DIE Saturni, 8 die Novembris.
PRAYERS, by Mr. Sallawey.
Ds. Grey de Warke, Speaker.
L. Viscount Say & Seale.
Answer from the H. C.
Serjeant Ayliff and Dr. Heath return with this Answer from the House of Commons:
That they will send an Answer, by Messengers of their
own, to all the Particulars sent Yesterday.
Woodhouse, from Plymouth.
This Day Kettleby Woodhouse was at this Bar, who
came from Plymouth according to the Order of this
The Earl of Manchester reported from the Committee of both Kingdoms, Papers concerning South Wales;
which were as follow:
Letter from the Committee of Pembroke, &c. giving an Account of the Reduction of that County, Cardigan, &c. and Monmouth Castle, &c.
"Our very good Lords and Gentlemen,
"Having been now a full Fortnight in these Parts,
in Pursuance of the Instructions you were pleased to
intrust us with, we shall now crave Leave to give you
an Account of our Proceedings; the Reduction of
the Three Counties of Pembrooke, Cardigan, and Carmarthen, the Taking of Chepstow, the Town of Monmouth and Castle, we having writ to some of our
Friends of the House of Commons, cannot but think
the Knowledge thereof is come unto you. In the
disposing of the Inhabitants of these Parts to a good
Understanding of and Subjection to the King and
Parliament, God hath so prospered our Endeavours,
that the principal Gentlemen of these Counties have
framed and subscribed a Declaration to that Effect, as
cordial and express as any (with Favour we conceive
so) that you have had from the most confiding Counties. The Original going chearfully on for more
Hands, we crave Leave to impart thus much unto
you by this inclosed Transcript. And herein the
Gentlemen of Brecon, by an Express with a Letter
under the Hands of sundry of the best Rank amongst
them, have declared their Concurrence. We have
very good Hopes of the like from Radnor, who may
not yet be so quick-handed, in regard they are more
exposed to the Violence of the Enemy. By this,
(fn. *) your Lordships, &c. may see the Constitution and
Condition of the Six Shires of South Wales, and that
of Monmouth. Yesterday, in Cardiffe Church, we observed the Parliament Fast (blessed be God for it),
and intend the Monthly Continuance of it; for the
more effectual Performance whereof, and Instruction
of the People in the true Fear and Worship of God,
it is much desired of all Hands, that some godly Ministers may speedily be sent into these Parts, the
People being very tractable, and indeed far more
than might reasonably be expected, living under such
a prelatical, ignorant, and corrupted a Ministry, as
by sad Account your Lordships, &c. will suddenly
see. We crave Leave also to advertise you, that Mr.
Thomas Herbert and Captain Potter, Two of your
Commissioners for the Parliament Army, were here
on Wednesday last, in their Way Westward, to try
what Recruits of Horse and Provisions may be had in
these Parts, wherein the Gentlemen were very desirous to do their uttermost; but to the former were
not able to give any Assistance, the Country not
breeding much, many taken away by the King's
Forces, some perished in Service, and not a Competency remaining for the necessary Service of the
Country: Provisions they have chearfully undertaken
for, so far forth as the Country can possibly spare,
and to send the same unto such Places and Parts as
Sir (fn. †) Tho. Fairefax shall direct, as we have at large
writ unto him.
"Being unwilling to give you more Trouble, by the
Extent of these, than Necessity requires, we humbly
take our Leaves, recommend you to the merciful
Protection of our good God, and are perfectly
"Your Lordships, &c. most willing
"and most humble Servants,
Cardiff, the 30th of October, 1645.
Phi. Jones. Jo. Herbert."
Next, the Declaration was read. (Here enter it.)
Ministers to be sent down into Wales.
Hereupon this House thought it fit that some Ministers
should be sent down to them; and a Letter sent to them
from both Houses, to encourage them to continue conformable to the Proceedings and Commands of the Parliament; and the Concurrence of the House of Commons
Ld. Campden's Words against the E. of Rutland.
The House was informed, "That the Lord Viscount
Campden desired the Lord Mountague to deliver a Message from him to the Earl of Rutland, "That it was
in his Power to do him Prejudice, or a Mischief; and
that he would do it, if he were provoked to it."
The Lord Viscount Campden was called to the Bar;
and the Lord Mountague justified the Words before him:
And then the Speaker asked him, "Whether he sent
that Message, and what he meant by the Word ["Mischief"]?"
The Lord Viscount Campden did not deny the Effect of
what the Lord Mountague witnessed; and by the Word
["Mischief"] he meant, "it may be a great Cause of
Difference between him and the Earl of Rutland;
because the Earl of Rutland, in his Petition, mentions
that he hath suffered Damage to the Value of Twenty
Thousand Pounds by him, and he must be forced to
clear himself of it;" but (fn. *) he hath nothing to charge
the Earl of Rutland with.
Upon this, the House declared the Earl of Rutland's
Honour free from any Thing as appears against him.
Ld. Grey & al. and Mr. Finch & al.
Ordered, That the Cause between the Lord Grey,
&c. against Mr. Fynch, &c. shall be put off till the 14th
of December next.
Ordinance for Mr. Smith to be Prothonotary in Chancery.
Upon reading the Petition of Sam. Smyth; desiring,
in regard of his continual Attendance upon the House
of Peers, that he may have the Place of Prothonotary
in the Chancery conferred upon him, which was in
the Possession of Thomas Hussy, who hath forfeited the
same, because he hath not taken the National Covenant according to the Ordinance of Parliament, as
appeared by a Certificate of Mr. Scobell, One of the
Registers of the Chancery."
It is Ordered, That the said Sam. Smyth be preferred to that Place: To this Purpose, an Ordinance was
read, and approved of; and Ordered, That it be sent
down to the House of Commons, for their Concurrence.
Message to the H. C. with it; and the Letter and Declaration from South Wales;
A Message was sent to the House of Commons, by
Dr. Aylett and Dr. Heath:
1. To deliver to them the Letter and Declaration of
the Counties of South Wales; and desire Concurrence,
that some Ministers may be sent down to them, and a
Letter written from both Houses, to encourage them to
continue conformable to the Orders and Commands of
2. To desire Concurrence in the Ordinance concerning Mr. Sam. Smyth.
and to remind them of Petitions formerly sent down.
3. To put them in Mind of the Lady Chaworth's Petition.
4. To put them in Mind of the Officers of the Army,
concerning their Arrears.
5. To put them in Mind of the Earl of Stamford's
Ordinance for Ordination of Ministers.
The House was adjourned into a Committee, to consider of the Ordinance of the Ordination of Ministers;
and, after Debate, the House was resumed.
And the Question was put, "Whether this Ordinance should pass, as it came from the House
of Commons?" (Here enter it.)
And it was Resolved in the Affirmative.
"A Declaration of the Knights, Gentlemen, and
Freeholders of the County of Glamorgan, the
25th of October, 1645.
Declaration of the Gentlemen of Glamorganshire, that they will adhere to the Parliament.
"Whereas it hath pleased Almighty God, of His
infinite Goodness, to bless the weak Endeavours of
the well-affected Gentry and Commons of this Coun
ty, to free themselves from those over-mastering
Powers and arbitrary Pressures they groaned under,
whereof they have been desirous of a long Time to
be freed, and now, by the Providence of God, are
in some Measure restored to the Law and undoubted
Liberties belonging to the free-born Subjects of this
Kingdom; we have therefore thought ourselves bound
to testify, before all the World, our most hearty and
unfeigned Thankfulness unto Almighty God, for
so great a Mercy extended towards us; and also our
most humble and hearty Thanks unto that Supreme
Wise Council of this Kingdom the Parliament, for
their unparalleled and unwearied Care of the Public,
and their particular Favour to this our County, in
sending Captain Robert Melton, Admiral of the Irish
Seas, and other Gentlemen since, to assist and countenance our Endeavours against the Violence of the
Enemies of the Peace and Quietness of the Kingdom;
and we do hereby declare, that albeit being formerly
over-mastered by Forces so far; that we were not able
to appear so ready as the Duty we owed to His Majesty and the Great Council required of us, yet our
Affections ever sided and adhered to them; and our
firm Resolution is, from henceforward, to hazard our
Lives for their Preservation, who have so long adventured theirs for the Good and Welfare of the
Kingdom, and no longer to be Lookers-on, but joint
Labourers by the Direction and Protection of the Parliament in the happy establishing this Kingdom in
a happy Peace, as far as our exhausted Abilities will
extend, for the Preservation of the true Reformed
Protestant Religion, His Majesty's Royal Person,
Prosperity, and Dignity, the settling and preserving
the Peace of the Three Kingdoms of England, Scotland, and Ireland, the Rights and Privileges of the
Parliament, the Laws of the Land, with the Liberty
and Property of the Subject, all which we will endeavour to maintain with the Hazard of our Lives;
and this unfeigned Declaration we breathe from our
Hearts, and testify under our Hands."
Col. Fielding's Engagement to return, if he cannot effect his Exchange.
"Whereas the Right Honourable the Lords assembled in the High Court of Parliament have Ordered,
That a Pass shall be granted, by the Right Honourable
the Lord Grey of Warke, Speaker (pro Tempore) of the
House of Peers, to Colonel Richard Feildinge (now a
Prisoner of War), to go to His Majesty, to endeavour the gaining of a fit Exchange for himself;
whereupon I, the said Colonel Richard Feildinge, do
hereby promise and engage myself, upon the Faith
and Honour of a Gentleman and a Soldier, to the Right
Honourable the Lord Grey of Warke, That I will (by
the Assistance and Permission of God) either procure
the Enlargement of such Person or Persons (now Prisoners with His Majesty) as both Houses of Parliament shall like and approve of, for my Exchange,
and cause them to be sent to the City of London, or
such other Place or Places as both Houses of Parliament shall appoint, or return to London, and yield
my Body a Prisoner, within Forty Days next after
the Date hereof; and that I will not, at any Time
(until my Exchange be fully perfected), give any Intelligence, or join in Council with any, or do any
Act or Thing whatsoever that shall or may be prejudicial to both or either Houses of Parliament, or
any Forces or Garrisons under their Power or Command.
"In Testimony whereof, I have hereunto put my
Hand and Seal, this Tenth Day of November,
Anno Domini 1645.
"An Ordinance of the Lords and Commons assembled in Parliament, for the Ordination of
Ordinance for the Ordination of Ministers.
"Whereas the Word Presbyter, that is to say, Elder, and the Word Bishop, do in the Scriptures intend and signify. One and the same Function, although
the Title of Bishop hath been by corrupt Custom appropriated to One, and that unto him ascribed, and
by him assumed, as in other Things, so in the Matter of Ordination that was not meet, which Ordination, notwithstanding, being performed by him, a
Presbyter, joined with other Presbyters, we hold for
Substance to be valid, and not to be disclaimed by
any that have received it; and the Presbyters so
ordained, being lawfully thereunto appointed and authorized, may ordain other Presbyters: And whereas
it is also manifest, by the Word of God, that no
Man ought to take upon him the Office of a Minister
until he be lawfully called and ordained thereunto,
and that the Work of Ordination, that is to say, an
outward solemn Setting-apart of Persons for the
Office of the Ministry in the Church by preaching
Presbyters, is an Ordinance of Christ, and is to be
performed with all due Care, Wisdom, Gravity, and
Solemnity: It is Ordained, by the Lords and Commons assembled in Parliament, and by the Authority
of the same (after Advice had with the Assembly of
Divines now convened at Westm.), That the several
and respective Classical Presbyteries, within their
several and respective Bounds, may examine, approve, and ordain Presbyters, according to the Directory for Ordination, and Rules for Examination
hereafter expressed; (that is to say,)
"1. First, That he that is to be ordained must address himself to the Presbytery, and bring with him
a Testimonial of his taking the Covenant of the Three
Kingdoms, of his Diligence and Proficiency in his
Studies, what Degrees he hath taken in the University, and what hath been the Time of his Abode
there, and withall of his Age, which is to be Twentyfour Years at least, but especially of his Life and
"2. Secondly, The Presbytery shall proceed to enquire touching the Grace of God in him, and whether he be of such Holiness of Life as is requisite in
a Minister of the Gospel, and to examine him touching his Learning and Sufficiency, and touching the
Evidence of his Calling to the Holy Ministry, and in
particular his fair and direct Calling to that Place to
which he is designed.
"The Rules for Examination are these:
"1. That the Party examined be dealt with in a
Brotherly Way, with Mildness of Spirit, and
with special Respect to the Gravity, Modesty,
and Quality of every one.
"2. Secondly, He shall be examined touching his
Skill in the Original Tongues; and that Trial
to be made by reading the Hebrewe and Greeke
Testaments, and rendering some Portions of
them into Latin; and Enquiry also shall be
made after his other Learning, and whether
he hath Skill in Logic and Philosophy.
"3. Thirdly, What Authors in Divinity he hath
read, and is best acquainted with; and Trial
shall be made of his Knowledge in the chief
Grounds of Religion, and of his Ability to
defend the Orthodox Doctrine contained in
them against all unsound and erroneous Opinions, especially those of the present Age;
of his Skill in the Sense and Meaning of such
Places of Scripture as shall be proposed unto
him in Cases of Conscience, and in the Chronology of Scripture and of the Ecclesiastical
"4. If he hath not before preached in Public
with Approbation of such as are able to
judge, he shall, at a competent Time assigned him, and before the Presbytery, expound such a Place of Scripture as shall be
"5. He shall, in a competent Time, also frame a
Discourse in Latin, upon such a Common
Place, or Controversy in Divinity, as shall be
assigned him; and exhibit to the Presbytery
such Theses as express the Sum thereof, and
maintain a Dispute upon them.
"6. He shall preach before the People; the Presbytery, or some of the Ministers of the Word
appointed by them, being present.
"7. The Proportion of his Gifts, in relation to
the Place unto which he is called, shall be
"8. Besides the Trial of his Gifts in Preaching,
he shall undergo an Examination in the Premises Two several Days, or more, if the
Presbytery shall judge it necessary.
"3. Thirdly, After which, he, being approved, is
to be sent to the Church, or other Place, where he
is to serve (if it may be done with Safety and Conveniency), there to preach Three several Days, and to
converse with the People, that they may have Trial
of his Gifts for their Edification, and may have Time
and Leisure to enquire into, and the better to know,
his Life and Conversation.
"4. Fourthly, In the last of those Three Days appointed for the making known his Gifts in Preaching, there shall be sent from the Presbytery to the
Congregation (if it may be done with Safety and
Conveniency) a Public Instrument in Writing, which
shall publicly be read before the People, and after
affixed to the Church-door, to signify, such a Day,
any Member or Members of the said Congregation,
or any other Person or Persons whatsoever, or any
of them, may put in, with all Christian Discretion
and Meekness, what Exceptions they have against
him; and if, upon the Day appointed, there be no
just Exceptions against him, the Presbytery shall proceed to Ordination.
"5. Fifthly, Upon the Day appointed for Ordination (which is to be performed in that Church where
he that is to be ordained is to serve, if it may be
done with Safety and Conveniency), a solemn Fast
shall be kept by the Congregation, that they may
more earnestly join in Prayer to God, for a Blessing
upon the Person and Labours of this His Servant,
solemnly to be set apart to the Office of the Ministry, for their Good. The Presbytery shall come
to the Place, or Four Ministers of the Word at the
least shall be sent from the Presbytery, whereof
One shall preach to the People concerning the Office and Duty of the Ministers of Christ, and how
the People ought to esteem him for the Work's
"6. Sixthly, After the Sermon ended, the Minister
which hath preached shall, in the Face of the Congregation, demand of him who is now to be ordained
concerning his Faith in Christ Jesus, and his Persuasion of the Truth of the Reformed Religion according to the Scriptures; his sincere Intentions and
Ends in desiring to enter into his Calling; his Resolution to be diligent in Prayer, Reading, Meditation,
Preaching, ministering the Sacraments, and doing all
Ministerial Duties towards his Charge; his Zeal and
Faithfulness in maintaining the Truth of the Gospel,
and Unity of the Church against Error and Schism;
his Care that himself and Family may be unblameable, and Examples to the Flock; and his Resolution
to continue in his Duty against all Trouble and Persecution.
"7. Seventhly, In all which having declared himself, professed his Willingness, and promised his Endeavours by the Help of God; the Presbytery, or
the Ministers sent from them, shall solemnly set him
apart to the Office and Work of the Ministry, laying
their Hands on him, with a short Prayer or Blessing
to this Effect:
"Thankfully acknowledging the great Mercy of
God, in sending Jesus Christ for the Redemption of His People, and for his Ascension to the Right Hand of God The Father,
and there pouring out His Spirit, and giving
Gifts to Men, Apostles, Evangelists, Prophets, Pastors, and Teachers, for the gathering and building up of His Church; and for
fitting and inclining this Man to this great
Work; to beseech Him to fill him with His
Holy Spirit, whom in His Name we (fn. *) set
apart to this Holy Service, to fulfil the Work
of His Ministry in all Things, that he may
both save himself and the People committed
to his Charge.
"8. This, or the like Form of Prayer or Blessing,
being ended, let the Minister who preached briefly
exhort him, to consider the Greatness of his Office
and Work, the Danger of Negligence both to himself and his People, the Blessing which will accompany his Faithfulness in this Life and that to come;
withall let him exhort and charge the People, in the
Name of God, willingly to receive and acknowledge
him as the Minister of Christ, and to maintain, encourage, and assist him in all the Parts of his Office;
and so by Prayer commending both him and his
Flock to the Grace of God, after the Singing of
a Psalm, let the Assembly be dismissed with a
"9. Let such as are chosen or appointed for the
Service of the Army or Navy, or Colleges, or other
Charge, be ordained as abovesaid, in such Church
as the Classical Presbytery to which they shall address themselves shall think fit; and such Alterations
made by the Minister that ordaineth, from the Exhortation last before prescribed, as the Circumstances
of Place and Person shall require.
"And be it further Ordained, by the said Lords
and Commons, and by the Authority aforesaid, That
every Person formerly ordained a Presbyter according to the Form of Ordination which hath been held
in the Church of England, and is to be removed to
another Charge, do bring the Presbytery where he
is to be placed, a Testimonial of his Ordination, and
of his Abilities and Conversation; whereupon his
Fitness for that Place where he is to be removed shall
be tried by his Preaching there, and (if it shall be
judged necessary) by a further Examination; and so,
without any new Ordination, he shall be admitted, if
he be approved as fit for that Place; and if any
Person ordained Minister in Scotland, or in any other
Reformed Church, be designed to a Congregation
in England, he is to bring from that Church to the
Presbytery where he is to be placed, a sufficient
Testimonial of his Ordination, of his Life and Conversation while he lived with them, and of the
Causes of his Removal; and to undergo such a Trial
of his Fitness and Sufficiency, and to have the same
Course held with him in other Particulars, as is set
down in the foregoing Rule and Provision touching
the Examination and Admission of Persons formerly
ordained in England.
"And it is further Ordained, That Records be carefully kept, by the Register to be nominated by the
Presbytery, of the Names of the Persons ordained,
with their Testimonial of the Time and Place of their
Ordination, and of the Ministers who did ordain
them, and of the Charge to which they are appointed; and that no Money or Gift of what Kind soever
shall be received from the Person to be ordained, or
from any on his Behalf, for Ordination, or aught
else belonging to it, by the Presbytery, or any of
them, or any appertaining to any of them, upon
what Pretence soever, except to the Register, for
the Entry, Instruments, and Testimonials of his Ordination, which shall not exceed the Sum of Ten
Shillings for each Person ordained.
"And it is yet further Ordained, by the Authority
aforesaid, That all Persons who shall be ordained
Presbyters according to this Directory shall be for
ever reputed and taken, to all Intents and Purposes,
for lawful and sufficiently-authorized Ministers of the
Church of England, and as capable of any Ministerial Employment in the Church, with the Rights
and Profits belonging thereunto, as any other Presbyters whatsoever already ordained, or hereafter to
be ordained; and that all Presbyters, who are hereby appointed and authorized to ordain, and shall
(according to this present Directory) ordain any Presbyters, are hereby declared to perform an acceptable Service to this Church and Kingdom; and shall
have the Protection of both Houses of Parliament for
"Provided, That this Ordinance shall stand in Force
for Twelve Months, and no longer; any Thing in this
Ordinance contained to the contrary in any Wise notwithstanding."
House adjourned till 102, Monday next.