House of Lords Journal Volume 3
16 June 1628

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'House of Lords Journal Volume 3: 16 June 1628', Journal of the House of Lords: volume 3: 1620-1628 (1767-1830), pp. 856-859. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=30619 Date accessed: 22 August 2014.


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DIE Lunæ, videlicet, 16 Junii,

Domini tam Spirituales quam Temporales, quorum nomina subscribuntur, præsentes fuerunt:

Archiepus. Cant.
Archiepus. Eborum.
Epus. London.
Epus. Dunelm.
Epus. Winton.
Epus. Petriburgen.
Epus. Hereforden.
Epus. Wigorn.
Epus. Norwicen.
Epus. Roffen.
Epus. Co. et Lich.
Epus. Bangor.
Epus. Cicestren.
Epus. Oxon.
Epus. Cestren.
Epus. Meneven.
Epus. Lincoln.
Epus. Sarum.
Epus. Bath. et W.
Epus. Bristol.
Epus. Asaphen.
Epus. Gloucestren.
Epus. Carliol.
Epus. Exon.
Epus. Landaven.
Ds. Coventrey, Ds. Custos Magni Sigilli.
Comes Marleborough, Magnus Thesaur. Angliæ.
Comes Maunchester, Præs. Concilii Domini Regis.
Dux Buckingham, Magnus Admirallus Angliæ.
Marchio Winton.
Comes Lindsey, Magnus Camerar. Angliæ.
Comes Arundell et Surr. Comes Marescallus Angliæ.
Comes Pembroc, (fn. *) Senes. Hospitii.
Comes Mountgomery, Camerar. Hospitii.
Comes Oxon.
Comes Northumbriæ.
Comes Salop.
Comes Kantii.
Comes Derbiæ.
Comes Wigorn.
Comes Rutland.
Comes Cumbriæ.
Comes Sussex.
Comes Huntingdon.
Comes Bath.
Comes South'ton.
Comes Bedford.
Comes Hertford.
Comes Essex.
Comes Lincoln.
Comes Nottingham.
Comes Suffolciæ.
Comes Dorsett.
Comes Sarum.
Comes Exon.
Comes Bridgewater.
Comes Leicestriæ.
Comes North'ton.
Comes Warwic.
Comes Devon.
Comes Cantabr..
Comes Carlile.
Comes Denbigh.
Comes Bristol.
Comes Angles.
Comes Holland.
Comes Clare.
Comes Bolingbrooke.
Comes Westmerland.
Comes Banbury.
Comes Berk.
Comes Cleveland.
Comes Mulgrave.
Comes Danby.
Comes Tottnes.
Comes Monmouth.
Comes Norwich.
Comes Rivers.
Comes Sunderland.
Comes Newcastle.
Comes Doves.
Comes Petriburgen.
Comes Standford.
Vicecomes Mountague.
Vicecomes Purbeck.
Vicecomes Tunbridge.
Vicecomes Say et Seale.
Vicecomes Wimbleton.
Vicecomes Sevage.
Vicecomes Conway.
Vicecomes Newark.
Vicecomes Bayninge.
Vicecomes Campden.
Ds. Clifford.
Ds. Abergevenny.
Ds. Audley.
Ds. Percy.
Ds. Strange.
Ds. Delawarr.
Ds. Berkley.
Ds. Morley.
Ds. Dacres.
Ds. Dudley.
Ds. Stourton.
Ds. Darcy.
Ds. Vaun.
Ds. Windfore.
Ds. St. John de Bas.
Ds. Cromewell.
Ds. Evre.
Ds. Pagett.
Ds. North.
Ds. Compton.
Ds. Wootton.
Ds. Petre.
Ds. Spencer.
Ds. Stanhope de Harr.
Ds. Arundell.
Ds. Stanhope de Sh.
Ds. Noel.
Ds. Kymbolton.
Ds. Newnham.
Ds. Brooke.
Ds. Mountague.
Ds. Grey.
Ds. Deyncourt.
Ds. Ley.
Ds. Robarts.
Ds. Conway.
Ds. Vere.
Ds. Tregoze.
Ds. Carleton.
Ds. Tufton.
Ds. Craven.
Ds. Mountioy.
Ds. Fawconbridge.
Ds. Lovelace.
Ds. Pawlett.
Ds. Harvy.
Ds. Brudnell.
Ds. Maynard.
Ds. Howard.
Ds. Weston.
Ds. Goringe.
Ds. Mohun.

Sir Robert Ayton's Naturalization.

HODIE 2a vice lecta est Billa, An Act for the Naturalizing of Sir Roberte Ayton, Knight.

Committed unto the

E. of Essex.
E. of Clare.
L. Bp. of Co. et Lich.
L. Bp. of St. Davids.
L. Clifford.
L. Mountague.
L. Noel.

Mr. Justice Crooke to attend the Lords.

Astley's Ditto.

Hodie 2a vice lecta est Billa, An Act for the Naturalizing of the Four Sons of Sir Jacob Astley, Knight.

Committed to the said Committee.

To meet presently.

Who returned the said Bills fit to pass, without any Amendments.

Queen's Jointure Bill.

The Committee on the Bill for the Queen's Jointure met this Morning, notwithstanding the Meeting thereon was appointed to be in the Afternoon. And their Lordships returned the Bill fit to pass, with some small Amendments, which were presently Twice read, allowed, and ordered to be ingrossed.

Conference concerning the Commission to raise Money by Impositions, etc. reported.

This Day the Lord Keeper reported the Conference with the Commons, touching the Commission dated ultimo Februarii last, to advise of raising of Money by Impositions or otherwise. After a short Preamble, his Lordship commanded the Clerk to read the said Commission; which being ended, he shewed the many Inconveniencies which the Commons observed therein, and that they chiefly stood upon it, "That to raise Money by Impositions, without Consent of Parliament, is directly against the Liberty of the Subject, and trencheth upon the Propriety of their Goods, contrary to the Judgement lately given this Parliament; videlicet, contrary to His Majesty's gracious Answer to the Petition of Right; and that the Commons do demand that this Patent may be damned and canceled, and the Inrollment thereof to be vacated; and the Warrant also for the Great Seal to be damned and canceled.

"And also, That the Commons do demand, That the Projectors and Procurers of this Commission might be discovered, and proceeded against."

Committee to draw up a Message to the King, for canceling this Commission.

This Report ended; the Lords long debated the said Complaint and Demands of the Commons. And, in the End, their Lordships appointed a special Committee, to draw up a Message to the King, from this House, for canceling of the said Commission.

The Names of the said Committee: videlicet,

L. President.
L. Admiral.
L. Viscount Say et Seal.
L. Bp. of Lincoln.
L. Weston.

And for burning Dr. Manwaring's Books.

And the said Committee are to draw up a Message also to His Majesty, from the House, for the burning of Dr. Manwaringe's Books, and the Submission which he is to make, according to the Judgement of the 14th of June.

D. of Bucks asks Leave to make a Protestation in the H. C. touching a Speech at his own Table, of which he is falsely accused.

The Duke signified unto the House, That he is informed one of the House of Commons hath affirmed that his Grace did speak these Words at his own Table; videlicet, "Tush! it makes no Matter what the Commons or Parliament doth; for without my Leave and Authority, they shall not be able to touch the Hair of a Dog." And his Grace desired Leave of their Lordships, That he might make his Protestation in the House of Commons concerning that Speech; and to move them, that he which spake it of him (being a Member of that House) might be commanded to justify it, and his Grace heard to clear himself.

To do as he thinks proper.

Their Lordships, considering thereof, Ordered, That the Duke shall be left to himself to do herein what he thinks best, in the House of Commons.

Protests his Innocence.

Whereupon the Duke gave their Lordships Thanks, and protested, upon his Honour, That he never had those Words so much as in his Thoughts. The which Protestation the Lords commanded to be entered, that the Duke may make Use thereof, as Need shall be.

Subsidy of the Temporality.

Hodie allata est a Domo Communi Billa, An Act for the Grant of Five Entire Subsidies, granted by the Temporalty.

This Bill is to be First read in the Afternoon.

Adjourn.

Dominus Custos Magni Sigilli declaravit præsens Parliamentum continuandum esse usque in pomeridianum hujus diei, hora 3a, Dominis sic decernentibus.

Pomeridiano,

Domini tam Spirituales quam Temporales, quorum nomina subscribuntur, præsentes fuerunt:

Archiepus. Cant.
Archiepus. Eborum.
Epus. London.
Epus. Dunelm.
Epus. Winton.
Epus. Petriburgen.
Epus. Hereforden.
Epus. Wigorn.
Epus. Norwicen.
Epus. Roffen.
Epus. Co. et Lich.
Epus. Bangor.
Epus. Cicestren.
Epus. Oxon.
Epus. Cestren.
Epus. Meneven.
Epus. Lincoln.
Epus. Sarum.
Epus. Bath. et Well.
Epus. Bristol.
Epus. Asaphen.
Epus. Gloucestren.
Epus. Carliol.
Epus. Exon.
Epus. Landaven.
Ds. Coventrey, Ds. Custos Magni Sigilli.
Comes Marleborough, Mag. Thesaurarius Angliæ.
Comes Maunchester, Præs. Concilii Domini Regis.
Dux Buckingham, Mag. Admirall. Angliæ.
Marchio Winton.
Comes Lindsey, Mag. Camerarius Angliæ.
Comes Arundell et Surr. Comes Mares. Angliæ.
Comes Pembroc, Senes. Hospitii.
Comes Mountgomery, Camerar. Hospitii.
Comes Oxon.
Comes Northumbriæ.
Comes Salop.
Comes Kantii.
Comes Derbiæ.
Comes Wigorn.
Comes Rutland.
Comes Cumbriæ.
Comes Sussex.
Comes Huntingdon.
Comes Bath.
Comes South'ton.
Comes Bedford.
Comes Hertford.
Comes Essex.
Comes Lincoln.
Comes Nottingham.
Comes Suffolciæ.
Comes Dorsett.
Comes Sarum.
Comes Exon.
Comes Bridgwater.
Comes Leicestriæ.
Comes North'ton.
Comes Warwic.
Comes Devon.
Comes Cantabr.
Comes Carlil.
Comes Denbigh.
Comes Bristol.
Comes Angles.
Comes Holland.
Comes Clare.
Comes Bolingbrooke.
Comes Westmerland.
Comes Banbury.
Comes Berk.
Comes Cleveland.
Comes Mulgrave.
Comes Danby.
Comes Tottnes.
Comes Monmouth.
Comes Norwich.
Comes Rivers.
Comes Sunderland.
Comes Newcastle.
Comes Dover.
Comes Petriburgh.
Comes Standford.
Vicecomes Mountague.
Vicecomes Purbeck.
Vicecomes Tunbridge.
Vicecomes Say et Seale.
Vicecomes Wimbleton.
Vicecomes Savage.
Vicecomes Conway.
Vicecomes Newarke.
Vicecomes Bayninge.
Vicecomes Campden.
Ds. Clifford.
Ds. Abergavenny.
Ds. Audley.
Ds. Percy.
Ds. Strange.
Ds. Delawarr.
Ds. Berkley.
Ds. Morley.
Ds. Dacres.
Ds. Dudley.
Ds. Stourton.
Ds. Darcy.
Ds. Vaux.
Ds. Windsore.
Ds. St. John de Basing.
Ds. Cromewell.
Ds. Evre.
Ds. Pagett.
Ds. North.
Ds. Compton.
Ds. Wootton.
Ds. Petre.
Ds. Spencer.
Ds. Stanhope de H.
Ds. Arundell.
Ds. Stanhope de Sh.
Ds. Noel.
Ds. Kymbolton.
Ds. Newnham.
Ds. Brooke.
Ds. Mountague.
Ds. Grey.
Ds. Deyncourt.
Ds. Ley.
Ds. Robarts.
Ds. Conway.
Ds. Vere.
Ds. Tregoze.
Ds. Carleton.
Ds. Tufton.
Ds. Craven.
Ds. Mountioy.
Ds. Fawconbridge.
Ds. Lovelace.
Ds. Pawlett.
Ds. Harvy.
Ds. Brudnell.
Ds. Maynard.
Ds. Howard.
Ds. Weston.
Ds. Goringe.
Ds. Mohun.

Subsidy Bill of the Temporality.

HODIE 1a vice lecta est Billa, An Act for the Grant of Five Entire Subsidies, granted by the Temporalty.

And Exception was taken to the said Bill, for that, in the Preamble thereof, the Commons are only named, and the Lords omitted. And it was agreed, To have a Conference thereon between both Houses, but the Bill not to be sent back again unto them.

Hodie 2a vice lecta est Billa prædicta.

Ditto.

The Message to the King, penned by the Committee for vacating the Commission, etc. was read, in hæc verba: videlicet,

Message to the King, touching the Commission for levying Money by Impositions, etc.

"May it please Your most Excellent Majesty, Whereas there is transmitted unto us, from the House of Commons, a certain Patent under the Great Seal, bearing Date the last Day of February last, authorizing Thirty and Three of Your Majesty's Counsellors to consult and advise Your Majesty of Ways to raise Monies, by Impositions or otherwise; although we have received Satisfaction from the Lords of Your Majesty's Council that this was no more than a Commission or Warrant for Advice only; yet, to free Your Majesty's Subjects of all Jealousies, and for that this Way of requiring of Advice under the Great Seal doth seem unusual; we do humbly beseech Your Majesty to cancel the said Commission, and, if it be inrolled, to vacate the same also; and, if it be not inrolled, to stay the Inrollment thereof; and that the Warrant for the same may be canceled also; and to give the Lord Keeper of the Great Seal of England Order to effect this with all convenient Speed."

This being read, was allowed of by the House.

The Message, also penned by the said Committee, for the burning of Dr. Manwaring's Books, was read, in hæc verba: videlicet,

Message to the King, concerning the suppressing Dr. Manwaring's Books.

"May it please Your most Excellent Majesty, The Lords having taken into their Consideration a Book set forth by Dr. Manwaringe, called Religion and Allegiance, and withall many dangerous Passages and Inferences, and scandalous Aspersions, contained in the same, for the which they have already given their Judgement and Sentence upon him, do beseech Your most Excellent Majesty to grant Your Royal Proclamation, to call in the said Books, that they may be all burnt, in London and Westm. and both the Universities; and for the inhibiting the Printing thereof, upon a great Penalty; and that Your Majesty will give present Direction to Mr. Attorney General to effect the same."

This was also approved by the House.

Both Messages to be delivered by the Lord Keeper.

Both the said Messages are to be delivered unto His Majesty, by the Lord Keeper, from the whole House.

Adjourn.

Dominus Custos Magni Sigilli declaravit præsens Parliamentum continuandum esse usque in diem crastinum, videlicet, diem Martis 17m diem instantis Junii, hora nona, Dominis sic decernentibus.

Footnotes

* Origin. Camerarius.