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House of Lords Journal Volume 8
19 December 1646

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'House of Lords Journal Volume 8: 19 December 1646', Journal of the House of Lords: volume 8: 1645-1647 (1767-1830), pp. 617-619. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=34167 Date accessed: 30 September 2014.


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DIE Saturni, 19 die Decembris.

PRAYERS, by Mr. Sallawey.

Domini præsentes fuerunt;

Comes Manchester, Speaker.

Comes Northumb.
Comes Kent.
Comes Rutland.
Comes Pembrooke.
Comes Sarum.
Comes Warwicke.
Comes Mulgrave.
Comes Lyncolne.
Comes Suffolke.
L. Viscount Say & Seale.
Comes Denbigh.
L. Viscount Hereford.
Comes Midd.
Ds. North.
Ds. Hunsdon.
Ds. Robertes.
Ds. Willoughby.
Ds. Berkeley.
Ds. Wharton.
Ds. Bruce.
Ds. Mountague.
Ds. Maynard.
Ds. Grey.
Ds. Dacres.

Message from the H. C. with the Articles about the Scots marching Home; with Ordinances, &c. for paying them; and for General Skippon to be Governor of Newcastle.

A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Mr. Pierrepont, &c.

1. To desire their Lordships Concurrence in the Alterations in the Articles concerning the marching of the Scotch Army out of England; videlicet, the 1st, 13, and 15 Articles. (Here enter them.)

Agreed to.

2. An Ordinance for Fifty Thousand Pounds, Part of the First One Hundred Thousand Pounds of the latter Two Hundred Thousand Pounds, to be paid at Gouldsmithes Hall. (Here enter it.)

Agreed to.

* 2. An Acquittance concerning the Payment of the First Two Hundred Thousand Pounds to our Brethren of Scotland. (Here enter it.)

Agreed to, as a Form.

3. Another Acquittance, concerning the Payment of the First Two Hundred Thousand Pounds to our Brethren of Scotland. (Here enter it.)

Agreed to, to be the Form.

4. Another Acquittance, concerning the Payment of the Two Hundred Thousand Pounds to our Brethren of Scotland. (Here enter it.)

Agreed to, to be the Form.

5. That Major General Skippon be Governor of Newcastle.

Agreed to, with a Proviso.

6. Hostages for to be given to our Brethren of Scotland.

Sir John Brownlo to be excused.

7. Votes in Answer to the Scotts Paper.

(Here enter it.)

Agreed to.

The Answer returned was:

Answer.

That this House agrees to all the Particulars now brought up, except to the Hostages, and Major General Skippon to be Governor of Newcastle; to which this House will send an Answer by Messengers of their own.

These Papers to be communicated to the Scots Commissioners.

Ordered, That all the Particulars aforesaid be communicated to the Scotts Commissioners this Afternoon, by the Members of this House that are of the Committee of both † Kingdoms.

Petition from the City of London.

This Day Alderman Addams (accompanied with other Aldermen and Common Council-men of the City of London) presented a Petition and Representation to this House; which were received, and read publicly.

And the Company withdrew.

The House went upon the present Consideration of the Petition from the Lord Mayor, Aldermen, and Common Council of the City of London, &c.

And the Question being put, "Whether Thanks shall be given to the Lord Mayor, Aldermen, Common Council, and the Citizens of the City of London, upon the whole Matter of their Petitions ?"

And it was Resolved in the Affirmative.

The next Question put was, "Whether Thanks shall be given to the Lord Mayor, Aldermen, and Common Council of the City of London for their Petition ?"

And it was Resolved in the Affirmative.

Ordered, That it be in the Answer also expressed, That this House will take the Particulars in the Petitions into Consideration."

Answer to it.

The House appointed the Speaker to draw up an Answer, according to the Contents of these Votes, and offer the same to the House: Which accordingly was done, and read, and approved; videlicet,

"The Lords are so fully satisfied with the constant and real Expressions of the Fidelity and good Affec tions of the Lord Mayor, Aldermen, Common Coun cil, and Citizens of the City of London, as they have commanded me to give hearty Thanks upon the whole Matter of the Petitions presented by you from the Lord Mayor, Aldermen, Common Council, and Citi zens of the City of London, and to let you know, that they will take the Particulars of your Petitions unto the speedy Consideration"

The Aldermen, &c were called in, and the Speaker read the same unto them

Petition and Answers to be printed

Resolved, That these Petitions and the Answer shall be printed by the City Printer

Ordered, That these Petitions delivered in this Day by the City of London shall be taken into Conside ration on Tuesday next

Hostages

Ordered, That Sir Richard Erle shall be nominated in the Place of Sir John Brownloe

Sir L. Watson and Sir J Corbett

Ordered, That the Cause of Sir Lewis Watson, against Sir John Corbett, shall be heard on Monday next

Lloyd's Cause in the Exchequer

Ordered, That the Proceedings in the Cause of Mr. Lloyd, in the Exchequer, shall be staid till the Cause be determined in this House

Articles about the Scots marching Home

The House made some Additions of Names, to be Sub-treasurers in the Articles for the marching of the Scotts Army out of the Kingdom, which were Agreed to, and ORDERED to be sent to the House of Commons for then Concurrence

Message to the H. C. about the following Particulars

A Message was sent to the House of Commons, by Doctor Aylett and Doctor Heath

1 To desire their Concurrence in the Proviso to be added to the Ordinance for Major General Skippon to be Governor of Newcastle

3 To desire then Concurrence, that, in the Ordi nance concerning Hostages, Sir John Brownlo to be dis pensed with, and Sir Richard Erle to be put in his Place, wherein then Concurrence is desired

4 To desire that Mr Wm Thompson and Mr John Drummon may be added to be Treasurers in the Articles of the Treaty with Scotts, for the marching out of then Army

Articles about the Scots marching Home &c

"The 1st Article That Four Hundred Thousand Pounds be paid to the Kingdom of Scotland, in Manner hereafter expressed, for the Pay of their Army brought into the Kingdom of England for the Assistance of this Kingdom, and to their Forces that came into the Garrison of Berwick by virtue of the Treaties between the Two Kingdoms, of the 29th of November, and One Thousand Six Hundred Forty three, and for due Recompence and full Satisfiction for all then Puns, Hazard, and Charges, which they have undergone, and for whatever else the Kingdom of Scotland can claim of the Kingdom of England by virtue of the said Treaties

"The 13th Article That when the Scotts Army and Forces are marching out of and the English Forces entering into Newcastle and Tynmouth Castle, and that there be Five Hundred of the Garrison appointed by both Houses of Parliament entered into Newcastle, and not above Five Hundred of the Scotts Forces remaining therein, that Hostages shall then be given by the Kingdom of England to the Kingdom of Scotland, for Assurance that the latter Hundred Thousand Pounds of the Two Hundred Thousand Pounds shall be paid unto the Kingdom of Scotland on the North Side of the Works of Newcastle, within a Mile of the sud Works, within Six Days after the Delivery of Newcastle, Tynmouth Castle, and Places aforesaid, in Manner, as aforesaid, to such Persons, and in such Manner, as is expressed in the Sixth and Seventh Articles for the Payment of the First Hundred Thousand Pounds, and Acquittances are thereupon to be given, as in the said Seventh Article is expressed

"The 15th Article That, upon the coming of the latter Hundred Thousand Pounds out of Newcastle, Hostages shall be delivered to the Kingdom of England by the Kingdom of Scotland, for Assurance that all the Scottish Armies and Forces shall march out of the Kingdom of England within Ten Days after the Payment of the latter Hundred Thousand Pounds, that all Monuments, Tokens, and Shews of Hostility, upon the Borders of the Two Kingdoms, be taken away, that the Fortifications of barwick and Carlisle be reduced to the same Condition they were before the late Troubles, and that the Works be not repaued, but suffered to decay, according as is especially provided and agreed to between the Two Kingdoms by the Articles of the large Treaty, and that the said Towns be quitted, and all Ordnance, Arms, and Ammunition therein, belonging to the Kingdom of England, be within the said Ten Days delivered unto such Persons as shall be appointed by both Houses of the Parliament of England, or such as shall be by them, or any authorized by them for that Purpose, appointed to receive the same, who also are appointed to see Barwicke and Carlisle flighted in Manner as aforesaid, and are hereby authorized to call in the Aid of the Country for the doing thereof, as they shall see Cause, and likewise the Parliament of Scotland, or any by them authorized, are to appoint such Persons as they shall think fit to see this performed"

Order for 50 000l Part of the first 100,000l of the lattes 200 000l to be paid to them

"Ordered, by the Lords and Commons assembled in Parliament, That, in Discharge of Part of the lat ter Two Hundred Thousand Pound, Residue of the Four Hundred Thousand Pounds for which the Public Faith of the Kingdom of England is given, the Sum of Fifty Thousand Pounds shall be paid, out of the Receipts, of Monies at Gouldsmiths Hall, in Part of the First Hundred Thousand Pounds of the said latter Two Hundred Thousand Pounds, at the same Time the said First Hundred Thousand Pounds is to be paid"

Four of Acquittances from the Scot on Payment of Money to them.

"Know all Men by these Presents, That we, John Earl of Loudoun Lord Chancellor of the Kingdom of Scotland, John Earl of Lauderdaill, Sir Charles Ershyn Knight, Hew Kennedy and Robert Barclay Esquires, Commissioners from the Kingdom of Scot land, have, according to certain Articles of Agreement agreed upon between Committees of Lords and Commons of the Parliament of England and Commissioners of the Parliament of Scotland, autho rized thereunto by the Parliaments of each Kingdom respectively, and in Pursuance of the same Articles, received of William Gibbes Esquire Alderman of the City of London, and Thomas Noell and Francis Ashe Esquires, appointed, by in Ordinance of both Houses of the Sixteenth of November last, to be Treasurers of the Monies raised upon the Sale of Bishops Lands, the Sum of Twelve Thousand Pounds Sterling, in Part of the First Hundred Thousand Pounds appointed by the said Articles to be paid by the Kingdom of England to the Kingdom of Scotland, which we do hereby acknowledge to have received, in the Name, and for the Use, of the Kingdom of Scotland, and do accept as Part of the said First Hundred Thousand Pounds to be paid as aforesaid: In Witness whereof, we have hereunto put our Hands and Seals, this Day of, 1646.

"In Presence of"

"Know all Men by these Presents, That, upon the Day of, I, Adam Hepburne Knight, Treasurer of the Scotts Army in England, have (according to certain Articles of Agreement, agreed upon between Committees of Lords and Commons of the Parliament of England and Commissioners of the Parliament of Scotland, authorized thereunto by the Parliament of each Kingdom respectively, bearing Date the Day of, and in Pursuance of the same, and in the Time, Place, and Manner therein prescribed and appointed) received of William Gibbes Esquire Alderman of the City of London, and Thomas Noell and Francis Ashe Esquires, appointed by an Ordinance of both Houses of the 16th of November last to be Treasurers for the Monies arising upon the Sale of Bishops Lands, the Sum of Eighty-eight Thousand Pounds Sterling, which, together with Twelve Thousand Pounds received at London by the Commissioners of Scotland, in the Name, and for the Use, of the Kingdom of Scotland, for which the said Commissioners have given an Acquittance, is in full Payment of the First Hundred Thousand Pounds appointed and agreed to be paid by the Kingdom of England to the Kingdom of Scotland by the said Articles of Agreement: In Witness whereof, I have hereunto put my Hand, this Day of Sealed and delivered, in the Presence of"

"Know all Men by these Presents, That, upon the Day of, I, Adam Hepburne Knight, Treasurer of the Scotts Army in England, have (according to certain Articles of Agreement, agreed upon * between the Committees of Lords and Commons of the Parliament of England and Commissioners of the Parliament of Scotland, authorized thereunto by the Parliaments of each Kingdom respectively, bearing Date the Day of, and in Pursuance of the same, and in the Time, Place and Manner therein prescribed and appointed) received of William Gibbes Esquire Alderman of the City of London, and Thomas Noell and Francis Ashe Esquires, appointed, by an Ordinance of both Houses of the 16th of November last, to be Treasurers for the Monies arising upon the Sale of Bishops † Lands, the Sum of One Hundred Thousand Pounds Sterling, which is in full Payment of the Second Hundred Thousand Pounds appointed and agreed to be paid by the Kingdom of England to the Kingdom of Scotland by the said Articles: In Witness whereof, I have hereunto put my Hand and Seal, this Day of Sealed and delivered"

Votes in Answer to the Scots Paper, desiring Assistance from England; and about paying of Quarters.

"Resolved, by the Lords and Commons in Parliament assembled, That the Substance of the Answer to that Part of the Scotts Paper, reported 12 Decembris, 1646, concerning the Assistance desired by our Brethren of Scotland, shall be,

"That both Houses do Declare, That this Business hath no Relation to the Business now in Hand concerning the marching of their Armies and Forces out of the Kingdom, and the Quitting and Delivering-up of the Garrisons: When that shall be done, that then the Houses will take that Business concerning the Assistance desired into due Consideration.

"Resolved, &c. That the Substance of the Answer of the last Part of the Scotts Paper concerning the paying of Quarter shall be,

"That, after the Payment of the First Hundred Thousand Pounds, the Army shall require or take no Money from the Country, nor no Goods whatsoever; but shall pay for all such Provisions as they shall receive from the Country."

Huc usque exam.

per nos,

T. Lyncolne.

Ed. Mountagu.

Footnotes

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Origin. Kings.
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