House of Lords Journal Volume 8
14 October 1646


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'House of Lords Journal Volume 8: 14 October 1646', Journal of the House of Lords: volume 8: 1645-1647 (1767-1830), pp. 521. URL: Date accessed: 23 October 2014.


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DIE Mercurii, 14 die Octobris.

PRAYERS, by Mr. Sallawey.

Comes Manchester, Speaker.

Comes Kent.
Comes Sarum.
Comes Warwicke.
Comes Midd.
Comes Nottingham.
Comes Suffolke.
Comes Stamford.
Comes Lyncolne.
Comes Northumb.
Ds. Dacres.
Ds. Grey.
Ds. Hunsden.
Ds. North.
Ds. Willoughby.
Ds. Howard.

Answer from the H. C.

Sir Edward Leech and Mr. Page return with this Answer from the House of Commons:

That they will meet, at a Conference, this Morning, at Ten a Clock, as is desired; and they give Concurrence in the referring the Hearing of the Commissioners from Ireland to the Members of both Houses that are of the Committee of both Kingdoms: As to the Petition of the Lady Marquess of Winton, they will send an Answer by Messengers of their own.

Ordinance to appoint Heralds.

An Ordinance was brought into this House this Day, for making of new Heralds, in their Places as are dead; which being read, was committed to the Consideration of these Lords following:

Comes Warwicke.
Comes Kent.
Comes Sarum.
Comes Suffolke.
Comes Rutland.
Comes Midd.
Ds. Willoughby.
Ds. North.
Ds. Grey.
Ds. Dacres.

Sir J. Gaire Lord Mayor presented.

This Day Sir John Gaire Knight, being accompanied with the Aldermen and Sheriffs of the City of London, was presented to this House.

And Mr. Recorder made a Speech to this Effect:

"That he was commanded, in the Name of the City of London, to present Sir John Geirre Knight, chosen to be Lord Mayor of the City of London for the next Year: By their Charters he was to be presented to the King for Approbation; but, by Practice and the Constitution of this Kingdom, he is to be presented to this Honourable House, where, though His Majesty is not resident in Person, yet present in Authority: Therefore the City of London desires their Lordships Approbation of the said Sir John Geires."

After this, all the Company withdrew.

And the House taking it into Consideration; Ordered, That this Answer should be returned to them; videlicet,

Approved of.

"The Answer of the Lords in Parliament to the Lord Mayor Elect, after he was presented for an Approbation from the City of London.

"My Lords have commanded me to declare unto (fn. *) you, That they do very well approve and confirm the Choice of Sir John Geire Alderman, to be Lord Mayor Elect of the City of London, in respect of the great Confidence they have in the Famous City of London, that they would not put such an eminent Stamp of Honour, and of intrusting him with so great a Power and Authority, upon any of whose Fitness and Fidelity they were not well assured.

"And their Lordships have commanded me to return you hearty Thanks for the Continuance of the many real Testimonies of Faithfulness which upon all Occasions you have manifested unto this Parliament: And they assure you, that they will be ever ready to their uttermost to express their Care of, and their Respects unto, the City of London, which hath particularly expressed their good Affections for the Preservation of the Honour of this House, and the Safety and Public Welfare of this Kingdom."

The Lord Mayor, Aldermen, and Recorder, were called in again: And the Speaker of this House read the abovesaid Answer to them.

Pierpoint's Order.

The Order for Mr. Peirrepont to be Executor of his Father, was read, and Agreed to, with an Amendment; and Ordered to be sent to the House of Commons, for their Concurrence therein.

Ordinance for Payment of Dover and Chatham Garrisons.

The Ordinance for Payment of the Garrisons of Dover and Chatham, was read Twice, and committed to the Consideration of these Lords following:

Comes Suffolk.
Comes Stamford.
Comes Midd.
Comes Northumb.
Comes Warwicke.

Any Three, to meet To-morrow Morning, at Nine a Clock.

Countess of Shrewsbury's Petition.

The Countess of Shrewsburie's Petition was read; desiring "some Relief for herself and her Children;" and Ordered to be specially recommended to the House of Commons.

Sir Francis Knowles's Ordinance.

An Ordinance concerning Sir Francis Knowles Knight, was read; and Ordered to be committed to the same Committee as the Ordinance for Dover and Chatham Garrison: To meet To-morrow Morning.

H. C. send to Colonel Massey, to disband the Forces.

Information was given to this House, "That the House of Commons have sent down, to disband the Forces, to Colonel Massie."

It is Ordered, That it be taken into Consideration To-morrow Morning, against which Time the Ordinances concerning those Forces are to be sought out.

Conference about the Commissioners of the Great Seal.

The House was adjourned during Pleasure, and the Lords went to the Conference with the House of Commons; which being ended, the House was resumed.

It is Ordered, That the Report of this Conference shall be made To-morrow Morning.

Alderman Fowkes and the E. I. Co.

Ordered, That Alderman Foukes's Cause shall be deferred till Friday Morning, whereof Notice is to be given to both Sides.

Order for 500 l. to Mr. Westrow.

"Whereas the Sum of Five Hundred Pounds hath been taken up, upon the Security of Thomas Westrow Esquire, for the paying of the Garrison of Dover Castle, which Money was received by John Boys, Lieutenant of that Castle, accordingly: It is this Day Ordained, by the Lords and Commons assembled in Parliament, That Five Hundred Pounds be paid in Course, with Interest for the same, after the Rate of Eight Pounds per Centum, from this Day, out of the Receipt of the Excise, by the Ordinance of the 11th of September, 1643, be paid again unto the said Thomas Westrowe, whose Receipt shall be a sufficient Discharge to the Commissioners of the Excise for the Time being; and this Five Hundred Pounds to be imprested upon the Accompt of the said John Bois."


House adjourned till 10a cras.


* Deest in Originali.