House of Lords Journal Volume 10
15 May 1648

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'House of Lords Journal Volume 10: 15 May 1648', Journal of the House of Lords: volume 10: 1648-1649 (1767-1830), pp. 258-260. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=32809 Date accessed: 01 August 2014.


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DIE Lunæ, 15 die Maii.

PRAYERS, by Mr. Good.

Domini præsentes fuerunt:

Comes Manchester, Speaker.

Comes Pembrooke.
Comes Stamford.
Comes Mulgrave.
Comes Northumb.
Comes Denbigh.
Ds. North.
Ds. Howard.
Ds. Mountagu.
Ds. Wharton.

Sir P. Pindar and the Earl of Mulgrave.

Ordered, That Sir Paul Pyndar's Counsel shall be heard on Thursday Morning, concerning his Title to the Allum Mines in the Manor of Mulgrave.

Col. Marshall, Messenger from Scotland, arrested.

Upon Information to this House, "That Lieutenant Colonel Marshall, the Messenger that brought the Letter from the Parliament of Scotland to the Parliament of England, is arrested;" and in regard this House looked upon the said Lieutenant Colonel Marshall as a Public Person:

It is Ordered, That the Sheriff of London and Midd. shall forthwith release the said Lieutenant Colonel Marshall from his present Restraint; and that Dickins who arrested him, and one Mr. Burges at whose Suit he was arrested, shall be summoned to appear before this House To-morrow Morning, to answer the same.

Sir F. Willoughby, a Pass.

Ordered, That Sir Francis Willoughby shall have a Pass, to go into Scotland.

E. of Northumb. desires the Money due for the King's Children:

It is desired by the Earl of Northumb. "That the Money due unto him for the King's Children may be forthwith paid; and that the Houses would consider how the said Children shall for the future be provided for; for his Estate being now in a Condition not likely to afford him Means to advance Money for their Expences out of his own Purse as hitherto he hath done, he therefore humbly desires that such present Course as shall be most agreeable unto the Houses may be thought upon for the said Children."

Ordered, That this Desire of the Earl of Northumb. be sent to the House of Commons, with Desire that some speedy Course may be taken for giving Satisfaction herein.

Not to be answerable for them:

This Day the Earl of Northumb. declared, "That though he would use his utmost Endeavour for the preventing of the Departure of any of the King's Children now with him; yet he desired that he might not stand as responsible, nor undergo any Blame, in case any of them should escape, and be conveyed out of this Kingdom."

To which this House agreed.

Message to the H. C. about it:

A Message was sent to the House of Commons, by Doctor Heath and

To deliver the Paper of the Desire of the Earl of Northumb. and desire that they would take some speedy Course for paying the Arrears.

Oates to be proceeded against.

Upon reading the Petition of divers Ministers of the County of Rutland, against Sam. Oates:

(Here enter it.)

It is Ordered, That the Justices of the Peace of the said County shall proceed against the said Oates, according to the Ordinance of Parliament, dated the for punishing of Blasphemy, &c.

E. of Ancram's Protection renewed.

Ordered, That the Protection formerly granted to the Earl of Ancram is hereby renewed for Six Months longer, from the Expiration (fn. *) of the Date of the last Order, which will be the Second Day of June next.

Letter to the Parliament of Scotland.

Next, the Letter, with the Alterations, to be sent to the Parliament of Scotland, was read.

And the Question being put, "Whether to agree to this Letter, without further Alteration?"

It was Resolved in the Negative.

Then the House commanded a new Letter to be prepared; and appointed the Earl of Mulgrave, Earl of Denbigh, and the Lord North, (fn. †) to draw it up, and report it to the House forthwith.

Message from the H. C. with an Ordinance.

A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Mr. Whiteheade, &c.; who brought up an Ordinance for securing to the Treasurers at War Twenty Thousand Pounds, advanced for the Use of the Army, wherein they desire their Lordships Concurrence.

(Here enter it.)

Read, and Agreed to.

The Answer returned was:

Answer.

That this House (fn. †) agrees to this Ordinance now brought up.

Rawleigh and Vivers.

Ordered, That the Cause between George Rawleigh and Vivers and others, shall be put off, and be heard the 20th of June next.

Letter to the Parliament of Scotland:

Next, the Letter which came from the House of Commons, to be sent to the Parliament of Scotland, was read.

And the Question being put, "Whether to agree to this Letter as it came from the House of Commons?"

It was Resolved in the Affirmative.

(Here enter it.)

Instructions for the Commissioners there.

Then the Instructions to the Commissioners of the Parliament of England in Scotland were read:

And the Question (fn. ‡) being put, "Whether to agree to have these Instructions to be now sent to the Commissioners in Scotland?"

It was Resolved in the Negative.

L. Wharton Leave to be absent.

Ordered, That the Lord Wharton hath Leave to be absent sometimes from his Attendance on this House.

Ordered, That the Committee at Derby House do send a Copy of the Letter to the Parliament of Scotland to the Commissioners of the Parliament of England in Scotland.

Sheriff of York to act as Receives.

An Ordinance was brought in, drawn up by the Committee of the Revenue, for appointing the High Sheriff of Yorkeshire to receive the Rents in that County; which, being read, was passed, and sent to the House of Commons for Concurrence, by Dr. Heath, &c.

Ordinance to reimburse the Treasurers at Wars 20,000£. advanced for the Army.

"Whereas Sir John Wollaston Knight, John Warner, Thomas Andrewes, Aldermen of the City of London, George Witham, Francis Allen, and John Dethicke, Esquires, now Treasurers at Wars, did, upon the Se curities mentioned and contained in an Ordinance of Parliament, dated the last of September last, for the Services therein expressed, advance the Sum of Thirty Thousand Pounds, to be reimbursed the same, with Interest after the Rate of Eight Pounds per Centum, in Manner and Form as is therein expressed; and forasmuch as the pressing and public Occasions for Money have so multiplied, as that the Committee of the Army hath been necessitated, and by several Orders have desired the said Treasurers at Wars to forbear to reimburse themselves the said Thirty Thousand Pounds for some Time, with which Order or Orders the said Treasurers at Wars have, for furthering the Public Service, yielded all ready Compliance, by which Means the said Security is very much weakened; and forasmuch as the said Committee of the Army, (fn. *) finding themselves in great Streights of Money, to support the Army, and prevent Free Quarter, have again desired the said Treasurers at Wars to forbear or advance the said Sum of Thirty Thousand Pounds, for the present Service of the Public, during the Space of Three Months from the Date of this Ordinance, the said Sir John Wollaston Knight, John Warner, Thomas Andrews, Aldermen, George Witham, Francis Allen, and John Dethicke, Esquires, Treasurers at Wars, have proportionably undertaken to forbear or advance the Sum of Twenty Thousand Pounds accordingly, for Three Months longer after the Date hereof, upon the Securities already assigned to them in the afore-recited Ordinance of the last of September, 1647, with the Addition of the last Six Months Assessment: Be it therefore Ordained, and it is hereby Ordained, by the Lords and Commons in Parliament assembled, That the said Treasurers shall be, and are hereby, secured the said Sum of Twenty Thousand Pounds, by and upon the Securities formerly given by the said recited Ordinances: And it is further Ordained, That the said Treasurers at Wars shall be, and are hereby, further secured the said Sum of Twenty Thousand Pounds, with the Interest thereof, at Eight Pounds per Centum, out of the Monthly Assessment of Sixty Thousand Pounds per Mensem, to be taxed, levied, and paid, by virtue of Two Ordinances of Parliament, of 15 Martii, 1647, and 24 April. 1648, and shall and may reimburse and satisfy themselves the said Sum of Twenty Thousand Pounds, with the Interest thereof, at One entire Payment, on or before the 14th of August next, together with all and every their Allowances, as fully and amply, by virtue hereof, out of the said former Securities, and out of the said Assessments, as they might or could have reimbursed themselves the said Thirty Thousand Pounds, and their Allowance, by Force and Virtue of the said recited Ordinance of the last of September last past: And the Committee of Lords and Commons for the Army are hereby authorized and appointed to see the same performed accordingly."

Rutland Ministers Petition, for Oates to be proceeded against, for Blasphemy, &c.

"To the Right Honourable the House of Lords assembled in Parliament.

"The humble Petition of Ministers of the County of Rutland, and the Parts adjacent;

"Sheweth,

"That whereas your Lordships Petitioners did formerly exhibit to your Honours a Petition, with Articles annexed, against one Samuell Oates, Weaver, a known and professed Anabaptist, for preaching divers blasphemous and erroneous Doctrines, seducing and re-baptizing very many in our County, and for sundry other foul Misdemeanors; whereupon your Lordships were pleased to cause his Person to be attached by a particular Messenger, and, after an Escape made by him, being again apprehended, was, by your Honours Order, bound over upon Recognizance, to appear before the Judge of the Assizes for the County of Rutland, to answer such Articles as should be exhibited against him; which Order took no Effect, by reason your Petitioners had not timely Knowledge of it, whereby they might have prepared their Articles, and produced their Witnesses against the said Oates; neither did the said Oates put in any Record of your Lordships Order into Court, nor make any legal Appearance, so as the Judge might legally proceed against him, whereby it came to pass that nothing was done in the Cause; whereupon the said Oates, taking himself wholly acquitted and discharged, with much more audacious Boldness proceeds to prosecute his wicked Design than formerly he had done, by more frequent gathering of mutinous Assemblies, venting his blasphemous Errors, seducing and deluding the People, and triumphing of the Ministers, whom he and all his Followers ordinarily call by the Name of Scribes and Pharisies, Antichrist's Preists, Persequutors of the Truth, &c. labouring in all Places to bring them into common Hatred and Contempt; yea, not only contemning Ministry, but also outfacing Magistracy, yea, uttering most seditious and treasonable Speeches against Monarchy itself, to the high Dishonour of God, the great Encouragement of Rebellion and Mutiny, and the woeful Distraction of all the godly and wellaffected People in the Country.

"For Remedy against all which mischievous and destructive Practices, your Petitioners do again address themselves to your Lordships Wisdom and Justice; humbly submitting and adhering to your Honours further Order and Direction, for the suppressing of the said Samuell Oates in his wicked Designs, and the dissolving of the schismatical and mutinous Meetings of his deluded Followers, so as the County may be freed of his Disturbances for the present, and secured from the like for the future.

"And your Petitioners shall pray, &c.

"John Barry,

"Josiah Beacham; in the Name of the rest."

Coates to be instituted to W. Bridgeford.

Ordered, That Dr. Heath give Institution and Induction unto Samuell Coates Clerk, Master of Arts, to the Rectory of West Bridgeford, in Com. Notting. void by Death; Salvo Jure cujuscunque: Granted by the Great Seal.

Letter to the Parliament of Scotland, that an Answer to their Desires shall be sent to the English Commissioners there.

"My Lord,

"We are commanded, by both Houses of the Parliament of England, to acquaint your Lordship, That they received a Letter of the 26th of April last, signed by your Lordship, in the Name of the Parliament of the Kingdom of Scotland, together with a Paper of Desires inclosed, and that such Resolutions as shall be taken thereupon shall be signified unto the Parliament of Scotland by the Commissioners of this Kingdom resident there. Thus much we desire your Lordship to communicate to the Par liament of Scotland; which being all we have in Command, we remain

"Your Lordship's

"Humble Servants,

"E. Manchester, Speaker of the House of Peers pro Tempore.

Westm. 15 Maii, 1648.

"Wm. Lenthall, Speaker of the House of Commons of the Parliament of England.

"To the Right Honourable the Earl of Loudon, Lord Chancellor of Scotland, and President of the Parliament of Scotland; to be communicated to the Parliament of Scotland."

Adjourn.

House adjourned till 10a cras.

Footnotes

* Bis in Originali.
Deest in Originali.
Origin. and being.
* Origin. find.