Die Lunæ, videlicet, 11 die Novembris
Prayers, by Dr Gouge
Ds Grey de Warke, Speaker
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Comes Kent
Comes Rutland
Comes Sorum
Comes Nottingham
Comes Stamford
Comes Bolingbrooke
Comes Suffolke
Comes Denbigh
Comes Northumb
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Ds North
Ds Dacres
Ds Willoughby
Ds Maynard
Ds Bruce
Ds. Howard
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White and Middleton
Ordered, That the Cause between White and Midle
ton shall be heard this Day Sevennight, concerning Greye's
Estate
Vannenden versus Crosle & al
Upon reading the Petition of Wm Crosse, Joos Gooschall, John Rushoult, David Otger, and others, Defendants, against Ann Vannenden Plaintiff, humbly shewing, "That their Lordships, upon hearing of the Cause
between Mrs Vanenden and the Petitioners in this
House, Ordered that the Defendants should give an
Appearance grotis in some Court at Common Law to
the Plaintiff, and a Trial to be touching the Validity of
the Will of Alexander Vanenden, which was proved in
this House by divers Witnesses, who dwell in several
Parts, and if they should die, or be absent at the
Trial, the Petitioners may lose the Benefit of their
Testimony, which may be much to their Prejudice,
and in regard the Original Will is in the Clerk of the
Parliament's Hands, and for that there is a Cause
depending in Chancery by Mrs Vanenden, and the
Petitioners have answered, but the Plaintiff proceeds
not Therefore the humble Desire of the Petitioners
is, that the Original Will may be returned into the
Office of the Chancery, and that the Defendants,
giving Notice to the Plaintiff, may examine their
Witnesses in Chancery, for Proof of the Will, whereto Mrs Vonenden may cross examine if she please, to
the End Use may be made of the Depositions of such
Witnesses as shall be dead, or cannot be produced at
any Trial which she may prosecute when she please,
and that the said Will may remain in Chancery for
Security"
Hereupon this House Ordered and granted the
Prayer of the Petition, as is desired
Paper from the Assembly about Church Government
Next was read, the Paper lately brought from the Assembly of Divines, concerning some of the Government
of the Church
Ordinance to mitigate the One for Martial Law
The Ordinance for mitigating a Clause in the Ordinance giving (fn. *) Power of Martial Law to Commissioners
was read, and Agreed to with adding of the Word ["Corporal]
The Earl of Northumb reported to this House a Letter, which the Committee of both Kingdoms received from
the Earl of Manchester, Sir Wm Balfore, and Sir Wm Waller, which was read, dated from Newberry, the 9th of
November
Letter from the E of Manchester, &c that they had repulsed the Kings Forces at Newbury
"My Lords and Gentlemen,
"Yesterday, late in the Evening, we had certain Intelligence that the Enemy's whole Army were within
Five or Six Miles of us, and this Day, betwixt Ten
and Eleven of the Clock, they drew up to Donnington
Castle, and from thence, they both with their Horse
and Foot drew into a plain Field, between the Town
of Newberry and the Castle It was not held safe for
us to draw out, in regard the Castle by their Ordnance
would have done much Spoil upon us, therefore we
resolved to make good the Town The Enemy came
on upon us, but, by the Blessing of God, he received
such a Repulse as that he is retreated, and the Night
falling on, we could not pursue them, but we have
sent out Scouts to observe their Motions, and do in
tend to follow them We shall have a particular Care
of the Town of Reading, according to your Lordships
Commands in your Letter of the 8th of November,
which we received this Night My Lords and Gentlemen, we have nothing more to give your Lordships an
Account of, but rest
"Your Lordships humble Servants,
Newberry 9th Nov 1644
"E Manchester
"W Balfore
"Wm Waller"
Message to the H C with the Ordinance to mitigate the One for Martial Law
A Message was sent to the House of Commons, by
Sir Rob't Rich and Mr Page
To desire their Concurrence in the Alteration concerning the mitigating of a Clause in the Ordinance concerning Martial Law
Paper from the Assembly of Divine about Church Government
"To the Right Honourable the Lords and
Commons assembled in Parliament
"The humble Advice of the Assembly of Divines
by Ordinance of Parliament now sitting at
Westm concerning some Part of Church Government
"1 The Scripture doth hold out a Presbvtery in a
Church, both in the Trust Epistle to Tymotoy, Chapter
the Fourth, Verse the 14th, and in Acts, Chapter the
Fifteenth, Verses the 2d, 4th, and 6th
"2 A Presbytery consisteth of Ministers of the Word,
and such other Public Officers as are agreeable to, and
warranted by, the Word of God, to be Church Governors, to join with the Ministers in the Government
of the Church, as appears in the Epistle to the
Romans, Chapter the Twelfth, Verses the 7th and 8th,
1 Epistle to the Corinthians, Chapter Twelfth, Vorse
the 28th
"3 The Scripture doth hold forth, that many particular Congregations may be under One Presbyterial
Government
"This Proposition is proved by Instances
"First, of the Church of Hierusolem, which consisted
of more Congregations than One, and all those
Congregations were under One Presbyterial Government
"This appears thus
"1 The Church of Hierusalem consisted of more
Congregations than One, as is manifest,
"1 By the Multitude of Believers mentioned in divers Texts collated, both
before the Dispersion of the Believers
there (by Means of the Persecution
mentioned in The Acts of the Apostles,
Chapter the Eighth, in the Beginning
thereof), Witness, Chapter the First,
Verse the 15th, Chapter the Second,
Verses the 41th, 46th, and 47th,
Chapter the Fourth, Verse the 4th,
Chapter the Fifth, Verse 14th, and
Chapter the Sixth of the same Book of
Acts, Verses First and Seventh, and also, after that Dispersion, Acts the Ninth,
Verse 31th, Chapter the Twelfth,
Verse 24th, and Chapter the One and
Twentieth, Verse the 20th, of the same
Book
"2 By the many Apostles and other
Preachers in the Church of Hieruso
lem, and if there were but One Congre
gation there, then each Apostle preached but seldom, which will not consist
with Chapter the Sixth, Verse the 2d,
of The Acts of the Apostles
"3 The Diversity of Languages amongst
the Believers, mentioned both in the
Second and Sixth Chapters of The Acts,
doth argue more Congregations than
One in that Church
"2 All those Congregations were under One
Presbyterial Government, because,
"1 They were One Church, Acts, Chap
ter the Eighth, Verse the First, and
Chapter the Second, Verse 47th, compared with Chapter the Fifth, Verse
the 11th, Chapter Twelfth, Verse
the 5th, and Chapter Fifteenth, Verse
the 4th, of the same Book
"2. The Elders of that Church are mentioned, Acts, Chapter the Eleventh,
Verse the 30th, Chapter the Fifteenth,
Verses the 4th, 6th, and 22th, and
Chapter the One and Twentieth, Verses
the 17th and 18th, of the same Book
"3 The Apostles did the ordinary Acts
of Presbyters, as Presbyters in that
Church (which proves a Presbyterial
Church before the Dispersion), Acts, the
Sixth Chapter
"4 The several Congregations in Hierusalem being One Church, the Elders
of that Church are mentioned as meeting together for Acts of Government,
Acts, Chapter the Eleventh, Verse the
30th Acts, Chapter Fifteenth, Verses
4th, 6th, and 22th, and Chapter the
One and Twentieth, Verses 17th, 18th,
and so forward, which proves that those
several Congregations were under One
Presbyterial Government
"And whether those Congregations were
fixed or not fixed in regard of Officers or Members, it is all one as to
the Truth of the Proposition
"Nor do there appear any material Difference betwixt the several Congregations in Hiervsalem and the many Con
gregations now, in the ordinary Condition of the Church, as to the Point
of Fixedness in regard of Officers and
Members
"3 Therefore the Scripture doth hold forth,
that many Congregations may be under
One Presbyterial Government
"William Twisse, Prolocutor
"Cornelius Burgesse, Assessor
"John White, Assessor
"Henry Robrough, Scribe
"Adoniram Byfield"
Adjourn
House adjourned till 9a, Wednesday next