House of Lords Journal Volume 8
12 September 1646

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'House of Lords Journal Volume 8: 12 September 1646', Journal of the House of Lords: volume 8: 1645-1647 (1767-1830), pp. 489-490. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=34100 Date accessed: 31 July 2014.


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DIE Sabbati, 12 Septembris.

Comes Manchester, Speaker.

Comes Warwicke.
Comes Suffolke.
Comes Denbigh.
Comes Stamford.
Comes Rutland.
Ds. Dacres.
Ds. Willoughby.
Ds. Hunsdon.

Answer from the H. C.

Mr. Doctor Aylett and Mr. Doctor Heath return with this Answer from the House of Commons:

1. That they do agree to that Ordinance for Mr. Pennoyer, with Amendments. (Here enter it.)

2. And to that Order for the Earl of Cleveland to have Liberty, for Two Months longer, to remain out of The Tower of London, upon his former Bail. (Here enter it.)

To the City Propositions; to the Sale of the Earl of Worcester's Lands; to that for the Moiety of the Excise for the Western Association; to that for the Moiety of the Excise for the Northern Association; to Mr. Greenhill's Ordinance for the Vicarage of Cuckfeild, in Sussex; they will send an Answer by Messengers of their own.

White to be instituted to Pymperne.

Ordered, That Mr. Doctor Aylett, or his lawful Deputy, are hereby authorized and required, upon Sight of this Order, to give Institution and Induction unto John White Clerk, Master of Arts, to the Rectory of Pymperne, in the Diocese of Bristoll, void by the Death of the late Incumbent, salvo Jure cujuscunque; the said Mr. White producing his Presentation thereunto under the Great Seal of England, being granted by Ordinance of Parliament: And this to be a sufficient Warrant.

Leake to be instituted to Stillington.

Ordered, &c. That Mr. Doctor Aylett, or his lawful Deputy, are hereby authorized and required, upon Sight of this Order, to give Institution and Induction unto George Leake Clerk, Master of Arts, to the Vicarage of Stillington, in the County and Diocese of Yorke, void by the voluntary Cession of Francis Beamont Clerk, late Incumbent, salvo Jure cujuscunque; the said Mr. Leake producing his Presentation thereunto under the Hand and Seal of Phillip Ford Clerk, Master of Arts, the lawful Patron: And this to be a sufficient Warrant, &c.

Message from the H. C. with Propositions for borrowing 200,000l. of the City, and for Committees to go there about it.

A Message from the House of Commons, by Sir Robert Harley and others:

That the House of Commons, finding that there is great Want of Money for the present Service of the State, sent a Committee of theirs to the City of London, to borrow Two Hundred Thousand Pounds, from whom they have received these Propositions, which they have agreed unto, and desire the Lords Concurrence; and that the greater Lustre may be put upon the Business, the House of Commons desire the Lords to name a Committee of their House, that may go into London with the Committee of theirs, this Afternoon, at Three of the Clock, touching the said Business.

The Propositions were read, and Agreed to. (Here enter them.)

Committee for that Purpose.

Lords Committees appointed by this House to go into the City of London, with a Committee of the House of Commons, for the borrowing, of the Lord Mayor, Aldermen, and Common Council of the said City, the Sum of Two Hundred Thousand Pounds for the present and urgent Service of the State, according to their own Propositions; (videlicet,)

E. Rutland.
E. Pembrook.
E. Manchester.
E. Stamford.
L. Dacres.
L. Willoughby.

Their Lordships, and such other Lords now Members of this House going with the Committee of the House of Commons, are to be at Guildhall, London, by Three of the Clock this Afternoon.

Answer returned:

Answer to the H. C.

That this House hath agreed to the Propositions; and have appointed Six of their Members, to go with a Committee of theirs into the City, to be at Guildhall, at Three a Clock this Afternoon.

Reeve to be instituted to Chepstone.

Ordered, That Mr. Doctor Heath, or his lawful Deputy, are hereby authorized and required, upon Sight of this Order, to give Institution and Induction unto Jo. Reeve Clerk, Master of Arts, to the Third Part of the Rectory of the Parish Church of Chepstone, in the County of Northampton, salvo Jure cujuscunque; the said Mr. Reeve producing his Presentation thereunto, under the Hand and Seal of John Wilcockson Gentleman, the lawful Patron: And this to be a sufficient Warrant.

Order to enforce a former one, for Payment of 50 l. per Annum, &c. to Mrs. Dutton, out of the Manor of Standish.

The Petition of Mrs. Frances Dutton was read: And it was Ordered; videlicet,

"Whereas the House hath been informed, by the Petition of Frances Dutton and Charles Herbert her Trustee, exhibted to this House, That the Committee of Gloucester do forbear the Payment of Fifty Pounds per Annum, and the Arrears due to the Petitioners, out of the Manor of Standish, in the County of Gloucester, notwithstanding the Order of this House of the 7th of July, 1641, and that of the 28th of February, 1645, enjoining the same; and whereas also this House hath perused a Letter, or Certificate, of the said Committee, concerning the said Mrs. Dutton, and an Examination of hers touching the Lord John Somersett's Estate, wherein they find no Cause why she should be deprived of the Benefit of the Orders of this House, or they laid by as void Papers: It is Ordered, by the Lords in Parliament assembled, That the said Orders are hereby ratified and confirmed in all Points: And farther it is Ordered, That the said Committee shall, upon Sight of this Order, give their present Obedience thereunto, and likewise pay, or cause to be paid, to the said Petitioners, the growing Rent of Fifty Pounds per Annum, and all the Arrears, out of the Profits of the said Manor of Standish, as now they are due, and ought to have been paid, according to the true Intent and Meaning of the said Orders, and either of them, until the Pleasure of this House be farther signified; any Pretence of the said Committee, certified as aforesaid, notwithstanding: And herein Obedience is required, as the contrary will be answered to this House."

Propositions from the City, for lending 200,000l.

"Commune Concilium tentum in Camerâ Guildhall Civitatis London, nono Die Septembris, 1646.

"This Court, having received a Proposition from the Honourable House of Commons, by a Committee thereof, for the Advance of Two Hundred Thousand Pounds, do humbly return this their Answer:

"That the best Way, in their Opinion, to procure the speedy Advance of the same is,

"That every Person who hath advanced any Money, Plate, or Horses, with their Furniture and Arms, upon the Public Faith, may, for every Sum of Money he shall further lend upon the new Proposition, be secured a like Sum more, out of the Receipts of the Grand Excise, in Course, and the Sale of the Bishops Lands, Impropriations and Advowsons only excepted, which shall first happen, together with Interest after the Rate of Eight Pounds per Centum per Annum, to be paid every Six Months, out of the Receipts of the Excise, till Principal and Interest be fully discharged; as for Example, if there be owing to any Person One Hundred Pounds Principal, which, with Interest due thereupon for Three Years past, will make One Hundred and Twenty-four Pounds, he advancing One Hundred and Twenty-four Pounds more may be secured for the whole Two Hundred and Forty-eight Pounds as aforesaid, and so proportionably for a greater or lesser Sum, and according to the Interest due thereupon: And for the more speedy reimbursing of the said Monies secured and lent upon this new Proposition, that the said Lands of the Bishops be presently enstated and made over unto such Feossees, for the speedy Sale thereof, and such Treasurers for the Receipt of the Monies as may give best Satisfaction to the Lenders.

"And upon the Proposition and Security aforesaid, this Court will contribute their best Endeavours for the raising of the said Two Hundred Thousand Pounds, if the Parliament in their Wisdom shall so think fit."

E. of Cleveland, further Leave.

"Ordered, by the Lords and Commons assembled in Parliament, That the Earl of Cleevland shall have his Liberty for Two Months longer, upon the same Bail whereupon he was formerly enlarged."

Ordinance for Sale of the E. of Worcester's Lands, for Satisfaction of a Debt due to Pennoyer and Hill.

"Whereas, by Ordinance of the 4th of November last, the respective Committees for Sequestration in the Cities of London, Westm'r, and Liberties thereof, and of the County of Midd. were ordered to give Direction to the several Officers employed by them, to pay the Rents and Profits of the Lands and Tenements of the Earl of Worcester, Lord Herbert, and Sir John Sommersett, in Acton, The Strand, Towerstreete, and Stepney, or elsewhere in the said Cities of London, Westm. and Liberties, and County of Midd. unto Mr. Pennoyer and Richard Hill, Merchants, from the 29th of September then past, upon Accompt, towards their Payment of a Debt of Nine Thousand Four Hundred and Two Pounds, Five Shillings; upon which Ordinance, nevertheless, no considerable Sum hath been, or can be, suddenly raised, many of the Houses being out of Repair, and the Tenants very poor Men: The Lords and Commons, for the more speedy Satisfaction of the said Debt, do therefore Ordain and Declare, and be it hereby Ordained and Declared by the Authority aforesaid, That the Lands, Tenements, Houses, and Hereditaments, of or belonging to the said Earl of Worcester, and unto the Lord Harbert and Sir John Som'sett his Sons, situate as aforesaid, be, for their Treasons and Offences, put to Sale to any Person or Persons that shall desire to purchase the same: And to the End the said Lands and Premises may be sold to the best Advantage of the State, the Committee for the King, Queen, and Prince's Revenue are hereby authorized and required, with all convenient Speed, to cause the same to be surveyed, and, upon such Survey, to appoint the Auditors of the Prests, and Auditors of the Rates, to make forth such Particular or Particulars thereof as they shall direct; and thereupon to contract and agree with such Person or Persons, for such Estate or Estates, and at such Rates and Prices, as they shall think fit; and to report the said Contracts and Agreements unto both Houses of Parliament, for their Approbation and Allowance thereof; and that, out of the Monies to be raised and received for the said Lands and Premises, the said William Pennoyer and Richard Hill, and their Assigns, shall in the First Place be paid and satisfied their said Debt, and every Part thereof; and that the Remainder of the said Monies, after the said Debt shall be satisfied, be paid and disposed as both Houses of Parliament shall direct: Provided always, That this Ordinance, or any Thing therein contained, shall not extend to the Sale of the Mansion-house commonly called Worcester House, in The Strand, with the Gardens, Stables, and Out-houses belonging to the said Dwelling-house; any Thing in this Ordinance to the contrary in any Wise notwithstanding."

Adjourn.

Adjourn, 10 Tuesday Morning next.