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House of Commons Journal Volume 3
17 October 1643

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'House of Commons Journal Volume 3: 17 October 1643', Journal of the House of Commons: volume 3: 1643-1644 (1802), pp. 277-279. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=331 Date accessed: 21 August 2014.


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Die Martis, 17 Octobris, 1643.

PRAYERS.

Withipoole's Sequestration.

ORDERED, That the Committee for Sequestrations, in the County of Suffolk, do certify unto the Committee of the Lords and Commons the Reasons and Grounds of the sequestring the Estate of Sir Wm. Withipoole.

Affairs of Shropshire.

A Letter from Sir Tho. Myddelton, from Weom in Shropshire, of the Sixth of October; relating the State of that County, and of the Forces under his Command, was this Day read.

Coquet Office.

Upon the Certificate of divers Merchants, testifying the Necessity of the Coquet Office; and that they are very willing it should be continued, provided there be no more charged upon it than Two Shillings, for the Seal, and passing of it; and, upon Mr. Shute's Offer to advance One thousand Pounds upon the Security of the Sequestrations, to be repaid within Six Months; and upon Certificate, that the said Office doth not belong to Sir John Wolstenholme Knight, in Arms against the Parliament, together with the Office of Collector of the Subsidies in the Port of London; It is Ordered, That the said Mr. Shute, upon his Advance of the said One thousand Pounds, shall be invested in the said Office belonging to Sir John Wolstenholme; and receive the Profits formerly received by the said Sir Jo. Wolstenholme; and that Mr. Crathorn shall execute the said Office, until the House take further Order: And the said One thousand Pounds is appointed to be advanced and paid towards the Repayment of the Five thousand Pounds advanced by Sir Tho. Middleton, and others; for which they have the publick Faith, and should have been repaid long since.

And it is further Ordered, That it be referred unto the Committee for Shropshire, to examine what is become of the Profits of the said Office received since the going away of Sir Jo. Wolstenholme; and to take Order for paying of it in; and that it be assigned to the Relief of Sir Tho. Middleton, and the Forces under him.

It is further referred to Mr. Moore, Mr. Asherst, and Mr. Rolle, who are added to the said Committee, or any Four of them, to consider out of what Payments Monies may be raised for Supply of the Forces unto Sir Tho. Middleton.

Earl of Denbigh.

Resolved, That the Lords be desired, that the Earl of Denbigh may speedily repair to his Charge.

Mr. Rich. Moore is appointed to go to the Lords with this Message.

Governor of Gloucester.

Ordered, That Sir Nevile Poole do go to my Lord General, to desire his Excellency, from this House, to continue Colonel Massie as Governor of Gloucester; and that the Gentlemen of that County will take care, that That Government shall be worth his Service and Employment.

Army Affairs.

Ordered, That a Message be sent unto the Lords, to desire their Lordships to appoint a Committee to join with a Committee of this House, forthwith to repair to my Lord General, and to advise with his Excellency, what is to be immediately done for the speedy Advance of the Armies, and to prevent the Inconveniencies that lie upon those Counties, who by their Payments and Contributions are to relieve and support the Armies; and to make Report hereof, with all convenient Speed.

Sir H. Fane is appointed to go up with this Message.

Exeise.

An Ordinance for Explanation of the Ordinance of Excise, in relation to Beer, Ale, Cyder and Perry, Brewers; and likewise in relation to the Commodities of new Draperies; was this Day read: and, by Vote upon the Question, assented unto, and carried up to the Lords, for their Concurrence.

Chattham Garison.

Ordered, That the Fifty Pounds Composition Monies paid in by Mr. Colpeper of Kent, and now remaining in Mr. Rich. Moore's Hand, Chairman in the Committee for Prisoners, be forthwith paid to Lieutenant Sam. Burges, in Part of the Arrears due to the Garison of Chattham; and that an Acquittance, under the Hand of the said Lieutenant Sam. Burges, shall be a sufficient Discharge to the said Mr. Moore, for so much as he shall receive by virtue of this Order.

Great Seal.

Upon Mr. Serjeant Wilde's Report from the Committee concerning the Great Seal;

It is Resolved, upon the Question, that the Great Seal of England shall be invalidated; and that the Time for invalidating all the Acts done by and under the Great Seal at Oxon, shall be from the Time that the Seal was taken from the Parliament: And that an Ordinance be brought in to this Purpose.

Resolved, &c. That the new Great Seal, made by Authority of both Houses of Parliament, shall be put into the Custody of Commissioners of both Houses.

Army Affairs.

Sir H. Vane brings Answer, that the Lords do agree to a Committee to the very same Purpose appointed by the Message carried up by him; and have named Five of their House; whereof Three shall constantly meet: And have appointed this Afternoon Three of Clock, for their meeting at Essex House.

Sir H. Vane, Sir Wm. Strickland, Mr. Recorder, Sir Arth. Heselrig, Sir Peter Wentworth, Mr. Rob. Goodwyn, Sir Jo. Curson, Mr. Lisle, Sir Gilb. Gerard, Sir Wm. Waller;

This Committee is appointed to join with a Committee of a proportionable Number of the Lords; and to meet this Afternoon at Three of Clock, in Essex House; to advise with his Excellency, what is to be immediately done for the speedy Advance of the Armies, and to prevent the Inconveniences that lie upon those Counties, who, by their Payments and Contributions, are to relieve and support the Armies: And are to make Report hereof with all convenient Speed.

Church Government.

Ordered, That the Committee formerly appointed to treat with the Scotts Commissioners, shall be the Committee appointed to join with a Committee of the Assembly, to meet and treat with the Divines from Scotland, concerning a Form of Church Government, Directory of Worship, Confession of Faith, and Form of Catechism.

The Lords Concurrence to be desired herein.

Common Council.

Ordered, That Mr. Recorder do move the Lord Mayor to call a Common Council To-morrow in the Afternoon.

Associated Counties.

Upon Mr. Goodwyn's Report from the Committee for the Six associated Counties;

It is Resolved, &c. That Sir Nath. Barnardiston and Mr. Lowry, Members of this House, do forthwith go down to Cambridge to take the Complaints concerning the Town and Castle of Cambridge into their Care; and to see that each County perform their Parts; and that the Committee there do meet; and, if any make Default, to certify their Names to the House; and to let the several Counties understand, that the Names of all the Committees, that do make Default of Appearance, shall be certified accordingly: And they are further to advise with the Committee, and to give Order for the Trained Bands to come in to the Relief of Cambridge upon Occasion.

Resolved, &c. That a Letter be sent to my Lord of Manchester, to inform him of this Complaint; and to desire him to take care of it; and, if any Country make Default in performing of their Parts, to levy it by Force.

A Letter to the same Purpose was brought in, and read; and, by Vote upon the Question, assented unto; and ordered to be signed by Mr. Speaker; and sent accordingly.

Resolved, upon the Question, That Lincolneshire shall be added to the Ordinance for raising of the Twentieth Part, and Sequestrations; in the same manner, as it is appointed for the other Six associated Counties.

The Lords Concurrence to be desired herein.

Council of War.

Mr. Pym, Sir Hen. Vane, Sir Wm. Waller, Sir Ar. Haselrigg, Mr. Solicitor, Mr. Prideaux, Sir Hen. Mildmy, Mr. Pury, Mr. Whittacre, Mr. Goodwyn, Sir Pet. Wroth, Sir Rob. Harley, Mr. Tate, Mr. Young;

This Committee is to consider, what Members of this House, and others, are fit to be nominated, as a Council of War; and what Number, and who, to be employed as Secretaries; and what Allowance is fit to be made for Intelligence; and to represent what else they think fit concerning the settling a Council of War: And are to meet this Afternoon Three Clock, in the Court of Wards.

Committees.

Ordered, That the several Committees for publick Business do report To-morrow; and the Committee for my Lord General's Army.

Allowance to Prideaux.

Ordered, That Mr. Prideaux, a Member of the House of Commons, who hath been plundered of all his Estate in the County of Devon, and his Wife and Children driven from thence, and now come to London, shall have such Proportion, or Value of Furniture, Houshold Stuff, and Goods of Malignants, as are sequestred, as the Committee of the Lords and Commons for Sequestrations shall think fit to allow or appoint unto him: And, upon such Direction or Appointment, the several Sequestrators of London, Middlesex, and Westminster, are authorized and required to deliver the same accordingly.

Affairs in the North.

Resolved, &c. That a Committee shall be appointed to join with a Committee of the Kingdom of Scotland, to reside in the North, concerning the Affairs of those Parts, and of that Army; according to the Propositions, sent from Scotland, and assented unto by both Houses.

Resolved, &c. That Mr. Robert Goodwyn, Mr. Barwis, Mr. Bryan Stapilton, and Mr. Robert Fenwick, shall be Four of the Committees appointed to meet with the Committee of Scotland, to reside in the Northern Parts, concerning the Affairs of those Parts and of that Army.

Resolved, &c. That Two of the City of London shall be appointed of this Committee: And that the Lord Mayor be desired to call a Common Council To-morrow.

Resolved, &c. That the Lords be moved, that Two Lords be appointed of this Committee.

Waller's Forces.

Ordered, That it be referred to the Western Gentlemen, to confer with Sir Wm. Waller about the filling up of his Regiments; and how Monies may be advanced for Payment of them; and enabling him to march upon his Return: And are to meet To-morrow at Seven of Clock, at Sir Wm. Waller's House.

Soldiers in Kent.

Letter from Mr. Blunt was read; and recommended to my Lord General, to take care the Soldiers in Kent plunder not.

Sir Edward Hales.

Ordered, That Sir Henry Hayman hath Leave to go and speak with Sir Edward Hales.

Committees added.

Resolved, &c. That Sir Peter Wentworth and Sir Richard Skeffington, and Pet. Burgoine Esquire, be added to the Committee for Warwickshire for Sequestrations.

Sir Richard Skeffington Knight, Colonel Jo. Barker, Jo. Hayles Esquire, Tho. Basnet Alderman, Rob. Phipps and Isaac Brummage Esquires, Pet. Burgoyne Esquire, to be of the Committee for Sequestrations for the City and County of Coventry.