DIE Martis, 20 die Octobris.
PRAYERS.
Comes Manchester, Speaker.
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Comes Northumb. Comes Kent. Comes Denbigh. Comes Pembrooke. Comes Warwicke. Comes Stamford. Comes Sarum. Comes Nottingham. Comes Midd. Comes Moulgrave. Comes Lyncolne. |
Ds. Howard. Ds. Robertes. Ds. North. Ds. Bruce. Ds. Grey. Ds. Willoughby. Ds. Hunsden. |
Batten to continue V. Adm and Commander in Chief of the Fleet, and to command The Leopard.
The Earl of Warwicke reported a Paper from the
Committee of the Admiralty and Cinque Ports; which
was read:
"Die Jovis, 15 Octob. 1646.
"Whereas The St. Andrew, under Command of
Captain Wm. Batten, Vice Admiral and Commander
in Chief of the Fleet for the last Summer's Expedition, is now called into Chatham; and forasmuch
as this Committee conceives, that of the Ships appointed for the Winter Guard, The Leopard, which
hath been under Command of Captain Henry Bethell
for the Summer's Service, is fittest for Captain Batten
to continue his Charge in, as Vice Admiral and Commander in Chief: Ordered, That the said Captain
Batten be presented to both Houses, for their approving him to continue Vice Admiral and Commander in Chief of the Fleet, in the said Ship The
Leopard, for this Winter's Expedition.
"W. Jessop, Secretary."
Ordered, That this House (fn. *) agrees to this Report;
and that it be sent to the House of Commons for their
Consent.
Next, was read a Letter from the Scotts Commissioners; videlicet,
Letter from the Scots Commissioners, with Papers, concerning the Dispotal of the King's Person, and the marching of their Army Home, &c.
"For the Right Honorable the Speaker of the
House of Peeres pro Tempore.
Right Honorable,
"We doe herewith present to the Honorable
Houses Two Papers, in Answere to their Votes of
the 24th of September, wherein we have contributed
our best Endeavours to come to a speedy Agreement in the great Affaires now in Agitation, and to
proceede and continue a firme Correspondency betweene the Kingdomes; and wee cannot but promise
to ourselves that we shall meete with the same
Affections in the Honorable Houses, that, all Differences being determined, and all just Desires satisfied, these Kingdomes may still remaine in a sweete
Concord and brotherly Conjunction, then which
nothinge can be more acceptable to
"Your Lordships most humble Servants,
Worcester House, the 20th of October, 1646.
Loudon. Lauderdaill.
W. Ihonston. Charles Erskine.
Hew Kennedy. Ro. Barclay.
The Papers were read. (Here enter them.)
Mortimer to attend as Serjeant of the Revenue.
The Petition of Mortimer was read; and
Ordered, That it be recommended to the House of
Commons, that he may (fn. *) be appointed to attend as
Serjeant of the Revenue.
E. of Mulgrave takes his Seat.
This Day Edmund Earl of Moulgrave sat first in this
House as a Peer of this Realm, succeeding Edmound Earl
of Moulgrave his Grandfather, lately deceased.
Paper from the Scots Commissioners, concerning their Army marching Home, on the Money being provided.
The First Paper of the Scotts Commissioners was read;
concerning the marching out of the Scotts Army, and
providing the Money.
And it is referred to these Lords following, to consider
of this Paper, and then to speak with the Scotts Commissioners, and to endeavour to bring the said Business
to a Conclusion; and that the House of Commons be
sent to, and desired to appoint a Committee of their
House, to join with the Committee of this House:
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Comes Northumb. Comes Kent. Comes Pembrooke. Comes Sarum. Comes Warwicke. Comes Manchester. |
Comes Mulgrave. Comes Denbigh. Ds. North. Ds. Robertes. Ds. Howard. Ds. Willoughby. |
Any Five, to meet To-morrow in the Afternoon,
at Three of the Clock, in the Painted Chamber;
and when after they please.
Seal belonging to the Marches of Wales, to be kept with the others brought from Oxford.
The Lord Howard reported, "That the Committee
at Haberdashers Hall having Occasion to send into
Wales, to search for some Papers there, there was
found the Seal formerly belonging to the Marches of
Wales, being Gold: And it being delivered to them,
it was thought fit to be presented to this House."
Hereupon it is Ordered, That the said Seal be
kept with the other Seals as were brought from Oxford;
and that the House of Commons be made acquainted
therewith, how it came into this House, and where it
is to be disposed of.
Ordinance for Squibb and Riley to be Kings at Arms.
An Ordinance was brought in, for the making of
Arthur Squibb Esquire to be Clarencieux King of Arms,
and Wm. Ryley Esquire to be Norroy King of Arms.
Which being read;
The Question being put, "Whether to agree to
this Ordinance?"
It was Resolved in the Affirmative.
Message to the H. C. about it.
A Message was sent to the House of Commons, by
Doctor Aylett and Doctor Health:
1. To desire their Concurrence to the Ordinance for
making the Two Heralds; and desire Expedition therein, that so they may perform their Places at the Funeral of the Earl of Essex.
about the Seal belonging to the Marches of Wales;
2. To let them know how the Seal of the Marches
of Wales was brought into this House; and that their
Lordships desire their Concurrence, that the same may
be kept with the rest of the Seals which (fn. *) were brought
from Oxford.
March. of Winton's Petition;
3. To put them in Mind of the Lady Marques of
Winton's Petition.
for Committees to meet, about the Papers from the Scots Commissioners.
4. To let them know, that this House hath received
Papers from the Scotch Commissioners; and this House
hath appointed a Committee of Twelve Lords, to join
with a proportionable Number of the House of Commons, to endeavour to put in speedy Execution the
Desires contained in the First Paper delivered this Day
from the Scotts Commissioners in Answer to the Votes of
both Houses of the 24th of September, 1646; and to
confer with the said Commissioners, and to come to
some Conclusion touching the said Paper; and afterwards the Members of both Houses to make Report respectively.
and with an Ordinance, &c.
5. To desire Concurrence in the Order concerning
Captain Batten.
6. To recommend to (fn. †) them Mr. Mortimer's Petition.
Message from the H. C. for the Conference about the Commissioners of the Great Seal.
A Message was brought from the House of Commons,
by Sir Rob't Harley Knight:
To desire a Free Conference, so soon as it may stand
with their Lordships Conveniency, touching the late
Conference concerning the Ordinance for the Commissioners of the Great Seal of England.
The Answer returned was:
Answer.
That this House appoints a Free Conference, in the
Painted Chamber, presently, as is desired.
Ly. Mary Fielding & al. a Pass to France.
Ordered, That the Lady Mary Feilding, with Doctor Mester, Mrs Mary Howitt, and Mary Freeman, shall
have a Pass, to go into France.
Alderman Fowkes and the E. I. Co.
Ordered, That the Cause of Mr. Alderman Foukes,
against the India Company, shall be put off till Tuesday
next.
Sir H. Mildmay's Claim.
Ordered, That the Cause of Sir Henry Mildmay
shall be heard the Thursday next after the next Term.
Poole sent for, for preventing Boilston's Induction to the Church of Weston upon Trent.
Upon reading an Affidavit, "That Mr. Everard
Poole, being required to permit that John Boilston,
Batchelor in Divinity, be inducted into the Parish
Church of Weston upon Trent, in the County of Derby,
according to an express Order of the Lords, being
dated 24 Septemb. 1646; the said Poole absolutely refused, affirming "that he had a Presentation unto the
Rectory of Weston aforesaid from Mr. Stitch, in the County
of Essex; it was answered, "That Mr. Stitch was a
Recusant." To this Poole replied, "That Mr. Stitch
was no Recusant." And when it was told him, "That
the House of Lords assembled in Parliament had, upon
good Grounds, declared Mr. Stitch a Convict Recusant
in their Order above mentioned; " the said Mr. Poole
replied hereunto, "What care I what the Lords have
declared in this Case?" And being urged, "that this
was a very high and strange Reply;" he again replied in these Words, "I care not what the Lords
have declared against Law".
It is Ordered, That the said Mr. Poole shall be sent
for as a Delinquent, to answer this Contempt to the
Honour of this House.
The Lords went to the Conference with the House
[ (fn. *) of Commons]; and the House was adjourned into a
Committee during Pleasure.
The House being resumed;
Report of the Conference about the Ordinance concerning the Commissioners of the Great Seal.
The Speaker reported the Effect of this Conference;
which was, "That they do not agree that the Four
Persons sent down to them from this House be made
Commissioners of the Great Seal of England; but do
desire those Three sent up from the House of Commons may only stand, because their Lordships have
agreed to them; and they think that Three Persons
are a competent Number for that Business, because it
will ease the State of a Charge.
And as concerning the Proviso touching the Incapacity which will be put upon the Persons from being
made Assistants to this House, if it should be thought
fit; they conceive it will not put an Incapacity upon
Men, but intended because they should not have any
Dependence upon either Houses; and therefore think
it not fit."
The House taking this Matter into Debate;
The Question was put, "Whether to adhere to
that Resolution which was delivered formerly to the House of Commons, at a Conference, concerning the Commissioners of the
Great Seal of England?"
And it was Resolved in the Affirmative.
Committee to prepare an Answer to the H. C. about it.
The Earl of Lyncolne, the Lord Willoughby, the Lord
North, and the Lord Robertes, were appointed to draw
up the Matter to be returned to the House of Commons in Answer to the Matter of the last Conference.
The Lord Robertes reported what the Committee had
prepared, in Answer to the last Conference; which
being read, was approved of. (Here enter it.)
Lords to attend the Funeral of the E. of Essex in their Robes.
Ordered, That all the Lords shall meet on Thursday Morning, to go to the Funeral of the Earl of
Essex; and meet at Essex House, at Ten of the Clock.
Ordered, That those Peers that can provide Robes
for themselves may be present at the Funeral of the
Earl of Essex; those that have not Time may be absent if they please.
Answer to the H C. about the Conference on the Ordinance concerning the Commissioners of the Great Seal.
As to the Number of Three, my Lords do not
conceive it a competent Number; the Houses having
formerly put it into Six, which they would not have
done if Three would have served.
That, having so long since sent the Ordinance to
them, the Lords agreed to their Three with those
named by them, as being the fairest Invitation to accord the Houses in the naming of the Commissioners,
especially there being no Exception against the Persons named by their Lordships; and this being the
only Way (as they conceive) in such Cases, they hope
their Agreement of their Names will not otherwise
be made Use of, especially the Ordinance remaining
with that House so long.
As to the Charge of having Seven, their Lordships
think (so Justice be duly observed) the Cost is well
bestowed; yet, if the House of Commons think the
Number of Seven too many, they may take the
Four Persons named by the Lords only.
As to the Proviso, my Lords adhere, not to admit
it, which doth put an Incapacity upon the Commissioners for being Assistants in the Lords House; which
though it be more than probable it will not be, yet
they understand not the Inconvenience if they were,
the Great Seal having been in former Times, by the
Chancellor of England, or the Keepers thereof, residing in the Lords House, and all the Judges of the
Realm Assistants there, whereby Justice hath not been
obstructed, but farthered; nor can their Presence be
wrested farther than the Nature of Assistants are,
having yielded to the lessening of their Power in
Justices of Peace and Presentations.
"Wherefore my Lords desire the Dispatch of this
Business, that, having yielded to the Persons named
by them as abovesaid, to the limiting of their Powers,
these named by them having no Exception against
them, that no farther (fn. *) Observation of the Seal may
be, wherein the Lords have (fn. *) acquainted themselves
in Time and Matter."
Paper from the Scots Commissioners, in Answer to the Votes of both Houses of the 24th of Sept. concerning the withdrawing of their Army on Receipt of the Money due;—and desiring Supplies may be sent to it.
"Haveing received the Votes of the Honnorable
Houses of the 24th of September, declareing, That
whatsoever Conferrence, Consultation, or Debate,
shall be with the Commissioners of Scotland, concerning the Disposall of the Person of the King, it
shall not bee understood to bee any Capitulation to
the Retarding of the March of the Scotts Army out
of this Kingdome, or of any Treaty betweene the
Kingdomes concerning the same; and being desired to give our Answere hereunto before wee entered upon the Conferrence: As wee did then, soe
wee doe now againe declare, that our Conferrence,
Consultation, or Debate, with the Honnorable Houses,
concerning the Disposall of the Person of the Kinge, shall
not retard nor bee any Hindrance to the March of the
Scottish Army out of this Kingdome, or to any Treaty
concerning the same. And that it may bee manifest
how sensible wee are of the unnecessary Burthens
continued upon this Kingdome by keepinge Armyes
on Foote after the Warre is at End, and that it may
fully and cleerly appeare how really it is desired by
the Scottish Army (fn. †) that without Delay they may
march out of this Kingdome with the same Affection
and Cheerfullnes that they came in for the Assistance
of their Brethren, and to the End all Jealousyes or
Misunderstandings of our Intentions may bee removed; wee doe further Declare, That wee are
willing and ready to meete with such as the Honnorable Houses shall appoint, and within 24 Houres to
agree concerning the Tyme and Place of the Payment
of the First 200,000£. and the Security to bee given for
the other, and to appoint a Day wherein our Forces
shall march out of the Toune and Castle of Newcastle,
out of Tinmouth Castle, Hartlepoole, Stockton, Thirlewall, and all other Places within this Kingdome (Berwick and Carlile beinge disposed of according to the
respective Treatyes betweene the Kingdomes), and
likewise for marching of our Army out of this Kingdome, which, in regard the Winter doth fast approach, and for other important Reasons, wee earnestly desire may bee with all possible Expedition;
and for this End, that the Money may bee speedily
sent unto them; for the sooner they shall receive it,
the more acceptable it will bee, and give the greater
Sattisfaction, and the impoverished and exhausted
Country wil bee the sooner eased: And since the
Cause of their Stay and Continuance in this Kingdome is not upon their Part, and that for theise Six
Moneths past they have received noe Pay, whereby
they are exceedingly straitned in their Quarters, and
the Northerne Parts where they remaine greatly overburthened, wee doe earnestly intreate that, in the
meane Tyme (with the 5000£. at Nottingham already
accompted unto them), some competent Proportion of
Money may bee sent to the Army, for their necessary
Entertainment; or otherwise they wil bee forced to
enlarge their Quarters, for the Ease of the Country:
In all which wee are the more desireous to come to
a Close, that within few Dayes some of our Number must repaire to the Scottish Army, and from
thence to the Parliament of Scotland (which is to sitt
the Second of November next), to give an Accompt
of our Proceedings. And therefore wee doe earnestly
intreate the speedy Answere of the Honnorable
Houses.
20 October. 1646.
By Comaund of the Commissioners for the Parliament of Scotland.
"Jo. Cheislie."
Paper from them, in Answer to the Votes of both Houses of the 24th Sept. concerning the Disposal of the King's Person.
"Haveing received the Votes of both Houses, dated
the 24th of September, concerning the disposeing of
the King's Person as both Houses of Parliament shall
thinke fitt; although wee judge (as in Charity wee
ought) that it is not the Meaneing and Intention of the
Honnorable Houses to clayme or assume to themselves
the whole and sole Power to dispose of His Majesty's
Person, which is knowne to bee a Matter, as of high,
soe of common and equall Concernment to both Kingdomes: Yet, least by our Silence the Right and Interest of the Kingdome of Scotland should bee prejudiced, and least that Sence of those Votes which many
have apprehended and expressed should minister Occasion of Misunderstandinge and Difference betweene
the Kingdomes, according to the Desires and Hopes
of our common Enemyes; wee have judged it necessary, with that Freedome, Candor, and Plaines, which
becometh Brethren, to represent our Thoughts concerning this greate Busines to both Houses.
Wee doe acknowledge, That, as positively the
Houses of Parliament have as much Power in disposeing of the King's Person as any other Parliament hath
or can have to dispose of a Kinge who hath more free
Kingdomes then One; soe negatively none ought, or
may dispose of His Majesty's Person without or against
their Consent: The like wee suppose will bee mutually acknowledged in Referrence to the Parliament of
Scotland; it being a fundamentall Right and Liberty
of either Kingdome, that none can justly (without
their owne Consent) impede or restraine the Person
of their Kinge from comeing amongest them, and doeing the Dutyes of a Kinge unto them; and in both
these Sences wee acquiesse in the Vote of the Honnorable Houses.
But if the Vote should be meant or made Use of as
restrictive to the Parliament of England, and exclufive of the Parliament of Scotland, or as if the Two
Houses were to dispose of the Person of the Kinge by
their single and soe Authority, without the Consent and Concurrence of the Kingdome of Scotland;
wee trust this Sence is as farre from the Thoughts of
both Houses as it is from Justice and Equity, the Parliament of Scotland haveinge as much Interest in the
Person of the King of Scotland, as the Parliament of
England hath in the Person of the Kinge of England;
and the Person being but One, both Kingdomes must
needs share equally in that joynt Interest; neither
hath the Parliament of England any more Power to
dispose of the Person of the King of Scotland being
in England, then the Parliament of Scotland hath to
dispose of the Person of the King of England if he
were in Scotland: And as the Parliament of England
might justly conceive their Interest and Power to be
greatly prejudiced if the Parliament of Scotland should
clayme the sole Power to dispose of His Majesty's
Person being in Scotland (and consequently, if they
shall soe thinke fitt, to restraine His Person from
comeing to His Houses of Parliament when the necessary Affaires of this Kingdome require His Presence); soe wee cannot but in Justice expect to bee
dealt with by the Honnorable Houses as they would
have us in like Cases to deale with them.
Although what wee have now expressed might bee
sufficient as to our Sence of the Vote, yet it shall not
bee superfluous, but very expedient, that wee further
cleere ourselves and our reall Intentions in that which
wee first offered in our Paper the 11th of August, concerning a joynt Consultation and Resolution of both
Kingdomes what is next to bee done in Referrence to
the King; which Motion wee now resume to bee
still insisted upon: For the Question is not, whether
the Houses of Parliament, or the Scotts Army shall
dispose of the Person of the King in England; our
Army claymeth noe Power to dispose of His Majesty's
Person; and as they could not refuse to receive Him
when He came amongest them, soe they are ready to
obey and submitt to the joynt Resolutions of both
Kingdomes concerning His Majesty: Neither is the
Question, which of the Two Kingdomes shall trust
the other with the present Residence of the King's
Person 'till He bee disposed of by the Consent and
Agreement of both. Lett it bee farre from both
Kingdomes that the former mutuall Confidence should
now turne to a mutuall Diffidence; and lett not a
Blessing from Heaven bee expected upon either of the
Nations which continueth not faithfull to the other
according to the Covenant. Our Confidence in the
Wisdome, Justice, Loyalty, and Faithfullnes of the
Honnorable Houses is such, that, whensoever the Kinge
shal bee willing to retourne unto them, and they willing to receive Him, wee shall not make the least Impediment, but give our cheerfull Consent. Least of all
is the Question concerning any Priviledge or Power
of the Parliament of England, or any Lawe, Liberty,
or Practise of this Kingdome, to dispose of their Kinge.
It is not our Meaning to controvert what in that Kinde
they may doe, or at any Tyme have done, according
to their Lawes (which are best knowne to themselves), for their Good and Safety, without the least
Shaddowe of any Dependency upon annother Kingdome: But withall wee desire wee may bee remembred, that this is to bee transferred equally to the
Power and Priviledge of the Parliament of Scotland.
Wee doe not medle of any of the single or proper
Rights, Priviledges, or Lawes of this Nation, more
then wee would have our Brethren to medle with
ours. It is One Thing what the Parliament of England
might have done in annother Cause or Warre before
their Engagements by the Covenants and Treatyes
with the Kingdome of Scotland: It is annother Thing
what ought to bee done after such Conditions and
Tyes, imposed by neither Kingdome upon the other,
but by both joyntly upon themselves, and as mutuall
Obligations, both to God and each to other. Although wee might alsoe goe further backe then to
the Covenant and Treatyes, and plead the common
and equall Interest of the Kingdomes in their common
Head and Soveraigne ever since they were soe united,
as may sufficiently appeare even by some Instances in
His Majesty's Tyme who now raignes over us.
It may bee remembred (as to the Interest of Scotland)
that, when His Majesty was first united and desired to
come into that Kingdome to bee crowned, it was represented by the Lords of His Majesty's Privy Councell in England, that the greate Affaires of this Kingdome could hardly dispence with His Majesty's goeing to Scotland; and therefore that either He might
receive His Crowne of Scotland by a Vice-gerent there,
or that it might bee sent hither unto Him. Like as
this present Parliament, when the King went last into
Scotland to setle the Peace of that Kingdome, did
earnestly desire and presse that He might not goe; but
that He might stay here, for the urgent Affaires of
this Kingdome. But both in the one Case and in the
other the Interest of the Kingdome of Scotland was
preserved; and as it was most necessary that His Majesty should goe into that Kingdome for receiving that
Crowne, soe His Majesty found it expedient to goe
thither for the setling of Peace. It may alsoe bee remembred (as to the Interest of England) that the
English Nobility, both at The Birkes Anno 1639, and
at Yorke 1640, whose Letters to that Purpose are yet
extant and to bee seene, and this Parliament Anno
1641, did clayme an Interest to see and knowe our
Demaunds proposed to the Kinge, that neither His
Majesty nor themselves might bee thereby prejudiced.
But the present Question needeth not goe soe farre
upon a Back Trade: Whatsoever the joynt Interest
of the Kingdomes was formerly, it is without Controversy now much more conjoyned; and unlesse wee
lay aside the Covenant, Treatyes, Declaration of both
Kingdomes, and the Three Yeares Conjunction in
this Warre, neither the one Kingdome nor the other
must now looke backe, what they might have done
singly before such a strict Union; but looke forward,
what is fittest to bee done by both joyntly, for the
common Good of both, and for the Ends of the
Covenant, which both are obliged joyntly to prosecute and promote; soe that the true and proper
Question in this Conjuncture of Affaires is, Whether
both Kingdomes have not a joynt and common Interest
in disposeing of the Kinge of both, for the Good of
both; and that His Majesty's Person ought not to
bee disposed of by either Kingdome singly? Much
might bee said for this joynt Way, and against a divided Way, from the Nature of all Associations,
and the common Rules of Equity observed betweene
Persons, Societyes, or Nations, which have a joynt
Interest in the same Person, Parent, Master, Servant,
or in the same Thing, Inheritance, Lands, House,
Stock, or the like; in which Cases, One of the Partyes
associated may not without the Consent of the other
dispose of that which is common, especially if it bee
a common Person, and least of all if it bee a Person
of cheefest Eminency or Concernment; for although
a common Thing may bee divided, and unto each
Party his proper Share assigned, yet One individiall
Person doth not admitt of a Partition, and soe requireth the greater Union and Conjunction of Councells in the Disposall of it. And as Reasons may bee
drawne from the Nature of all Associations, soe especially from the Nature of ours in the solemne League
and Covenant; the Tytle, Narrative, Articles, and
Conclusion of it, doe all along linke together the Interest of the Kingdomes in this common Cause, soe
much concerning the Glory of God, their owne
Safety, Union, and Peace, and the Honnor and Happines of the King and His Posterity; which Ends of
the Covenant both Parliaments, as well as other Subjects of both Kingdomes, have obliged themselves
joyntly and mutually to promote, according to their
Power, and to continue zealously and constantly therein all the Dayes of their Lives, against all Opposition; and to assist and defend all those that enter into this League and Covenant, in the Maintenance and
pursueing thereof; and never suffer themselves to bee
divided, directly or indirectly, from this blessed Union
and Conjunction: Soe that the Ends of the Covenant
(upon which the Disposall of the King must needs have a
strong Influence) are not to bee prosecuted by the
Two Kingdomes as by Two distinct Bodyes acting
singly; but they were united by solemne Covenant made
to Almighty God, and by League each to the
other, as One intire Body, to prosecute this Cause,
which was the Expression used by the Honnorable
Houses in their Declaration of the Fifth of August,
1645, to the Lords States Generall of The United
Provinces of The Low Countryes; in which Declaration
this notable Instance was given, which deserveth alsoe to bee remembred, "That, by the Covenant,
both Houses of Parliament, and many Thousands of
other His Majesty's Subjects of England and Ireland,
stand bound, as well as wee, to hinder the settinge-upp
of the Church Government by Bishopps in the Kingdome of Scotland; and that wee, as well as (fn. *) they,
stand bound to indeavor the Extirpation thereof in
England and Ireland: And as by the Covenant the
Kingdomes are fast linked together in the whole Prosecution of this Cause, soe perticularly both are obliged to endeavor mutually to preserve and defend the
King's Majesty's Person and Authority in the Preservation and Defence of the true Religion and Libertyes of the Kingdomes, that the World may beare
Wittnes with our Consciences of our Loyalty, and
that wee have noe Thoughts or Intentions to diminish His Majesty's just Power and Greatnes."
From the Treaty the same Thing doth further appeare; it being thereby manifest, that, as our Army
was to bee levyed for the common Good of both Kingdomes in the Pursuance of the Ends exprest in the
Covenant, and not as Auxiliaryes for the single Good
of this Kingdome; soe they are not tyed to bee subject to the Resolutions and Directions of either Kingdome singly, but of both joyntly.
Alsoe, by the 8th Article, noe Cessation, Pacification,
nor Agreement for Peace whatsoever, is to bee made
by either Kingdome, without the mutuall Advise and
Consent of both; soe that, if the Disposall of the
King's Person, mentioned in the Vote of both Houses,
bee intended for the Good of both Kingdomes, then
it should not bee done without the mutuall Advise
and Consent of both; but, if intended for the Peace
and Security of this Kingdome within itselfe singly,
this were to setle the Peace of the One Kingdome,
not only without the Councell and Consent, but before the Setlement of the other, and soe the more inconsistent with the plaine Scope of that Article.
"Moreover, by the 9th Article of the same Treaty, all
Matters of Difference ariseing betweene the Subjects of
the Two Nations are too bee resolved and determined
by the mutuall Advise and Consent of both; which
hath ever bin the usuall Way in such Cases; neither
knowe wee any any other Way for healinge of Differences betweene Two free Nations, which are to
bee Brethren and Equalls, and neither of them to bee
subordinate to the other. If, therefore, any Difference should arise (which God forbid) betweene the
Two Parliaments, or any others of the Subjects of
the Two Nations, concerning the disposeing of His
Majesty's Person; then the Question cannott bee otherwise resolved and determined, but by the mutuall
Advise and Consent of both. How much better is it
(according to the Sixth Article of the Covenant) to
consult how to prevent all Differences which are like
to arise betweene us or our Posterityes!
The Honnorable Houses, in their Wisdome, did
thinke fitt that, in the mannaging of this Warre,
there should bee a Conjunction of the Councells of
both Kingdomes, in Referrence to the English as well
as to the Scottish Forces. How much more may wee
expect a Conjunction of Councells in disposeing of
His Majesty's Person, wherein the One Kingdome is
as much interessed as the other!
If more neede to bee said in this Busines, wee
hope it is not forgotten how the Declaration of both
Houses, and their Commissioners sent into Scotland to
desire their Assistance and Engagment in this Warre,
did invite, sollicite, and perswade that Nation, upon
Principles of common Interest, and in regard the One
Kingdome cannott enjoy a firme and durable Peace
while the other is in Warre: Wee were alsoe put
in Mynde of the Affection and Duty which becometh
Brethren. And as wee did, upon these and the like
Considerations, espouse our Brethren's Quarrell, soe
it cannott bee offensive that wee desire from them an
Improvement of the very same Principles; and that
the same Measure of the Conjunction of Interests bee
given to us, which was gott from us. God forbidd,
that Wayes of seperating the Interests of the Kingdomes should now bee studdyed as much as Wayes of
unitinge them were before endeavored. Wee cannott
but expect better Things from our Brethren then in
their Prosperity to desert us, who did engage and
joyne with them in their greatest Affliction; or to
thinke of secureing their owne Peace without us,
while the Troubles of our Kingdome continue.
Wherefore wee cannott choose but obtest, by the
common Good of both Kingdomes, by the Conjunction
and Parity of Interests, by the Love of Brethren, by
Declarations of both Houses, by former Presidents,
by the Treatyes betweene the Kingdomes, by the solemne League and Covenant, yea by the very Law of
Nations and Rules of common Equity, that there may
bee a Conjunction of the Councells and Resolutions of
both Kingdomes, in disposeing of that Royall Person,
who is King of both; and that all lawfull and possible
Meanes (of which this is One and a cheife One) may
bee used, which may preserve His Majesty's Person, Honnor, and Happines, according to the Covenant, Monarchicall Government according to the
fundamentall Lawes of both Kingdomes, together
with a firme and happy Union betweene the Kingdomes.
These Principles wee desire still to goe upon; and
therefore, if the Vote of both Houses communicated
unto us bee understood as a materiall Demaund of
His Majesty's Person to bee delivered unto them, to
bee disposed of as they shall thinke fitt; this, as it doth
not necessarily followe from the Words of the Vote,
nor doth agree with that Sence of the Vote which in
Charity wee are most willing to entertaine, soe there
are just and greate Reasons against it. Wee acknowledge that wee are not to presume the worst, but the best,
concerning the Intentions of the Honnorable Houses
towards the King. But wee doe not doubt but it will
bee mutually acknowledged, that, for preventing of
Differences afterwards, it is most fitt and necessary that
there bee a cleere and distinct Understanding betweene
the Kingdomes in a Busines of this Nature and Consequence; and that it is not to bee expected from private Persons (though under Jurisdiction), much lesse
from annother Kingdome, that they should passe from
their Interest or just Security, because they have to
doe with such as they judge to bee honest and faithfull.
To speake, therefore to the Nature of the Thing
in itselfe: If the Scotts Army should deliver upp
His Majesty's Person without His owne Consent, and
that upon the Vote communicated unto us, which
(although it may suffer a benigne Interpretation, and
bee understood of the disposeing of the King's Person
favorably and honnorably; yet,) as the Words stand,
is comprehensive, and capacious of more then is fitt to
bee expressed; this Act of the Army were not agreeable to their Oath of Allegiance (obligeing them to
defend His Majesty's Person from all Harmes and Prejudices), nor to the solemne League and Covenant,
which was not intended to weaken, but to strengthen
our Alleagiance, and to wipe of the Calumny and
Aspersion of Rebellion; for which End, before our
Engagment in this Warre, it was mutually covenanted
betweene the Kingdomes, to preserve the King's Majesty's Person and Authority in the Preservation of
the Religion and Libertyes of the Kingdomes, thereby
houlding forth to the World that the Preservation and
Defence of Religion and Libertyes may well consist,
and was intended to consist, with the Preservation of
His Majesty's Person and Authority, whome therefore our Army cannott deliver to bee disposed of by
any others at Pleasure. This Delivery were alsoe
inconsistent with that joynt, equall, and common Interest
of both Kingdomes in the Disposall of His Majesty's
Person, which wee have before asserted; and where
upon the Matter, as passing from the Right and Interest of the Kingdome of Scotland in that Busines,
it were alsoe contrary to His Majesty's Power of Residence in any of His Kingdomes, and to the free exerciseinge of the Dutyes of His Place and Acts of Personall
Government; such as the Heareing and Redressing of
the Greivances of His Subjects in Parliament, and His
concurring in the makeing of Lawes: Neither could
it stand with the Commissions given to the Committee
of Estates and Generall Officers of our Army, or with
their Military Oath, to deliver upp their Kinge, without
His owne Consent, and without Warrant from the
Parliament of Scotland, to bee disposed of by annother Nation; even as it were not to bee expected that
the Army under the Commaund of Sir Thomas Fairefax, if they were in Scotland for our Assistance there,
in the like Cause, and under the like Engagments, in
a Recesse of the Parliament of England, and without
their Warrant, would, upon the like Demaund, deliver upp the Kinge (haveing cast Himselfe in their
Hands), to bee disposed of by the Parliament of
Scotland.
Finally, if it bee contrary to the Lawe and common Practise of Nations to deliver upp the meanest
Subject fledd to them, though it bee for the greatest
Crymes (for which Cause the Parliament of England,
in the 4th of Kinge James, and likewise in the large
Treaty, refused a generall Act of Remaunding betweene the Two Kingdomes, unlesse they should bee
united into One); how much more would the World
abroade condemne our Army for a base and dishonnorable Act, if they should deliver upp their Head
and Soveraigne (haveing cast Himselfe into their
Hands), to bee disposed of at the Arbitrament of
annother Nation.
And now wee hope it will not bee tedious that
wee further enlarge ourselves upon this greate
Subject, by adding sattisfactory Answers to such
Objections as have bin, or may bee made against our Desires and Principles in this Busines.
Objection 1. That the Scottish Army is an Auxiliary Army of England, and under their Pay; and
therefore ought to deliver upp the Kinge, to bee disposed of by both Houses as they shall thinke fitt.
Answer. It is sufficiently knowne that the Scottish
Army came not into this Kingdome in the Nature of
Auxilliaryes; for when it was desired by the Parliament of England, that the Kingdome of Scotland
should send an Auxilliary Army into this Kingdome,
to bee subject to the Directions and Resolutions of
both Houses, it was absolutly refused, as may appeare by the severall Papers aboute that Purpose
yet extant. The Kingdome of Scotland did forsee and consider how prejudiciall it was to forsake
their owne Peace, and what infinite Troubles, Losses,
and unavoydable Danger, their Engagment with the
Parliament of England against soe powerfull and prevailing an Enemy would bringe upon the Kingdome of
Scotland; and, as they regarded not the large Offers,
nor the Threats of the other Side, for all their
Prosperity, soe there was noe Offer of Pay, or
other worldly Advantage whatsoever, from the Houses
of Parliament, which could have enduced them to
undertake soe hazardous and desperate a Warre: It
was the Good of Religion, King, and Kingdomes,
they sett before their Eyes; in order to which End,
they accounted nothing too deare unto them: And
haveing resolved to engage in this Cause for Assistance of their Brethren, they did not stand upon
Conditions, but, without Respect to the Season of
the Yeare, the greate Strength of the Enemy, and
other Discouragments, did in a short Tyme leavy an
Army at their owne Charge, and, because of the
many Burthens then lying upon this Kingdome, were
content for the present to accept of a Summe, towards
the Monethly Entertainment of that Army, amounting to little more than Halfe Pay, and to supersede
all Demaunds for further Recompence till the Warre
should bee at an End. And seeinge the Kingdome of
Scotland was to put their owne Peace, and equally
with England to undergoe the Hazard of the Warre,
it was found reasonable that the Prosecution thereof,
and the makeing of the Conditions of Peace after
the Warre, should bee with joynt Advise and Consent
of both Kingdomes; and according to these Grounds
a Covenant was agreed upon, for the Reformation of
Religion, and for Preservation of the Libertyes of the
Kingdomes, and of the King's Person and Authority,
together with a Treaty, wherein it is declared, That
the Scotts Army shall bee commaunded by a Generall
appointed by the Estates of Scotland, and shal bee
subject to such Resolutions and Directions as are and
shal bee mutually agreed upon and concluded betweene the Kingdomes or their Committees in that
Behalfe appointed, for Pursuance of the Ends of the
Covenant; of which One is, to defend and preserve
His Majesty's Person.
Objection 2. That the King is in England, and
therefore to bee disposed of by both Houses of Parliament, and cannott bee disposed of by the Scottish
Army; and though the Kingdome of Scotland may
pretend to an Interest and Power in the disposeinge of
the King, yet they can have noe Exercise of that
Power in England: And albeit the Scottish Army,
according to the Treaty betweene the Kingdomes,
bee only subject to such Resolutions as are mutually
agreed upon by both Kingdomes, or their Committees appointed in that Behalfe, yet this is only to bee
understood in orderinge and regulatinge of the Scottish
Forces for prosecuting the Warre; and the Treaty
extends noe further.
Answer. Although His Majesty's riding One Dayes
Journey might wholly subvert the Grounds of this
Objection, yet wee shall not insist upon this Answere,
because wee conceive it toucheth not the true State
of the Question. It hath bin already cleered, what
is not, and what is, the State of the Question;
which being remembred, wee doe assert, That, the
King comeing voluntarily to the Scottish Army, they
cannott in Duty deliver Him, against His Will, to
the Houses of Parliament, without Consent of the
Kingdome of Scotland; for the being in England
takes not away the Relation betweene the King and
His Subjects of the Kingdome of Scotland, nor ought
it to impede the Performance of the mutuall Dutyes
founded upon that Relation; for Alleigance hath
noe Lymittation of Place, being grounded upon the
Law of Nature as well as the Lawe Municipall, and
is rather universall than locall. The Difference of
Place takes not away the Relation and mutuall Dutyes
betweene Parents and Children; and it is not the
Place, but the Relation, which gives Interest to
the Disposall of the Person of the Kinge. As His
being in England takes not away the Relation betweene Him and His Subjects of Scotland, soe it doth
not infringe the mutuall Obligations and solemne Engagments betweene the Kingdomes, for joynt Councells, in Prosecution of the Warre, and setling of
Peace; the King's comeing to the Scottish Army being an Emergency of our joynt Warre, and the right
Disposall of His Person the only Meane (for the
present) of our joynt Security and Peace. Neither
can the King's being in England prejudge any Right
or Priviledge of either Kingdome. It is the fundamentall Right and Priviledge of the Parliament of
Scotland and the Liberty of that Kingdome (as wee
acknowledge it to bee the Right and Priviledge of the
Kingdome of England), that the Person of their
King ought not bee disposed of but with their Advise
and Consent. The Place of the King's Residence
(as was answered to us, when in the large Treaty it
was desired His Majesty might sometymes reside in
Scotland) is, at His owne Election, in either of the
Kingdomes, as the Exigence of Affaires shall require,
and He shall thinke fitt; or els must bee determined
by the mutuall Advise and Consent of both Kingdomes. From all which Grounds it is apparrant, that
the Kingdome where He resides for the Tyme may
doe noe Act which may hinder His Majesty to performe the Office and Duty of a Kinge to the Kingdome from which He is absent in Person, nor impede
Him to repaire to that Kingdome when the Affaires
thereof shall necessarily require it: Otherwise, if
the Kingdome where His Majesty resides hath the
sole Interest and Right to dispose of His Person, the
Estates of the Parliament of Scotland might upon
former Occasions, and may now in case the Kinge and
Prince shall repaire to Scotland, lawfully deteyne
them there, and make it the Place of the ordinary
Residence of them and their Posterity, without the
Consent of the Kingdome of England, which wee acknowledge could not bee done without a manifest
Prejudice and Injury to this Kingdome: Wherefore
wee cannott but conclude that wheresoever the King
bee, in Scotland or England, He, being the King of
both, ought to bee disposed of for the Good, and
with the Consent, of both Kingdomes. And if it
bee considered that the Scottish Army was invited and
called in to this Kingdome by both Houses, in a
Treaty, for prosecuting the Ends of a solemne
League and Covenant, whereof One is to preserve
and defend His Majesty's Person, there can remaine
noe Doubt concerninge the Exercise of that Right and
Interest in this Kingdome; and therefore it seemes
very strange, that when upon Invitation they are
come into England, as for other Ends, soe to defend
His Majesty's Person, their being in England should
bee made Use of as an Argument why they should deliver upp the Person of their Kinge to bee disposed of
as both Houses shall thinke fitt. Whereas it is alleadged, that the Treaty extends noe farther then to
the ordering and regulatinge of the Scottish Forces in
relation to the Warre; although this bee really answered from the Nature of the Thinge, the King's
coming to the Scottish Army beinge an Emergency of
the Warre, and soe the delivering of His Person
comes under the Regulation and Direction of both
Kingdomes, or their Committees, as an Act of the
Scottish Army: Yet, that all Doubts may bee removed,
wee further add, That it is cleere from the 3d Article of the Treaty, that the Scottish Army is to receive the Directions of both Kingdomes, or of their
Committees, in all Things which may concerne the
Pursuance of the Ends of the Covenant and Treaty,
whether in relation to Peace or Warre. In the
8th Article of the Treaty, noe Cessation, Pacification, or Agreement for Peace whatsoever, is to
bee made by either Kingdome, or the Army of either
Kingdome, without the Advise and Consent of both
Kingdomes. And in the 9th Article, all Differences
ariseinge betweene the Subjects of the Two Nations
are to bee resolved and determined by the mutuall Advise and Consent of both Kingdomes.
Objection 3. That the Scottish Army did carry
away the King from the Leaguer before Newarke,
when there was a Committee of both Houses there
without seekinge their Consent; and that they have
since disposed of Him without Consent of the Houses
of Parliament; whereas, by the Treaty, they ought
to doe nothing without a joynt Resolution of both
Kingdomes or their Committees.
Answer. Noe sooner did the King come to the
Scottish Army, but the very same Day the Committee
of Estates of Scotland residing with that Army did acquaint the Commissioners of both Houses therewith;
and, not sattisfyinge themselves with this, the Day
following they wrote a Letter to the Committee of
Scotland residing at Edinburgh, and annother to the
Committee of both Kingdomes here (which was communicated to both Houses), desireinge the Advise of
this Kingdome, as in a Matter of common Interest,
and declareing they would obey the joynt Resolutions
of both Kingdomes; yet noe Answere or Advise was
retourned unto them, either from the Houses or their
Commissioners; but, immediatly after the Surrender of Newarke, they received Information, that
5000 Horse and Dragoones from Sir Thomas Fairefax
his Army were upon their March towards them Northward; (which the Honnorable House of Peeres was
pleased to give Order to stopp) there being noe
Enemy in those Parts to bee opposed. Upon Consideration whereof, the Quarters wherein they had
stayed dureinge the Seidge of Newarke being extreamly
exhausted, and the Service for which they came thither beinge performed; for preventing Mistakes, or
new Troubles betweene the Kingdomes, they removed
into Yorksheir; and the King, as He came unto them
of His owne Accord, did voluntarily march along with
them. Upon severall Occasions afterwards, they and
wee did earnestly desire the Honnorable Houses to
send a Committee, to joyne and co-operate with the
Committe of Estates there upon the Place, in all
Things according to the Treaty; but noe Answere
was returned: And from Tyme to Tyme the Houses
were acquainted with the Proceedings in that Army,
which were, according to the Covenant, and the
knowne Resolutions of both Kingdomes, to debarre
all such of either or both Kingdomes as had beene in
Armes against the Parliaments from comeinge into
their Quarters, or to the Courts, or to the King's Person, according to the Desire of the House of Peeres.
And whereas it is affirmed, that, by the Treaty, the
Scotts Army ought to doe nothing without a joynt
Resolution of both Kingdomes or their Committees,
there is noe such Clause in the Treaty; but they are
to bee subject to such Resolutions as are and shal bee
agreed upon and concluded mutually betweene the
Kingdomes, or their Committees; as, by Ordinance
of Parliament, the Army under the Commaund of
the Earle of Essex, or of Sir Thomas Fairefax, was
to receive and observe the Directions of the Committee of both Kingdomes sitting at Westm'r: But in
case noe new Directions were sent unto them, they
were left to former Orders (if any were), or otherwise to their owne Judgment and Discretion. There
was never any such Resolution agreed upon betweene
the Kingdomes, or their Committees, as that the
Scottish Army should not receive the King if He came
unto them. But it is an Agreement betweene the
Kingdomes (in the Covenant) that they should preserve and defend His Majesty's Person, and (in the
Declarations of both Kingdomes) to rescue Him
from the common Enemy; soe that, the Scottish Army
haveing often desired to knowe the Direction and
Advise of the Houses of Parliament concerning the
King, and noe new Directions being signifyed unto
them, according to the Treaty they were to observe
the Directions and Resolutions formerly agreed upon
betweene the Kingdomes: And as the Scotts Army
doe and will ever acknowledge, that they clayme noe
Power to dispose of the King's Person, but are subject to, and shal bee ready to followe, whatsoever
both Kingdomes shall agree upon as best for the
King and Kingdomes, soe their keeping and preserving His Majesty's Person, as they would doe to any
Person of His Eminency and Relation in an Army or
Garrison Towne, without the least Thought of hindring His voluntary Retourne to His Parliament,
cannott bee reputed or called a Disposeing of His
Person.
Objection 4. If any Peere of England goe to the
Scottish Army, and desier their Protection, can hee
not be disposed of without the Consent of the Committee of Estates of the Kingdome of Scotland residinge with that Army?
Answer. There is a wide and manifest Difference
betwixt the Relation the Scottish Army hath to any
Subject of England, and the Relation they have to
their King, which are sufficiently distinguished in the
3d and 4th Articles of the Covenant; for by the
One they are mutually obliged to preserve and defend
His Majesty's Person; and by the other they are
obliged to endeavor that all Incendiaryes and Dividers
betwixt the Kinge and His People, or betwixt the
Kingdomes, bee brought to Tryall and condigne Punishment before the Supreame Judicatures of the
Kingdomes respectively: And the Kingdome of Scotland hath equall Right and Interest with the Kingdome of England in the Disposall of the Person of
the King, which they cannott pretend unto concerninge the Person of any Subject of England.
Objection 5. That, seeing it is alleadged by us,
That the disposeing of the King's Person comes in
Place of a Peace; then the receivinge of the Kinge
unto the Scottish Army without Consent of the Houses
as equivalent to the makeing of a Peace without Consent of the Kingdome of England, contrary to the
8th Article of the Treaty.
Answer. It hath bin sufficiently answered before,
that the Scottish Army neither hath nor will take
upon them to dispose of the Kinge. He came unto
them without Capitulation or Treaty; His Residence
with them is voluntary and free; and they doe nothing
which may hinder Him to come to His Houses of
Parliament: But, if the Kingdome of Scotland should
consent to the Desire of the Houses, that they may
have the sole Disposall of the Person of the Kinge,
it being that which comes in the Place of the Peace
and Security of both Kingdomes, they would really
quitt the Right and Interest they have by the 8th
Article of the Treaty concerning the makeing of a
Peace; for which soeever of the Kingdomes is acknowledged to have the soe Disposall of the King
may without the other make Peace with Him, whom
and in what Terme, they please.
Objection 6. That England is a free Nation, and
in former Tymes it was in the Power of the Parliament of England to dispose of their Kings; and if
One Kingdome pretend to a joynt Right of the disposeing of the King while He is in the other, it is to
intrench upon the former Liberty of that Kingdome:
That the Kingdome of Scotland hath noe Reason to
distrust the Houses of Parliament, who, when the
King shall bee in their Power, will not dispose of
Him otherwise then may consist with their Duty, according to the Covenant and Treaty betweene the
Kingdomes.
Answer. (fn. *) Wee will not dispute what Power the
Houses of Parliament formerly had to dispose of the
Person of their Kinge; but whatsoever Power or
Right they have, the like is due to the Parliament
of Scotland; and soe the Person of the King, being
common to both and indivisible, cannott bee disposed
of but by Consent of both Kingdomes: It were
annother Question indeede, if it were as in former
Tymes, if wee had different Kings, if there were
not an Union of the Kingdomes under One Head
and Monarch, if there were neither Covenant nor
Treaty betweene the Kingdomes; but since all these
are, and that the Peace and Security of both Kingdomes is soe much concerned in the Disposall of the
King, not any One of them without the other can
justly pretend to the sole Judgment and Right to determine what is best and most expedient for the Safety
and Security of both: Nor can it in Reason bee made
an Argument that the One Kingdome distrusts the
other, because the One will not renounce and resigne
all Right and Interest they have in the Person of the
Kinge, and Matter of their owne Security and Peace,
to the Judgment and Determination of the other;
otherwise, according to this Argument, where there
is any Trust, there should bee noe Contract betweene
Person and Person, nor Treaty betweene Nations;
or, if there bee any Treaty or Agreement, the Performance or Not-performance of it is to bee left to
Arbitrament; but wee cannott see that this doth argue any Difference or Distrust, more then when private Persons lendinge Money to the Publique desire
Security, and will not depend upon Pleasure:
And therefore, though it is not to bee questioned but
the Houses of Parliament would dispose of the Person of the King soe as might consist with their Duty
in performing the Covenant and Treaty, yet this can
bee noe Argument why the Scottish Army should neglect their Duty, or the Kingdome of Scotland quite
the Interest and Right they have in the Person of the
Kinge.
Objection 7. That the King is in the Possession of the
Scottish Army; and though a joynt Advise and Consent of both Kingdomes bee urged for His Disposall,
yet, if the Houses of Parliament agree not to what
Scotland shall desire, the King doth still remaine in
the Power of the Scotts Army, and soe the Parliament of England hath noe Consent.
Answer. If this Argument were turned over, the
Strength or Weaknes of it may the more easily appeare: Supposoe the King were here at Westminster;
it may bee upon the same Grounds urged that the
Kingdome of Scotland would have noe Consent in His
Disposall, and soe much the more, that the Houses
claime the sole Interest and Judgment to dispose upon
the King's Person, which wee desire may bee done
joyntly, as may bee best for the Security and Safety
of both Kingdomes: And wee see noe Reason why it
may not now bee determined when He is in the
Scottish Army (who are entrusted by both, and subject to the Resolution of both Kingdomes), as well as
hereafter; since He came thither of His owne Accord,
and His Residence there is voluntary: And if His
Majesty shall thinke fitt to repaire hither to His
Houses of Parliament, they shall doe noe Act which
may either hinder or disswade Him; but cannott constraine Him, or deliver Him to the Houses to bee disposed of as they shall thinke fitt.
It may now aboundantly appeare, from the Grounds
and Considerations before expressed, that the Scottish
Army may not deliver upp His Majesty's Person, to
bee disposed of by the One Kingdome without the
Consent of the other; upon Supposition whereof,
wee shall in the next Place (without presuming to prescribe Wayes or impose Conditions) expresse ourselves concerninge some Expedients, which, in referrence to His Majesty, deserve to bee looked upon,
considered of, and compared together; where wee
shall only premise this much, That, whatever Way
shal be taken, if the right End bee looked at, His
Majesty's Person ought to bee soe disposed of as
may serve most for the Safety and Happines of the
King Himselfe, and for the common Peace and Security of the Kingdomes united in this Cause by the
solemne League and Covenant, and as may best agree
with their Duty, Covenant, and Treatyes.
These Ends being before our Eyes, although it bee
most eligible and best of all that His Majesty should
without further Delay forthwith give Sattisfaction in
the Propositions of Peace (which hath bin with all Instancy pressed, not only by us, but by all the Judicatoryes of the Kingdome of Scotland), and soe retourne fully reconciled to His Houses of Parliament;
yet, since (to our unspeakeable Greife) this hath not
bin as yet obtained, wee doe propose, That His Majesty's coming to London, or to some of His Houses
neere London, with Safety, Freedome, and Honnor,
(which is desired by Himselfe), that He may bee heard,
and that, upon the cleering of His Doubts, He
may knowingly give a sattisfactory Answere to the
Propositions, is much better then the other Wayes
which may bee expected in case this His Majesty's
Desire bee not agreed unto. As for His Majesty's
goeing to Ireland, or other-where beyond Sea, it
could not bee the Way to a present Peace, now soe
much desired; but would certainly prognosticate new
Troubles.
Lastly, His Majesty's comeing hither, or neere this
Place, is a more probable and hopefull Way to preserve the Union of the Kingdomes; because, the Enemy beinge still in Armes in Scotland, and expecting
Supplyes from Ireland, and the Kingdome disabled
by their greate Sufferings to entertaine an Army for
suppressing the malignant Party, it were much more
easy to raise new Forces there, to the Disturbance of
the Peace of this Kingdome, then it could bee here,
where (by the Blessing of God) all the Forces and
Garrisons of the Enemy are subdued, and where it
will not bee soe difficult to hinder Delinquents from
Accesse to His Majesty.
The Dangers and Inconveniencyes of any of these
other Wayes doe soe much preponderate, and the
present Condition of Affaires doth soe much differ
from that Time when both Houses with our Concurrence did disagree from His Majesty's Desire of comeing to London (at which Tyme He had both Garrisons and Feild Forces unreduced), that it may bee
conceived not only safe, but (as Things stand) most
convenient, to agree to His Majesty's comeing to
London, or neere it, upon such Conditions and Assurances from Him as shal bee by joynt Resolution
found necessary, for preventing the Accesse of Delinquents to His Majesty, or any Intestine Commotion,
or Forraigne Invasion, to the Disturbance of the
Peace of either Kingdome; wee trust it might accelerate a happy Peace, bring the present Difference to
an End, and bee noe Greife of Heart afterwards, if
upon such Tearmes and Conditions both Houses should
bee pleased to revive and renew such an Invitation and
Assurance upon their Part, as was conteyned in
their Answere to His Majesty's Message of the
11th of September, 1642; where, after Mention
made of their cheife Greivances, it was added,
[" All this notwithstanding, as we never gave Your
Majesty any just Cause of withdrawing Yourself
from Your Great Council, so it hath been, and
shall ever be, far from us to give any Impediment
to Your Return, or to neglect any proper Means
of curing the Distempers of the Kingdom, and
closing the dangerous Breaches betwixt Your Majesty and Your Parliament, according to the great
Trust which now lies upon us; and if Your Majesty
shall now be pleased to come back to Your Parliament without Your Forces, we shall be ready to secure Your Royal Person, Crown, and Dignity,
with our Lives and Fortunes; Your Presence in this
Great Council being the only Means of any Treaty
betwixt Your Majesty and them, with Hope of Success."] Diverse such Passages there (fn. *) are in the
Declarations of both Houses, which wee shall not
neede to mention.
But, if the Houses of Parliament shall not agree
to His Majesty's Desire of comeing hither with Safety, Freedome, and Honnor; wee offer to bee considered, in the next Place, whether it bee not expedient that once againe Commissioners bee sent to His
Majesty, in the Name of both Kingdomes, with
Power to heare His Desires, and to endeavor the
Sattisfaction of Doubts and Scruples; with Intimation
alsoe, That, if His Majesty shall not give Sattisfaction in the Propositions, both Kingdomes will, without any more such Applications, consult and joyntly
resolve upon other Wayes of their Safety and Security; and upon the other Part, That, if His Majesty will bee now at last graciously pleased to sattisfy
the Desires of both Kingdomes, His Majesty's Throne,
with His just Power and Greatnes, shall bee established, as well as the Peace and Security of His Subjects.
All which wee doe propound in a brotherly Freedome, not being peremptorily wedded or addicted to
any Expedient that wee have offered: But, if the
Honnorable Houses, in their Wisdome, shall please to
thinke of any other Expedient, which shal bee for
the Good, Safety, and Honnor of the Kinge and Kingdomes, wee shal bee most willing and ready to agree
unto it, when it shal bee made knowne unto us; not
doubting, but that, in the faithfull and conscionable
Use of all good and possible Meanes which may prevent Differences betweene the Kingdomes, there will
bee at last a sweete and brotherly Agreement, and such
a Conclusion as shal bee good in God's Eyes, and
wherein both Kingdomes shall finde greatest Comfort
and Happines.
20th October, 1646.
By the Commaund of the Commissioners for the Parliament of
Scotland.
"Jo. Cheislie."
Order for cleaning the Streets, against the Funeral of the Earl of Essex.
Whereas there hath formerly been Directions given,
That the Streets, from Temple Barre unto the West
End of the Abbey Church of Westm'r, should be
so paved and cleansed, against the Day of the Funeral of the Right Honourable the late Earl of Essex
deceased, whereby the Lords and Commons of the
Parliament, and all others in that Proceeding, may
pass in the said Streets without Inconveniency or Prejudice by the Foulness of the Ways; and as yet little
or nothing hath been done therein: It is therefore
Ordered, by the Lords assembled in Parliament,
That you cause a streight Command to be given unto
all the Inhabitants, and all others whom it may
concern, from Temple Barre to The Gatehouse in
Westm'r, That they, and every of them, do immediately amend and pave the Streets, where any Defects
or Defaults are; and that they cleanse the Streets,
and keep them so cleansed, till the Funeral of the said
Earl be passed, being Thursday next, as they, and
every of them whom it may concern, will answer their
Neglects at their Perils.
"To the Steward and Deputy Steward
of Westm'r, and to all the Constables of Westm'r and the Liberties thereof; and to all others
whom it may concern."