DIE Jovis, 26 die Octobris.
PRAYERS, by Mr. Langley.
Domini præsentes fuerunt:
Comes Manchester, Speaker.
L. Viscount Hereford.
Ds. La Warr.
Ds. Grey de Werk.
Letter from the Committee of Estates, desiring a Pass for Sir D Carmichael to the King.
The Speaker acquainted the House, "That Sir John
Cheisley this Morning brought a Letter from the
Committee of Estates in Scotland; and desires that
Sir Daniell Carmichell may have a Pass, to go into
the Isle of Wight, to deliver a Letter to the King,
from the Estates of Scotland."
The said Letter, with a Paper inclosed of Letter of
Credence, were read; and the Consideration respited
for a little Time. (Here enter them.)
King's Papers concerning the Treaty.
Next, the House was adjourned into a Committee
during Pleasure, to take into Consideration the King's
last Papers concerning the Treaty.
The House being resumed;
His Majesty's Paper of His final Answer to the Propositions concerning the Church, dated the 21th October,
1648, was again read.
And, after a long Debate, it was Resolved, That an
Expedient be made, and sent to the Commissioners, to
this Effect; (videlicet,)
"That, after the Expiration of the Three Years,
the Presbyterial Government, as it is now settled, shall
continue and remain in full Force, Exercise, and
Power, until [ (fn. *) a further] Settlement shall be agreed on
by the King and both Houses of Parliament, after
Consultation had with the Assembly of Divines."
Ordered, That this Expedient be offered to the
House of Commons.
The Particular concerning the King's Offer touching
Bishops Lands, is respited.
Ordered, This House shall sit this Afternoon, at
Four of the Clock.
Message to the H. C. that the Lords will sit P. M.
A Message was sent to the House of Commons, by
Sir Edward Leech and Mr. Page:
To let them know, that this House intends to sit this
Afternoon, at Four of the Clock.
2. To desire a Conference this Afternoon, at Four
of the Clock, concerning the King's last Answer to the
Proposition concerning the Church.
Committee to prepare Heads for a Conference on the Propositions about the Church.
Ordered, That these Lords following shall meet
this Afternoon, at Three of the Clock, and prepare the
Matter of the Conference with the House of Commons,
and put the Expedient into Form, as it shall be sent to
Russel, a Pass.
Ordered, That Wm. Russell and shall
have a Pass, to go into France, with Two Horses.
Letter of Credence from the Committee of Estates of Scotland for Sit J. Cheslie.
"For the Right Honnorable the Speaker of the
House of Peeres pro Tempore; to be communicated to both Houses of Parliament.
"Many have bin the Troubles wherewith the Lord
hath bin pleased to exercise these Kingdomes, since
their joyning together in the solemne League and
Covenant. But wee may truly say, many and greate
have bin the Mercyes of the Lord, and His Gracious Deliverances out of these Troubles: Wee neede
not to mention the Tossings, Shakeings, and stronge
Tempests, which the Honorable Houses have endured; and how the Lord has preserved them in the
Middest of them all. These Things are best knowne
to yourselves. But for us, besides smaller Troubles,
this Kingdome hath bin Twice borne downe and
overrunn by the Prevalency of the malignant Party:
First, by the Power of the Forces under the Conduct
of James Graham late Earle of Montrosse, and lately
by the Power and Force of those who joyned under
the Commaund of James Duke of Hamilton; from
both which the Lord hath mercifully delivered us:
And now, by His good Providence, the Power of
mannaginge the Affaires of this Kingdome is againe
invested in the Hands of those Persons which were
most forward and active in sendinge an Army into
England in the Yeare of God 1643, for the Assistance of their Brethren, and which protested in Parliament against the late unlawfull Engagement against
your Nation. For a long Tyme, there hath bin a
Mixture of Malignants joyned with us in our Councells, which hath bin the Roote of all our Evills and
Troubles, and a cheise Meane to begett a Misunderstanding betwixt the Kingdomes; but wee trust in
God, it shall bee soe noe more. Wee doe retourne
unto you the hearty Thanks of this Kingdome, for
the willing and ready Offer of Assistance you were
pleased to make unto us, by your Votes of the 28th
of September last, comunicated unto us by Lieutenant Generall Cromwell; and wee doe earnestly desire
the Right Honnorable Houses of Parliament to rest
assured, that, next under God, wee place our greatest
Strength for carrying on the Worke of Reformation,
and setlinge the Peace of this Kingdome, in a firme
Conjunction and hearty Correspondence with our Brethren of England.
"Wee are informed, that the Honorable Houses are
treating with the King, upon the Propositions formerly presented unto His Majesty by Commissioners
of both Kingdomes at Hampton Court; wherein wee
trust they will not proceed to a finall Agreement,
without haveing Regard to the Interest of this Kingdome: But, above all, wee hould it our Duty seriously to recommend unto both Houses of Parliament, that, as they desire a Blessing from Heaven
upon their Proceedings, they be specially carefull
that the Propositions concerning the Covenant and
Reformation of Religion be setled and agreed on in
the First Place, before all Interests whatsoever. And
soe soone as wee shall understand that Matters are in
a hopefull Way of Agreement betwixt His Majesty
and His Kingdomes, wee shal be ready to contribute
our uttmost Endeavors for that End. But the late
Engagement of the Forces of the Duke of Hamilton against you haveing stopped all Intercourse betwixt us for a long Tyme, wee knowe little of the
true State of your Affaires. Wherefore wee have sent
this Gentleman, Sir John Cheisly, of Kerswell, who
hath bin a Pertaker with us in our Sufferings, and
an active Opposer of the late Ingagement, to attend
the Honorable Houses of Parliament, and to give
unto them an Accompt of our late Proceedings and
present Condition; and to represent our reall Indeavors and sincere Resolutions, to preserve inviolably
the Union betwixt the Kingdomes, according to the
Covenant and Treatyes; for which End, wee doe desire the Honorable Houses to give full Creditt and
Trust to him, in all Things which he shall say, in the
"Your most assured Friends and
"Signed in the Name, and by the
Warrant, of the Committee of
"Edin'r, 17 Octobr. 1648."
Paper from them, authorizing him to reside here.
"Whereas the Committee of Estates of this Kingdome, consisting of such Members of Parliament as
dissented from, and protested in Parliament against,
the late unlawfull Ingagement against our Neighbour
Nation of England, with whom wee are joyned in
Covenant, have found it necessary that some be
speedily imployed from this Kingdome to the Right
Honorable Houses of the Parliament of England, to
informe them concerning our late Proceedings and the
present State of our Affaires, and further for preserving and continueing a good Understanding betwixt
the Kingdomes: They doe therefore give full Power,
Commission, and Charge, to Sir John Cheisly of Kerswell, forthwith to repaire to the Kingdome of England, with Power to him to indeavor the effecting of
the Ends aforesaid; and further to doe all such other
Affaires as are, or shal be, from Tyme to Tyme,
committed unto him by the said Committee of Estates,
according to the Instructions now given, or which
shal be hereafter given unto him; firme and stable
houlding whatsoever he shall doe conforme to the
"Dated at Edinburgh, 17 Octobr. 1648.
"Signed in the Name, and by the
Warrant, of the Committee
Author of a threatening Letter to Brown, Cler. Parl. to be apprehended.
Whereas there is a dangerous Letter written, by
some ill-affected Person, without Name, whereby it
appears that John Browne Esquire, Clerk of the Parliaments, is in Danger of his Life: It is Ordered,
by the Lords in Parliament assembled, That it is hereby especially recommended and referred to the Judges
of the King's Bench, or One of them, to use their uttermost Care and Endeavour, to find out the Author
and Writer of the said Letter, and the Abettors thereof; and, for the better Discovery thereof, to examine
such Persons as they shall think fit, for their fuller Information thereof, and to take special Care for the Safety
and Preservation of the Person of the said John Browne,
as much as in them lies, being a Servant of this House,
and so much intrusted in the Affairs of the Kingdom;
and that the said Judges, or One of them, are hereby
authorized and required to bind such Person or Persons
to the good Behaviour as they shall see Cause for, upon
Downes to be instituted to Thurnby.
Ordered, That Doctor Heath give Institution and
Induction unto Lewis Downes Clerk, to the Rectory of
Thurneby, in the County of North'ton, void by the Death
of Edward Langham, the last Incumbent; Salvo Jure
cujuscunque: William Sanders and Richard Rainsford Esquires, Patrons.
Comes Manchester, Speaker.
Adjourned till 10a cras.