DIE Mercurii, 5 die Februarii.
Ds. Grey de Warke, Speaker.
L. Viscount Say & Seale.
Capell, the Venetian Interpreter, a Protection.
Upon reading a Paper from John Baptist Capell, Interpreter to the Venetian Embassy in this Kingdom:
(Here enter the Paper.) It is Ordered, That he shall
have a Protection for the House and Persons, according to a List, until he hears from the Senate of Venice.
Message from the Assembly, with Papers, concerning Excommunication.
A Message was brought from the Assembly of Divines, by Dr. Burges and others:
To deliver to their Lordships Two Papers concerning
Excommunication, which were received by this House.
Papers relative to Col. Middleton's Army, the Committees of the associated Counties of Essex, &c. and the Committee at Leicester.
The Lord Admiral reported to this House, from the
Committee of both Kingdoms, divers Papers; which
1. A Narrative of Colonel Middleton's, concerning
the Army under his Charge.
2. A Letter from divers of the Committees of the
Seven associated Counties of Norff. and Suff. &c.
(Here enter it.)
3. Instructions from the Deputy Lieutenants and Committees of the Seven associated Counties, to Commissioners from them. (Here enter it.)
4. A Letter from the Committee at Leycester to the
Committee of both Kingdoms, concerning a Protection
of the Coal-mines reciprocal.
5. A Copy of the Protection was read.
Ordered, That these Papers be communicated to
the House of Commons; and to desire that they would
appoint a Committee of their House, to join with a
Committee of Ten Lords, to consider what is fit to be
done upon the Letter and Instructions from the Seven
associated Counties; and to report their Opinion to this
Any Three Lords, to meet To-morrow in the Afternoon, at Three a Clock.
Col. Michell and Mr. Osbaston.
The House being informed, "That Colonel Michell
hath rendered (fn. *) himself to the Gentleman Usher:"
It is Ordered, That he be heard, by his Counsel, on
Monday Morning, touching the Business in Difference
between him and Mr. Osbaston, who is to have Notice
of it; and that Colonel Michell in the mean (fn. †) Time to
go upon Bail.
Papers about Excommunication.
Next, the Papers concerning Excommunication were
read Once, and Ordered to be read again To-morrow
Message from the H. C. with an Ordinance.
A Message was brought from the House of Commons,
by Mr. Greene, &c.
To desire their Lordships (fn. ‡) Concurrence in an Ordinance, intituled, "An Ordinance for the Subsidy of
Tonnage and Poundage."
The Answer returned was:
That their Lordships will take this Ordinance into
Consideration, and send an Answer by Messengers of
Smith and Mayne sent for, for arresting Powell, Serjeant at Arms.
Upon reading the Petition of John Powell, One of
His Majesty's Serjeants at Arms in Ordinary; complaining, "That Yesterday he was arrested in Westm. Hall,
by one Robert Mayne, a Bailiff, at the Suit of one
Christopher Smith, he not being any-wise indebted to
him, which Arrest was much to his Prejudice; therefore, considering he hath always been resident in
Town, and hath chearfully contributed and paid all
Assessments and Taxes to the Parliament, therefore
the Petitioner desireth that the said Smyth and Mayne
may be brought before this House, to shew Cause
why they have thus injured him."
Which this House Ordered the same accordingly,
and that they appear To-morrow Morning.
Ordinance for Tonnage and Poundage.
Next, the Ordinance for the Subsidy of Tonnage
and Poundage was read Twice, and committed to (fn. ||) these
Any Three, to meet To-morrow Morning, at Nine
Mr. Serjeant Whitfield and Mr. Serjeant Fynch.
Letters and Instructions from the Deputy Lieut's of the associated Counties of Essex, &c.
Ordered, That the Letter and Instructions of the
Seven associated Counties be referred to this aforesaid
Committee, adding the Lord General and the Earl of
Manchester to it; and to meet in the Afternoon, at Two
of the Clock.
Message to the H. C. for Committees to meet about them, and a Letter from the Committee at Leicester.
A Message was sent to the House of Commons, by
Sir Edw. Leech and and Mr. Page:
To let them know, that their Lordships have received
a Report from the Committee of both Kingdoms, with
those Papers, being sent unto them from the Committees of the Eastern Association, and from Leycester:
Their Lordships think fit the Letter and Instructions
from the associated Counties be taken into Consideration;
therefore to let them know, their Lordships have appointed a Committee of Ten Lords to take the Letter
and Instructions of the associated Counties, and the Letter from Leycester, into Consideration; and to report
what they think fit to be done thereupon; and to desire
that the House of Commons would join a Committee
of a proportionable (fn. *) Number, to join with the Lords,
to meet in the Prince's Lodgings, at Two a Clock Tomorrow in the Afternoon, to take the same into Consideration.
Letter from the Deputy Lieutenants of the associated Counties of Essex, &c. to the Committees of both Kingdoms, against the new-modeling of the Army.
"To the Right Honourable the Committee for
both Kingdoms. These, humbly present.
"We hold it our Duty to render an Account to
your Lordships of a general Meeting of Deputy Lieutenants and Committees, selected and deputed from
the Seven associated Eastern Counties, assembled at
Bury St. Edmond's, to advise for the mutual and future Assistance of each other, for the composing of
the Fears of the People, and for Answer of your
Lordships Letter concerning Recruits of our Army;
and, according to the Result of the said Conference,
we humbly exhibit to your Lordships Consideration
the sad Apprehensions had by the People of these
Counties, of the Alteration in the Army now in Agitation in the Parliament, as that which will take away
from them not only the Head and Body of their
Strength, designed, promised, and by Ordinance settled for their mutual Assistance, but also deprive them
of Means of future Subsistence and Consistence, and
so render their solemn Promise of Association ineffectual, which God Almighty hitherto hath graciously honoured, by Witness of His Concurrence,
with Success of Victory to the Army, and general
Peace of the most Part even to their Borders, to the
Wonderment of all Observers, and Envy of the Enemy. We may not conceal from your Lordships other
their Complaints, of being left naked to the secret
Malignants at Home, and to the watchful enraged
Enemy Abroad, not to be withstood without Hindrance of their Callings, and spending of their Stocks
upon Alarums, as hitherto they have been, and yet
deeply charged also in Maintenance of our Army and
other Forces in Service elsewhere; by all which, your
Lordships may conjecture how hardly Recruits will
arise, especially to unknown Captains and Commanders: Nevertheless, for our own Parts, none of
these Discouragements, or any private Regard, shall
withdraw our Zeal from the Service of your Honours,
the Parliament and Kingdom, not only in the recruiting of our Army, but by giving all Encouragement
we are able to the Forces to go to the West, or
wheresoever they shall be ordered, according to our
Proportion, in Defence to the other Armies: Yet,
for the facilitating of the said Recruits, we humbly
offer to your Lordships, that One Ordinance, or more,
may be passed, to enable us to impress Men, and to
deduct Money for the Coat and Conduct of the Soldiers, out of the Weekly Assessments which shall be
laid upon us, without which the Work can never be
effected; and that, for the Encouragement of the
Soldiers, each County may have Power to pay their
own Men, and that some Provision may be made for
Relief of sick and maimed; and by this Means, we
hope, the Work may prove successful and seasonable;
which being done, if we may not have their continuing Assistance for our mutual Defence, which we
cannot but desire, in Consistence with the Public, we
make this our humble and most earnest Request, That
our Brethren of the Scotts Army in the North Parts
may forthwith be speeded down to Newarke, and
besiege that Place, which hath been a Sore to the
Association from the Beginning of these Wars hitherto, and is like to prove an Issue to waste the poor
Remainder of the Means thereof, and more especially
of our associated Friends of Lincolneshire, if some
speedy Proceeding be not made against that Place.
This, together with the People's Expectation of your
Lordships Care of them in relation to this our humble
Proposal, will, we hope, settle the disturbed Motions
of their Mind, and keep them ready at your Service;
to which also we humbly offer ourselves.
"Your Honours devoted Servants,
Bury St. Edmonds, 30 Janu. 1644.
"Other Matters we have further
committed in Remembrance to
these Gentlemen of the several
Counties, to whom we humbly beseech your Lordships to
vouchsafe a favourable Admittance with their Instructions."
"Bury, 31 Januarii, 1644.
"Instructions delivered by the Deputy Lieutenants
and Committees of the associated Counties of
Norffolke, Suff. Essex, Cambridge, Hartford,
Huntingdon, and Lincolne, at their Meeting at
Bury St. Edmond's, in Suff. to be presented
unto the Committee of both Kingdoms, by
Sir William Brownlowe, Sir Thomas Trolloppe,
Mountague Cholmley Esquire, William Drury
Esquire, Edward Clench Esquire, James Thompson Esquire, Alban Cocks Esquire, William
Dauge Esquire, Henry Mildmay, Oliver Reymond, Thomas Southerton, Robert Jeremey
Esquires, Sir Thomas Barnardiston Knight,
and Robert Brewster Esquire.
Instructions from the Deputy Lieut's of that Association to Commissioners appointed by them to the Committee of both Kingdoms.
"That no Military Power be exercised in the Association, but by Ordinance of Parliament.
"That all the Forts and Magazines, in each County
of the Association, to be committed to the Care and
Disposal of such Persons as the Deputy Lieutenants
and Committees of each County shall confide in.
"That every County may be enjoined to pay their
Forces Monthly; and that, in case they should fail of
Treasure sufficient, they may be enabled to advance
Money upon Interest, to be re-paid out of the next
Monies: This will both prevent Mutinies, and usual
Recruits in a great Measure.
"That the Deputy Lieutenants and Committees in
each County may put in Execution all former and
"That the Seven associated Counties, and the Two
Cities of Norwich and Lincolne, may have their several
and certain Proportion of Men, Money, and Horses,
set by Parliament.
"That, in case any Alarum come from a considerable Body of the Enemy, to any County of the
Association, which shall be and continue about Three
Days, necessitating the raising of the Trained Bands
or Auxiliaries, that then the Charge shall be born
by every County in the Association, according to the
"That, in case these Forces now intended to be
raised by Authority of Parliament shall not be thought
sufficient for Accomplishment of a desired Period to
this destructive Civil War, that then this Association
will use their best Diligence, and endeavour to raise
their utmost Power and Strength, to join with like
proportionable Forces of other Parts and Counties,
for the speedy finishing and eradicating this unnatural
"These our humble Proposals we present, by the
Gentlemen above named, unto the Right Honourable Committee of both Kingdoms.
House adjourned till 9a cras.