House of Lords Journal Volume 7: 21 March 1645

Journal of the House of Lords: Volume 7, 1644. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1767-1830.

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'House of Lords Journal Volume 7: 21 March 1645', in Journal of the House of Lords: Volume 7, 1644, (London, 1767-1830) pp. 282-283. British History Online https://www.british-history.ac.uk/lords-jrnl/vol7/pp282-283 [accessed 25 March 2024]

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DIE Veneris, 21 die Martii.

PRAYERS, by Mr. Delmy.

Ds. Grey de Warke, Speaker.

L. General.
Comes Northumb.
Comes Kent.
Comes Rutland.
Comes Pembrooke.
Comes Sarum.
Comes Nottingham.
Comes Bolingbrooke.
Comes Stamford.
L. Admiral.
Comes Manchester.
Comes Denbigh.
L. Viscount Say & Seale.
Ds. North.
Ds. Howard.
Ds. Bruce.
Ds. Dacres.
Ds. Wharton.

Bastwick, Burton, and Prynn's Cause.

Upon hearing the Counsel of John Bastwicke Doctor in Physic, Mr. Burton, and Wm. Prynn of Lyncolnes Inne Esquire, concerning "an undue and unjust Sentence given in the High Commission Court against Doctor Bastwicke, and another illegal and unjust Proceeding against them all Three in the Star Chamber."

It is Ordered, That, if there be no just Cause shewed to the contrary by the First Day of the next Term, this House will proceed to Judgement in this Business.

Scotch Papers.

Upon reading the Report of the Scottish Papers, from the Committee of both Kingdoms: (Here enter them.) It is Ordered, To be taken into Consideration To-morrow Morning, at which Time all the Lords are to have Notice to attend the House.

Lord Savill to be released, on his Parole.

Upon reading the Petition of the Lord Savill: (Here enter it.) It is Ordered, That if his Lordship will deliver in a Petition to this House, and declare upon his Honour, that he will (fn. 1) appear before the Lords in Parliament when he shall be summoned, that then he shall have Leave to go at Liberty within the Line of Communication; and that his Lady shall have Liberty to come and live with him.

"Die Mercurii, 19 Martii, 1644.

Scotch Paper: from the Committee of both Kingdoms.

"At the Committee of both Kingdoms at Derby House.

"Ordered, That the Two Papers given in by the Scottish Commissioners, One concerning the Army in Ireland, the other a Desire of an Answer to a former Paper of the Third of March, be reported to both Houses.

"That the Third Paper this Day given in by the Scotts Commissioners, being an Answer to a Paper to them, delivered the 11th of March, by the Committee of both Houses appointed to treat with the Scotts Commissioners, according to an Order of the House of Commons, be reported to both Houses.

"Gualter Frost,

"Secr. to the same Committee."

Concerning the Necessities of their Army in Ireland.

"The extreame Necessityes and Desires of the Scottish Army in Ireland being represented unto your Lordships and the Houses of Parliament from the Parliament of Scotland, and from Tyme to Tyme pressed with all Earnestnes by Col. George Monro and Major Borthwicke, sent hither from that Army, and nothing done towards their present Subsistance or future Maintenance, though the Tyme lymitted for their Stay here bee expired; wee cannott but represent unto your Lordships, that the Interest the Kingdome of Scotland hath in that Army, whereof soe many have beene famished and starved in your Service for Want of tymeous Supplyes, and now is driven to such a desperate Condition as they must either perish or take some speedy Course for their owne Safety and Preservation, doth inforce us to desire a positive Answere from the Houses of Parliament to the Propositions of that neglected Army, and that with such Expedition as wee may bee enabled to give an Accompt thereof to the Parliament of Scotland, or their Committees, and soe, that Army, by these Gentlemen, who are to goe from hence upon Friday next.

19 Martii, 1644.

"Signed, Jo. Cheisly."

For an Answer to their former Paper, concerning the modelling the Army.

"Whereas wee have not yet received any Answere to our Paper of the Date March 3, and are daily by the Events and Progresse of Affaires more confirmed and assured of the Necessity of the Particulers remonstrated therein, both for keepeing a right Understanding betwixt the Kingdomes, and the better carrying on the Warre to the wished Ends of settling Uniformity of Religion and Peace; wee desire to knowe, whether the Honnorable Houses have taken the same to their Consideration, and doe expect an Answere thereunto; and if it containe any Thing which requireth further cleareing, wee shal by Conferrence endeavour to give Sattisfaction therein, least the Answere bee further delayed.

19 Martii, 1644.

"Signed, Jo. Cheisly."

Answer from them, concerning their Army marching Southward.

"In Answere to your Lordships Paper of the 11th of this Instant, concerning the advanceing of the Scottish Army Southward, your Lordships would consider the greate Wants and Necessityes that Army hath beene reduced unto, through the many and hard Services they have beene upon since their comeing into this Kingdome, the greate Arreares due unto them, and that noe Supply of Armes, Ammunition, and other Necessaryes, hath beene afforded them; nor hath any Part of the Money and other Provisions long since promised beene yet sent from hence, without which their present Marching cannott bee expected; and soe soone as they shal bee enabled, wee are confident, they wil bee wanting in nothing that may advance the Publique Service; and for the present, they have, out of their Care of the Safety of those Parts aboute Chester, prevented your Desires, in sending Fower Regiments of Horse, and Two Thousand comauaded Foote, under Commaund of Lieutenant Generall David Lesly, for Assistance of Sir William Brereton; and wee shall send your Lordships Paper to the Committee residing with the Army, by whome (as is not unknowne to your Lordships) that Army according to the Treaty is to bee ordered and directed.

"And when wee consider the present Posture of Affaires, wee cannott but represent unto your Lordships, that the Forces of Prince Rupert, Prince Maurice, Sir Marm. Langdale, and Colonell Gerard, and soe in Effect almost the whole Strength of the Enemyes Forces, are drawne into the North West Parts of this Kingdome, where some of the Irish Rebells are already landed, and more daily expected from Ireland; and the last Yeares Experience may teach us how ready the illaffected in Chesheire, Lancasheire, and those Parts, will bee to joyne with them, and how quickly they may increase to such a considerable Strength, as may not only endanger the Safety of the Northern Countyes of this Kingdome, but alsoe attempt the invadeing the Kingdome of Scotland (which is credibly informed to bee intended), and soe force the withdraweinge the Assistance may bee expected here from the Scottish Army.

"What Danger may beefall the Forces of Sir William Brereton, wee leave to your Lordships to consider, when the Scottish Army, by reason of the Increase of the Troubles of their Native Kingdome, cannot bee presently recruited from thence; nor have they beene enabled from hence with tymeous Supplyes of Money, Armes, and Amunition, to march Southward, though since the 11th of August it hath beene earnestly pressed and desired; neither is my Lord Fairefax in that Condition as to defend Yorkesheire, or to send him any considerable Strength, without exposeing that County to manifest Hazard and Danger, from the Newarke Forces and their Assistants; all which considered, wee doe most earnestly desire, for the common Good and Interest of both Kingdomes, and the Advantage of the Cause wherein both are soe deeply ingaged and concerned, that a considerable Strength of the Forces already raised, and in being here, may speedily bee sent Northward, for Releife of those Parts that are pressed with the whole Weight of the Warre, without staying upon present Recruits, or Addition of new-leavyed Forces, to the Losse of the Halfe of One of the Kingdomes, and endangering the Safety of both, which, upon due Consideration, wee beleeve your Lordships will finde doth amount to noe lesse; and if noe Course shal bee taken for preventing these groweing Mischeifes and Troubles to ensue, wee hope that whatsoever may bee the Event or ill Consequences thereof they shall not bee imputed to us, who have given your Lordships soe tymeous Advertisement.

19 Martii, 1644.

"Signed, Jo. Cheislie."

Lord Savill's Petition, for his Enlargement.

"To the Right Honourable the Lords and Peers of the Parliament of England.

"The Humble Petition of the Lord Savile;

"Humbly sheweth,

"That your Petitioner, being heretofore by the Earl of Newcastle committed a close Prisoner to the Castle of Newarke for the Space of above Twenty-six Weeks, and from thence sent to Oxford to His Majesty, where he hath been again close committed ever since before Christmas until Saturday last; and that, by reason of the said several Imprisonments, your Petitioner hath contracted, and hath been and is still grievously afflicted with, the Pain of the Stone; and is besides utterly exhausted of all his Means and Abilities to subsist, having for this Three Years Space received no Part of the Benefit of his Estate, but hath had his Houses defaced, and all his Household Stuff sold, by His Majesty's Forces; so that he is not able to endure any longer Imprisonment in his Body without the great Hazard of his Life, nor can be able to bear the Charges of it in his Purse:

"He doth therefore most humbly beseech your Lordships, to take into your noble Considerations the Petitioner's hard Estate and Condition; and to be pleased to allow unto him the Liberty of the Town, within the Lines of Communication; he putting in Security not to depart the same, but to be ever ready to throw himself at the Feet of your Lordships Justice, whensoever you shall please to command.

"And he shall ever pray for your Lordships Happiness and Prosperity.

"Savile."

Footnotes

  • 1. Origin, be appear.