DIE Mercurii, 15 die Octobris.
PRAYERS, by Dr. Gouge.
Ds. Grey de Warke, Speaker.
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Extent to be taken off the Dowager Ly. Delawar's Estate.
Upon the Petition of the Right Honourable Isabella
Baroness Dowager D'lawarr: shewing,
"That an Extent hath been served upon her Estate,
contrary to the Privileges of Parliament."
It is hereby Ordered, by the Lords in Parliament,
That the said Lady D'lawarr shall enjoy her Privilege due unto Persons of her Quality; and that all
Extents and Molestations of her Goods or Lands, contrary to her Privilege of Parliament, due unto Peers
of this Realm, for any Civil Action, shall be taken
off; and hereof all Sheriffs, Bailiffs, Attornies, and
Solicitors, are to take Notice, and give Obedience thereunto, as they will answer the contrary to this House.
Wyndis freed from an Arrest.
Upon reading the Petition of Samuell Wyndis, now a
Prisoner in Ludgate; (fn. *) shewing,
"That he being arrested, at the Suit of Rob't Holt,
of London, Merchant, having been in the Service
of the State under the Command of the Earl of
Manchester, and hath due unto him more Money
for his Arrears than this Debt is for which he is now
arrested."
Hereupon it is Ordered, That the said Samuell
Wyndis shall be protected, and released from his present Imprisonment concerning this Debt, provided it
exceeds not the Debt which the State owes him.
The Lord Robertes reported from the Committee of
both Kingdoms divers Papers; which were read, as
follow. (Here enter them.)
"Die Martis, 14 Octobris, 1645.
"At the Committee of both Kingdoms at Derby
House.
Papers from the Committee of both Kingdoms.
"Ordered, That the Letter from the Committee
of both Kingdoms from Berwicke, with the inclosed
from the Lord Digby to the Earls of Leven and
Calender; and the Earl of Leven's Answer; as
also a Paper sent from Nottingham, and the Extract
of a Report of a Scout to Colonel Doyly, be all reported to both Houses.
"The Lord Digbie's Letter.
Letter from L. Digby to the Earls of Leven and Calendar, for an Answer to a former One, containing Propositions from the King.
"For the Right Honourable the Earls of Leven
General, and Kalender Lieutenant General, of
the Scotch Forces now in England.
"My Lords,
"Having formerly written unto your Lordships, by
His Majesty's Command, upon a Subject highly importing the Peace and Happiness of all His Majesty's Dominions, I am again commanded to tell your
Lordships, that, in Confidence of the good Effects
thereof, His Majesty is, through many Difficulties,
advanced hither to Newarke, with a considerable Body
of Horse; and doth earnestly desire that He may
receive with Expedition an Answer to what was then
proposed by,
Newarke this 4th of October, 1645.
"My Lords,
"Your Lordships
"Most humble Servant,
"George Digbye."
E. of Leven's Answer to the King's General.
"For the Cheife Comander of the Forces now
with His Majesty.
"My Lord,
"I receved here, upon the 8th Instant, a Letter
from the Lord Digby, bearing Date from Newarke,
the 4th of October, a Copy whereof is here inclosed,
relateing to One formerly sent by him by His Majesty's Comand, upon a Subject highly importing
the Peace and Happinesse of all His Dominions:
To which Letter I can returne no Answere, having
never receved it. But had it come to my Hands, or
any Motion of that Nature, I should, as I have done
with this, addressed them to the Parliaments of
both Kingdomes, or their Comissioners, as only capeable of receving and answering such Propositions.
I am,
Barwicke, this 9th of October, 1645.
"My Lord,
Your Lordship's humble Servant,
"Leven."
Letter from the Committee of both Kingdoms in Scotland, concerning the preceding ones.
"For the Right Honourable the Committee of
both Kingdoms, sitting at Derby House.
"My Lords and Gentlemen,
"A Trumpet came from Newarke, with this inclosed Letter, directed to the General and Lieutenant General of the Scotts Army. It was opened at
Northallerton, by the General of the Artillery, who
commands there in Chief. He sealed it again, and
sent the Trumpet with a Servant of his own hither
to the General; who, hearing what it was, would
not open it until he sent for the Marquis of Argyll,
the Earls of Lauderdaill and Lanericke: They immediately brought it to the Commissioners of the
Parliament of England; and all of us resolved to send
it to your Lordships, to be by you communicated
to both Houses of Parliament: The General protests he never saw any other Letter, which this seems
to import; nor any from the Enemy, except that
which he sent to London from Ledburie; and hath
returned this Answer, which you will receive here inclosed, from,
"My Lords,
"Your Lordships
"Affectionate Friends and Servants,
"Argyll.
"Lauderdaill.
"Lannericke.
"Tho. Hatcher.
P. Wharton.
W. Armyne.
H. Vane.
Rob't Goodwin.
Reports concerning the E. of Leven being in Treaty with the King.
"George Higgins, of Eakrin, informeth, from Mr.
Hawden, of Tuxford, in the County of Nottingham,
Minister, and by his Order and Direction, That a
Trumpet belonging to Colonel Eyre of Newarke,
passing through Tuxford, on Sunday the Fifth of this
Instant October, did, in the Presence of the said Mr.
Hawden, say and affirm, That he was going with
Letters from His Majesty, and from Sir Richard
Willys Governor of Newarke, to General Leven, with
Hope to bring him back with his Army to Newarke
for the King, with as much Joy as ever he did come
for the Parliament; and Mr. Hawden did see Two
Letters in the Hand of the Trumpeter; and Two
Scotch Gentlemen, being at Tuxford with the said Mr.
Hawden the same Day, did affirm to them, that the
King and General Leven had been long in Treaty;
and they did not doubt but that it was effected; and
that this Letter would bring them back.
"Taken at Nottingham, in the Presence of us,
6 October, 1645.
"Francis Thornhaugh Vic.
"Charles White.
October 9, 1645.
He that came from Oxford saith, That, on Wednesday at Night very late, came in a Messenger from the
King; and doth report, That all the Forces of the
Scotts which were about Hereford are agreed to come
to the King; and that they are in as much Joy for
that, as for the coming of the new Governor.
"Vera Copia.
"Gualter Frost."
Message to the H. C. with these Papers.
Ordered, That all these aforesaid Papers shall be
communicated presently to the House of Commons, by
Message.
And accordingly Sir Edward Leech and Mr. Page
were sent with them.
Report of the Conference concerning the E. of Stamford, why Polton, One of the Persons impeached with him, should not be admitted as an Evidence for him.
The Lord Robertes reported the Effect of the
Conference Yesterday with the House of Commons, being concerning several Particulars, and
managed by several Members of that House :
"First, by Mr. Lisle, who was commanded by the
House of Commons to acquaint their Lordships with
a Vote passed by that House, which he read, as
follows:
"Resolved, &c. That Henry Poulton, One of the
Earl of Stamford's Footmen, ought not to
be admitted as a Witness, in the Cause concerning the Earl of Stamford and Sir Arthur
Hasilrigge.
"This Vote was made upon a Report to that House,
That Henry Poulton and Mathew Patshall being impeached for Breach of Privilege of that House, and
Three Witnesses produced, who did express that One
of the Two Footmen did throw a Stone, and did
strike Sir Arthur Hasilrigg, and One of the Witnesses
did affirm it was the eldest Footman.
"After this, the Counsel at the Bar moved that
Polton should be examined as a Witness; and Polton
was ordered by their Lordships to be examined de
bene esse.
"This being the Fact; the Two Footmen impeached
with the Earl, and Three Witnesses, saying that
Polton or the other did throw a Stone; and One of
the Witnesses saying it was Polton; upon this, the
House of Commons made this Resolution, upon this
Ground:
"1. Drawn from the Impeachment itself, which
he offered by Way of Inquiry, whether it be
One of the Parties impeached, upon
the Desire of the Counsel of the Defendants,
should be examined as a Witness. If this were
never known, he thought it was considerable.
"2. Upon the Examination taken, if (fn. *) it were
upon an Indictment at Common Law, and
Three Witnesses affirm that either Polton or
the other did strike the other, in no Court
they would examine both. So in this Case,
Mathew Patshall might rather be examined
than Polton; and if in no Court this would
be admitted, then he hopes their Lordships
will not do it.
"3. No Court will (fn. †) examine a Party as a Witness, if there be any Probability or Presumption against him; and they hope this House
will not.
"This he offers to their Lordships Consideration;
and desires their Concurrence in the said
Vote.
"The next that spoke at the Conference was Mr.
Serjeant Wylde; who said, He would add little, because Mr. Lysle had so fully spoken. He said, That
the Three Witnesses were Major Bridges, Captain
Titus, and Good: All these agreed that my
Lord of Stamford had Two Footmen, and that One
did throw a Stone: Major Bridges said, He did believe it was the bigger Footman. And their Lordships having proceeded no further, because it was
then late; in the Afternoon, being further proceeded
in, it was desired that Polton might be examined as
a Witness for the Earl of Stamford; it being alledged there was no Evidence against him: And upon
this, Major Bridges was again brought forth, who
said, He did believe in his Conscience it was Polton.
If this be the, but this strikes a strong
Presumption; but whether to convict him, they leave
it to their Lordships: They conceive it concerns
the Commonwealth so highly, and the House of
Commons, as that therefore they press it.
"Next, Mr. Samuell Browne said, If the Case be
agreed, they shall easily see the Law : Here is an
Impeachment against the Earl of Stamford and Two
others. Their Lordships have heard both. Upon
this Impeachment by the House of Commons against
the said Earl and his Servants, Three Witnesses were
sworn. One of the Two did verily believe it was
this Henry Polton, who, they conceive, may not be a
fit Witness for the Earl of Stamford, because he
might swear for himself; and the Rule of the Law
is, That no Man is to give his Testimony upon Oath
in any Cause whereby any Thing may accrue to
himself. Here is an Impeachment against all Three;
and a probable Evidence against Polton, who, if he
be admitted, may swear not only to acquit his Lord,
but himself: It rests in Judgement before their Lordships, whether (fn. ‡)
And about Letters from the North.
"The Second Part of this Conference was delivered by Mr. Pury, who said, The House of Commons
have received Letters from the North, and have
(fn. ||) made divers Resolutions thereupon. He read Two
Letters, as followeth:
Letter from the Committee in Yorkshire, desiring an immediate Supply of Money for their Horse.
"SIR,
"To appease a dangerous Mutiny, at the Time
when the King with His Forces advanced into this
County, and sent out Proclamations that all from
Sixteen to Threescore should come unto Him, for
guarding His Person to this City; and for encouraging our Horse, both Officers and Troopers; we promised them a Month's Pay, which was the least of
their Demand. We have, with much Labour, and
by Engagement of our particular Credits, advanced
a Fortnight's Pay unto the Troopers; but (fn. *) it is impossible for us to pay the rest unto them out of these
Parts, which are so impoverished; and the whole
North Riding is now not only taken up in Quarters,
but also exceedingly assessed in Money by the Scotts,
so that we cannot raise sufficient for the growing
Pay of the Foot. The Horse do again begin to
make high and peremptory Demands of their Fortnight's Pay in Arrear; which, if not speedily paid,
we fear, will occasion as high, if not a higher Mutiny than the former. We hear from London, that
the Ten Thousand Pounds is already taken up by
the Horse Officers, and for Discharge of other Debts
and Engagements; so that there is no other Way
left for keeping our Horse together upon Service,
than a present Order to be given by the Parliament
for advancing that Sum, which will amount unto
Three Thousand Pounds, or thereabouts. We earnestly intreat you to acquaint the House herewith,
on whose Favour we rely, hoping a speedy Course
will (fn. *) be directed by them for making Supply hereof; otherwise we cannot be able long to do them
Service in these Parts. We remain
York, the 4th of October, 1645.
"Your Lordships humble Servants,
"Ja. Bellingham.
"Francis Pierrepont.
"Will'm Lister.
"Wm. Alanson.
"Jo. Wastell.
"For the Honourable Wm. Lenthall Esquire,
Speaker of the House of Commons at Westm.
Another Letter from them, complaining of the heavy Imposition laid on the County by the Scots Army.
"SIR,
"It hath been often represented from this County,
that the intolerable Burthens of Armies, English and
Scotts, hath reduced great Numbers of Families to
the Extremities of Poverty; for Redress whereof,
earnest Request hath been made from the Committees, in the Behalf of the Inhabitants of the Country,
who, having lately received some Relaxation of their
Sufferings, by the Removal of the Scotts Army Southwards, and the reducing of sundry of the Enemies
Garrisons, were beginning to settle themselves to some
Industries to support themselves withall, wherein
they were not a little encouraged by the Ordinance
of Parliament, appointing the Charge of the Scotts
Army to be indifferently supported by a general Assessment laid upon the Kingdom, whereof they were
only to bear a proportionable Share.
"But now, as soon as their Harvest is reaped, and
Propositions made by every Family for their proper
Sustenance for this Year following, the Scotts Army
is unexpectedly returned into these Parts again;
and albeit we, the Committees of the several Ridings,
have made known unto them, that we neither have
Authority to impose any such Burthen upon the
County; and if we had such Power, yet that we know
the Country unable to bear them without the universal Ruin of the Inhabitants; nevertheless the Commanders of the said Army have of themselves taken up
their Quarters in the North Ridinge, and spread their
Charge, and send out their Warrants, in other Parts
of the Country, requiring from the People such vast
Sums of Money, and Proportions of Provisions, as
have not been heard of in other Parts of this Kingdom, which nevertheless they force the People to
bring in to them.
"These Impositions thus laid by them upon the
Country, as we understand by daily Complaints
brought to us from several Places, are in most Parts
of the Country after the Rate of One Hundred Fortyfour Thousand Four Hundred Sixty-eight Pounds per
Mensem, being distributed in the same Measure
through the whole Country, and in some other Parts
not so much; but in no Place that we have yet heard
of less than after the Rate of Forty-five Thousand
Pounds per Mensem; and all this taken under Pretence
of Order from their superior Officers, besides the infinite Oppressions and Extortions of the Officers and
Soldiers, who take away the Subjects Horses, Goods,
and Money, without any Public Order, which we
conceive may equal the Proportion of their certain
Assessments.
"These insupportable Burthens must of Necessity introduce an universal Poverty and Desolation of the
Country, and so prepare the Dispositions of the People
to desperate Associations and Resolutions to rise in
Opposition; which how destructive it may prove to
the present Union of the Nations, we leave to your
Considerations.
"And we may not omit herewith to represent unto
you, as a Matter conducing to the same End, that
the Ways to raise Money in this County, for the Pay
of our own Army, being wholly obstructed by those
Levies of the Scotts, that take up the whole Substance
of the Country, it will be impossible to contain our
own Soldiers, who were mutinous before; but that
now their Distempers will be much increased, and,
being united to an oppressed People, may give a
more speedy Vent to the Heart-burnings and Discontents contracted by these Sufferings which visibly
tend to our utter Confusion of this County.
"SIR,
"Whatsoever our succeeding Miseries may be, yet
we conceive we have now fully discharged our Duties, in making this Remonstrance of our Sufferings
to that Honourable House, which is the only Place
under Heaven from whence we can hope for Relief;
and our Request is, in order to the Prevention of
the Dangers imminent, that the Scottish Army may
be immediately removed from these Parts, and some
Course taken for Reparation of the Country's Sufferings, by the other Parts of the Kingdom liable to
the Burthen of that Army; which we humbly desire
may be immediately presented by you to the House,
from
Your most affectionate humble Servants,
Yorke, 3 October, 1645.
"Math. Boynton.
"Rich'd Darley.
"Jo. Bourcheir.
"Ro. Barwick.
"Rob't Legard.
"Jo. Wastall.
"Tho. Stockdale.
"Jo. Farrer.
"Tho. Dickinson.
"Tho. Chaloner.
"Tho. St. Nicholas.
"Jo. Clayton.
"Wm. Armytage.
"J. Anlaby.
"Ri. Robinson.
"Wm. Allanson.
"James Chaloner.
"John Shillington.
"Ra. Wymore.
"Jo. Bright.
"Chr. Ridley.
"Ric. Darley.
"For our Honourable Friend Wm. Lenthall
Esquire, Speaker of the House of Commons,
at Westm.
"There was also delivered Three Papers, which were
delivered from the Scotts Commissioners, and sent
down to the House of Commons from this House,
One of 29 Sept. 1645, another of 30 Sept. and another of the 9 October, 1645; upon which they have
made Votes.
Votes brought up from the H. C. at this Conference: Concerning the Proceedings of the Scots Army;
"Next, these Votes were read, following:
"Resolved, upon the Question,
"That this House doth Declare, That, as they are
bound by the Covenant and Treaties to maintain the
Union and good Correspondence between the Two
Kingdoms, so is their Resolution to employ and continue their utmost Endeavours to maintain the same
accordingly.
"Resolved, &c. That the Scotch Army not engaging
against the Enemy according to the Desires of both
Houses of Parliament, and their Continuance in the
Northern Parts contrary to those Desires, is not only
unserviceable, but prejudicial to those Ends for which
their Assistance was desired, and destructive to those
Parts of the Kingdom.
"Resolved, &c. That their laying of Taxes, and
raising of Monies upon the Subjects of this Kingdom,
and plundering their Horses and Goods, is against the
Treaty, and against the Liberty of the Subjects, which
both Kingdoms are bound to preserve; and doth
disable the Kingdom to pay the Monthly Assessments
for the Maintenance of that Army, and the Forces
of the Northern Association.
for the Inhabitants of the Northern Counties not to pay Taxes, except levied by Order of Parliament;
"Resolved, &c. That it be declared to the Inhabitants of the Northern Association, that they are not
bound to pay any such Monies as are or shall be
taxed upon them, without the Power or Authority
of both Houses of Parliament, by the Scotts Officers,
or any other Person.
that such as have been levied by the Scots Army shall be deducted out of their Pay;
"Resolved, &c. That whatsoever Monies, Goods,
Horses, or Provisions, have or shall be taken from
any the Inhabitants of the Northern Association, or
of any other Parts of this Kingdom, without the
Power and Authority of both Houses of Parliament,
by any of the Scotts Army, shall be re-paid unto
them, out of the Monies designed for the Maintenance of that Army.
"Resolved, &c. That such Commissions shall be
issued under the Great Seal, into every County of
this Kingdom where they shall be desired, for the
certifying what Money, Billet, Horses, Cattle, Goods,
or Provisions, have been levied or taken, by any of
the Scotts Army, with like Powers and Authorities
as are contained in Commissions already issued in that
Behalf into divers of the Northern Counties.
"Resolved, &c. That whatsoever Money, Horses,
Goods, or Provisions, have been, or shall be, levied
or taken by the Scotts Army, upon the Inhabitants
or Subjects of the Kingdom of England, shall be
accounted as so much of the Pay of the Scotts Army;
and that this Kingdom is disengaged for the Payment
of so much as the same upon Proof shall amount
unto.
"Resolved, &c. That in case the Pressures of the
Scotts Army upon the Subjects of this Kingdom be
continued, and unless Satisfaction shall be given
touching the Premises, it cannot be expected that this
Kingdom shall make Payment of Thirty-one Thousand Pounds per Month to the said Army.
for the Scots to withdraw their Garrisons from Newcastle, Carlisle, &c.
"Resolved, &c. That it be desired, that Satisfaction
may be given to this Kingdom, that such Forces of
the Scottish Nation, as have been put into the several
Garrisons of Newcastle upon Tyne, the City of Carlisle, and Town of Hartpoole, the Castles of Tynemouth, Warkeworth, Thirlwall, and Stockton, without
the Consent of both Houses of Parliament, may be
forthwith removed; to the End the same may be
disposed of in such Manner as shall be thought fitting by both Houses of the Parliament of England.
"Resolved, &c. That the Letters from the Committees of Yorke, of the 3d and 4th of this Instant October, with the Votes thereupon, be communicated to
the Lords, at a Conference.
about the 30,000l. a Month for the Scots Army;
"Resolved, &c. That the Votes formerly passed the
House, for removing the Obstructions that happen
in bringing in the Assessments for the Scottish Army,
and for the providing of Thirty Thousand Pounds
for that Army upon their coming to Newarke, be
communicated to the Lords, at this Conference.
about Propositions for Peace;
"Resolved, &c. That the House do sit in a Grand
Committee every Tuesday and Thursday, immediately
after Prayers, to take into Consideration the Matter
of Propositions for a safe and well-grounded Peace;
and that this Committee do begin first to sit Tomorrow, after Prayers.
concerning Church Government;
"Resolved, &c. That Wednesday next be appointed,
between the Hours of Ten and Twelve, for reading
the Ordinance the Third Time, concerning Church
Government; and that the Members be enjoined all
to attend.
that the City will advance 30,000l. to the Scots, on Conditions;
"Mr. Longe reported from the City, That they
would endeavour, and were in good Hopes to effect, the providing of Thirty Thousand Pounds for
the Scottish Army, in case they shall be before Newarke by the First of November; otherwise not.
"He further read these Votes following:
that the Scots Commissioners Answer about their Army marching to Newark is not satisfactory;
"Resolved, &c. That the Scotts Answer, touching
the marching of their Army to besiege Newarke, is
not satisfactory.
"Resolved, &c. That the Scotts Commissioners be
desired to give a positive and speedy Answer, touching
their Army's marching to besiege Newarke.
for 30,000l. to be borrowed of the City for them;
"Resolved, &c. That some Gentlemen be sent into
the City of London, to borrow Thirty Thousand
Pounds, towards Pay of the Scotch Army; and that
the Assessments due and payable out of the several
Counties for that Army shall be the Security for
Re-payment of the said Money, together with Interest for Forbearance thereof.
"Resolved, &c. That Thursday next be assigned to
the Committee of Gouldsmithes Hall, to report to
this Committee the Obstructions concerning the not
coming in of the Assessments for Payment of the
Scotts Army.
for Ammunition to be provided for them;
"Resolved, &c. That Two Hundred Barrels of
Powder, with Bullet proportionable, and a double
Proportion of Match, be forthwith provided and
furnished for the Scotch Army, in case (fn. *) they shall
be before Newarke by the First of November next.
"That, upon the Report of the Committee, that
the House of Commons sent to Gouldsmithes Hall, to
know the Obstructions of the coming in of the Assessments for the Scotch Army, the House of Commons
made these Resolutions:
for the Committee at Goldsmiths Hall to bring in the Assessments for them;
"Resolved, &c. That the Committee of Goldsmithes Hall do forthwith put in Execution all such
Powers and Authorities that is given unto them, for
the effectual bringing in of the Assessments, for the
Payment of the Scotts Army; and that, if any Committee or Member thereof, or other Officer employed
by them, do obstruct the speedy bringing in of the
said Monies, that they do send for him or them, and
require an Account of them, according to the Power
given them; and that if they shall be informed of
any Member of this House, that is the Cause of either
diverting or obstructing the coming in of the said
Assessments, that they do certify the Name of such
Member or Members to the House, to be proceeded with as the House shall think fit: And whereas the Power given to that Committee is of Force
only as to the Assessments for the First Four Months
for the Scottch Army; it is Ordered, That the
same Powers, in every Clause and Article thereof,
shall be of Force, and applied to the effectual and
speedy bringing in of the last Four Months Assessments; and also for the bringing in the Arrears
upon the Ordinance for the Loan of Two Hundred
Thousand Pounds for the Scotts Advance into this
Kingdom.
Arms and Ammunition formerly sent them;
"By the same Report from the Committee at Gouldsmithes Hall, it appears; that,
"One Thousand Backs, Breasts, and Pots,
"One Thousand Pair of Pistols with Holsters,
"Seven Thousand Muskets,
"Seven Thousand Bandileers,
"Three Hundred Barrels of Powder,
"Ten Tons of Match,
"Ten Tons of Bullet,
"Were sent by that Committee to the Scotts Army,
"when they marched from Newcastle Southward.
and that these Votes be digested into Form, for an Answer to the Scots Commissioners.
"Then he read another Vote; videlicet,
"Resolved, &c. That these Letters from the North,
and these Votes, be communicated to the Lords, at
a Conference; and the Lords desired, in case they
shall assent unto them, that a Committee of Lords
and Commons may be appointed to digest them into Form, to be an Answer to the Papers from the
Scotch Commissioners.
"Next, Mr. Blackston said, That there were some
Letters, which came this Morning; which he was
commanded to impart to their Lordships at this Conference:
"1. Was read a Letter from the Committee at Yorke,
to the Speaker of the House of Commons: videlicet,
Letter from the Committee in Yorkshire, with a further Complaint of the Oppressions and Exactions of the Scots Army in the Northern Counties.
"For our Honourable Friend Wm. Lenthall
Esquire, Speaker of the House of Commons in Parliament.
"Mr. Speaker,
"This is the Third Address which we have made to
you, being occasioned by further and new Complaints
since our last, containing the deplorable and now almost ruined Estate of this County, by reason of the
Scottish Army quartered upon us.
"We are most unwilling to be troublesome unto you
where we can possibly avoid it; and therefore we
pray you to peruse this inclosed Copy of our Letter
to General Leven, which will not only satisfy you in
the Particular of our Grievances, but that we omit
no lawful Ways we can think on for our own Preservation. The Copy of his Answer unto us is also
herewith sent you, of whom we must needs give
this honourable Testimony, that, if the inferior Officers of his Army had been as careful to maintain
the good Correspondency between these Kingdoms as
his Excellency hath been, we verily believe that we
should not have had any Occasion of making these
Complaints: But we persuade ourselves that his
Commands are not observed, because our Sufferings
increase daily with his Absence, so as, without present Ease, we cannot expect any Thing but sudden
Ruin; for they demean themselves, not as if they
came only for their Subsistence, but as if purposely
to destroy us. We nothing doubt of the Parliament's equal Care of us as of other Parts of this
Kingdom; and our Fidelity to the Cause assures us,
that we have not merited to be designed out to Destruction, nor that we only should mourn at this present, when all England, by God's Mercies, hath such
Occasion to rejoice. Our Necessities therefore imbolden us to be thus importunate for our present
Relief, being not otherwise able to appease the Cries
and Tears of such a Multitude of miserable People,
who daily flock unto us for Redress. And it being
the greatest Part of our Grief in that we are not
able to help them, we humbly desire your present
and speedy Assistance, who desire with their uttermost
Endeavours to approve themselves
"Your humble Servants,
"Tho. Stockdale.
Jo. Bright. Chr. Legart. Rich. Darley.
Ja. Chaloner. Jo. Wastell. Jo. Bourchier.
Jo. Farrer. Tho. Chalone. Ar. Ingram.
Chr. Percehay. Jo. Savile.
Ro. Barwicke.
Ric. Darley. Darcy Wentworth.
W. Armitage."
Letter from them to the E. of Leven, on the same Subject.
"May it please your Excellency,
"If the Cries and Lamentations of so many distressed
and miserable People, who sadly apprehend their sudden Ruin and Confusion by the Demeanor of your
Army now quartered upon them, were as fully represented to your Excellency as they are to ourselves,
we should not need to make this Address unto you;
for, as we have been ever confident of your real
Affection, both unto this great Cause now in Hand,
as also to our Nation, so, where the one or the
other may unjustly suffer, through the Silence of
such as, being over-awed by the Power of your inferior Officers, dare not make their Sufferings known
unto your Excellency, we cannot, in Discharge of
the Duty which we owe unto the Parliament of England, which hath intrusted us with the Care of this
County, nor the National Covenant which we have
made with Almighty God, whereby we have sworn
with all Faithfulness to endeavour the Discovery of
all such as have or shall be Incendiaries, or ill Instruments, in dividing of these Kingdoms one from
another, unless we do in some Measure represent
unto your Excellency the Discontents of our People,
that, by the Amendment thereof, this County committed to our Charge may be preserved from Ruin,
and our National Covenant maintained inviolable.
"The Complaints of the People are these:
"That your Army doth not only take Free Quarter,
contrary to your Excellency's Order as we are informed, but lays upon the County what Assessments
they please; insomuch as some small Village, which,
by the Assessments of Parliament, is to pay but Five
Shillings and Four Pence the Month, is required by
your Officers to pay Thirty-three Shillings and Four
Pence a Day; that some Towns have whole Regiments quartered upon them, and Seven Pounds a Day
besides exacted for Assessments.
"That whereas, by the Ordinance of Parliament,
the whole County is to pay but Seven Thousand
Pounds a Month for Assessments; if the whole
County were assessed proportionably as some One
Wapentake is by your Officers, it would amount
unto One Hundred Forty-four Thousand Four
Hundred Sixty-eight Pounds the Month.
"That the Officers of your Army take up Free
Quarter and Billet-money, to the Proportion of (fn. *) Three
Times the Number of your Army; having spread
themselves from Whitby in the East, beyond Richmond in the West; and from The Tease Northward,
almost to the City of Yorke.
"That the Private Soldiers is not contented with
such honest Fare as the Countryman feeds himself
withall, his Wife and Children.
"That, having fed their Horses with Hay and Oats,
they make Spoil and Havoc of the rest.
"That they permit not the Sequestrators to do their
Duty, nor the Wapentake Courts or Court Leets to
be kept, whereby the Civil Power is over-thrown.
"That your Army, quartering where it can give this
County no Assistance against the Enemy, and depriving
it by anticipating the Means whereby to maintain
their Army in assisting of itself, leaves it thereby
open to certain Ruin and Destruction.
"They take away their Horses and Cattle at their
Pleasure, and imprison them for resusing to pay Assessments.
"They will not permit our Soldiers to enjoy their
Quarters allotted them by their Officers.
"And, to make their Actions to appear more justifiable, they enforce them, by Threatenings and otherwise, to give under their Hands (notwithstanding their
hard Usage) a Certificate unto your Excellency of
their good Behaviour.
"We affect not to insist upon a particular Man;
neither would we have dealt so plainly with your
Excellency, had we not vehemently desired the mutual Amity and Correspondency of both Nations
might be continued, and that, the Sore being opened
and thoroughly searched, the Wound thereby might
the better be cured.
"We pray your Excellency, upon the like Occasions, to be plain and free with us; and that you will
seriously consider and examine the Premises; that you
will please to countenance our People in their just
Complaints, and to give them timely Redress; whereby they be not compelled to forsake their Habitations, or forced to undue Courses through Despair:
And these Requests we move with great Confidence
of obtaining, as proceeding from those who upon all
good Occasions desire to approve themselves
"The humble Servants of your Excellency."
Yorke, the 4th October, 1645.
The E. of Leven's Answer to them.
"Gentlemen,
"I received a Letter of yours, dated at Yorke, the
4th of October, and in it an Accompt of the Country
People's Greivances against our Army. I have not
bin many Dayes from them; and am exceeding sorry
to heare that soe short a Tyme hath bred soe greate
a Change in their Carriage. My Care hath ever beene,
and shal bee, to preserve them in Order, and the
Country from Oppression; and as I have ever beene
ready to heare the just Complaints of the meanest,
and to give them Sattisfaction and Reparation, soe I
shall make it a Request unto you, that all Complaints of these Kinds you mention may bee ready at
my Retourne unto the Army (which for that very
Cause I shall hasten); and you shall see Redresse of
them to the full: Which is all for the present can
be said to you at this Distance, by
"Your very affectionate Freind,
"Subscribed, Leven."
Berwick, 6 October, 1645.
"Then Mr. Tate managed another Part of the
Conference; which was to this Effect: That he was
to communicate to their Lordships a Letter they
received from the Scotts Commissioners, which was
read; and is verbatim the same which this House received from the Scotts Commissioners Yesterday.
Report of the Conference, about the Ordinance for Relief of poor Widows.
"Another Part was about the Ordinance for the
poor Widows, wherein their Lordships have made
some Alteration; and the House of Commons desire
that in that Alteration there may be the changing
of One Word; ["and"] to be made ["or"], because for both Speakers to meet so often as there
will be Occasion (fn. *) ."
Committee to search for Precedents concerning the E. of Stamford's Impeachment.
This House taking this Report into Consideration
And concerning the Earl of Stamford's Business, Ordered, That it is referred to the Committee for Privileges, to search Records, and consider how much this
Business concerns the Privileges and Judicature of this
House; and to make Report to this House on Saturday
come Sevennight, at which Time all the Lords are to have
Notice to be present; and the Committee to meet when
they please, and to call whom they please to assist them.
Ordered, That the Report concerning the Scotch
Business shall be taken into Consideration To-morrow
Morning, and likewise the Ordinance concerning the
poor Widows.
Ordinances, &c for Concurrence.
The Ordinance for paying out of the Excise Two
Thousand Pounds, for the Isle of Ely, was read, and
Agreed to. (Here enter it.)
The Order for the Lord Powis to have Four Pounds
a Week allowed him, was read, and Agreed to.
(Here enter it.)
The Ordinance for issuing Five Thousand Pounds for
Abingdon, was read, and Agreed to. (Here enter it.)
The Ordinance for paying One Hundred Pounds to
Mr. Bedford, Scout-master General, was read, and
Agreed to. (Here enter it.)
The Ordinance for paying Two Hundred Thirtythree Pounds, Eighteen Shillings, and Four Pence, to
Maurice. Thompson, was read.
Respited for a little Time.
The Ordinance for paying One Thousand Six Hundred and Seventy Pounds, and Eight Pence, to Maurice
Thompson, was read.
Respited for a little Time.
Alderman Adams, the Lord Mayor Elect, presented for Approbation.
This Day Mr. Alderman Adams, Lord Mayor Elect
for the City of London, accompanied with Mr. Recorder of London, the Sheriffs, and many of the Aldermen, was presented to this House, for Approbation;
and the Recorder made a short Speech, to this Effect:
"That the City of London having elected Mr. Alderman
Adams to be Lord Mayor for the Year ensuing, in
Pursuance of their Charters, they do present him to
this House, in the Absence of the King's Person, for
to receive Approbation; therefore he was commanded
by the City of London, in their Name, to desire this
High Court to give Approbation of their Choice."
This done, they withdrew. And the House appointed the Earl of Northumberland, Earl of Manchester, and the Lord Roberts, to withdraw, and consider what Answer to return, by Way of Approbation
of their Choice.
They returned, and reported what they had prepared; which being done, the House approved of it.
And then the Lord Mayor Elect, and Mr. Recorder,
and the rest, were called in again; and the Speaker
read the Approbation, as followeth:
Approved of.
"My Lords have commanded me to declare unto
you, That they do very well approve and confirm
the Choice of Mr. Alderman Addams, to be Lord
Mayor of the City of London, as well in respect of
the great Confidence they have in that famous City,
as for the Fitness of the Person expressed at the Bar;
and their Lordships have commanded me to return
you hearty Thanks, for the Continuance of your
good Affections to their Lordships and this Parliament; and they will be ever ready to express their
Care of, and Respects to, that City, which hath
shewed so great Affections upon all Occasions to the
Public Welfare of this Kingdom."
Order for the Committee of Bedford to forbear assessing the Dowager Lady Spencer.
"Whereas the House was this Day certainly informed, That the Committee of Bedford hath assessed the Right Honourable the Baroness Dowager
Spencer, by colour of an Ordinance of Parliament,
for the better enabling of the Scotts for the
Assistance of the State; which the said Committee
(she being a Peeress of this Realm) have not Authority to do: It is therefore Ordered and Declared,
by the Lords in Parliament assembled, That the said
Committee, and all others whom this may concern,
shall forbear any further Prosecution in the said
Assessment, which is hereby taken off and vacated;
and that neither the said Committee, nor any other
within the said County, shall assess or levy any
other Sum upon the said Baroness, or her Estate,
within the County aforesaid, upon the said Occasion, she being to be assessed by the Lords in Parliament for the said Loan, and not by any other Person whatsoever; and hereunto the said Committee,
and all others whom it doth concern, are to yield
their Obedience accordingly.
"To the Committee for the
County of Bedd."
Order for the Commissioners of Excise to re-pay themselves 2000l. advanced for the Isle of Ely.
"Whereas Thomas Foote Esquire, Alderman of the
City of London, and the rest of the Commissioners
of Excise and new Impost, have (upon the present
Emergencies of the Isle of Ely) advanced and lent
the Sum of Two Thousand Pounds, Part of the Five
Thousand Pounds charged upon the Excise, by Ordinance of the 19th of Sept. 1645, for the Isle of Ely:
Be it Ordained, by the Lords and Commons in Parliament, That the Commissioners of Excise shall and
may satisfy and reimburse themselves, and their Executors, Administrators, or Assigns, shall be satisfied
the said Sum of Two Thousand Pounds, with Interest for the same, until the Reimbursement thereof, out of the Receipts of Excise, by Ordinance of
the 11th of September, 1643, out of such Intervals as
shall happen when other Payments already charged
shall not fall due; and for Want of such Intervals,
then as the same shall follow in Course after other
Assignments already charged shall be satisfied; and
shall not, by any other Ordinance, be debarred
from satisfying of the said Principal and Interest as
aforesaid: And it is further Ordained, That if the
said Two Thousand Pounds, with Interest, or any
Part thereof, shall be unsatisfied on the 11th of September, 1646, that then the present Commissioners
of Excise, their Executors, Administrators, or Assigns, shall be satisfied and paid the same, or so much
as shall be then unpaid in Manner aforesaid, out of
the further Receipts of Excise, by the Commissioners
of Excise and new Impost for the Time being, who
are hereby authorized to make Payment thereof accordingly."
Order for 4l. a Week for Lord Powis's Maintenance in Prison.
"It is this Day Ordered, by the Lords and Commons assembled in Parliament, That the Lord Powes
shall have the Allowance of Four Pounds per Week
paid him, for his Maintenance in Prison, out of his
own Estate, by the Committee of Sequestrations
where his Estate lies."
Order for 5000l. for the Garrison of Abingdon.
"It is this Day Ordained, by the Lords and Commons assembled in Parliament, That Five Thousand
Pounds be paid in Course, out of the Receipts of the
Excise, by Ordinance of the 11th of September, 1643,
for and towards the reducing of Oxon, and the Preservation of the Garrison of Abingdon; and the
said Five Thousand Pounds to be paid unto the
Committee of (fn. *) the Three Counties, or the Treasurer appointed, whose Receipt, or of his Assignee,
shall be the Commissioners of Excise for the Time
being their Warrant and Discharge, for Payment of
the said Five Thousand Pounds accordingly."
Order for 100l. to Mr. Bedford, Scout-master General.
"It is this Day Ordained, by the Lords and Commons assembled in Parliament, That One Hundred
Pounds be paid in Course, out of the Receipts of
Excise, by Ordinance of the 11th of September, 1643,
unto Mr. Bedford, Scout-master General, whose Receipt shall be the Commissioners of Excise (hereby
authorized and enjoined to make Payment accordingly) their sufficient Discharge and Warrant."