House of Lords Journal Volume 8
9 June 1646

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'House of Lords Journal Volume 8: 9 June 1646', Journal of the House of Lords: volume 8: 1645-1647 (1767-1830), pp. 367. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=34048 Date accessed: 24 November 2014.


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DIE Martis, 9 Junii.

PRAYERS, by Mr. Bond.

Comes Manchester, Speaker.

Comes Northumb.
Comes Essex.
Comes Rutland.
Comes Sarum.
Comes Nottingham.
Comes Stamford.
Comes Lyncolne.
Comes Denbigh.
Comes Suffolk.
Comes Warwicke.
Comes Pembrooke.
Ds. North.
Ds. Robertes.
Ds. Mountague.
Ds. Willoughby.
Ds. Bruce.
Ds. Wharton.
Ds. Dacres.
Ds. Hunsden.
Ds. Howard.
Ds. Grey.

Message from the H. C. to expedite the Propositions;

A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Mr. Pierrepont and others:

That he was commanded by the House of Commons to desire a speedy Concurrence to the Propositions to be sent to the King; they look upon the speedy passing of them as the Means most tending to the Happiness of this Kingdom.

and about the Ordinance for raising Forces for Ireland.

2. To put their Lordships in Mind of the Ordinance concerning Ireland, which hath lain a Month in this House, to the Danger of that Kingdom: The House of Commons say, "They having done their Part, if any Danger come to that Kingdom, they must discharge themselves of it."

The Answer returned was:

Answer.

That this House is in Consideration of the Propositions, and of the Ordinance concerning Ireland; and they will (fn. *) send an Answer by Messengers of their own.

Propositions for Peace.

Next, the House took into Consideration the late Conference with the House of Commons, concerning the Propositions for Peace:

And this Vote was read; videlicet,

"That this shall be the Introduction to the First Proposition; videlicet,

["Whereas both Houses of the Parliament of England have been necessitated to undertake a War, in their just and lawful Defence; and afterwards both Kingdoms of England and Scotland, joined in solemn League and Covenant, were engaged to prosecute the same."]

"After the Word ["engaged"], and before the Word ["to"], add these Words ["for the Ends therein expressed"].

The next Vote was read, to which this House agreed, That these Words [" the Parliament of the Kingdom of Scotland"] be added to these Words ["Conventions of Estates"] in the First Proposition.

Next, the Vote concerning the Militia, which both Houses hath agreed on, was read, bearing Date the 4th June, 1646:

"Resolved, by the Lords and Commons assembled in Parliament, That whatsoever Act of Parliament, or Propositions, shall pass, or be agreed on, concerning the Militia of the whole Kingdom, some Clause may be expressed therein to this Effect: ["That this City of London shall have and enjoy all their Rights, Liberties, and Franchises, Customs, and Usages, in the raising and employing the Forces of this City for the Defence thereof, in as full and ample Manner, to all Intents and Purposes, as they have or might have used or enjoyed the same at any Time before the making of the said Act or Proposition"]; to the End this City may be fully assured it is not the Intention of Parliament to take from them any Privileges or Immunities in raising or disposing of their Forces, which they have or might have used or enjoyed heretofore."

Next, this Vote, which came from the House of Commons, was read; videlicet,

"Resolved, &c. That the Militia of the City of London, and Liberties thereof, may be in the Ordering and Government of the Lord Mayor, Aldermen, and Commons, in Common (fn. *) Council assembled, or such as they shall from Time to Time appoint (whereof the Lord Mayor and Sheriffs for the Time being to be Three); to be employed and directed, from Time to Time, in such Manner as shall be agreed on and appointed by both Houses of Parliament; and that this shall be One of the Propositions to be now sent to His Majesty, for a safe and well-grounded Peace."

The Question being put, "Whether this House shall agree to this Vote now read, as it came up from the House-of Commons, with this Addition, ["to be employed and directed, from Time to Time, in such Manner as shall be agreed on and appointed by both Houses of Parliament"]?"

And it was Resolved in the Affirmative.

Next was taken into Consideration the Vote for including the Out-parts within the Power of the Militia of London; which the House of Commons desired may be laid aside for the present, and be respited.

And the Question was put, "Whether this Part of the Proposition, videlicet, ["That the Militia of the Parishes without London, and the Liberties within the Weekly Bills of Mortality, may be under the Command of the Lord Mayor, Aldermen, and Commons, in Common Council, of the said City, to be ordered in such Manner as shall be agreed on and appointed by both Houses of Parliament"] shall be respited for the present, according to the Desire of the House of Commons?"

And it was Resolved in the Affirmative.

The Question being put, "Whether to adhere to the former Vote, for excepting the Earl of Derby out of the First Exception in the Fifteenth Proposition?"

And it was Resolved in the Negative.

Resolved, upon the Question, That this House doth not adhere to the former Vote, of excepting Sir John Strangwaies to be excepted out of the First Exception.

Resolved, upon the Question, That this House doth not adhere to the former Vote, of excepting Sir John Byron to be left out of the First Exception.

Message to the H. C. for the French Ambassador to have Hatton House.

A Message was sent to the House of Commons, by Sir Edward Leech and Mr. Page:

To put them in Mind of providing a House for the French Ambassador, who is coming; and to let them know, that this House thinks Hatton House a fit Place.

Adjourn.

House adjourned till 10a cras.

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* Deest in Originali.