DIE Sabbati, 30 die Novembris.
PRAYERS, by Mr. Sallaway.
Ds. Grey de Warke, Speaker.
L. Viscount Say & Seale.
Whereas Thomas Welby is to accompt to the House
for Eleven Hundred Pounds received by him of the
Rents of Sutton Marsh, and to pay the Money to the
Earl of Pembrooke or his Assigns; the said Mr. Welby is
now ready to accompt: It is Ordered, That Mr. Johnson and Mr. Sanson shall hereby have Power to take the
Mr. Sharpe to be Minister of Sundrich.
Whereas an Ordinance was lately sent to the House
of Commons, for nominating Robert Cassingherst to be
Minister of Sundrich, in Kent; upon reading of a Letter
this Day to Mr. Sharpe, signifying, "That, in regard
of his ill Health, he is not able (fn. *) to officiate the said
Cure, and resigns to the said Sharpe:" It is Ordered, That the said Sharpe be recommended to the House
of Commons, that he may be appointed in Mr. Cassingherst's Place, to officiate the said Cure.
E. of Denbigh's Report of the Delivery of the Propositions for Peace to the King.
The Earl of Denbigh reported to this House, "That,
according to their Lordships Commands, he with the
rest delivered the Propositions to His Majesty, for a
safe and well-grounded Peace; and on Wednesday last,
in the Evening, he and the rest received this Paper
from the King, which was read: But the King gave
this Answer, "This is My Answer; and you must
take it, and carry it to those that sent you."
"Then the Paper was (fn. *) read, as followeth:
The King's Answer to them.
"The Propositions newly presented to His Majesty
being very long, and containing Matters in them of
very great Moment and Importance, as being in
great Part an Alteration of the Frame of Government both in Church and State; and the Messengers
who presented them declaring that they have no
Power to treat, or to consent to any Alteration; it
cannot be expected that His Majesty should return a
present, particular, and positive Answer: But, as He
hath from His Soul always desired the settling a
happy Peace in this distracted Kingdom, and to that
Purpose hath from Time to Time made all possible
Overtures, so He hopes that God will so work upon
the Hearts of all Persons concerned, that even this
Application (such as it is) upon further Thought and
Consideration may produce some good Effects towards
it; to the which, His Majesty calls God to Witness,
there shall be nothing wanting on (fn. †) His Part, which
is agreeable to Honour, Justice, and Conscience.
There shall all possible Expedition be used in preparing His Majesty's Answer, which He intends
speedily to send by Messengers of His own; and to
that Purpose, that there may be no Loss of Time,
He desires a safe Conduct may be presently sent, for
the Duke of Richmonde and the Earl of Southampton,
with their Attendants, to bring up His Majesty's said
Answer; and His Majesty doth heartily with, that
God may so well deal with Him and His, as He endeavours all just and lawful Ways to restore His
poor Kingdom to a lasting, happy, and blessed Peace.
"Given at the Court at Oxford, this of Nov.
Committee to consider of it.
Hereupon the Lord General, Lord Admiral, the Earls
of Northumb, Denbigh, and Manchester, Sarum, Viscount
Say & Seale, and the Lord North, are appointed presently (fn. *) to withdraw, to consider what is fit to be done
upon this Paper, and report their Opinions to the
Message to the H. C. for a Conference about it.
A Message was sent to the House of Commons, by
Sir Rob't Rich and Mr. Page:
To desire a present Conference, in the Painted Chamber, by a Committee of both Houses, concerning a Paper
received from the King.
The Earl of Kent presented a Paper to this House,
wherein he desired their Lordships Direction; which was
read, as followeth:
Report of the Prisoners convcted at Northampton.
"To the Right Honourable the Lords and others
His Majesty's Commissioners for the Great Seal
"May it please your Honours,
"We are bold to certify you, that we lately executing the Commissions of Oyer and Terminer and
Gaol Delivery for this County of North'ton, Thomas
Cleaver and John Appleyard were there convicted before us, for Horse stealing; and Robert Linacre and
Edward Warde for Murther of a Woman, by ducking
her for Witchcraft; and, after their Condemnation,
we thought it convenient, and did reprieve them:
We humbly present them to your Honours; and because they must remain in the Gaol, and will be a
daily Charge to the Country for their Allowance, and
are very able, and as they affirm willing, to serve in
the Wars for the King and Parliament, we humbly
desire your Honours would be pleased to direct a
Way for a general Pardon to pass for them; and
also for Elizabeth Warwicke and Alice Hampton, Two
Women which remain in the Gaol, and were long
sithence reprieved after their Condemnation by the
Judges of Assize; the rather, because we find it very
prejudicial in these Times to have our Gaol full of
Prisoners. All which, nevertheless, we leave to your
Honours grave Considerations; resting
"Your humble Servants,
North'ton, 13 Nov. 1644.
Edward Farmar, Vic. Com.
To be pardoned.
Ordered, That this House thinks fit to grant a
Pardon to the aforesaid Malefactors; and to desire the
Concurrence of the House of Commons therein.
Answer from the H. C.
The Messengers return with this Answer from the
House of Commons:
That they will give a present Conference, as is desired.
Heads for the Conference on the King's Answer to the Propositions for a Peace.
The Earl of Northumb. reported what the Committee
had prepared to offer to the House, concerning the Paper
received from the King; which was read, as followeth:
"That the Duke of Richmonde and the Earl of
Southampton, being employed by His Majesty unto
the Two Houses of Parliament, with His Answer unto
the Propositions of both Kingdoms lately presented
unto Him, shall have a safe Conduct to come to London, and return again, with their Necessaries and Attendance, not exceeding; and that this
may be referred unto the Committee of both Kingdoms, to the End that the Commissioners of Scotland
may herein be consulted with."
Ordered, That this be communicated and offered
to the House of Commons, at this Conference; and their
Concurrence to be desired.
The House was adjourned during Pleasure, and the
Lords went to the Conference; which being ended, the
House was resumed.
Message from the H. C. to refer the Matter of this Conference to the Committee of both Kingdoms.
A Message was brought from the House of Commons,
by Sir Rob't Harley Knight, &c.
To let their Lordships know, that the House of Commons concurs with their Lordships, in referring the Matter of the last Conference to the Committee of both
Kingdoms; and the House of Commons have made an
Addition to that Reference, wherein they desire their
The Addition was read; videlicet,
"That the debating of the Message, together with
the Papers sent from the Lords, be referred to the
Committee of both Kingdoms; and they are to return
to the Houses their Opinions, what they think fit to be
The Answer returned was:
This House agrees with the House of Commons in this
House adjourned till 11a, Monday next.