House of Lords Journal Volume 10
16 November 1648

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'House of Lords Journal Volume 10: 16 November 1648', Journal of the House of Lords: volume 10: 1648-1649 (1767-1830), pp. 592-593. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=32948 Date accessed: 23 September 2014.


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DIE Jovis, 16 die Novembris.

PRAYERS, by Mr. Hickes.

Domini præsentes fuerunt:

Comes Manchester, Speaker.

Comes Suffolke.
Comes Lyncolne.
Comes Rutland.
Comes Nottingham.
Comes Salisbury.
Ds. Hunsdon.
Ds. Mountagu.
Ds. Dacres.
Ds. Grey.
Ds. Howard of Esc.

Chibnal and St. Johns.

Upon reading the Petition of Thomas Chybnall:

It is Ordered, That Mr. St. Johns shall see the Petition, and return his Answer to the same on Saturday next; and the leaving of this Order at the House of the said Mr. St. Johns in the Country, or at his Lodging at Graies Inn, shall be taken to be a sufficient Notice.

Dr. Appleton to be released, on giving Security to go beyond Sea.

Upon reading the Petition of Dr. Appleton, Doctor of Physic, "being committed to The Newe Prison, at Clarkenwell, by the Justices of the Peace for the County of Midd. for his Recusancy; therefore desires to have Liberty to go beyond the Seas:"

It is Ordered, That it (fn. *) be recommended to the said Justices of the Peace, that if the said Dr. Appleton shall give good Security to go out of the Kingdom within a convenient Time, that (fn. †) then they do release him.

Burton, a Pass.

Ordered, That Mr. Henry Burton shall have a Pass, to go into Holland.

L. Hunsdon Leave to see L. Capel.

Ordered, That the Lord Hunsdon hath Leave to go see the Lord Capell, at The Tower.

Message from the H. C. with Letters from and to Col. Hammond, about the King's Parole and with an Order.

A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Mr. Lyle, &c.; who brought up the these Particulars following, wherein their Lordships Concurrence is desired:

1. A Letter from Colonel Hamond, concerning the King's Parole. (Here enter it.) Read.

2. A Vote in Pursuance thereupon. (Here enter it.) Read, and Agreed to.

3. A Letter to Colonel Hamond. (Here enter it.) Agreed to, and ordered speedily to (fn. *) be sent away.

4. An Order for swearing Sir Thomas Bedding field next after Mr. Sam. Browne. (Here enter it.) Agreed to.

The Answer returned was:

Answer.

That this House agrees to all the Votes and Letter now brought up, and have ordered to send them away with all Speed. (fn. ‡)

Message to the H. C. for a Conference about Delinquents.

A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Sir James Harrington Knight, &c.

To desire a present Conference, if it may stand with their Lordships Conveniency, touching the Proposition concerning Delinquents.

The Answer returned was:

Answer.

That their Lordships do appoint a present Conference, in the Painted Chamber, as is desired.

Mrs. Garret and Sir G. Garrett.

Upon hearing the Counsel of Mrs. Theodosia Garrett, and Sir George Garrett;

It is Ordered, That this House will take up the further Consideration of this Business on Monday Morning next.

Message to the H. C. to remind them of the Forces in Northumberland.

A Message was sent to the House of Commons, by Sir Edw. Leech and Mr. Page:

To put them in Mind of the late Conference concerning the supernumerary Forces in the County of Northumb.

L. Dunsmore to deliver Writings concerning L. Boteler's Estate.

Upon the Motion and Request of the Lord Howard of Esc.

It is Ordered, That the Lord Dunsemore do bring, or cause to be brought, into this House, by this Day Sevennight, all the Writings and Evidences which are in (fn. *) his Custody, or within his Power, touching or concerning the Estate of the Lord Boteler deceased, and the Lord Botcler his Son now living; and that the said Lord Dunsemore do deliver them in upon his Honour, that they are all that are in his Custody, or in the Custody of any other Person to his Use or Knowledge.

Letter from Colonel Hammond, concerning the King's Parole.

"For the Right Honourable the Committee of Derby House. These.

"My Lords and Gentlemen,

"Give me Leave to acquaint your Lordships, that, the Day before the Time formerly limited for Treaty ended, and before it was known here to be renewed, I thought it my Duty, in regard to the great Trust the Parliament had placed upon me, in receiving (on their Behalf) the King's Parole, and because there was not any could positively witness to the Circumstances of the Engagement, except Sir Peter Killigrew, to move the King to confirm His said Parole, in acquainting the Commissioners of Parliament that He had so passed His Word, as desired, and ordered by both Houses; which accordingly He did, as the said Honourable Commissioners will better inform your Lordships, the next Day; and at the Commissioners taking their Leaves of the King, I having had Intimation of a Question, or Doubt, whether, Guards (as was pretended, arguing a Distrust) being kept upon the King, His said Parole were not thereby made void, I pressed the King before them to declare whether He made any such Question; if so, that He would please to clear it. He, seeming somewhat surprized, desired Time to consider it; professing, not to have thought on it before. But I, perceiving the Danger of such a Reserve, pressed Him with greater Earnestness to a clear Declaration of Himself in the Point; telling Him, "That otherwise His Parole signified nothing;" and desired His positive Answer, as the Case now stood with Him. His Majesty avoided it long. I then told Him, "That if the Centinels at His Door (I having kept no other since the Engagement of His Word) were offensive to Him, and would absolutely clear Him in that Question He seemed to make Scruple, they should be taken off, they being only set to keep off People from pressing into His Lodgings; and placed at a further Distance, with the Guard which is kept to preserve His Majesty's Person from Violence; assuring Him, I only depended upon His Word, which the Parliament had pleased to accept, for His not removing out of the Island." He told me, "It would be then more clear," and that Four or Five several Times. At length, upon my Importunity not being to be satisfied with a doubtful Answer, He concluded Himself to be obliged by His Parole, if the said Centinels were taken away; which I then promised Him should be done, before the Commissioners: And accordingly it was immediately observed.

"My Lords, I thought it my Duty to give your Lordships an Account of these Passages; especially hearing that there is likely to be a Renewal of His Majesty's Parole for some longer Time, that, if your Lordships see Cause, it may be so put to Him, upon such Renewal of His said Parole, as may take off all such Reservations, which possibly may otherwise tend to the Disadvantage of the Parliament. I am,

Carisbrooke Castle, November 7th, 1648.

"My Lords,

"Your Lordships

"Most humble Servant,

"Ro. Hammond."

Letter to him with the following Vote about it, and thanking him for his Services.

"SIR,

"Your Letter of the 7th Instant, directed to the Committee at Derby House, touching the King's Parole, being communicated to the Houses of Parliament; they have commanded us herein to convey you their Resolution concerning the same, which is here inclosed; and to signify to you, That their Pleasure is, you should propose it to the King, that His Majesty may declare the like; whose positive Answer thereunto you are to send to the Houses by Monday next at the farthest. We are commanded, by both Houses of Parliament, to return you their hearty Thanks, for all your faithful Services to the Parliament and Kingdom, in relation to the great Trust reposed in you; which they take special Notice of, to be managed and carried on by you with great Prudence, and with a singular and constant Vigilancy for the Public Good. We are to assure you of the Esteem the Parliament hath both of you and them; and remain

"Your affectionate Friends."

King's Parole binds Him for 20 Days after the Treaty.

"The Lords and Commons assembled in Parliament do declare, That the King's Parole, given to the Governor of the Isle of Wight, doth bind Him to a Residence in the Isle of Wight, for Twenty Days after the Treaty shall be ended; notwithstanding any Addition that hath been, or shall be, made by both Houses for continuing the Treaty any longer than the Forty Days first appointed."

Sir T. Beddingfield to be sworn.

"Ordered, by the Lords and Commons assembled in Parliament, That Sir Thomas Bedding feild be sworn next after Mr. Samuell Browne."

Alexander to be instituted to Alderton;

Ordered, That Doctor Bennett give Institution and Induction unto To. Alexand'r Clerk, to the Rectory of Alderton, in Com. Suff. void by Death; salvo Jure cujuscunque: Mrs Anne Bacon Widow, Patroness.

Rainbow to Eaton Magna;

Ordered, That Doctor Aylett give Institution and Induction unto Doctor Edward Rainbowe Clerk, to the Rectory of Eaton Magna, alias East Staines Magna, in Com. Essex, void by Death; salvo Jure cujuscunque: William Lord Maynard, Patron.

Steinmer to Bentley Parva;

Ordered, That Doctor Aylett give Institution and Induction unto Henry Steinmer Clerk, to the Rectory of Bentley Parva, in Com. Essex; salvo, &c.: Jo. Herbert Esquire, Patron.

and Evenden to Heathfield.

Ordered, That Doctor Bennett give Institution and Induction unto Robert Evenden Clerk, Master of Arts, to the Vicarage of Heathfeild, in Com. Sussex; salvo Jure cujuscunque: George Churchar Esquire, Patron.

Footnotes

* Deeft in Originali.
Origin them.
After this, in the Original, occurs a confused Copy of L. Dunsmore's Order to deliver Writings, with the following Note in the Margin, "Entered afterwards fair." Vide p. 593. 2.
* Origin. the.