House of Lords Journal Volume 8
21 October 1646

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'House of Lords Journal Volume 8: 21 October 1646', Journal of the House of Lords: volume 8: 1645-1647 (1767-1830), pp. 541-542. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=34120 Date accessed: 29 July 2014.


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DIE Mercurii, 21 die Octobris.

PRAYERS, by Mr. Taylor.

Comes Manchester, Speaker.

Comes Pembrooke.
Comes Northumb.
Comes Warwicke.
Comes Kent.
Comes Rutland.
Comes Denbigh.
Comes Mulgrave.
Comes Sarum.
Comes Suffolke.
Comes Lyncolne.
Comes Midd.
Ds. Robertes.
Ds. Howard.
Ds. Bruce.
Ds. North.
Ds. Willoughby.
Ds. Wharton.
Ds. Maynard.
Ds. Berkley.
Ds. Hunsdon.
Ds. Grey.

Message from the Assembly, that Mr. Cradock is qualified for the Ministry.

A Message was brought from the Assembly of Divines, by Mr. Marshall and others; who presented a Paper to this (fn. *) House, from the Assembly, which was read, as follows:

"To the Right Honourable the House of Peers in Parliament assembled.

"Having received an Order from this Honourable House to the Assembly of Divines, bearing Date the 6th of August, 1646, touching Ric'd Symons, Henry Walter, and Walter Cradocke, Ministers, to certify their Abilities for the discharging of the Work of the Ministry: These are humbly to certify your Honours, That we have yet seen and conferred only with Mr. Cradock; and of him we conceive that he is well furnished with Abilities for the Work of the Ministry.

"Charles Herle, Prolocutor.

"Henry Robrough, Scriba.

"Adoniram Byfild, Scriba."

Ordered, That this House agrees to Mr. Cradocke.

Mr. Symons and Mr. Walters to be examined by them.

Ordered, That the Assembly of Divines do certify to this House their Opinions, what they conceive of the Fitness of Mr. Symons and Mr. Walters to the Work of the Ministry; and upon their Knowledge, or best Information they can receive, either by Speaking or in their Absence.

They are to report the same to this House within Ten Days after the Date hereof.

E. of Pembroke to have the Preference, in renting Cashiobury House, &c.

Ordered, That it be recommended to the Committee of Hertfordshire, that the Earl of Pembrooke, he giving such Rent as will be for the Advantage of the State, may be preferred before any other Person to rent the House of Cashioberry, the Park and Lands belonging to the same, in the County of Hertford, which was in the Possession of the Earl of Essex; and that the said Committee do take Care that they let the Lands in Sequestration to such Persons as will duly pay the Rents.

Answer from the H. C.

Dr. Aylett and Dr. Heath return with this Answer from the House of Commons:

That they agree to the Ordinance concerning Mr. Pierrepont. (Here enter it.)

And to the Order concerning Captain Batten. (Here enter it.)

And to the Ordinance concerning the Heralds. (Here enter it.)

As to the other Particulars, they will send an Answer by Messengers of their own.

Skrymshire & al. a Pass to France.

Ordered, That Mr. Jokn Skrymshire shall have a Pass, for himself, and Richard Poole his Servant, and Two Horses, to go into France.

Paper from the Scots Commissioners, about the Disposal of the King's Person.

Next, the Second Paper delivered in Yesterday from the Scotts Commissioners, was read.

And the House was adjourned into a Committee of the whole House, to take the same into Consideration.

The House being resumed;

And it was moved, "That this Vote should be put; videlicet,

Committees to meet with the Scots Commissioners about it.

"That a Committee shall be appointed, to join with a proportionable Number of the House of Commons, to consult and debate with the Commissioners of Scotland, concerning such Things that may settle the Peace and Prosperity, and brotherly Amity of the Two Kingdoms of England and Scotland."

Then it was moved, "That these Words [" in relation to the King"] might (fn. *) be added to the Vote."

And the Question being put, "Whether these Words shall be added to this Vote?"

It was Resolved in the Affirmative.

Then the Question was put, "Whether that a Committee shall be appointed, to join with a proportionable Number of the House of Commons, to consult and debate with the Commissioners of Scotland, concerning such Things that may settle the Peace and Prosperity and brotherly Amity of the Two Kingdoms of England and Scotland, in relation to the King?"

And it was Resolved in the Affirmative.

Lords Committees.

Then this House nominated these Lords to be Committees, in reference to the aforesaid Vote; videlicet,

Comes Pembrooke.
Comes Lyncolne.
Comes Manchester.
Comes Mulgrave.
Comes Midd.
Ds. Hunsdon.
Ds. North.
Ds. Willoughby.
Ds. Robertes.
Ds. Maynard.
Ds. Bruce.

Any Five, to meet on Friday next, in the Afternoon, in the Painted Chamber.

Message to the H. C. to appoint a Committee of their House to join with them.

A Message was sent to the House of Commons, by Dr. Aylett and Dr. Heath:

To communicate the Vote now made, and desire their Concurrence therein; and that they would appoint a Committee of their House, to join with the Lords Committees, and to meet on Friday next, in the Afternoon, in the Painted Chamber, at Three of the Clock: That the Number is Eleven.

Message from thence, with an Ordinance about the Great Seal.

A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Sir Robert Harley Knight, &c. who brought an Ordinance concerning the Great Seal of England, wherein they desire their Lordships Concurrence.

The said Ordinance was read the First Time; and the House was adjourned into a Committee during Pleasure, to debate whether it should be rejected or not.

And after Debate;

The House was resumed, and there was Two Questions propounded:

"1. Whether this Ordinance shall be rejected?

"2. Whether this Ordinance shall be read the Second Time, and committed?"

Then this Question was put, "Whether the First Question shall be put?"

And it was Resolved in the Affirmative.

Next,

Rejected.

This Question was put, "Whether this Ordinance concerning the Great Seal shall be rejected, or not?"

And it was Resolved in the Affirmative.

The Answer returned was:

Answer to the H. C.

That this House will send an Answer concerning the Ordinance now brought up, by Messengers of their own.

Message to them, to remind them of the One sent from this House about it.

A Message was sent to the House of Commons, by Sir Edward Leech and Mr. Page:

To put them in Mind of the Ordinance which rests with them concerning Commissioners of the Great Seal of England, because there is great Necessity for the passing of it.

Batten to continue Commander in Chief, &c.

"The Lords and Commons assembled in Parliament do approve of Captain Batten to continue Vice Admiral and Commander in Chief of the Fleet, in the Ship Leopard, for this Winter's Expedition."

Order for Mr. Pierpoint to have the Executorship of the E. of Kingston.

"It is this Day Ordered, by the Lords and Commons in Parliament assembled, That, notwithstanding the Delinquency or any Act done by the late Earl of Kingston, Francis Pierpont Esquire his Son and sole Executor shall, in regard of his faithful Service to the Parliament, have the Benefit of the said Executorship, as of the Gift of both Houses of Parliament."

Order for Squibb to be Clarencieux, and Ryley to be Norroy, Kings of Arms.

"Whereas Sir William Le Neve Knight held the Place and Office of Clarencieux King of Arms (quam diu se bene gesserit in codem Officio), and hath been publicly employed in the Wars against the Parliament, and hath since deserted the said Office and the Kingdom, whereby the same is become void; and whereas, by the Death of Sir Henry St. George Knight, the Place and Office of Norroy King of Arms is become void: It is therefore Ordained, by the Lords and Commons in Parliament assembled, and be it Ordained, That Arthur Squibb Esquire be Clarencieux King of Arms, and that William Ryley Esquire be Norroy King of Arms; and that they, the said Arthur Squibb and William Ryley, and either of them respectively, have the Names, Stiles, Titles, Liberties, Pre-eminencies, and Commodities, to the said several Offices of Clarencieux and Norrey Kings of Arms respectively belonging, for and during the Natural Lives of them the said Arthur Squibb and William Ryley, and either of them, respectively, in as ample Manner and Form, to all Intents and Purposes, as the said Sir William Le Neve, Sir Henry St. George, or any other Persons whatsoever, heretofore having and exercising the said respective Places and Offices, have had and enjoyed the same, together with all Fees, Vestures, Rights, Profits, and Emoluments whatsoever, to the said respective Officers belonging; and Oliver St. John Esquire His Majesty's Solicitor General is hereby authorized and required to prepare several Bills, containing the several Grants of the said several Offices and Places of Clarencieux King of Arms and Norroy King of Arms, unto the said Arthur Squibb and William Ryley, for and during their Natural Lives respectively, in as ample Manner as the said Sir William Le Neve and Sir Henry St. George, or any other Persons heretofore having the said respective Offices of Clarencieux and Norrey, had and enjoyed the same: And it is further Ordained, That the said Bills, so prepared and signed by the said Oliver St. John Esquire His Majesty's Solicitor General, shall be a good Warrant to the Commissioners for the Great Seal of England to make their Recepimus for the same, and, after the Engrossment thereof in usual Form, to pass the said several Grants under the Great Seal of England by immediate Warrant, as fully as if the same had been first signed by His Majesty: And this Ordinance, or the Duplicate thereof, shall be a sufficient Discharge for the preparing and passing of the said several Grants accordingly."

Order for strict keeping the Abbey, at the Funeral of the E. of Essex.

"Whereas there is like to be much Disorder, by the Concourse of People, at the Funeral of the Right Honourable the Earl of Essex deceased, especially in and about the Church: It is therefore Ordered, by the Lords in Parliament assembled, That Captain Thomas Fawconberge and Lawrence Swetnam Esquires, Two of His Majesty's Justices of Peace in Westm'r, shall take the Care and Charge of the Abbey Church, as well for the keeping out of such as are to be kept out, as for the admitting into the Church of such as shall be designed by the Heralds to come in; and likewise for the placing of all such Persons in the Church as the Heralds shall give Directions; and that they call unto their Assistance such and so many of the ablest of the Train Band of Westm'r as they shall think fit and make Choice of; and Captain White is hereby required to send them accordingly; and that all the Constables of Westm'r be ready at the Church upon that Day, with Halbardiers, for the Performance of the said Service according to the Commands of the said Captain Fawconberge and Lawrence Swetnam, both without and within the Church; and that no Woman, of any Quality whatsoever, be admitted into the Church."

Griffin not to print the Proceedings of the Funeral of the E. of Essex.

"Whereas we understand that one Griffin, in The Old Baily, London, is imprinting of the Proceedings of the Funeral of the Right Honourable the Earl of Essex, which is likely to be by some imperfect Copy, and will be to the great Dishonour of the Proceedings: It is therefore Ordered, &c. That the said Impression be suppressed, and not proceeded with any further; nor that any other Person shall presume to print the Proceedings, but by Leave and License from the Kings at Arms, as they will answer their Contempts to this House.

"To the Master and Wardens of the Company of Stationers, London."

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* Deest in Originali.
* Deest in Originali.