House of Lords Journal Volume 10
13 May 1648

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'House of Lords Journal Volume 10: 13 May 1648', Journal of the House of Lords: volume 10: 1648-1649 (1767-1830), pp. 256-257. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=32808 Date accessed: 01 October 2014.


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DIE Sabbati, 13 die Maii.

PRAYERS, by Mr. Sallawey.

Domini præsentes fuerunt:

Comes Manchester, Speaker.

Comes Northumb.
Comes Pembrooke.
Comes Mulgrave.
Comes Stamford.
Comes Warwicke.
L. Viscount Say & Seale.
Comes Kent.
Ds. North.
Ds. Mountagu.
Ds. Howard.
Ds. Wharton.
Ds. Dacres.
Ds. La Warr.
Ds. Grey.

Sudley Castle garrisoned by Sir W. Constable.

The House was informed, "That Sir Wm. Cunstable had granted a Warrant, for putting in a Garrison into Sudley Castle, the House of the Lord Chandois, a Peer of this Realm."

Kendall, Leave to bring Home his Goods from Kinsale.

Upon reading the Petition of Wm. Kendall:

It is Ordered, That he shall have Liberty to send a Ship to Corke, or Kinsall, in Ireland, to bring off his Goods; and to send thither, by his Factor Richard Pendarvis, in the said Ship, or any other which may sooner present, a small Quantity of lawful exportable Merchandize, which the Petitioner, according to his said Factor's Contract, hath already bought.

Wingham's Ordinance, to be Minister of Walgrave.

An Ordinance was brought, for making Dr. Wingham Minister for Walgrave, in the County of Northton; which, being read, was Agreed to, and ordered to be sent to the House of Commons for their Concurrence.

Col. Owen's Petition, to raise a Regiment for Italy.

The Petition of Lieutenant Colonel Walter Owen was read; desiring "Liberty to raise a Regiment of Seven Companies of Foot in England, for the Service in Italy, giving Security for the certain Transportation of the said Companies, that they shall not be employed against this State."

Respited.

Impost due to the Peers.

Sir Edward Leech delivered in a Report concerning the Impost of Wine due to the Peers of this Kingdom; which was read. (Here enter it.)

Ly. Lyttleton versus Smith & al.

The Answer of Wm. Ryley, was read: (Here enter it.) And the forged Parchment Writing concerning the Estate of Dame Awdrey Littleton was brought into this House by him.

Answer to the Scots Desires.

The House taking into Consideration what Answer for present to send to the Kingdom of Scotland, to the Desires brought (fn. *) by the Messenger;

And the Question being put, "Whether to give at present a general Answer by this Messenger to the Parliament of Scotland, by Letter?"

It was Resolved in the Affirmative.

These Lords following were appointed to draw up the Letter, and present the same to the House:

Comes Manchester.
Comes Northumb.
L. Viscount Say & Seale.
Comes Warwicke.
Comes Mulgrave.
Ds. Wharton.

Any Three.

The Lord Viscount Say & Seale reported a Paper from the Committee at Derby House; which was read, as followeth:

Ld. Inchiquin's Son to be exchanged for Sir Wm. Fenton and others:

"Die Veneris, 21 Aprilis, 1648.

"At the Committee of Lords and Commons for the Affairs of Ireland, sitting at Derby House.

"Ordered, &c. That it be reported to the Houses, That the Lord Inchiquine's Son may be put on board One of the Parliament's Ships which is to attend the Munster Coasts; and that he may be offered in Exchange for Sir Wm. Fenton, Colonel Edmund Temple, Lieutenant Colonel Faire, and Major Pourdon, and likewise for the Children of the Lord Broghill which are there."

Ordered, That this House agrees to this Report; and that the Concurrence of the House of Commons be desired herein.

Message to the H. C. about it; and to continue the Marquis of Winton's Liberty.

A Message was sent to the House of Commons, by Dr. Aylett and Dr. Benett:

1. To deliver the Report concerning the Lord Inchiquine's Son to be exchanged for those Persons mentioned in the said Report, and desire their Concurrence therein; and if they agree to it, that then it may be referred to the Committee at Derby House, to see the same put into speedy Execution.

2. To put them in Mind, that the Marquis of Winton may have further Liberty, upon the same Bail as he now stands, as was formerly desired.

Letter to the Parliament of Scotland.

The Lord Wharton reported from the Committee, That they have thought fit to make some Alterations in the Letter to the Parliament of Scotland, sent from the House of Commons;" which is offered to the Consideration of the House.

The Alterations being read;

The Question being put, "Whether to send this Letter as it hath been now offered from the Committee?"

The Votes were even.

Petition from the Common Council.

Ordered, That the City Petition shall be taken into Consideration on Tuesday Morning next.

Ryley's Certificate, concerning another Forgery, by Isab. Smith and others, to injure Lady Lyttleton.

"May it please your Lordships,

"According to an Order of the 10th of this Instant May, I humbly certify unto your Lordships, That, in the Month of January and February last past, one Marriott and Tush, and a Woman called Mrs. Smith, and others, came oftentimes to the Office of Records in The Tower, and brought with them a Writing in Paper, subscribed with the Name of William Colett, pretending the same to be a Copy of a Record extracted out of the said Office, and signed by Mr. Colet, an ancient Clerk of the said Office now deceased, and desired me to make Search for such a Record; and thereupon I looking upon the said Paper, and finding the Date thereof to be in the Time of Queen Elizabeth, I told the said Mariott and Tush and others, "That there could be no such Record there; for that there were not, nor are not, any Records there of so late Time as a Hundred Years since." And yet, notwithstanding, the said Mariott, Tush, and others, continued importunate with me to make Search, and oftentimes came to the said Office; and on Thursday the 17th of February last past, one Jennings, a Writer in the said Office, found the Parchment Scroll (herewith shewed your Lordships) on a little Cupboard or Press in an Outer Room of the Records Office (the said Tush and others being present), and shewed me; and I verily believe the same was brought and laid on the Top of the said Cupboard by the said Tush, Marriott, Mrs. Smith, or some of their Company; and that the said Scroll and Copy are forged and false, and the Hand of Mr. Colet to the said pretended Copy counterfeited; and I am the rather induced to believe it to be so, for that the Character and Manner of Writing is different from the Writing of the Records of The Tower, and the Title of it shews it to be out of the Treasurers Remembrancers Office in the Exchequer (commonly called Osborne's Office); and for that I, having been a Clerk constantly attending in the said Office of The Tower by the Space of Twenty-five Years, and having often Occasion to turn over and remove those few Records and Bundles which lay upon the said Cupboard, never took Notice of it until as aforesaid.

"All which I humbly submit to your Lordships grave Considerations.

"William Ryley."

Report concerning Impost money due to Peers.

"13 Maii, 1648.

"To the Right Honourable the Lords in Parliament assembled.

"According to your Lordships Order of the Eighteenth of January last, we have, at sundry Times, in the Presence of Mr. Lisle (who follows for your Lordships), and of Sir John Poole who married the Widow and Executrix of William Lecheland, of Sir Thomas Dawes (Executor of his Father Sir Abraham Dawes), and of Captain Foster (for his Father in Law Sir Marmaduke Royden deceased), taken Consideration of the Imposts of Wine due to your Lordships: And we find, that the Question resteth only upon the Sum of Nine Hundred and Forty-five Pounds, which is in Arrear since the Year 1634. Yet we find that the like Sum was paid to Sir Marmaduke Royden, the 15th of October the same Year 1634; but it was affirmed on his Part, "That the said Sum was paid for the satisfying of a former Arrear in the Year 1633; and that it was the usual Course, not to receive all the Money for those Imposts till the Year after they were due;" which Course was affirmed by all, and not gainsaid by Mr. Lisle; And we are the more induced to believe it, because we see a Warrant obtained from the late Earl of Manchester, the Viscount Say & Seale, and others the Commissioners for the Treasury, dated 1641, for the Payment of this very Sum of Nine Hundred and Forty-five Pounds to Mr. Lecheland; which Warrant was produced before us by Sir John Poole, in whose Hands it resteth; and we conceive, that such a Warrant would not have been granted, but that their Lordships did know that the said Money was due: But the said Sir John Poole affirmeth, "That no Money hath been paid to Lecheland nor to himself upon that Warrant;" nor do we find upon any Certificate (or Book of the Farmers of the Customs), that the said Money hath been paid: And we find further, that, in the said Year 1641, the said Commissioners for the Treasury did sign Bills of Imposts to be paid to your Lordships, which Bills were delivered to Mr. Lisle (as he acknowledgeth); and we find, that a Warrant was signed by the Green Cloth, for the Striking of Tallies in the Exchequer, for the Payment of those Bills due that Year, and for other ensuing Years, which Warrant doth remain with Sir John Poole; but we do not find that any Tallies were stricken, or Money received, for the Payment of those Bills, or of any other since; so as, besides the said Nine Hundred and Forty-five Pounds, all Imposts are unpaid to your Lordships for the Year 1641, and ever since.

"Which is all we have been able to do herein; and humbly submit the same to your Lordships grave Judgements.

"E. Leche.

"John Page."

Stoneham to be instituted to Brockdish.

Ordered, That Doctor Aylett give Institution and Induction unto Samuell Stoneham Clerk, to the Rectory of Brockedish, in the County of Norffolke, void by Lapse; salvo Jure cujuscunque: Granted by the Great Seal.

Adjourn.

House adjourned till 10a Monday Morning next.

Footnotes

* Deest in Originali.