DIE Lunæ, 25 die Januarii
PRAYERS, by Mr Sallowey
Domini præsentes fuerunt
Comes Manchester, Speaker
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Comes Northumb
Comes Worwicke
Comes Kent
Comes Midd
Comes Lyncolne
Comes Suffolke
Comes Rutland
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Ds Grey
Ds North
Ds Howard
Ds Maynard
Ds Hunsdon
Ds Willoughby
Ds Berkeley
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Letter &c from the Parliament of Scotland
The Speaker acquainted the House, "That this
Morning he received a Letter from the Parliament of
Scotland, which was opened, and read, and likewise
a Declaration and another Paper were read
(Here enter them)
The House was adjourned into a Committee during
Pleasure, to read them, and take the particular Desires
into Consideration
The House was resumed
Votes concerning the Safety of the Kings Person, and the Succession and that there shall be no Change in the Constitution
And the House expressed their Sense upon these Particulars by these Votes
"Resolved, That there be no Harm, Prejudice, Injury, nor Violence, done to His Royal Person
Resolved, That there be no Change of Government, other than has been these Three Years past
Resolved, That His Posterity be in no Ways prejudiced in their lawful Succession to the Crown and
Government of these Kingdoms"
The Question being put, "Whether these Votes
now expressed shall be sent in a Letter to the
Kingdom of Scotland?"
It was Resolved in the Affirmative
Desires of the Scots for the King to be pressed to agree to the Propositions;
1 The House was adjourned into a Committee during Pleasure, and the Desire of the Kingdom of Scotland was read, "That a Committee of both Kingdomes
be appointed to attend His Majesty, and presse Him
further for granting the Propositions of Peace, and
in case of His Refusall, to advise and determine what
is further necessary for continuing and strengthning
the Union betwixt the Kingdoms according to the
Covenant and Treaties, and that no Peace nor Agreement be made ether Kingdome with the Kinge
without the other, according to the late Treaty betwixt the Kingdomes"
Agreed to
For those Scot who have Places about the King to keep them;
2 That such of the Scottish Nation as hes Place
or Charge about the Kinge (excepting such as stand
excepted in the Propositions of Peace) may attend
and exercise the same, and that none shall be debaried from having Accesse to attend His Majesty
who have Warrard from the Parliament of ether
Kingdom respectively, or from the Comittee of
ether Parliament thereunto authorised"
for each Kingdom to assist the other,
3 It is desired, that one Kingdom assist the other,
in case they be troubled from within or from without
for this Agreement"
Agreed to
and for an Allowance to support their Forces employed against the Irish Rebells.
4 That the Kingdome of England would speedily
condiscend and agree upon some Competency of Entertainment for the Forces which we are necessitated
to keepe up to suppresse the Irish Rebeils, whom b
the large Treaty they are bound to suppresse"
Message to the H. C. to sit awhile
A Message was sent to the House of Commons, by
Sir Edward Leech and Mr Hakewill
To desire them they would fit a while, for their Lordships have some Business of Consequence to impart to
them
Resolutions concerning the Desires of the Scots.
To the First Cause of the Second Desire, it is Resolved, That, when the King's House comes to be settled, their Lordships will do that which shall be thought
fit, Regard being had to this Desire of the Parliament of
Scotland
To the Second Clause of the Second Desire, it is
Resolved, That this House agrees to the Second Clause
of the Second Desire, with this Addition, "That when
any Committee or Commissioners from the Kingdom
of Scotland have Occasion to address themselves to
the King, that they first give Notice thereof to the
Committee or Commissioners of the Parliament of
England"
Resolved, That this House agrees to the Third Desire
To the Fourth Desire, it is Resolved, That the
House have been, and will be, ready to make good
the Treaty between the Two Kingdoms, and will be
ready to confer with any Committee as they shall authorize, concerning the Particulars
These Papers to be communicated to the H. C. and an Answer to the Scots to be prepared.
Ordered, That the Papers received this Day be
communicated to the House of Commons, at a Conference, and acquaint them with the Votes of this House
thereupon, and desire their Concurrence therein, and in
case they shall agree, then to let them know, that this
House thinks it fit that a Committee be appointed to
frame the said Votes into a Letter, to be sent unto the
Parliament of Scotland, in Answer thereunto
Committee to join with One of the H. C. for that Purpose
The House nominated these Lords following, to join
with a proportionable Number of the House of Commons, for the Purpose aforesaid
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Comes Warwicke. Comes Northumb. L Viscount Say & Seale
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Comes Lyncolne
Comes Manchester
Ds North
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Any Three.
Message to be H. C. for a Conference about it; and to sit P.M.
A Message was sent to the House of Commons, by
Sir Edward Leech and Mr Hakewill
1 To desire they would fit this Afternoon
2 To desire a Conference, in the Painted Chamber,
this Afternoon, at Four of the Clock, concerning some
Papers received from the Kingdom of Scotland
Steward and De Franchi.
Ordered, That the Judges Report concerning Mr
Steward's Business shall be taken into Consideration on
Saturday Morning, and Counsel be heard, if it be de
sired, concerning the same
Goring House to be prepared for the Fr. Ambassador.
The Speaker acquainted the House, "That Monseu
Belheure, the French Ambassador, sent to him, to
him know of his coming to London, and that,
soon as his Attendants and Accommodations com
from Newcastle, he intends to desire Audience of the
Houses"
Hereupon it is Ordered, That the House of Commons be put in Mind of the former Message sent down
to them, for Goringe (fn. *) house to be made ready for him
Letter from the Parliament of Scotland, with the following Declaration and Desires.
For the Right Honnorable the Speaker of the
House of Peeres; to bee comunicated to
both Houses of the Parliament of England
assembled at Westm'r.
Right Honnorable,
Our Commissioners at London and Newcastle haveinge receaved from the Honnorable Houses the Vote
of the First of January, and communicate the same
to us, wee have considered of it as a Business of very
greate Concernment to both Nations; and therefore
have resolved upon the enclosed Declaration and Desires, whereby it will appeare how willing wee are to
comply with the Resolutions of both Houses, how
desireous to remove all Jealousyes, for strengtheninge
the Peace and Union, and maintayninge a good Understanding betwixt the Kingdomes, soe firmely tyed
by solemne League and Covenant; and how confident that they will sattisfy our reasonable Desires,
and make the Integrity of their Proceedings and
Resolutions in all this Business concerninge His Majesty appeare, either by Declaration or otherwayes, as
in their Wisdome they shall thinke fitt, whereby noe
Occasion of Calumny may bee left to the wicked
Enemyes of either Nation. And as God hes blessed
the joynt Endeavors of both dureinge our Armyes
Aboad in that Kingdome soe it will bee a greate Encouragment for us to hope for the Continuance of
the same Blessing for Tymes comeing, that our Resolutions bee knowne to bee one, att our Removeinge, in relation to all the Ends contayned in our mutuall League and Covenant: And if any Difficulty
occure there (for gaininge of Tyme), wee desire that
the Honnorable Houses may bee pleased to send particular Instructions to their Commissioners at Newcastle, with whome wee shall authorize ours to concurre, for the just Sattisfaction of both Kingdomes.
Wee rest
Your affectionate Freind and Servaunt,
Ed'r. 16 Januarii, 1647.
"Crafurd Lindsay,
"Pr't Parliament.
For the Parliament of England."
Declaration of the Kingdom of Scotland, for the Safety of the King's Person, and the Succession in his Family; and approving of His being removed to Holdenby.
"Declaration of the Kingdome of Scotland.
Whereas it pleased God to joyne the Kingdomes
of Scotland, England, and Ireland, in a solemne League
and Covenant, for Reformation and Defence of Religion, the Honnor and Happines of the King, and
their owne Peace and Safety, and, in Pursuance thereof, the Scottish Army being in the Kingdome of England, the King's Majesty came to their Quarters before Newarke, and professed He came there with a
full and absolute Intention to give all just Sattisfaction to the joynt Desires of both Kingdomes,
and with noe Thought either to continue this unnaturall Warre any longer, or to make Devision betwixt
the Kingdomes; but to comply with His Parliaments,
and those entrusted by them, in every Thinge, for
setling of Truth and Peace, and that He would apply Himselfe totally to the Councells and Advises
of His Parliaments; which He did not only professe
verbally to the Committee of Estates with the Scottish
Army, but alsoe in His severall Letters and Declarations under His Hand to the Committee of Estates
of Scotland, and unto the Two Houses of the Parliament of England, respectively: In Consideration
whereof, and of the Reallity of His Intentions and
Resolutions, which He declared did proceed from
noe other Ground then the deepe Sense of the bleeding Condition of His Kingdomes, the Committees
of the Kingdome of Scotland and Generall Officers
of the Scottish Army declared, to Himselfe and to
the Kingdome of England, their receiveinge of His
Royall Person to bee in these Tearmes (which is the
Truth, notwithstandinge what may bee suggested or
alleadged to the contrairy by any within or without
this Kingdome); and presented to Him, that the only
Way of His owne Happines, and Peace of His
Kingdomes, under God, was to make good His
Professions soe solemnly renewed to both Kingdomes:
Thereafter; not only were Propositions of Peace
(which after serious and mature Deliberation were
agreed upon) tendred to Him in the Name of both
Kingdomes, for His Royall Assent thereunto; but
alsoe (fn. *) the Chiefe Judicatoryes of this Kingdome, both
Civill and Ecclesiastick, made their humble and earnest Addresses to His Majesty, by Supplications, Letters, and Commissioners for that End, and fully represent all the Prejudices and Inconveniencyes of
the Delay or Refusall of His Assent; and in perticuler, that this Kingdome would bee necessitated to
joyne with the Kingdome of England, conforme to
the League and Covenant, in providing for the present and future Security of both Kingdomes, and
setling the Government of both, as might most conduce to the Good of both. And the Parliament of
Scotland, being now to retire their Army out of England, have againe, for their further Exoneration,
sent Commissioners to represent their renewed Desires to His Majesty, with the Danger may ensue by
His Delay or Refusall to graunt the same; and that,
till then, there was Danger to the Cause, to His Majesty, to this Kingdome, and to the Union betwixt
the Kingdomes, by His comeing into Scotland; and
that therefore there would bee a joynt Course taken
by both Kingdomes concerning the Disposall of His
Person: And considering that His Majesty, by His
Answere to the Propositions of Peace in August last,
and alsoe by His late Message sent to the Two Houses,
and by His Warrant communicated to the Estates of
this Kingdome, hes expressed His Desires to bee
neare to the Two Houses of Parliament; and seing
alsoe the Parliament of England have communicated
to the Scotts Commissioners at Newcastle, and by
them to this Kingdome, their Resolution that Holdenby House, in the County of Northampton, is the
Place which the Houses thinke fitt for the King to
come unto, there to remaine with such Attendants
aboute Him as both Houses of Parliament shall appoint, with Respect had to the Safety and Preservation of His Royall Person, in the Preservation and
Defence of the true Religion and Libertyes of the
Kingdomes according to the Covenant: Therefore,
and in regard of His Majesty's not giveing a sattisfactory Answere to the Propositions as yet, and out
of their earnest Desire to keepe a right Understanding betwixt the Kingdomes, to prevent new Troubles within the same, to sattisfy the Desire of His
Majesty, of the Two Houses of the Parliament of
England, and of this Kingdome, for His Residence
in some of His Houses neere the Parliament of England, to prevent Misinformation, and to give Sattisfaction to all, the Estates of the Parliament of the
Kingdome of Scotland doe declare their Concurrence
for the King's Majesty' goeing to Holdenby House,
or some other of His Houses in or aboute London as
shal bee thought fitt, there to remaine untill He give
Sattisfaction to both Kingdomes in the Propositions
of Peace; and that, in the Interim, there bee noe
Harme, Prejudice, Injury, nor Violence, done to His
Royall Person; that there bee noe Change of Government, other then hes bin these Three Yeares
past; and that His Posterity bee in noe Wayes prejudiced in their lawfull Succession to the Crowne
and Government of these Kingdomes. And as this
is the cleere Intention and full Resolution of the
Kingdome of Scotland, according to their Interest and
Duty, in relation to the King's Majesty, soe they are
confident (from the same Grounds and manifold De
clarations of the Parliament of England) that the
same is the Resolution of their Brethren; and at such
a Tyme they doe expect a renewed Declaration
thereof, and that they will give brotherly and just
Sattisfaction to the Desires herewith sent; like as the
Kingdome of Scotland doe hereby assure their Brethren
of England, that it shal bee their constant Indeavor
to keepe, continue, and strengthen, the Union and
Peace betwixt the Kingdomes, according to the Covenant and Treatyes, extracted from the Records of
Parliament, subscribed by the Earle of Crafurd and
Lindesay, High Treasurer of Scotland, and President
to the Parliament; wittnessinge thereunto the Subscription and Signe Manuell of me, Sir Alexand'r
Gibsone of Dury Knight, Clerke of our Soveraigne's
Rolls, Register, and Councell.
"Alex. Gibsone,
Cl's Reg'ri."
Their Desires for the Propositions to be pressed to the King, for the Scots about the King to hold their Places, &c.
"Desires of the Kingdome of Scotland.
"That the Committee of both Kingdomes bee appointed to attend His Majesty, and pressing Him
further for graunting the Propositions of Peace; and,
in case of His Refusall, to advise and determine what
is further necessary, for continueinge and strengthening the Union betweene the Kingdomes, according
to the Covenant and Treatyes; and that noe Peace
nor Agreement bee made by either Kingdome with
the King without the other, according to the late
Treaty betwixt the Kingdomes.
"Next it is desired, that such of the Scottish Nation as hath Place or Charge aboute the King (excepting such as stand excepted in the Propositions
of Peace) may attend and exercise the same; and
that none shal bee debarred from haveing Accesse to
attend His Majesty, who have Warrant from the
Parliaments of either Kingdome respectively, or from
the Committee of either Parliament thereunto authorised.
"It is desired, that the One Kingdome assist the
other, in case they bee troubled from within or from
without, for this Agreement.
"That the Kingdome of England would speedily condiscend and agree upon some Competency of Entertainment for the Forces which wee are necessitated
to keepe upp, to suppresse the Irish Rebells, whome
by the large Treaty they are bound to suppresse.
Ed. 16 Janu. 1647.
"Craford & Linsey,
Pre. Par."
Post meridiem.
PRAYERS, by Mr. Sallawey.
Domini præsentes fuerunt:
Comes Manchester, Speaker.
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Comes Kent. Comes Midd. Comes Rutland. Comes Suffolke. L. Viscount Say & Seale. Comes Warwicke. Comes Northumb. |
Ds. Howard. Ds. Willoughby. Ds. North. Ds. Hunsdon. Ds. Maynard. Ds. Bruce. Ds. Dacres. |
Answer from the H. C.
Sir Edward Leech and Mr. Hakewill return with this
Answer:
That the House of Commons will sit this Afternoon,
and give a Conference, as is desired; and they will send
an Answer to the rest by Messengers of their own.
Heads for the Conference about the Declaration, &c. from the Scots.
The Speaker, at this Conference, is to let them
know, "That this House hath received a Letter, with
a Declaration and Desires from the Parliament of
Scotland, which their Lordships take as a great Testimony of their Reality and Faithfulness; upon which
this House hath made Votes, wherein the Concurrence of the House of Commons is desired; and if
they shall agree therein, to let them know, that this
House hath named a Committee of Six Lords, to
draw up a Letter, according to those Votes, to be
sent to the Parliament of Scotland; and desire they
would nominate a proportionable Number of their
House, to join with them therein, and to meet as soon
as may (fn. *) be, that so the Answer may be sent away
speedily, in regard the Scotts Garrison do quit Newcastle on Saturday next."
The House of Commons being ready in the Painted
Chamber, the House was adjourned during Pleasure,
and the Lords went to the Conference; which being
ended, the House was resumed.
Eales's Suit against the Stationers stayed, for seizing scandalous Books in his Shop.
This Day Eales and the Master and Wardens of the
Company of Stationers were called in, to know upon
what Ground the said Eales arrested the Stationers.
And it appeared by the Declaration, that the Action
was for Battery.
And it was alledged by the Stationers, "That it was
because they proceeded in seizing of scandalous
Books, according to an Ordinance of Parliament."
And the Question being put, "Whether to stay
the Proceedings at Law, till this House be
more fully informed of the Business?"
It was Resolved in the Affirmative.
Adjourn.
House adjourned till 10a cras.