DIE Mercurii, 13 die Maii.
PRAYERS, by Mr. Taylor.
Comes Manchester, Speaker.
Levett to be Instituted to Ashwell;
Ordered, That Sir Nath. Brent shall give Institution and Induction to Richard Levett, to the Rectory of
Ashwell, in the County of Rutland; having received a
Presentation by the Great Seal of England.
and Poole to Weston upon Trent.
Ordered, That Sir Nath. Brent shall give Institution and Induction to Edward Poole Minister, to the
Rectory of Weston upon Trent, in the County of Derby;
being presented thereunto by Tho. Stych, of Newberry, in the Parish of Barking, in the County of Essex,
Ld. Mohun bailed.
"Warwicke D'nus Mohun tenetur D'no Regi
"Joh'es Harman, de London, Ironmonger, ct Abraham Taylor de eadem Civitate Merchant, Manuceptores proprædicto Warwicke D'no Mohun, tenentur D'no dicto Regi, viz. uterque eorum separatim in
"The Condition of the abovesaid Recognizance is,
That Warwicke Lord Mohun shall not go further than
Twenty Miles from the Line of Communication; and
shall appear before this House within Two Days
(fn. *) after Summons left at his House or Lodging, or
Notice given to (fn. †) himself."
Ordinance for Mr. Spinkes to be Minister of Castor.
An Ordinance was brought in this Day, for making
Mr. Spinkes Minister of Castor, in the County of
North'ton; and being read, was approved of, and Ordered to be sent to the House of Commons for Concurrence.
Message from the H. C. for a Conference about disposing of the King's Person.
A Message was brought from the House of Commons,
by Sir John Danvers Knight:
To desire a Conference, so soon as it may stand with
their Lordships Convenience, concerning the Matter of
the late Conference, touching the disposing of the Person of the King as both Houses shall think fit.
The Answer returned was:
That this House hath appointed to give a present
Conference, in the Painted Chamber, as is desired.
Ld. Chancellor of Scotland going to return thither.
The Earl of Manchester reported, "That the Lord
Chancellor of Scotland hath signified to the Committee of both Kingdoms, that he had received Command from the Commissioners of the Estates of Scotland to make his speedy Repair to them; and before
he goes, he desires the Houses (fn. *) may know of his
going, that so, if he might receive any Thing as
might tend to the Good of both Kingdoms, he will
faithfully improve with all the Care he can."
Thanks of the House to be sent to him.
Ordered, That the Speaker shall let the Lord
Chancellor know, from this House, "That their Lordships do set a high Value upon his Merits and good
Services which he hath shewed to this Kingdom; and
to give him Thanks for his Expressions reported this
Day; and that this House doth wish him a good
Upon reading the Petition of Wm. Palmer: It is Ordered, That Mr. Justice Reeve and Mr. Justice Pheasant shall certify to this House the true State of the Business, that so this House may give further Direction
The House of Commons being come in the Painted
Chamber, the House was adjourned during Pleasure,
and the Lords went to the Conference; which being
ended, the House was resumed.
The Speaker reported the Effect of the Conference:
Report of the Conference on the Vote about disposing of the King's Person.
"That Mr. Lisle, at the Conference, said,
"That the House of Commons had taken the Vote
wherein formerly they desired our Concurrence, and
the Answer of the Lords, into their serious Consideration; and, upon Debate, had resolved to adhere
to their Vote as formerly delivered to us.
"In the First Place they observe, That the Answer
of the Lords is a bare Negative, and no Reasons
offered to induce them to alter their Opinion.
"Such a Negative Answer, they hold not to be
usual in the Proceedings of Parliament; and they
conceive it very inconvenient: For if One House
may give a Negative Answer without any Reasons
offered, the other House may adhere without giving
Reasons for the same; and so the Houses will have
no clear Understanding of the Grounds of each other's
"The Reasons why the House of Commons
adhere to their Vote are,
"Because they conceive it an undoubted Right,
That the King cannot be disposed of in England, but by the Parliament of England.
"This Right hath been now claimed; and if the
Claim should be deserted, both Houses would
be thought to quit their Interest in the
"It is not only a Right, but it would not be
honourable for the Parliament if He should
not be demanded; for it would be very unsafe for the King to be in an Army in England,
where His Personal Presence may have an ill
Influence upon them.
"The Scotts Army are paid by the Parliament of
England; and therefore whatsoever comes in
their Power, that of Right belongs to this
Kingdom, ought to be delivered by them to
"Your Lordships are concerned by a higher Interest to make this Demand, which is, by the
Solemn League and Covenant; this being so
great and undoubted Right belonging to the
Parliament of England.
"And upon these Reasons they adhere to their
former Vote; and desire their Lordships Concurrence
"Next, Sir John Evelyn said,
"Your Lordships have heard the Sense of the House
of Commons, how much they conceive themselves
concerned in Honour to have this Vote to be passed:
Therefore they hope your Lordships will never depart from bearing your Part in such a Demand. They
will be very unwilling to be necessitated to do this
without your Lordships. Yet, if your Lordships shall
not think fit to agree with them, they shall never
fail to do their Part in making this Demand; it being
a Thing wherein the Parliament and Kingdom is so
The Report being made; the House took into Consideration whether these Words now reported were the
Words as were spoken by Sir John Evelyn at this Conference.
The Words being read;
Question concerning Words spoke by Sir J. Evelyn at this Conference.
This Question was put, "Whether that these Words,
or Words to such Effect, were spoken at the
Conference by Sir John Evelyn?"
And it was generally Agreed to.
Next this Question was put, "Whether, by these
Words, it doth not appear to this House,
that the Sense of these Words are, That in
case their Lordships do not agree with the
House of Commons, that they will do it without them?"
And it was Resolved in the Affirmative.
Ordered, That this Report shall be taken further
into Consideration To-morrow Morning.