House of Lords Journal Volume 8
26 October 1646

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'House of Lords Journal Volume 8: 26 October 1646', Journal of the House of Lords: volume 8: 1645-1647 (1767-1830), pp. 544-546. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=34122 Date accessed: 21 October 2014.


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DIE Lunæ, 26 die Octobris.

PRAYERS, by Mr. Ash.

Comes Manchester, Speaker.

Comes Northumb.
Comes Kent.
Comes Pembrooke.
Comes Warwicke.
Comes Mulgrave.
Comes Midd.
Comes Nottingham.
Comes Stamford.
Comes Denbigh.
Comes Lyncolne.
Comes Sarum.
Ds. Wharton.
Ds. Howard.
Ds. Robertes.
Ds. Maynard.
Ds. North.
Ds. Bruce.
Ds. Grey.
Ds. Willoughby.

Brooke, &c. Petition, in Behalf of Habington.

Upon reading the Petition of John Brooke Gentleman, and Alice Gower Widow, on the Behalf of Lucy Habington, &c. It is Ordered, To be referred to the Committee of Lords and Commons for Sequestrations; and the Concurrence of the House of Commons to be desired herein.

Ld. Herbert's Ordinance, to be Warden of the Stannaries.

An Ordinance was brought, for transferring the Warden of the Stannaries upon the Lord Herbert; which was read Twice, and approved of; and Ordered to be sent to the House of Commons for their Concurrence.

Ordinance for Ld. Howard of Esc. to have the Custody of Ld. Boteler.

Another Ordinance was brought in, for granting the Custody of the Lord Boteler to the Lord Edward Howard of Escrigg; which, being read, was approved of, and Ordered to be sent to the House of Commons, for their Concurrence.

Kentish Frigate, taken at Sea, to be restored to Shakerley.

The Earl of Warwicke, from the Committee for the Admiralty, reported a Paper, which was read:

"That the Opinion of the Committee was, That it be specially recommended to both Houses of Parliament, that The Kentish Frigatt, with her Furniture and Appurtenances belonging to her at the Time of Seizure, be restored and re-delivered to Richard Shakerly, or his Assigns; the Sentence in the Admiralty Court notwithstanding."

The Opinion of this House is, "That the Frigate be restored; but her Furniture and Ordnance to be re-delivered to Ric'd Shakerly, or his Assigns, for the Use of the State."

Hawkins of Dartmouth to be discharged.

Another Paper was read, concerning Marke Hawkins, of Dartmouth.

And this House is of Opinion, "That the said Hawkins be discharged, according to the Report from the Committee."

And the Concurrence of the House of Commons to be desired herein.

E. of Cleveland's Leave prolonged.

Ordered, That this House thinks it fit that the Earl of Cleaveland's Leave be prolonged for Two Months longer, upon the same Conditions as now he is engaged in; and the Concurrence of the House of Commons to be desired herein.

Message to the H. C. about the following Particulars.

A Message was sent to the House of Commons, by Sir Edward Leech and Mr. Page;

To deliver to them the Reports from the Admiralty:

1. Concerning Captain Swanly.

2. Concerning The Kentish Frigatt, That she be restored; provided the Ordnance and Furniture shall be re-delivered to Ric'd Shakerley for the Use of the State.

3. Concerning Mark Hawkins, That this House is of Opinion, that he be discharged according to the Purport of the Committee: Their Concurrence to be desired therein.

4. To deliver to them the Petition of John Brooke, concerning Mr. Habbington's Children: That the Lords have referred it to the Committee of Sequestrations of Lords and Commons, and desire their Concurrence therein.

5. To deliver to them Colonel Manwaring's Petition; with Recommendations.

6. To deliver to them the Ordinance for the Lord Howard to have the Custody of the Lord Boteler; and to desire their Concurrence therein.

7. To deliver to them the Ordinance for the Lord Herbert to be Warden of the Stannaries; and to desire Concurrence therein.

Leigh's Ordinance to be Rector of Astbury.

An Ordinance for Mr. John Leigh to be Rector of the Church (fn. *) of Astbury, in the County of Chester, was read, and approved of; and Ordered to be sent to the House of Commons for their Concurrence.

200,000 l. to be sent speedily for the Scots Army, and some Provision for them in the mean Time.

A Letter from the Scotts Commissioners was read, concerning the speedy sending of the Two Hundred Thousand Pounds for the Supply of the Scotts Army; and that, in the mean Time, some Provision may be made, for the easing the Country of the Burden by their Quartering; and that some Course may be taken, that the Armies may not quarter too near one another.

Hereupon this House Ordered, To send a Message to the House of Commons, That the House of Commons be desired to take a special Care for the speedy providing of that Sum of Money which is for the Payment of the Scotch Army there, in order to their Return into their own Kingdom; and that, in the mean Time, till that Money be provided, such Monies as are already raised for the Maintenance of the Scotch Army may be presently paid; and for the future, Care may be taken to collect and gather in the Taxes appointed for their present Subsistence.

Sir T. Fairfax's Army not to quarter near the Scots Army.

Ordered, That the Quartering of the Forces under the Command of Sir Tho. Fairefax be not in such Countries as are near to the Quarters of the Scotch Army; that so a further Burden be not laid upon those Northern Counties, and all Occasions of Discontent and Difference between the Armies may be prevented.

Message to the H. C. about these Matters.

This was sent down presently to the House of Commons, by Dr. Aylett and Dr. Heath; and desire their Concurrence therein.

Ordinance concerning the Committee at Goldsmiths Hall.

The Lord Robertes presented to this House an Ordinance concerning Gouldsmithes Hall; which being read, it is Ordered to be taken into Consideration To-morrow Morning.

Ordinance to continue the Treasurers at War, &c.

Ordered, That the Committee concerning the continuing the Ordinance for the Treasurers of the Army shall meet To-morrow Morning, at Nine of the Clock, to consider what further Time to enlarge the Ordinance for.

E. of Pembroke to have the Preference of Sir W. Brereton, in renting Cashiobury House.

Upon reading of a Letter from the Committee of Hartfordshire, concerning the recommending the Earl of Pembrooke to have the House and Lands of Cashiobury, upon a Rent; but the Committee returning a Copy of an Order made by the Committee of Lords and Commons for Sequestration, dated the 18th of September, 1646, wherein is mentioned, "that the said House and Lands are let to Sir Wm Brereton, and that he may have also the Goods and Household Stuff belonging to the said House; and that he be permitted to take such reasonable Fire-boot and other Boots as are fit and necessary for a Tenant to have."

Hereupon this House Ordered, That it be recommended to the Committee of Lords and Commons for Sequestrations, that the Earl of Pembrooke may be preferred to rent the said House, with the Park, Lands, and other Things, as the Earl of Essex had it; and that this House doth not think fit that Sir Wm. Brereton should have Fire-boot allowed him, as is mentioned in the Order of the Committee.

Letter from the Scots Commissioners, for the 200,000 l. to be paid for the Scots Army;-for Supplies to be sent to them in the mean Time; -and for Sir T. Fairfax's Army not to to quarter too near theirs.

"For the Right Honnorable the Speaker of the House of Peeres pro Tempore.

"Right Honnorable,

"It is very well knowne to the Honnorable Houses, that the Scottish Army, receiveing noe Pay for these Six Moneths past, have bin forced to take Free Quarter from the Country People, whereby the Northerne Countyes have bin extreamly exhausted and impoverished, and the Necessityes of that Army in a very greate Measure unsupplyed: Wee had rested sattisfyed that these Things had bin already represented to both Houses of Parliament, and that the Inconveniencyes which might followe thereupon were sufficiently understood; but being advertised by severall Letters of the growing Necessityes of the Army, and the insupportable Burthens of those Parts where they doe quarter, for our further Exoneration, and preventing the great Dangers that may ensue, wee have judged it necessary to acquaint the Honnorable Houses, that it is rumored abroade in the Northerne Parts, that the Country People have a Designe to surprise and injure our Forces as they lye dispersed in their severall Quarters. It were a Matter of noe greate Difficulty for the Scottish Army in a forceible Manner to prevent or suppresse any such Insurrection; but they have resolved to preferre the Publique Good, and happy Correspondence betweene the Kingdomes, to their owne Safety: In Pursuance whereof, they have written Letters to the Committees of Yorkesheir and other Countyes, earnestly desireing their Concurrence to prevent such Inconveniencyes as may endanger the Peace and Union betwixt the Kingdomes; and have given Direction to the Generall Officers of the Army, to conferre with the Gentlemen of the Country, and to use their uttmost Indeavors to remove all Jealousyes and Mistakes, and perticulerly to acquaint them how earnestly desireous they are, and have bin for above these Two Moneths past, to remove out of this Kingdome, and to retourne to their Native Country: Upon which Considerations, it is our renewed earnest Request to the Honnorable Houses, that the First 200000 l. may bee speedily raised and sent to the Army, and the Security for the other agreed upon, that they may forthwith march out of this Kingdome; or otherwise that, in the meane Tyme, some Course may bee taken for supplying that Army, and easing of the Country; that the Money bee raised, whereby the greate Danger that is like to arise to the Disturbance of the Peace betwixt the Kingdomes may bee prevented; for, if the Scottish Army shall bee enforced to enlarge their Quarters Southward, and in the meane Tyme Sir Thomas Fairefaxe's Army (as wee are informed) doe enlarge their Quarters Northward, into those harrased and exhausted Countyes, it is easy to foresee that these Kingdomes may unhappily bee againe embroyled into new and greater Troubles then they have yet seene, and what greate Advantage wil bee given to Forraigne Nations, to make Use of our divided Interrests to the Ruine of both: All which, out of the Conscience of our Duty, and sincere Affection to the Peace and Happines of these Kingdomes, wee have thought ourselves bound tymeously to make knowne, and, against all Jealousyes and Misapprehensions, to give perfect and full Assurance, that, whatsoever Reports or Suggestions there may bee to the contrary, noe Perswasion, Terror, Plott, or Combination, shall ever bee able, directly or indirectly, to divide or withdrawe the Kingdome of Scotland from a firme Conjunction with this Kingdome; but, as they have done hitherto, soe for the future shall continue, in Pursuance of the Ends of our solemne League and Covenant, against all Opposition whether Forraigne or Intestine, and to promove and settle the Peace of both Kingdomes; being very confident that the Honnorable Houses, in their Wisdome, shall seriously apply themselves to the effectuall Meanes for preventing the Dangers and Evills represented; for hastening the Retourne of our Army, and sattisfying all our just Desires; for setling the Peace of these Kingdomes, which with constant Zeale and servent Affection shall ever bee carefully endeavored by

Worcester House, the 24th of October, 1646.

"Your Lordships Most humble Servaunts,

"Loudoun. Lauderdail.

"Charles Erskin.

"Hew. Kennedy. Ro. Barclay."

Adjourn.

House adjourned till 10a cras.

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* Deest in Originali.