DIE Saturni, 24 die Januarii.
PRAYERS, by Dr. Wincupp.
Ds. Grey de Warke, Speaker.
L. Viscount Say & Seale.
Brundish to be instituted to Felsham.
Ordered, That Sir Nath. Brent shall give Institution
and Induction to Thomas Brundish Clerk, to the Rectory
of Felsham, in the County of Suffolke; he being presented to the said Living by John Risby Esquire.
Capt. Plunkett versus Todd, M'. Alexander, & al.
Ordered, That the Committee do meet on Friday
next, in the Afternoon, to hear Captain Plunkett's
Business; at which Time both Parties are to be present and heard, and no Proceedings to be had in the
mean Time; and that Mr. Justice Rolls and Baron
Atkins shall have Notice to attend that Committee.
Ryley versus Browne.
Upon reading the Petition of Wm. Ryley Esquire,
Lancaster Herald, and Articles exhibited by him against
Robert Browne: It is Ordered, That the Gentleman
Usher shall seal up the Doors of the Herald's Office,
in the Presence of the Petitioner, and the said Robert
Browne; and that Browne shall have a Copy of the Petition and Articles, and appear before this House on
Thursday next, to answer the same.
Message from the H.C. for a Conference about Letters from the Committee with the Army; and that they will give One about Martial Law.
A Message was brought from the House of Commons,
by Sir Henry Mildmay Knight:
1. To desire a Conference, touching some Letters received from the Committee at Newarke.
2. To excuse that they could not Yesterday give
their Lordships a Conference, as was appointed, concerning the Ordinance of Martial Law; but they will be
ready to give a Conference whensoever their Lordships
please to appoint.
The Answer returned was:
That this House will give a present Conference, in
the Painted Chamber, concerning the Letters received
from the Committee at Newarke; and at the same Time
will hear what they shall offer concerning the Ordinance
for Martial Law.
The Earl of Northumb. reported a Paper from the
Committee of both Kingdoms; which was read, as follows:
Report that the King declared He would come to London.
"Die Veneris, 23 Januarii, 1645.
At the Committee of both Kingdoms, at Derby
"Ordered, That it be reported to both Houses,
That One who came from Oxford on the 20th Instant
faith, That he heard there, that the King should tell
the Junto on Saturday last, That He would come to
London, though He were shot to Death as soon as He
"Secretary to the same Committee."
The Earl of Manchester reported a Paper from the
Committee of Accommodations; which was read, videlicet,
Paper from the Committee for accommodating Differences in Church Government, for chusing fit Officers, and excluding improper People from the Sacrament.
"Jan. 23, 1645.
"At the Committee of Lords and Commons, Commissioners of the Church of Scotland, and Divines of the Assembly.
"Resolved, upon the Question, nemine contradicente,
That it be reported to the Honourable Houses, That
there being an Inclination to bear with our Brethren
in the Matter of Subordination both for People and
Ministers; a very great Impediment, likely to hinder
the Work committed to this Committee, is the Want
of a full Rule for purging the Congregations in Point
of receiving the Sacrament, and chusing fit Officers;
and therefore it is desired, That the Members of
the Honourable Houses who are Members of this
Committee do communicate so much to the several
Houses respectively, and do desire that so effectual
and speedy Course may be taken herein, as may
seem best to the Wisdom of the Honourable Houses.
Ordered, That the Matters concerning Government
shall be taken into Consideration on Tuesday Morning
next; and such Papers concerning that Business as
were never read in this House shall then be read.
Letter from the Scots Commissioners.
Next, a Letter from the Scotch Commissioners, with
a Paper inclosed, were read. (Here enter them.)
Grey to be instituted to Wickham Brooke.
Ordered, That Sir Nath. Brent shall give Institution and Induction to Thomas Grey Clerk, and Batchelor
of Arts, to the Vicarage of Wickam Brooke, in the
County of Suff. and Diocese of Norwich.
The House was adjourned during Pleasure, and the
Lords went to the Conference; which being ended, the
House was resumed.
The Letter to the Earl of Rutland was read, and approved of by the House; videlicet,
Letter of Thanks to the Committee with the Army before Newark.
"I have received Letters from your Lordship, which
(fn. *) have been communicated to the Lords in Parliament, who have commanded me, in their Name, to
return your Lordship Thanks for your Respects
towards them, and the Care and Pains you take in
the transacting of the Public Affairs; and as touching those Particulars wherein your Lordship desires
further Directions, their Lordships have put them
into a Way of Consideration, the Results whereof
shall be sent your Lordship with all possible Expedition.
"Your Lordship's humble Servant,
Westm. this 24th January, 1645.
"Grey De Werke,
"Speaker of the House of Peers pro Tempore.
To the Right Honourable the Earl
Letter from the Scots Commissioners, with the following Paper.
"For the Right Honnorable the Speaker of the
House of Peeres pro Tempore.
"Wee have desired Sattisfaction from the Committee of both Houses in some Things which doe highly concerne the Kingdome of Scotland; and this
Answere being retourned unto us, That they have
noe Power to treate with us therein, wee have resolved, and accordingly desire your Lordship, to comunicate the inclosed to both Houses; and remaine
"Your Lordship's humble Servants,
Worcester House, 24 January, 1645/6;.
Paper from them, complaining of various Calumnies against them and their Army; and of pretended Informations that the Scots are negotiating a Peace with the King.
"Although, in this Tyme of Disorder and Confusion, untill it shall please God to give a Blessing to
the good Indeavors of the Parliament, for the effectinge of that long-wisht-for Reformation according
to our Covenant, and setling a good and happy Peace
both in Church and State, all Things are imagined
to bee lawfull, and every one taketh Liberty to
himselfe to speake, and write, and preach, and doe,
against God, Religion, the Publiqùe, and every Sort
of Persons bee they never soe unblameable, what
they in their byaseed Spiritts or private Designes
thinke conduceable to their owne Ends; yet there is
a Necessity layd upon us, who are sent hither as Commissioners from annother Kingdome to which wee
must bee answerable, to have Recourse to the Honnorable Houses of Parliament, and to vindicate ourselves, and that our native Country, from such Aspersions, Obloquies, and Calumnyes, as have beene to
ordinary since our comeing to this Place, and are of
late more then ordinary cast upon us; that our Enemyes, whether open or secrett, may, if (fn. *) it bee possible, bee ashamed of their Malice and Malignity
against the common Cause; and as for it, our Freinds
may bee sattisfyed with and rejoyce in our knowne
Integrity, and the Kingdome from whence wee came;
and ourselves, who are soe much entrusted and engaged, may bee able, in the Testimony of a good
Conscience before God, to hould upp our Faces before all the World, by all our Consultations, Designes,
"Wee have not forgotten that solemne League and
Covenant, for the Defence and Reformation of Religion, and the Preservation of the just Libertyes of
both Kingdomes, which is knowne to all Christendome, as presumptuously to run into the horrible
Violation thereof. Wee cannott bee insensible of
the many and greivouse Sufferings of the Kingdome
of Scotland those Yeares past, and at this Tyme, in
the Preservation of that Cause and Covenant, which
Promise they may Reward from God in His owne
Tyme (fn. †) , although Men should prove soe unthankfull
as to recompence Evill for Good; nor can it bee
unknowne to the Honnorable Houses of Parliament,
that wee have, dureing our Residence here with all
our Power endeavored the Advancement of the
common Cause, by a good Correspondence betweene
the Kingdomes, and with much Patience endured
much Interpretation and many unjust Surmises in
secrett, and Reproaches in publique, which wee did
not expect, and which, by the Successe and Reality
of our Actions, have evanished and turned to nothinge, whereby wee were made the more confident
that at last the Mouth of Malice itselfe should have
beene stopped. Yet at this Tyme, and in this Conjuncture of Affaires, soe unseasonably, and that not
in Secrett or in a Corner, but openly and before the
Committee of both Kingdomes, diverse Informations
are produced against us, against the Scottish Army
in this Kingdome, and against the Kingdome of
Scotland itselfe, which challenge and charge them
and us with such Things as are contrary to our sacred Covenant, to our former Actions and manifold
Sufferings, (and as wee conceive) to the Sense and
Experience of all that knowe us, especially of the
Honnorable Houses, which are best acquainted with
our Proceedings. What may bee the Designe or
Intentions of the Authors and Contrivers, wee
knowe not; but the Result and Effect, unlesse wisely prevented, can bee noe other then, what is most
to bee feared, the Division of the Kingdomes, which
God hath by soe many Bonds conjoyned, and all
the tragicall Consequents following thereupon, as
much to bee avoyded and abhorred as the Benefitt of their Conjunction and Union was of late
desired; when it was on both Sides professed,
That both Kingdomes must stand and fall together: And wee must all acknowledge the Ballance
is in the Hand of God, the Righteous Judge, who
exalteth and bringeth low at His owne good Pleasure.
"Haveing desired Sattisfaction from the Committee
of both Houses against some of those Injuryes; and
Answere being retourned unto us, That they have
not Power to treate with us therein till the Houses
bee first acquainted; it will not (wee suppose) bee
tedious to the Honnorable Houses, to heare what
is necessary for us to say concerning our late particular Greivances; and it wil bee their Justice to
judge of us as they would have others to judge of
themselves, or their owne Commissioners in the like
Case and Capacity.
"Upon the 17th of this Instant January, Two Letters as sent from Paris, both under the Name of
one Robert Wright, yet of different Hand-writings
in the Letters and Subscriptions, were delivered into
the Committee of both Kingdomes by Mr. Solicitor,
who professeth that he knoweth not the Person,
nor whether the Name by which he is designed bee
true or fained.
"These Letters soe expressly say, That a Treaty
for Peace betweene the King and Scotts is with all
Industry prosecuted by Mr. William Murray with
the Queene, which Shee entertaines with greate
Hopes of a faire Conclusion; and the only Obstaccle
that hinders it for the present is the Difficulty
of reconcileing the Party of Montrosse with that
of Hamilton and Argile; that the Scotts Commissioners in England have given Assurance, that those
Partyes shall reconcile and declare with One Consent for the Kinge, in a Case supposed by Himselfe;
that the Scotts will doe noe Service before Newarke;
and that therefore the Parliament may have Two
"These Two Letters of this unknowne Robert
Wright were seconded with an Information given
to Mr. Pierrepoint (before his goeing downe to the
Scotts Army aboute Six Weekes agoe), and to Mr.
Solicitor, and Mr. Crew, from a Knight whose Name
is concealed from us, though wee have earnestly
desired it; bearing, that there was One came to
this unknowne Knight, from France, to give him
Notice, That Mr. William Murray was imployed in
France by the Scotts, as their Agent, to make over
unto the King of France the Debts due by the
Kingdome of England to Scotland; and that the
King of France was to pay the Debt to Scotland.
After this Information, an intercepted Letter of
Mr. Jermin's to the Lord Digby, of the 24th of
June, was remembred, and a Coppy thereof appointed to bee delivered unto us, wherein wee
finde is mentioned, That the Scotts Commissioners
were treating with the Queene; and that those Persons had first made their Application to the Lord
"These Accusations, soe many in Number, and of
soe high a Nature, as they are in themselves most
untrue, soe they cannott but move a just Indignation and high Resentment from the Kingdome of
Scotland concerning this which was proposed. In
the last Place, if any apply these Words to the
Commissioners of the Kingdome of Scotland at London, wee neede say noe more, but that it is a most
false Calumny, and hath noe other Ground then
his owne Ignorance or Malice. If the Lord Digbye's Letters of July and August bee compared with
that Letter of Mr. Jermin's of the 24th of June,
the Busines may seeme to relate to the Carriage
of some Persons in the Scottish Army; which noe
sooner came to our Eares, but wee did speedily acquaint the Estates of the Kingdome of Scotland
therewith, before these Letters were intercepted in
the North; and although the Motion made in Way
of Treaty was not entertained by these Persons, as
may appeare by the intercepted Letters scene by the
Houses; yet were they sent for to Scotland, to bee
examined; which wee did represent to both Houses
of Parliament, and desired from them such Letters
and Papers as might give Light to the Busines, that
the Tryall might bee the more exact: And the
Houses may remember, when that Offer for a Treaty was made by Sir William Fleming, it was detested
and rejected by the Army; all which was made
knowne to both Houses of Parliament, for which
they were pleased, in a Letter to the Generall the
Earle of Loven, to retourne their hearty Thanks;
and although wee would bee silent, some Letters
which were alsoe by a good Providence intercepted doe sufficiently wittnesse the Integrity of that
Army, perticularly that of the 4th of Septemb'r,
communicated unto us upon Tuesday last, wherein
the Lord Digby, speaking in his malignant Sense,
calls our Army, "A Generation, whom, as noe
Duty nor Conscience can restraine, soe noe Applications (of which he sayes, all Sorts were tryed)
could gaine." Wee shall never desire the least Circumstance of this Matter to bee concealed; and doe
desire the Devill who hath beene a Lyer and a Calumniator from the Begining, and all his Instruments bee they never soe crafty and malicious, to
finde out any Ground of the smalest Suspicion against
us; God, our owne Consciences and Actions, bearing us Witnesse of our Integrity: And whosoever
they bee that shall endeavor to cast Aspersions
upon us, wee are confident the Righteousnes of God
and our owne Innocency shall beare us out; and
lett them take Heed, that their malicious Plotts
and Contrivances doe not retourne upon their owne
"Concerning that unknowne Robert Wright, wee
desire that all Meanes bee used for his Discovery,
as in a Matter which very neerly concernes both
Kingdomes; that he may bee brought to answere
for his Accusations, which wee hope the Houses
in Justice will never deny to the Kingdome of Scotland; or if, all possible Meanes being used, he
cannott bee discovered, that his Libells bee noe
more hearkened unto, or produced against us, our
Army, or Kingdome; but that he may bee accompted a Cycophant and Incendiary betweene the Kingdomes.
"And for that Knight whose Name is hitherto concealed, wee desire he may bee knowne by Name,
that he may bee prosecuted as a publique Incendiary, according to the Articles of the large Treaty
betweene the Kingdomes; and this wee certainly
expect from the Justice of the Honnorable Houses
towards their Brethren, according to our mutuall Covenant, that he may receive his condigne Censure, to
the Terror of others; wee may bee freed from all Matters of Suspicion or Jealousy; and a good Correspondence, against all such Suggestions and Misinformations,
may bee still kept betwixt the Kingdomes, till the
greate Worke in Hand bee brought to the wished
"And soe farre are wee for the present necessitated
to ascert the Truth from our owne Hearts and Actions, and to vindicate the Honnor and Reputation
of those that have intrusted us, then which on Earth
nothing can bee dearer unto us.
"By Commaund of the Commissioners for the Parliament of Scotland.
24 Janu. 1646/5.
House adjourned till 10a
Monday Morning next.