Die Veneris, 4 die Aprilis.
Prayers, by Mr. Newcomen.
Ds. Grey de Warke, Speaker.
E. of Essex.
E. of Kent.
E. of Pembrooke.
E. of Rutland.
E. of Bolingbrooke.
E. of Manchester.
E. of Denbigh.
E. of Nottingham.
L. Viscount Say & Seale.
Lady Alice Hastings versus E. of Bridgewater.
Upon reading the Petition of the Lady Alice Hastings;
shewing, "That the Earl of Bridgwater stands bound
to her in Three Thousand Pounds, which is her whole
Estate; and she desiring his Lordship to give his
Lordship's Security and his Son, he refuses to do."
It is Ordered, That the said Petition be shewed to
the said Earl of Bridgwater, by the Earl of Bolingbrooke;
and his Lordship to return his Answer to the same to
Message from the H. C. that 17 Irish were hanged at the Taking of Shrewsbury; and that Prince Rupert had hanged as many Protestants;
A Message was brought from the House of Commons,
by Mr. Reynolds:
To let their Lordships know, that they have received
Letters from the Committee of Shrewsbury; signifying,
That, upon the Taking of Shrewsbury, they hanged
up Seventeen Native Irish, according to the Ordinance
of Parliament; and since, Prince Rupert hath caused
Seventeen Protestants:" So the House of Commons
hath drawn up a Letter, to be sent to Prince Rupert, by
the Lord General, concerning this Business.
and with Ordinances, &c. for Concurrence.
2. To desire their Lordships Concurrence in divers
1. An Ordinance for impresting Watermen and
2. An Ordinance for One Thousand Pounds, for
Sir John Meldrum. (Here enter it.)
Read, and Agreed to.
3. An Order for Fifty Pounds, for Captain Fleming. (Here enter it.)
4. An Order for Two Hundred Pounds, for Windsor
Garrison. (Here enter it.)
5. An Order for Two Hundred Pounds, for Major
Carre. (Here enter it).
Read, and Agreed to.
6. An Order to pay Two Hundred Pounds to
Colonel Barclay. (Here enter it.)
Next, the Letter from the Committee written to the
Speaker of the House of Commons, was read.
(Here enter it.)
Also Prince Rupert's Secretary's Letter was read.
(Here enter it.)
Letter to Prince Rupert.
The Draught of the Letter to be sent to Prince
Rupert by the Lord General, was read, and Agreed to.
And it is Ordered, That the Lord General is
hereby directed to sign and send the same accordingly.
(Here enter it.)
The Answer returned was:
Answer to the H. C.
That concerning the Ordinance for pressing of Mariners and Bargemen, their Lordships will send an Answer
by Messengers of their own. To all the rest of the
Particulars of this Message, their Lordships do agree to
Ordinance for 2000l. of Mr. Coriton's to be paid to the State.
The Lord Viscount Say & Seale reported, "That
the Committee have considered of the Ordinance for
Two Thousand Pounds of Mr. Corriton's to be paid
to the State; and think it fit to pass, with an Alteration:" Which being read, this House Agreed to
the same, with this Alteration; and Ordered to be
sent to the House of Commons, to desire their Concurrence.
Ordinance for pressing Watermen.
Next, the Ordinance for impresting of Watermen
and Bargemen, was read, and Agreed to, with a Proviso.
Committee to treat with the French Minister about Remonstrances.
Ordered, That the Committee of Lords and Commons have hereby Power to hear the French Resident
upon such Matters as are referred and depending before
the said Committee; and to receive and consider of any
other Papers, which he shall give in unto that Committee: And the Committee have further Power to
receive the Petitions and Complaints of the Subjects of
this Kingdom, for any Injuries done by the French,
and to demand Satisfaction thereupon from the Resident.
Heads for the Conference on the Ordinance for excluding Members of either House, from holding Offices.
The Lord Viscount Say & Seale reported from the
Committee, the Subject Matter of the Conference upon
their Lordships passing the Ordinance for discharging
the Members of both Houses from Offices; which, being
read, were approved of. (Here enter it.)
Heads for a Conference about the Declaration of the H. C. for maintaining the Peerage.
The Earl of Northumb. reported from the Committee,
what they thought fit to be returned at a Conference with
the House of Commons, upon the Declaration of the
House of Commons, concerning the maintaining of
The Paper being read, it was Agreed to.
(Here enter it.)
Message to the H. C. for a Conference on these Subjects.
A Message was sent to the House of Commons, by
Mr. Serjeant Fynch and Dr. Heath:
To deliver to them the Ordinance concerning the
pressing of Watermen, &c. and the Ordinance concerning the Two Thousand Pounds of Mr. Corriton's; and
to desire their Concurrence in the Alterations and Proviso.
and with Two Ordinances; and to expedite Captain Kettleby's Petition.
2. To desire a Conference, so soon as it may stand
with their Conveniency, concerning the Ordinance for
discharging the Members of both Houses from Offices,
Military and Civil; and concerning the late Declaration
of the House of Commons, concerning Peerage; and to
desire Expedition to Captain Ketlebie's Petition.
Walsingham and Baker.
Upon reading the Petition of Sir Tho. Walsingham,
and the Petition of Sir John Baker: It is Ordered,
That they shall be heard, by their Counsel on both
Sides, this Day Fortnight, at this Bar, concerning the
Contents of their Petitions.
Sir R. Needham to deliver Guns to Bishop.
Ordered, That Sir Rob't Needham do deliver the
Guns to John Bishop, according to the Order of this
House, by Tuesday next; or else shew Cause to this House
to the contrary.
Mr. Griffith removed to The Fleet.
Ordered, Mr. Griffin shall be forthwith removed
out of the Custody of Michaell Baker to the Prison of
The Fleete, there to remain in safe Custody until the
further Pleasure of this House be signified.
Letter from Cheshire, concerning the Situation of Affairs there.
The Lord Wharton reported from the Committee of
both Kingdoms, Two Letters, which were read:
1. From the Committee of Cheshire.
The other from Lieutenant General David Lesly, concerning the Affairs of Cheshire, and drawing up their
Forces towards Chester, to take in that.
Committee to consider of the Paper from the Scots Commissioners.
Ordered, That these Lords following are appointed
to take into Consideration the Papers lately presented to
this House from the Scotts Commissioners, and report to
this House what is fit to be done thereupon:
|L. Viscount Say & Seale.
Any Three, to meet To-morrow Morning, at
Nine of the Clock.
Carter to certify what Materials about St. Paul's are useless, and what perishable.
Upon reading the Petition of Edward Carter, Surveyor of the Works for Pauls Building: It is Ordered, That the said Carter shall certify to this House,
(fn. *) what Materials about Pauls are useless for that Building, and what Materials are perishable, that so this
House may give further Directions accordingly.
Letter to the Queen of Sweden, to be translated into Latin.
Ordered, That it is referred to the Committee of
both Kingdoms, to give Directions, that the English
Letter be translated into Latin, and sent to the Queen
Answer from the H. C.
Mr. Serjeant Fynch and Doctor Heath return with this
Answer from the House of Commons:
That they agree to the Alterations in the Ordinance
concerning pressing of Watermen, &c. and the Alterations in the Ordinance (fn. *) for Two Thousand Pounds of
Mr. Corriton's: (Here enter them). And that they will
give a present Conference, as is desired; and concerning Captain Kettleby's Petition, they have taken it into
The House was adjourned during Pleasure, and the
Lords went to the Conference; which being ended, the
House was resumed.
Ordered, That the Ordinance for discharging (fn. †) the
Members from any Office, Military or Civil, shall be
printed and published.
Order for 1000l. for Sir John Meldrum.
"It is this Day Ordered, by the Lords and Commons assembled in Parliament, That the Thousand
Pounds voted to Sir John Meldrum, by the House of
Commons, in Testimony of his (fn. ‡) faithful Service,
shall be paid out of the readiest Monies that by the
Committee of Accompts is or shall be found due
from any Accomptant; the Order of both Houses of
Parliament of the 26th November last, for the Payment of the Money to the Town of Southampton, and
other Monies therein expressed, and the Order of
the 30th January last, for paying of several Arrears
due to several Owners of Shipping set forth in the
State's Service, being observed."
Order for 50l. for Captain Fleming.
"It is this Day Ordered, by the Lords and Commons assembled in Parliament, That Fifty Pounds be
forthwith advanced, and paid upon Accompt, to Adjutant Fleming, in Part of his Arrears, for his present Supply, out of Habberdashers-hall."
Order for 200l. for Windsor Garrison.
"Whereas John Towse Esquire, Alderman of the
City of London, and the rest of the Commissioners of
Excise, have, for Supply of the Garrison of Windsor,
advanced and lent the Sum of Two Hundred Pounds:
Be it therefore Ordained, by the Lords and Commons
in Parliament assembled, and by the Authority of the
same, That the said Commissioners of Excise shall
and may satisfy and reimburse themselves the said Two
Hundred Pounds, with Interest after the Rate of
Eight per Cent. for so long Time as they shall be out
of the same, or any Part thereof, out of such Intervals of Receipts as shall happen between such
Times as other Ordinances already assigned upon the
Excise shall not fall due, or, in Default of such Intervals, shall and may re-pay themselves in such Order
and Course as this Ordinance, according to its Date,
doth take Place; and shall not, by any other Order
or Ordinance of One or both Houses of Parliament,
be secluded from satisfying themselves accordingly;
and that the said Two Hundred Pounds be paid unto
Colonel John Venn, Governor of the Castle of Windsor,
whose Receipt shall be a sufficient Discharge for the
Order for 200l. for Major Carr.
"Whereas John Towse Esquire, Alderman of the
City of London, and the rest of the Commissioners of
Excise and new Impost, have advanced and lent the
Sum of Two Hundred Pounds, to be paid to Major
Carre: Be it Ordained, by the Lords and Commons
in Parliament assembled, That the said Commissioners
of Excise, their Executors or Administrators, shall
and may satisfy and reimburse themselves the said
Two Hundred Pounds, together with Interest for the
same, after the Rate of Eight Pounds per Cent. for so
long Time as the same, or any Part thereof, shall be
forborn, out of such Intervals of Receipts as shall
happen when other Payments already assigned out of
the Office of Excise shall not happen to fall due, or,
for Want of such Intervals, then as the same shall
follow in Course; and shall not, by any other Order
or Ordinance of One or both Houses of Parliament,
be debarred or secluded from satisfying themselves
accordingly; and that the said Commissioners shall
pay the said Two Hundred Pounds to the said Major
Carre, whose Receipt shall be their sufficient Discharge in that Behalf."
Order for 100l. to Captain Barkley.
"It is this Day Ordered, by the Lords and Commons assembled in Parliament, That One Hundred
Pounds be forthwith advanced and paid, upon Accompt, to Colonel Barklay, in Part of his Arrears,
for his present Supply, out of Habberdashers-hall."
Letter from the Committee at Shrewsbury, that Prince Rupert had hanged some English Prisoners, on account of their having hanged some Irish Rebels.
To the Worthily-honoured William Lenthall
Esquire, Speaker of the Honourable House
"According to the Ordinance of Parliament in that
Behalf, we caused some Irish Rebels, to the Number
of Thirteen, to be put to Death; and, since Prince
Rupert's coming into these Parts, it happened that
some of our Men were taken by some of his Commanders, and (as is verified to us), after Quarter given
them, were by the Prince's Command executed;
which we hearing of, sent a Trumpet, to know the
Truth of the Report, and the Cause why they so
suffered; by whom he returns us the Letter inclosed
for Answer. The Death of these Soldiers, being
known in our several Garrisons, hath so incensed the
Soldiery, that they vow Revenge; and we found it
difficult to prevent their violent falling upon the Prisoners in our Custody; wherefore we thought good
to certify this Honourable House thereof, and humbly
pray your Advice, how we shall prevent the acting
of the like Cruelty upon our Soldiers for the future,
"Your most humble and faithful Servants,
Salopp, this 24th of March, 1644.
Letter from Prince Rupert's Secretary, with Reasons for it.
For Mr. Sam. Moore, Mr. Mackworth, Mr. Leigh
Owen, Mr. Andrew Lloyd, Mr. Rob't Charlton, and Mr. Ro. Clive. These.
"I am, by Command, to return you this Answer:
That you gave the First Example, in hanging such
Prisoners as were taken; and thereupon the same
Number of yours suffered in like Manner; and if
you continue that Course, you cannot in Reason but
expect the like Return; but if your Intention be to
give Quarter, and to exchange Prisoners upon equal
Terms, it will not be denied. Here I rest
March 23, 1644.
Letter to be sent to Prince Rupert, about it.
"The Two Houses of Parliament have received Information, that, because the Committee at Shrewsbury
caused Thirteen Irish Rebels taken in Hostility against
the Parliament to suffer Death, according to an Ordinance of Parliament herewith sent; therefore, by
your express Command, Thirteen English Protestants,
who had Quarter given them by your Officers that
took them Prisoners, were notwithstanding murdered
upon cool Blood; and that you have resolved to proceed in the same Manner for the future; a Relation
and Resolution so strange, that the Truth thereof
might justly be suspected, were it not verified by
Letters from that Committee of the 24th of March
last to the Speaker of the House of Commons, and
by a Letter of the 23th of March sent to the same
Committee by your Direction, and subscribed by one
Ralph Goodwin your Secretary (as is informed), which
doth own and avow the Fact; and therefore the Two
Houses of Parliament, being deeply affected with
such cruel Massacres committed upon their Protestant
Brethren, whose Lives they value as their own, have
commanded me to acquaint your Highness, that 'tis
evident, by undoubted Proof, that the Rebels of Ireland (whatever they pretended to some on this Side
the Sea) did really intend by that odious Rebellion to
wrest that Kingdom for ever from the Crown of England, to the utter Disherison of the King and His
Posterity, and to extirpate the English Nation and
Protestant Religion; and for that Purpose have solicited, by their Agents, the bringing over of powerful Aids from Foreign Parts, to assist them in this
their intended Conquest; and have set up the Spanish
Colours publicly, both at Wexford and Galloway;
have caused their Captains, Officers, and others, to
make Oath before their Titular Clergy, that they
shall not suffer any English or Protestants to live in
that Kingdom; that they prosecuted this horrid
Design by murdering, hanging, drowning, burning
alive, and starving, within few Months, in One Province, One Hundred and Fifty-four Thousand of harmless Brittish Protestants, Men, Women, and Children,
without Distinction of Age or Sex, without any Provocation given, but living securely by them, in a
full and settled Peace; that the King, first, by Proclamation attested by His own Royal Signature, and
Privy Signet, hath proclaimed them Traitors and
Rebels; and, since that Time, both Kingdom and Parliament, by Four several Acts of Parliament, have
declared and styled them in the same Manner; and
further His Majesty, by Act of Parliament, hath
consented that all Pardons granted to them, or any
of them, before Attainder, shall be void: Now that
such bloody barbarous Miscreants, so odious both to
God and Men, so obnoxious to Law and Justice (even
by the Judgement of both Sides), coming out of Ireland (where they neither did give nor receive Quarter), to burn and lay waste this Kingdom, as they
have done, that should after all this be admitted to
receive Quarter here, and consequently be made
equal in Exchange with the English Nation and Protestants, the Lords and Commons of the Parliament
of England cannot, with Religion, Honour, or Justice, in any Sort consent unto it; and have commanded me to let your Highness and all other Commanders
on that Side know, that if hereafter, upon executing
the Irish Rebels in Pursuance of that just Ordinance,
any unjust Pretext shall be made, to murder in cool
Blood any Officer, Soldier, or Seaman, in the Service of the Parliament, that the Two Houses have
Resolved, and do hereby Declare, That, for every
Officer, Soldier, and Seaman, so causelessly massacred, they shall and must (though with deep Sorrow
and Reluctancy) cause so many of the Prisoners remaining in their Power to be put to Death in the
same Manner; and therefore do earnestly desire your
Highness, and all other your inferior Commanders, to
forbear by such prodigious Cruelty to imbase the
Value of the English Nation, which, they are consident, will be resented with Indignation, even by those
English Protestants who are for the present deceived
into Arms against the Protestant Religion and the Parliament of England; to whom they shall be ready to
allow Quarter and equal Exchange as before, and
for whom they dayly pray that Almighty God would
open their Eyes, and reduce them into the right
Way. Sir, this being all I have in Command, I take
my Leave, and remain,
4 April. 1645.
Lords desire the Continuance of the Commissioners of the Great Seal; and that the Revenue, Admiralty, &c. may be managed by Committees of both Houses.
"The Lords having passed the Ordinance sent up by
you, for discharging the Members of both Houses
from all Offices, both Military and Civil, without
any Addition or Alteration, to prevent Delays: This
Ordinance being passed, the Lords think it fit to
propound, that those Places in the Kingdom which
usually the Nobility heretofore have been intrusted
with, as the Great Seal, that of the Revenue, and the
Admiralty and Navy, being now managed by Committees, those Committees may consist of Members
of both Houses, as the Power they exercise is derived from both: To this End, they desire that the
Great Seal may be continued in the Hands of those
Lords and Commons who are now intrusted with it;
that a proportionable Number of Lords may be added
to the Committee for the Revenue; that the Admiralty and Navy may be settled in a Committee of
Lords and Commons chosen for that Purpose; and
lastly, that this may be done by Ordinance of Parliament, such Ordinance to continue for Six Months."
and that the Earl of Manchester's Power for regulating the University of Cambridge, &c. shall continue.
"The Lords are of Opinion, that the Ordinance for
discharging the Members of both Houses from all
Offices, both Military and Civil, or any Thing therein
contained, doth not lessen or take away the Powers
granted to the Earl of Manchester by the Ordinance
of the 22th of January, 1642, intituled, "An Ordinance for regulating the University of Cambridge,
and for removing of scandalous Ministers in the Seven
Lords Answer to the Declaration of the H. C. for preserving the Peerage.
"The Lords, taking into Consideration the seasonable and acceptable Declaration which the House of
Commons lately made, with Respect unto the Peers,
have thought fit to let you know, that, notwithstanding some Discourses that pass frequently about this
Town, they could never suspect that the House of
Commons, composed of so many Gentlemen of ancient Families, would do any Act to prejudice the
Nobility of England; so as, upon the Assurance
which you have given them by this Declaration, they
do rest fully satisfied of the House of Commons real
Intentions to maintain the Rights, Privileges, and
Honour, belonging to the Places and Persons of the
Peers; which doth not only encourage them chearfully to join with you, in hazarding their Lives and
Fortunes for the carrying on of this Common Cause,
wherein both Houses and the whole Kingdom are now
so deeply engaged; but will, by the Blessing of
God, prove the most effectual and certain Means so
firmly to unite the Houses, and settle so perfect an
Understanding between them, as shall frustrate the
Endeavours of all those who seek to misinform,
asperse, or divide the Houses, and may probably
soonest deliver the Kingdom from the Miseries which
they suffer by this unnatural War; and the Lords do
desire the House of Commons to be assured, that they
will be as tender of any Thing that concerns the
House of Commons, as they can be of their own
Honour and just Rights."
Ordinance for pressing Watermen, &c.
"It is this Day Ordained and Declared, by the
Lords and Commons assembled in Parliament, That
the respective Committees of the Militia of London
and Midd. and of the neighbouring Counties, and
their Sub-committees, shall have Power, and are
hereby required and authorized, to enter into any
House or Place where they suspect any Person or
Persons fit to be imprested for the present Service are
hid or harboured, and to imprest every such Person
and Persons, according to the Limitations of the
Ordinances for impresting of Men: And further,
the said Lords and Commons do hereby likewise Ordain and Declare, That the Eight Rulers of the
Watermen, or any Two of them, shall have Power,
and are hereby also authorized and required, to imprest so many Watermen and Barges as shall be by
the said several Committees and their Sub-committees
thought necessary, for conveying and carrying such
Soldiers as shall be imprested for the present Service
from London to Maydenhead; allowing to every such
Waterman or Bargeman as shall be so imprested, and
employed in this Service, the Sum of Five Shillings,
for his Voyage or Freight from London to Maydenhead,
and back again: Provided always, That neither this
Ordinance, nor any Thing therein contained, shall
extend to the entering into any House, or other
Place, in the Possession of any Peer of this Realm,
or any Member, Assistant, or Attendant, of or on
either House of Parliament; any Thing herein contained to the contrary in any Wise notwithstanding."
Ordinance for seizing Monies of Mr. Coryton's, coming to him in Right of his Wise, on the Death of her Father Mr. Mills.
"Whereas it appeareth, that John Coryton of Newton, in the Parish of St. Melwin, in the County of
Cornwall, Gentleman, is actually in Arms against the
Parliament, and hath lately married Elizabeth Milles,
the sole and only Daughter of John Milles; and
whereas the said John Milles, by his last Will and
Testament, amongst other Things, bequeathed unto
John Young and Thomas Young the Sum of Two Thousand Pounds, in Trust, to and for the Use of the
said Elizabeth, now the Wife of the said John
Coryton, to be paid unto her when she should accomplish the Age of Sixteen Years; and, in case she
should happen to die before she should accomplish the
said Age of Sixteen Years, that then the said Two
Thousand Pounds should remain to other Uses mentioned in the said Will, as in the same appeareth;
and several other Sums of Money being likewise due
and owing to the said John Coryton, in the Right of
his said Wife, and now in the Hands of the said
John Young and Thomas Young: It is this Day Ordered and Ordained, by the Lords and Commons assembled in Parliament, That the Committee of Lords
and Commons for the Preservation and Safety of the
associated Western Counties, by themselves or their
Agents or Deputies, shall have Power, and are hereby authorized, to take and seize into their Hands and
Custodies the said Two Thousand Pounds, and other
Sums of Money, to and for the necessary Use and
Service of the West, to be paid, when the same shall
become due and payable, unto the said John Coriton;
and the said John Young and Thomas Young are hereby
required and authorized to pay the same accordingly;
and in so doing, they shall be protected, and saved
harmless, and kept indemnified, by the Authority and
Power of both Houses of Parliament: And it is
further Ordered and Ordained, That if the said
John Young and Thomas Young shall refuse or neglect
to pay the same unto the said Committee, their Agents
or Deputies, as aforesaid (the same being demanded),
that then the said Committee shall have Power, and
are hereby authorized, to commit such Person unto
Prison, until such Person shall have satisfied the same;
and also the said Committee, their Agents and Deputies, upon Receipt and Payment of the said Two
Thousand Pounds, and other Sums of Monies, or any
Part thereof, shall give Discharges and Acquittances
for the same; which said Acquittances shall be a sufficient Warrant and Discharge for the said John Young
and Thomas Young, against the said John Coryton, and
his said Wife, and all others whatsoever.
House adjourned till 9a cras.