DIE Mercurii, 29 die Januarii.
PRAYERS, by Dr. Smith.
Ds. Grey de Warke, Speaker.
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L. General.
L. Admiral.
Comes Kent.
Comes Rutland.
Comes Northumb.
Comes Sarum.
Comes Manchester.
Comes Denbigh.
Comes Bolingbrooke.
Comes Suffolke.
Comes Stamford.
Comes Pembrooke. |
Ds. Wharton.
Ds. Willoughby.
Ds. Howard.
Ds. Mountague.
Ds. Bruce. |
Papers from the Scots Commissioners, concerning the Instructions to the Commissioners for the Treaty.
The Lord Wharton reported Three Papers from the
Scotts; which were read:
1. A Paper with an Addition to the Paper received
from them last Night.
2. A Declaration with (fn. †) what they understand by Matters of Religion.
3. Reasons why (fn. *) they made the Addition in the Vote.
The First Paper was read; and, after Debate, it was
Resolved, upon the Question, That this House agreed to
the same.
Message to the H. C. to concur in their Amendment;
A Message was sent to the House of Commons, by
Sir Edward Leech and Mr. Page:
To desire their Concurrence in the Paper now received from the Scottish Commissioners, and that it may
be One of the Instructions.
and that the Lords will sit P. M.
2. To let them know, that this House will sit at One
of the Clock this Afternoon.
The Lords went to the Fast Sermon, in the Abbey
Church.
Adjourn.
House adjourned till 1a post meridiem.
Post meridiem.
Ds. Grey de Warke, Speaker.
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L. General.
L. Admiral.
Comes Kent.
Comes Rutland.
Comes Pembrooke.
Comes Suffolke.
Comes Sarum.
Comes Denbigh.
Comes Manchester.
Comes Bolingbrooke.
Comes Stamford.
L. Viscount Say & Seale.
Comes Northumb. |
Ds. Howard.
Ds. Bruce.
Ds. Mountague.
Ds. Willoughby.
Ds. Wharton. |
Letter from Colonel Fortescue, concerning the Wants of the Army near Farnham.
The Lord General acquainted this House with a Letter written to him from Colonel Fortescue, dated from
Farneham, 28th January, 1644; shewing the Wants of
the Forces, both of Monies and other Provisions.
Hereupon the House Ordered, That, for the present, this Letter be communicated to the House of Commons; and to take the Business further into Consideration To-morrow Morning, and to have a Conference
with the House of Commons about it.
Answer from the H. C.
Sir Edward Leech and Mr. Page returned with this
Answer from the House of Commons:
That they will send an Answer, by Messengers of
their own, to the Paper from the Scotts Commissioners.
Message to them, that this House will fit a while.
A Message was sent to the House of Commons, by
Sir Edward Leech and Mr. Page:
To deliver the Letter to them, sent from the Lord
General; and to let them know, that this House is to fit;
and, if they have any Thing to bring up for the Dispatch of the Commissioners to Uxbridge, their Lordships
are ready to receive it.
Message from thence, with an Ordinance.
A Message was brought from the House of Commons,
by Mr. Nicolls:
To desire Concurrence in an Ordinance for Continuance of the Ordinance concerning the Excise.
Read Thrice, and Agreed to. (Here enter it.)
The Answer returned was:
Answer.
That this House agrees to this Ordinance concerning
the Excise.
Thanks to the Preachers at the Fast.
Ordered, That Mr. Vynes and Mr. Newcomen have
hereby Thanks returned them, for their great Pains in
preaching this Day in the Abbey Church; and they
are desired to print their Sermons.
Preachers at the next.
Ordered, That this House appoints Mr. Ash and
Mr. Perne to preach the next Fast Day, in the Abbey
at Westm.
Message from the H. C. for a Conference about the Instructions to the Commissioners for the Treaty.
A Message was brought from the House of Commons,
by Mr. Erle:
To desire a Conference, by a Committee of both
Houses, so soon as it may stand with their Lordships
Conveniency, touching the Instructions to be given to
the Committees that are to go to Uxbridg to treat; and
that the Lords of the Committee of both Kingdoms may
meet at Derby House, at the Rising of the House, they
having Ordered their Members of that Committee to
meet likewise.
The Answer returned was:
Answer.
That this House will give a present Conference, in the
Painted Chamber, as is desired; and that they have appointed the Lords of the Committee of both Kingdoms to meet at Darby House, at the Rising of the
House.
The Lords went to the Conference; which being
ended, the House was resumed.
Report of the Conference.
And the Speaker reported the Effect of the Conference, "That they have considered of the Paper concerning the Instructions, as it came from the Scotts
Commissioners; and they agree unto it with the Alterations."
Which being read, this House Agreed with the House
of Commons therein. (Here enter them.)
Papers from the Scots Commissioners.
(Here enter the Two Papers of the Scotts, concerning what they understand, touching the Matter of Religion, and their Reasons for their Addition to the Paper.)
Ordinance to continue the One for the Excise.
"Whereas the Lords and Commons in Parliament
assembled have thought fit to continue the several
Rates and Charges of Excise, or new Impost, already
settled and established by Authority of both Houses:
Be it hereby Ordained, by the said Lords and Commons in Parliament assembled, That all and every the
Ordinances touching the Excise or new Impost, and
every Clause, Sentence, Article, and other Thing
and Things, in them and every of them contained and
expressed, and now in Force, as well for the governing and ordering of the Excise, as for the settling,
laying, and imposing, several Rates and Charges upon
sundry and divers Commodities, shall, next after their
and every of their particular and respective Expirations, be, and hereby are, continued, prolongued, and
to be received, in and throughout the Kingdom of
England, Dominion of Wales, and Town of Berwicke,
until the First Day of April, 1646: And it is further
Ordained and Declared, by Authority aforesaid, That
John Towse, Thomas Foote, John Kendrick, Thomas
Cullum, Symond Edmonds, Esquires, and Aldermen of
the City of London, John Lamott and Edward Claxton, of the same, Esquires, the present Commissioners
of Excise or new Impost, shall remain and be the
Chief Commissioners and Governors of the whole
Office and Receipts of the Excise and new Impost,
in and through the whole Kingdom of England, Dominion of Wales, and Town of Berwicke; and shall
and may do and execute all and every the said Ordinances, Clauses, Articles, and other Thing and
Things, in all and every the said Ordinances contained,
mentioned, and expressed, in the same Manner and
Form, and to the same Intents and Purposes, for,
during, and until, the said First Day of April, 1646,
with the like Allowance of Six Pence upon every
Twenty Shillings that shall come in upon the Receipts of the Excise or new Impost: And it is further Ordained, That the said Commissioners and their
Sub-commissioners shall make and deliver up their respective Accompts, in such Manner as is directed and
prescribed by the Ordinance of the 31th of August
last past: And it is likewise Ordained, That as well
all and every the said Commissioners, their Sub-commissioners, and Officers, as all and every other Person and Persons whatsoever, who shall do, (fn. *) or cause
any Thing to be done, in Pursuance of this Ordinance, shall be protected, saved harmless, and indemnified, by Authority of both Houses of Parliament."
"Instructions for the Committee of both Houses of
the Parliament of England, and for the Commissioners of the Kingdom of Scotland, respectively agreed upon.
Instructions for the Commissioners appointed to treat with the King's Commissioners at Uxbridge.
"1. You shall repair to Uxbridge, where you, or
any Ten of you, whereof some of either House of
the Parliament of England and some of the Commissioners of the Kingdom of Scotland to be present,
shall treat with the Persons sent thither by His Majesty, from the 30th Day of January, during the
Space of Twenty Days, upon the Propositions concerning Religion, the Militia, and for Ireland, formerly sent to His Majesty from His humble and
loyal Subjects assembled in the Parliaments of both
Kingdoms.
"2. You shall treat upon the Propositions concerning Religion, the Militia, and Ireland, Three Days
apiece (alternis vicibus), during the Space of Twenty
Days, beginning First with the Propositions of Religion; which, as it is of most Excellency, so is it to
be sought after, and finally agreed upon, in the First
Place, before any final Agreement be made upon any
of the other Propositions.
"3. You shall use your best Endeavours, that the
aforementioned Propositions may be agreed unto,
without receding from the Matter of them.
"4. You shall deliver your Demands, and receive
Answers to them, in Writing.
"5. The Members of both Houses of the Parliament
of England are to give frequent Advertisements of
their Proceedings in this Treaty to both Houses of
Parliament, by some of their own Number, or otherwise."
Papers from the Scots Commissioners; concerning the Propositions for the Treaty, touching Religion.
"By the Agreement upon the Propositions for Religion, before a finall Agreement bee made upon any of
the other Propositions, wee understand the approveing
of the Covenant, the Directory for Worshipp, the
Votes given in by the Assembly of Divines concerning Church Government, and passed the Houses, the
assenting to the Bill against Episcopacy, &c. the ratifying of the Ordinance for the calling of the Assembly of Divines, &c. and soe much as shall passe both
Houses before the expireing of the Twenty Dayes.
29 Jan. 1644.
"J. Cheisly, Sec. Commiss.
"1. As the Rule of universall Righteousnes prescribeth, that wee give to each One that which is due
unto him; soe doth the Lawe of Piety and true Policy
require, that Religion which rendreth unto God His
Due, have the Precedency, not only in Debate, but
in Determination; and that the House of God, according to the Example of the wisest of Men, bee
built before our owne Houses.
"2. In relation to ourselves, wee are First to seeke the
Kingdome of God, and to provide for the Meanes for
our Salvation; haveinge a Promise, that other Things
shal bee added; and Confidence that, from the House
of God, Blessings shall issue forth upon our owne Matters.
"3. Religion had, upon good Reason, the First Place
in our Solemne League and Covenant; and, upon the
same Reason, ought to have the First Place now in
the performing of our Vowes.
"4. All the Reformed Churches, which have their
Eyes now upon us, and greate Hopes from us, will expect this Order at our Hands; and, according to their
Intelligence in the Matter of Religion, will bee comforted or dejected.
"5. Wee cannott expresse how greate an Incouragment the setling of Religion will bee to the Parliament and Nationall Assembly, now sitting in Scotland,
and to that whole Kingdome, in their Undertakeing;
and how much it will excite them to maintaine Religion once established, and to obtayne our other Demaunds, without which Religion cannott bee preserved.
"6. The inverting of this Order would obdure the
Hearts of too many in their Errors, that Religion is
not principally intended by us.
"7. It might alsoe give Hopes to His Majesty, that
wee may bee moved by Tyme to dispence in some
Matters of Religion, and to part from our Conclusions.
29th Jan. 1644.
"Jo. Cheisly, Secr. Commiss."
Adjourn.
House adjourned till 9a cras.