House of Lords Journal Volume 8
16 January 1647

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'House of Lords Journal Volume 8: 16 January 1647', Journal of the House of Lords: volume 8: 1645-1647 (1767-1830), pp. 676. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=34191 Date accessed: 30 August 2014.


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DIE Saturni, 16 die Januarii.

PRAYERS, by Mr. Strickland.

Domini præsentes fuerunt:

Comes Manchester, Speaker.

Comes Kent.
Comes Sarum.
Comes Mulgrave.
Comes Warwicke.
L. Viscount Hereford.
Comes Northumb.
Comes Lyncolne.
Comes Rutland.
Comes Midd.
Ds. Howard.
Ds. Grey.
Ds. North.
Ds. Wharton.
Ds. Hunsdon.
Ds. Dacres.
Ds. Bruce.
Ds. Willoughby.
Ds. Maynard.

Sanders and Bedwell, in Error.

The House heard the Counsel argue the Errors, in the Writ of Error between Sanders Plaintiff and Bedwell Defendant: And it is Ordered and Adjudged by this House, That the Judgement given in the Court of King's Bench is hereby ratified and confirmed in all Points; and that the Record be remitted into the Court of King's Bench, that so Execution may be taken out accordingly.

Answer from the H. C.

Mr. Hakewill, &c. return with this Answer from the House of Commons:

That they will send an Answer, by Messengers of their own, to the Message sent Yesterday.

Doctor Aylett and Doctor Heath return with this Answer from the House of Commons:

That they will send an Answer, by Messengers of their own, concerning the Ordinance for making the Earl of Manchester Lord Keeper of the Great Seal of England, and the Commission for Hearing of Causes.

Message from thence, to expedite the Ordinance appointing Commissioners of the Great Seal.

A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Denzell Holles Esquire:

To desire their Lordships would please to pass an Ordinance lately brought up, for placing the Custody of the Great Seal of England in Commissioners; and to put their Lordships in Mind of a Vote formerly made, and sent down from this House, whereby their Lordships did put an Incapacity upon the Members of the Houses to hold any such Places; and they desire their Lordships to give a speedy Passage to that Ordinance, that so the Business of the Kingdom may not be obstructed.

The Answer returned was:

Answer.

That this House will send an Answer to this Message by Messengers of their own.

Papers concerning the Treaty between the Commissioners sent to Ireland and the E. of Ormond.

Next, the House read the Papers containing the Account of the Negotiation of the Commissioners sent into Ireland to treat with the Earl of Ormond, (fn. *) being many.

Ordered, That the Commissioners sent into Ireland shall have Thanks returned them, from this House, for their Care, Pains, and Faithfulness, in this Business; and to acquaint the House of Commons herewith, and to deliver them all the Papers, being Fifty-two.

Message from the H. C. for a Conference about the GreatSeal.

A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Sir Thomas Dacres, &c.

To desire their Lordships would please to give a Conference, so soon as it stands with their Lordships Conveniency, concerning the Great Seal of England.

The Question being put, "Whether to give a present Conference with the House of Commons?"

And the Votes were equal.

The Answer returned was:

Answer.

That this House doth appoint a Conference with the House of Commons, on Monday Morning, at Eleven of the Clock.

Message to the H. C. with the Papers concerning the Treaty with the E. of Ormond, and to remind them of an Ordinance

A Message was sent to the House of Commons, by Mr. Hakwill, &c.

To deliver to them the Papers read this Day, of the Negotiation of the Commissioners sent into Ireland, with the Sense of the House, to give Thanks to the said Commissioners.

2. To put them in Mind of the Ordinance concerning the Militia of London.

Letter from the Committee sent to the King.

A Letter from the Earl of Pembrooke, &c. was read; and Ordered, That a Letter be written to the General, according to the Instructions, as is desired in the Letter.

Instructions for the L. L. of Ireland.

Ordered, That this House shall fit on Monday next, in the Afternoon, concerning the Irish Instructions.

Letter from the Committee sent to the King, desiring Orders may be given to Sir T. Fairfax. &c. to furnish them with Troops to guard the King's Person.

For the Right Honourable the Earl of Manchester, Speaker of the House of Peers pro Tempore. These.

"Pembrooke & Mountg.
B. Denbich.
Edw. Mountagu. Post Haste, Post.

"My Lord,

Whereas, by our Instructions, we are to give Directions to Major General Skippon, to furnish us with such Horse and Dragoons of those under his Command, for a Convoy, to conduct in Safety the King's Person from Newcastle to Holmby House; and whereas we are likewise appointed, by the same Instructions, to send to Sir Thomas Fairefax, for such additional Forces as shall be necessary: We do desire that the House will be pleased to send their Lordships Letters of Directions to the General and to Major General Skippon accordingly. We remain,

Northampton, 15 January, 1646.

"My Lord,

Your Lordship's humble Servants,

Pembrooke & Mountg.
B. Denbigh.
Edw. Mountagu."

Adjourn.

House adjourned till 9 Monday Morning next.

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* Origin. were read, being many.