I do remember that Pinckney's Wife said plainly
to me, that the Master of the Rolls should not hear
any Part of her Cause, which I thought not worthy
to reply unto; for I am sure that Pinckney or his
Wife attended, amongst others of the Creditors, the
Commissioners in the Decree, Two or Three Times
sithence this Order, and that without any coercive or
compelling Course of the Chancery for them to do
so. The Master of the Rolls and Sir Edward Leech
can say more herein than I can do.
"If the Commissioners in the Report had stood, they
needed no new Commission, being already all Four
Commissioners for Chancery Causes, which was all I
said to Ann Pinckney. And if they had proceeded to
hear the Cause according to the Report (as they
might have done for me), their Decree had walked
with the Decree of the Chancery, tanquam in linea
parallela, not enabled by this Order to touch, and
much less to overthrow, any Part of it.
"When I waited upon His Majesty, by Direction of
that most Honourable House, for an especial Commission to re-hear the Cause between Mathew and
Mathew (for these Commissions are ever granted by
the King Himself), Imoved His Majesty, for avoiding
their Clamours, for a new Commission in the Cause of
Barne-Elmes, which His Majesty absolutely refused
to grant; saying, that many of His Servants, as Sir
George More, Seton, and Drumman, were tired in
that Cause: That He had once already commanded
it to be reviewed by me and the Judges, because a
certain Cabinet was found to be taken for the making
of the Decree: That, if I had taken another Bribe
for this last Decree, that should be reviewed also, or
else the Decree should stand; and the Consideration
of the Lords Order, as touching the Creditors, be
referred to the Commissioners in the Decree, unless
the Lords, at their next Meeting (which should be
within Five Months), might find further Cause, in a
Parliamentary Way, to overthrow and reverse it; but
how or when they, the said Commissioners in the Decree, made their Certificate in the Cause, whether in
my Time or sithence, or peradventure not as yet, I
cannot call to Remembrance.
"If, therefore, I seem to any of your Lordships to
have omitted any Circumstance in the Performance
of this Order, I protest before God, and your
Honourable Lordships, it was not out of any Obstinacy, but mere Distraction and Confusion; which I
beseech your Lordships to pardon and pass over.
"For the Words in the Two Affidavits of Kellwood
and Kennedey, although, being referred to that Order, mis-conceived by the Clerk, and imperfect to
all Sense, it were no Contempt at all (which I submit notwithstanding to that most Honourable House)
to say, I cared not for that Order, which I took not
to be any Order at all; yet the Truth is, I never
spake any Word sounding that Way. But telling Kennedey, that the Four Judges mentioned in the Report
had already sufficient Commission, under Seal, to rehear the Cause, if they pleased; but that I believed
they would not alter the Decree but by Bill of Review; he again replied, That the Order of the Lords
took away the Decree. To which I answered, passing on to my House (as far as I remember), That I
cared not how he construed the Order of the Lords;
but I could not find therein any one Word that struck
at the Decree, or enabled the Judges to reverse the
Decree, otherwise than by a Bill of Review, as Two
or Three of the same Judges had told me themselves.
To this he replied, That he and all the rest were so
far spent, as they were not able to be at the Charges;
which is all that ever past between me and him,
sithence that Time; for Kennedey hath accepted his
Money; Ferrars and Johnson have made their Sale,
and received their Three Thousand Pounds; Kellwood
likewise hath accepted his Money, for the which he
had sold the other Kennedey some under-valued Commodities; Pinckney and his Wife (if I am rightly informed) have been heard, I am sure might have been
heard, before the Master of the Rolls and Judges,
according to the Decree; and never attended me, in
any further Pursuance of the Order of the Lords,
these Eighteen or Twenty Months, to my Remembrance.
"Were I to make a legal and final Answer, I would
humbly recommend unto your Lordships Considerations unanswerable Exceptions against their false Affidavits.
"1. Kellwood (as I am informed) and Kennedey especially (a Man condemned to Death in Scotland for
Forgery), are Persons infamed, and their Credits to
be examined, before they be admitted as Witnesses
against a Peer of the Realm, and a Lord Keeper of
the Great Seal, as I then was.
"2. If they were never so honest, they are Parties
to the Decree, to the Report, to the supposed Order of the Lords, to the prosecuting of the same (as
Kennedey confesseth); and therefore partial Witnesses
"3. If they were no Parties, yet do they omit to
ascertain the Day, Place, and Persons present at
the speaking of the Words; which being ascertained,
I shall be able to produce Half a Score Gentlemen of
Quality, that shall swear they heard not one Word
fall from me derogatory to any Order of the House
"4. If all were certain, yet have they omitted their
Time to complain of a Verbal Contempt. Two Years
very near are now past, nay Two Sittings in Parliament are past, wherein they have been silent. Verbal Injuries (according to the Civil Law) must be
complained of within the Year, aliter remissæ censentur. Contempts must be pressed at the next Term, or
Sitting of the Court, against the which they are committed. Scandalous Words against the King must be
complained of within Three Months. Words of
High Treason are, by the Laws, confined to be complained of within Six Months. All Informations against any Penal Law made, or to be made, must
come within the Compass of One Year, unless it be
ex parte Regis, who hath a Year longer; and it is
impossible for any Man to give an Account of every
Phrase he shall use, Twenty Months after the Words
"5. Lubricum tantum Linguæ non est ad Judicium trahendum, say the Civilians. I am sure, if my Tongue
had slipt (as I hope in God it will not appear it did),
my Heart did never conceive the least Derogation to
any Order of that most Honourable House, or the
bare Intimation of any one Peer that fitteth in the
"If, therefore, your most Honourable Lordships shall
require any further Answer, I will apply myself a
most humble Suitor unto His Majesty, for His Grace
and Favour, that, coming personally unto that most
Honourable House, I may (as in all Duty I am
bound) perform punctually your Lordships Orders
therein; not doubting but His most Excellent Majesty, who gave me this Leave of Absence, upon my
humble Petition, will graciously condescend thereunto. But, if your most Honourable Lordships shall be
so graciously disposed as to accept of this most humble Satisfaction, I shall have much Cause to acknowledge your Lordships Grace and Favour in the same,
and to be very careful of my Carriage and Respects
to your most Honourable Lordships, whom God Almighty ever prosper and preserve.
Referred to the Committee for Petitions.
The which Answer is referred to the Lords Committees for Petitions; and their Lordships are to report
to the House what Course is fit to be taken, as well for
the clearing of the Aspersion which the said Lord Bishop of Lincoln hath laid on the Lords Sub-committees
for Privileges, &c. appointed by the House to peruse
and perfect the Journal Book; as also what is fit to be
done for the Relief of the said Petitioner Tymothy Pinckney; and for the Satisfaction of a Debt owing to Sir
William Paddy by Sir John Kennedey, Knight, deceased,
and to report their Advice to the House.
Raleigh's Restitution in Blood.
Whereas the Bill for the Restitution of Carew Raleigh was reported to the House (14 Martii), by the
Committee, to be fit to pass, with some few Amendments, and One Proviso to be added; it is this Day
Ordered, upon the Petition of the Earl of Bristoll,
That the Judges shall consider of the said Bill so amended, and of the said Proviso so added, and present their
Opinion thereof to the House To-morrow Morning.
Dominus Custos Magni Sigilli declaravit præsens Parliamentum continuandum esse usque in diem crastinum,
videlicet, 17m diem instantis Martii, hora nona, Dominis