DIE Veneris, 27 Februarii.
PRAYERS, by Dr. Gouge.
Comes Manchester, Speaker.
L. Viscount Say & Seale.
E. of Manchester continued Speaker.
Ordered, That the Earl of Manchester shall be
Speaker of this House for Two Months longer.
Sir W. Russell & al. and Lenthall & al.
Upon reading the Petition of Sir Wm. Russell Knight
and Baronet, and Wm. Geere, &c.
It is Ordered, That the Petitioners do deposit the
Seven Hundred and Fifty Pounds in the Hands of the
Clerk of the Parliament, to remain there until the
Judges shall deliver their Opinions, whether a Prohibition ought to be granted or not; and the Execution
against their Goods to be staid, and all further Proceedings before the said Delegates in the mean Time
may also cease.
Mr. Clerk to have Reparation for his Losses, from the E. of North'ton.
Upon reading the Petition of Charles Clarke Esquire;
complaining, "That he hath suffered much for his
adhering to the Parliament, and hath had his Woods
cut down, by Warrant of the Earl of Northampton;
therefore desires Reparations, for that Part of his
Loss only which he hath sustained in his Woods,
out of the Earl of North'ton's Estate."
It is Ordered, To be recommended to the House
of Commons, that when the Earl of North'ton shall
have made his Composition, that the said Mr. Clarke
may have Satisfaction for the Loss of his Wood, out
of the said Composition.
Report of the Conference about the Propositions.
The Speaker reported the Matter of the Conference
with the House of Commons Yesterday, concerning
the Clause added in the 5th Proposition; and they
adhere as it was brought by them, without that Clause,
for these Reasons:
"1. Because this Clause ["in Pursuance of"]
will be subject to uncertain Constructions and
Variety of Interpretations, from all those that
shall be interessed in these Propositions; (videlicet), the King, the both Houses of Parliament, and the Kingdom of Scotland; and
may prejudice the Freedom which is fit to be
in the Parliament: For the perfecting of what
is already begun in this Matter of Religion
and Church Government, this House doth
intend to prosecute and pursue that which
already is agreed upon by both Houses of
Parliament, notwithstanding they cannot conceive it safe to insert in the Propositions, in respect of the King or others that are or may
be interested in these Propositions.
"2. That what hath been already passed by Ordinance or Votes of both Houses of Parliament, wherein the chief and essential Parts in
Matters of Religion and Church Government are agreed, doth sufficiently shew what
Kind of Reformation in Religion (fn. *) they do
desire; and to determine and ascertain any
Thing which is futurely to be done by both
Houses, otherwise than what shall be agreed
by both Houses of Parliament, will put it
upon the Inconveniencies before alledged.
"3. The Third Reason, we conceive, is already
answered; that the House of Commons hath
been, and is, so desirous to make all Things
concerning Religion and Church Government to be certain, that, having formerly sent
divers Votes concerning the same unto your
Lordships, whereupon they have received no
Answer, and resolving to finish and perfect
the whole with all possible Speed, they conceive this Addition fit to be left out, in regard, with your Lordships speedy Concurrence, they are hopeful to have the Particulars themselves yet remaining, ready to be
presented unto the King: And to this Proposition, as it was sent up by them to your
Lordships, they desire your Lordships speedy
Concurrence; the House of Commons being
of Opinion, that the Delay of the Propositions
for a safe and well-grounded Peace will be
very prejudicial to the Kingdoms."
The House was adjourned into a Committee during
Pleasure, to take this Business into Consideration.
And after Debate, the House was resumed.
And it is put to the Question, "Whether to adhere to the Addition of this Clause, (videlicet,)
["In Pursuance of that which is already agreed upon by both Houses of Parliament"]?
And it was Resolved in the Negative.
Ordered, To let the House of Commons know,
That this House agrees with them in the leaving out
of this Clause; and desire that the Propositions, as
they are now agreed upon, may be communicated to the
Order from the H. C. about L. Savill declaring himself to a Committee.
Next, the House took into Consideration the Order
brought up from the House of Commons, concerning
the Lord Savill's declaring himself to a Committee,
touching the Business of his Contempt.
The House was adjourned into a Committee of the
whole House, to debate it.
The House being resumed;
This Question was put, "Whether the Order of
this House concerning the Lord Savill shall be
first put to the Question?"
And the Votes were even.
"Another Question was put, "Whether to adhere to the former Order of this House concerning the Lord Savill, as it was sent down
to the House of Commons?"
And it was Resolved in the Affirmative.
Chamberlain and Nicholls.
Ordered, That the Cause between Mr. Chamberlaine
and Mr. Nicolls shall be heard on Saturday come Sevennight.