House of Lords Journal Volume 10
2 September 1648

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'House of Lords Journal Volume 10: 2 September 1648', Journal of the House of Lords: volume 10: 1648-1649 (1767-1830), pp. 482-485. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=32894 Date accessed: 31 August 2014.


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DIE Saturni, 2 die Septembris.

PRAYERS, by Mr. Gower.

Domini præsentes fuerunt:

Ds. Hunsdon, Speaker.

Comes Pembrooke.
Comes Lyncolne.
Comes Mulgrave.
Comes Midd.
L. Viscount Say & Seale.
Comes Rutland.
Comes Suffolke.
Ds. Howard.

Chaplains to attend the Commissioners to the King.

Ordered, That Mr. Marshall and Mr. Carryll are appointed to attend the Commissioners that are to go to treat with the King, in the Isle of Wight.

Sir J. Norris's Accompts.

Upon reading the Petition of Henry Ingram, &c.

It is Ordered, That the Committee for Accompts do give an Account to this House, why they do not expedite the taking of Sir John Norris's Accompts.

Message to the H. C. for a Conference about Tattershall Castle, and Obstruction in Messages between the Houses.

A Message was sent to the House of Commons, by Doctor Aylett and Mr. Page:

1. To desire a Conference, on Monday Morning next, concerning an Order touching Tattershall Castle, and concerning some Obstructions in Messages between the Two Houses.

Vanenden versus Sir W. Cobb.

Upon reading the Petition of Ann Vanenden Widow, and the Affidavit of the said Ann Vanenden and Edward Evans:

It is Ordered, That Sir Wm. Cobb shall be attached, by the Gentleman Usher attending this House, and brought before the Lords in Parliament, to answer the Matters charged against him.

Message from the H. C. with Ordinances and Orders;-with Instructions for the Commissioners going to the King, and Votes in Answer to His Desires.

A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Sir John Potts; who brought up divers Particulars, wherein they desire their Lordships Concurrence:

1. Votes in Answer to the King's Desire of having Persons and Servants to attend Him. (Here enter them.)

Agreed to.

2. An Order for Five Hundred Pounds apiece to Sir Gherrard Lowther, Sir Francis Willoughby, and Sir Paul Davies. (Here enter it.)

Agreed to.

3. Order for Monies for the Staffordshire Horse. (Here enter it.)

Agreed to.

4. Order for Twenty Pounds apiece to Wm. Hitchcock and Wm. Carpenter, out of the Receipts at Goldsmithes Hall, in Course. (Here enter it.)

Agreed to.

5. Order for Ten Pounds for Mr. Hawksworth, the Messenger. (Here enter it.)

Agreed to.

6. Ordinance for a Brief, or Collection, for Great Farrington, in Com. Berks, burnt by the Enemy.

(Here enter it.)

Agreed to.

7. Order for Mr. Rushworth to buy a Brace of Geldings. (Here enter it.)

Agreed to.

8. Instructions for the Committees to go to the King. Agreed to, with an Alteration.

9. Order for Mr. Marshall, Mr. Vynes, Mr. Seaman, and Mr. Herle, to go along with the Commissioners to the King.

Agreed to, with an Addition of Mr. Carryll.

10. An Order for Public Humiliation, on the 12th of this Instant. (Here enter it.)

Agreed to.

The Answer returned was:

Answer.

That concerning the Instructions to be given to the Commissioners that are to go to the King, and concerning the Order for the Ministers that are to go with the Commissioners, they will send them an Answer by Messengers of their own: To all the rest of this Message, they do agree.

Message to the H. C. with the Instructions for the Commissioners, to treat with the King; about the Divines to attend them; and for Sir P. Killegrew to go to the King immediately.

A Message was sent to the House of Commons, by Doctor Aylett and Mr. Page;

1. To deliver to them the Instructions that are to be given to the Commissioners that are to go to the King, with the Alteration, and the Names of the Lords that are to be Commissioners; and desire their Concurrence therein.

2. To desire their Concurrence, that Mr. Carryll may be added to the Divines that are to go with the Commissioners.

3. To desire that Sir Peter Killegrew may be speedily sent to the King, to acquaint Him with the Votes of both Houses, concerning the Persons and Servants that are to go to the King; and that Sir Peter Killegrewe may acquaint Him with what Commissioners are appointed to attend Him, for the Treaty; and a Letter to be written, to signify, that, in regard they cannot come within the Time before appointed, they shall give their Attendance as soon as conveniently may be.

Papers from the L. Admiral.

A Report from the Committee at Derby House, with a Letter and Papers from the Lord Admiral, were read.

(Here enter them.)

Message from the H. C. with an Ordinance.

A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Mr. Greene; who brought up an Ordinance for paying Money for the Use of the Navy. (Here enter it.)

Read, and Agreed to.

The Answer returned was:

Answer.

This House agrees to the Ordinance now brought up.

Ministers to go with the Commissioners.

"Ordered, by the Lords and Commons assembled in Parliament, That Mr. Seaman be desired to go along with the Commissioners nominated and appointed to treat with the King."

Papers from the L. Admiral:

"Die Veneris, 1 Septembris, 1648.

"At the Committee of Lords and Commons, at Derby House.

Ordered,

"That the Lord Admiral's Letter, and Papers inclosed, and the Information from Mr. Pett, be reported to both Houses.

"Ex'r. Gualter Frost, Secreatary."

Letter from him, that he is going in Pursuit of the revolted Ships.

"My Lords and Gentlemen,

"We have for divers Hours been near upon an Engagement with the Enemy's Fleet. Yesterday we did decline it on our Part, in Expectation of the Portsmouth Ships; knowing how much the Public Service depends upon the Issue of this Expedition. At this Instant, the Revolters stand away; and we are weighing to pursue them, if they keep on their Course. We have not our Numbers of Men (in this and several other of the Ships) compleat; yet found such a Spirit of Courage and Unanimity and Resolution upon the several Ships Companies, that we must acknowledge (to the Praise of our God) it was given immediately from Heaven. On Tuesday Night I received a Summons from the Prince, by Mr. Seymour; whereof, and of my Answer, I do herewith send a Copy, which was the same Night delivered, and sent away by the same Hand. Our Proceedings since, and the Grounds thereof, I shall present by the next, being now streightened in Time. I have writ to Colonel Temple, to stay all Vessels whatsoever from passing by Tilbury Fort, without special Order from the Parliament or myself: Which is all I have now to present unto your Lordships; being

Aboard The St. George, off Shoberry Ness, 31 Aug. 1648.

"Your Lordships, &c.

Affectionate and humble Servant,

Warwicke.

"To the Right Honourable the Committee of Lords and Commons, at Derby House."

Summons from the P. of Wales to the L. Admiral, to strike his Flag, and submit to him.

His Highness the Prince of Wales, having observed a Standard borne by that Fleet which hath been for some Hours in View, doth require the Admiral or Chief Commander thereof to take Notice, that his Highness is present here; and doth command him to take down the Standard, and to come under his Highness' Obedience, for the settling of the Peace of His Majesty's Dominions; wherein if His Highness shall find a ready Compliance, he doth engage himself, not only to obtain the Pardon of all such as shall now return to His Majesty's Obedience, but also to receive them into his Favour and Trust, and to continue them in Employment, as Persons (fn. *) who, by obeying his Highness' Summons, declare their good Affections to His Majesty's and to the Peace of the Kingdom.

Aug. 29th 1648.

"Charles P."

L. Admiral's Answer.

"May it please your Highness,

"I am appointed, by both Houses of the Parliament of England, to be Lord High Admiral of England; by which Right I bear the Standard, and shall, God willing, continue to bear it, during the Pleasure of the said Houses, notwithstanding the Opposition of any Person whatsoever. And as for the settling the Peace of the Kingdom, I must refer that to the Wisdom of the Two Houses, who, I conceive, are now in a fair Way to effect it, if they be not therein disturbed. And this is what I can return to your Highness by Way of Answer to your Paper; being,

From aboard The St. George, 29th Aug. 1648.

"Your Highness' humble Servant,

"Warwicke."

Kirby's Examination, about his seeing both Fleets.

31 Aug. 1648.

"The Examination of William Kerby, of Rochester, taken by Peter Pett Esquire.

Upon Tuesday Night, the Examinant saith, as he was riding in The Wallett, he saw much Drift of Cask, and Pieces of Cabbins, Tables, Chests, Baskets, Pieces of Wainscots, &c. which almost filled the Channels, which must of Necessity come from the Fleet.

"Further he saith, Yesterday about One of the Clock in the Afternoon, coming from Newcastle, he spied a Fleet of Ships riding at The Shoe, the Ebb being spent. The Admiral shooting a Warning-piece, they all weighed Anchor turning up with the Wind at S. S. W. By that Time they got up to The Bluchtayle, my Lord, being about Three or Four Miles farther up, turned up before them. Presently after, the Wind in a Die came up to N. N. W. by which Means the Lord of Warwicke was bedalmed. The violent Wind was at N. N. W. thrust the Prince upon my Lord. The Storm being so violent, they were all constrained to come to an Anchor; my Lord with his Fleet uppermost; the Prince within less than a Mile of him to Seaward; the Prince and my Lord both with their Standards up. They were in Number all, near Fifty Sails.

Wm. Kerby.

"Vera Copia, P. P."

Votes in Answer to the King's Desires for Persons to attend Him.

Resolved, by the Lords and Commons in Parliament assembled,

That, according to the King's Desire in His Letter, Parsons shall have a Pass, to go to the King, and into Scotland.

Resolved, &c.

That the Duke of Richmond, Marquis Hertford, Earl of Lindsay, and Earl of South'ton, have Liberty to go to the King, to attend Him during the Time of the Treaty.

Resolved, &c.

That George Kirke, James Levingston, Henry Murray, have Liberty to go to the King, to attend Him during the Time of the Treaty.

Resolved, &c.

That Thomas Davis, Hew Henn, Humphry Rogers, Wm. Levitt, John Rives, Sir Edward Sydenham, Robert Tirwhitt, John Howsdon, Mrs. Wheeler with such Maids as she will choose, Sir Fulke Grevill, Captain Titus, Captain Burroughes, Mr. Cressett, Mr. Anstie, Mr. Firebrasse, have Liberty to go to the King, to attend Him during the Time of the Treaty.

Resolved, &c.

That Abraham Dowcett be not permitted to go to the King, being under Restraint.

Resolved, &c.

That Doctor Juxon, Doctor Duppa, shall have Liberty to go to the King, to attend Him during the Time of the Treaty.

Resolved, &c.

That Doctor Sheldon, Doctor Hamond, Doctor Oldsworth, be not permitted to go to the King, they being under Restraint.

Resolved, &c.

That Doctor Sanderson, Doctor Turner, and Doctor Heywood, have Leave to go to the King, to attend Him during the Time of the Treaty.

Resolved, &c.

That Sir Thomas Gardner, Orlando Bridgman Esquire, now called by the Name of Sir Orlando Bridgman, Mr. Jeffery Palmer, Mr. Thomas Coke, Mr. John Vaughan, have Liberty to go to the King, to attend Him during the Time of the Treaty.

Resolved, &c.

That Sir Edward Sydenham, Mr. Robert Tirwhitt, Mr. John Howsdon, shall have Liberty to appoint Four or Six of the King's Footmen, to attend the King during the Time of the Treaty, as they find sittest to wait.

Resolved, &c.

That Edward Walker Esquire, now called by the Name of Sir Edward Walker, Mr. Phillip Warwicke, Mr. Nich. Oudart, Mr. Charles Whitakers, shall have Liberty to go to the King, to attend Him during the Time of the Treaty.

Resolved, &c.

That Mr. Peter Newton and Mr. Clem. Kinnersley have Liberty to go to the King, to attend Him during the Time of the Treaty.

Resolved, &c.

"That Mr. John Ashburnham and Mr. Wm. Legg be not admitted to go to the King, to attend Him during the Time of this Treaty; Mr. John Ashburnham standing in the First Exception from Pardon, and Mr. William Legge being under Restraint."

Order for 500 l. each to Sir Ger. Lowther, Sir Fr. Willoughby, and Sir Paul Davis.

"Ordered, by the Lords and Commons assembled in Parliament, That the Sum of Five Hundred Pounds a piece be bestowed upon, and paid unto, Sir Gerard Lowther, Sir Francis Willoughby, and Sir Paule Davis, Knights; and that one Moiety of the said respective Five Hundred Pounds be paid unto the said Gentlemen respectively, their respective Executors, or Assigns, of the Rents (fn. *) and the other Moiety of the said respective Five Hundred Pounds, out of the Arrears of the Ordinance for the Weekly Assessments for Ireland, after former Engagements upon those Ordinances first satisfied: And the Committees for the Affairs of Ireland, and all other Persons who are intrusted with the Managing and Ordering of the Monies upon those Ordinances, are hereby authorized and required to take Care and give Order for the Payment of the said respective Five Hundred Pounds to each of the aforesaid Gentlemen, their respective Executors or Assigns, as aforesaid; and the respective Acquittances of the said Gentlemen, their respective Executors or Assigns, shall be a sufficient Discharge to the respective Treasurers of the said Monies, for the Payment thereof accordingly."

Order for 400 l. for Staff. Horse.

"Ordered, by the Lords and Commons in Parliament assembled, That Four Hundred Pounds be paid, out of the Sequestration of the Earl of Newcastle's Estate, in the County of Staff. to the Two Troops of Horse, as followeth; (videlicet), One Hundred Pounds to Captain Blackhouse, One Hundred Pounds to Lieutenant Hill, and the other Two Hundred Pounds to be paid to the rest of the Officers and Troopers of the Two Troops, to be disbursed at the Discretion of Captain Stone and Captain Blackhouse: And the Committee of Sequestrations for the County of Stafford are to pay the said Sum of Four Hundred Pounds accordingly; and an Acquittance for the Receipt of the said Sum of Four Hundred Pounds, and every Part thereof, under the Hands of the said Captain, Lieutenant, Officers, and Troopers, shall be a sufficient Discharge to the Committee of Sequestrations, and their Treasurer."

Order for 40 l. to Hitchcock and Carpenter.

Ordered, by the Lords and Commons in Parliament assembled, That the Sum of Forty Pounds be charged upon the Receipts at Gouldsmiths Hall, in Course, and paid unto Wm. Hitchcocke Quarter-master of Horse, and Wm. Carpenter a Trooper, or their Assignee or Assignees, upon Accompt; whose several and respective Acquittances shall be a sufficient Warrant and Discharge to the Treasurers at Gouldsmiths Hall, for Payment of the said Forty Pounds accordingly."

Order for 10 l. for Hawksworth.

"Ordered, by the Lords and Commons assembled in Parliament, That the Sum of Ten Pounds be bestowed upon Thomas Hawksworth, the Messenger that brought the Information and Intelligence from the revolted Ships; and that the said sum of Ten Pounds be paid unto the said Thomas Hawksworth, by Order of the Committee of Lords and Commons for Advance of Monies usually fitting at Habberdash'rs Hall.

Order for a Collection for Great Farringdon.

"Whereas the Town of Greate Farringdon and Westbrooke, in the County of Berks, and the Parish Church there, were demolished and burnt by Fire, by the Enemy's Garrisons, to the Ruin and Damage of the Inhabitants, in their Habitations, Goods, and Church, to the Value of Fifty-six Thousand Nine Hundred Seventy-six Pounds, Four Shillings, as by Certificate of Fifteen able and substantial Workmen appeared to be true, before the Judges of Assize, Ten Justices of the Peace, and the Grand Inquest, at the Assizes and Gaol Delivery holden at Reading, for the said County of Berks, 12 Martii, 1646; and the Desires of the Petitioners thought fit, by the said Judges of Assize, Justice of Peace, and Grand Inquest, to be recommended to the Parliament: The Lords and Commons in Parliament assembled, taking the great Sufferings and sad Condition of the said poor distressed Inhabitants into a pious and serious Consideration, do order and ordain, and be it hereby Ordered and Ordained, The Commissioners of the Great Seal do pass, under the said Great Seal, a Brief, or Letters Patents, in usual Form prepared, for a Collection of the free and charitable Benevolence of all well-disposed People, in all the Counties, Cities, Towns Corporate, and Places, within the Kingdom of England and Dominion of Wales, for Relief of the said Inhabitants, Repair to their Habitations and Parish Church; the said Brief, or Letters Patents, to continue in Force for the Space of Two Years from the Date thereof, and no longer."

Order for 50 l. for Mr. Rushworth.

"The Lords and Commons assembled in Parliament, taking Notice of the good Service of Mr. John Rushworth, in giving timely and constant Notice of the Proceedings of the Parliament's Forces, do order, That the Sum of Fifty Pounds be bestowed upon the said Mr. John Rushworth, to buy him a Brace of Geldings; and that the said Fifty Pounds be paid unto the said Mr. John Rushworth, or his Assigns, by the Treasurers at Gouldsmiths Hall, out of Sir Charles Keymish's Fine; and that the Acquittance of the said Mr. John Rushworth, or his Assignee, shall be a sufficient Discharge to the Treasurers, for the Payment of the said Fifty Pounds accordingly."

Order for a Public Humiliation, for the Success of the Treaty.

"Ordered, by the Lords and Commons assembled in Parliament, That Tuesday come Sevennight, the Twelfth of this Instant September, be appointed and observed as a Day of Public Humiliation, by the Members of both Houses, and in all the Churches and Chapels within the late Lines of Communication and Weekly Bills of Mortality, to seek God earnestly, for a Blessing upon the Treaty."

Order for 50,000 l. for the Use of the Navy.

"Whereas, by an Ordinance of both Houses of Parliament, bearing Date the 31th Day of August, 1648, the Sum of Fifty Thousand Pounds, Part of the Third Hundred Thousand Pounds formerly appointed to be paid unto the Kingdom of Scotland, towards the Satisfaction of the Four Hundred Thousand Pounds agreed by Articles Anno 1646, is thought fit to be employed for supplying the pressing Necessities of the Navy, and for other Uses expressed in the said Ordinance: And whereas the other Fifty Thousand Pounds, Part of the Third Hundred Thousand Pounds assigned to be paid to the Marquis of Argile and others, by Ordinance of the 13th of January, 1646, out of the Receipts at Gouldsmiths Hall, with Interest for Forbearance until the same be paid, is, by an Order of the Committee at Gouldsmiths Hall, dated the 6th Day of March, 1647, secured and appointed to be paid, as well out of the Monies arising by the said Receipts of Fines and Compositions of Papists and Delinquents, as also out of the Monies to be returned out of any the Counties which are in Arrear upon the First Scottish Loans, or the Two Four Months Assessment:

"Be it Ordained, by the Lords and Commons in Parliament assembled, That the said Fifty Thousand Pounds, appointed to be paid by the said Ordinance of 31th of August, for the Uses therein mentioned, shall be paid, by the Treasurers at Gouldsmiths Hall, for which the Committee at Gouldsmiths Hall are hereby required to give Order accordingly, out of the said Receipts of Fines and Compositions, in Course, next after the Ten Thousand Pounds assigned by the Ordinance of the 13th of January, 1646, to the Marquis of Argill, be fully paid and satisfied; any Order or Ordinance of both Houses of Parliament, or the Committee at Gouldsmiths Hall, to the contrary notwithstanding."

Adjourn.

House adjourned till Monday Morning next, at 10a Aurora.

Footnotes

* Deest in Originali.
* Sic.