House of Lords Journal Volume 5
21 April 1642

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'House of Lords Journal Volume 5: 21 April 1642', Journal of the House of Lords: volume 5: 1642-1643 (1767-1830), pp. 7-9. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=34778 Date accessed: 25 October 2014.


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DIE Jovis, 21 Aprilis.
Roseby's Building near the Parliament Record Room stopped. John Allen's Petition. Earl of Peterborough versus Ld. Mounson. Heads for the Conference about a Declaration against those who shall procure Petitions against the Militia. Message to the H. C. for a Conference about it. Col. Morgan to raise Forty Men for Holland. Judgement to be given against the Attorney General To-morrow. Lords Lieutenants to take their Commissions for the Militia. Message from the H. C. for a Conference on the Bill for settling the Militia. Answer. Answer from the H. C. about a Conference. Wingfield and Leigh. Capt. Brough to attend, about a scandalous Report against the Lord Lieutenant of Ireland. Conference about the Bill for settling the Militia reported. Lady Hastings versus Mr. Poulton. Lord Darcy versus Savill. The House called. Absent Lords, that are in Town, to pay to the Poor's Box. Wadsworth and Gouldsmith to attend, for searching Lady St. John's House. Message from the H. C. that they agree that a Declaration shall be drawn up against those who shall petition against the Militia. For the Arms taken out of Lincoln, for the Northern Expedition, to be restored; and for putting in Execution the Orders for removing the Magazine from Hull. Answer to the H.C. Committee for the Kentish Petition to examine Witnesses about the Practices against the Essex Militia. Message from the H. C. for a Conference, about the Impeachment against Sir Edward Deering. Answer. Adjourn. Footnotes

DIE Jovis, 21 Aprilis.

PRAYERS.

Roseby's Building near the Parliament Record Room stopped.

This House being this Day informed, "That there is a Building erecting, by one Henry Roseby and his Workmen, upon the King's Ground, near His Majesty's House, where the Records of Parliament are kept, contrary to express Orders of this House, which Building hath gone on in Contempt of the said Orders, and the Commands of the Lords in Parliament therein expressed:" It is therefore Ordered, by the Lords in Parliament, That the said Roseby, and all Workmen that shall presume to work upon the said House, shall be served with this Order, and they strictly commanded, as they at their Perils will answer the contrary, not to proceed in the said Building, until the Pleasure of this House be further signified.

John Allen's Petition.

Upon reading the Petition of John Allen; it is Ordered, That these Lords Committees following shall consider of the said Petition, and report their Opinions of the Business to this House:

Comes Berks.
Comes Dover.
Comes Peterborough.
Ds. Capell.

Their Lordships, or any Two, to meet To-morrow in the Afternoon, in the Painted Chamber.

Earl of Peterborough versus Ld. Mounson.

Upon Report made from the Committee concerning the Earl of Peterborough's Petition, touching the Lord Mounson, "That the Opinion of the Committee was, That, in regard the Lord Mounson is a Member of the House of Commons, it is fit to have a Conference with the House of Commons about it, and to desire them to take the same into their Consideration." Hereupon this House Ordered, That this Business shall be a Part of the next Conference.

Heads for the Conference about a Declaration against those who shall procure Petitions against the Militia.

The Earl of Holland reported from the Committee the Heads which they have drawn up to be delivered, at the next Conference with the House of Commons, concerning a Declaration to be set forth by both Houses against Counter Petitions against the Militia; which Heads were read, as followeth:

"To let the House of Commons know, that this Conference is desired concerning the Kentish Petition, upon the Informations this House hath received, that it is yet, by the malignant and ill-affected Party, with great though secret Industry carried on, and not only in that County, but some others of this Kingdom; and, as it may have an ill Consequence, and a dangerous Effect, in the Disturbance of what the Parliament hath settled for the present Safety of the Kingdom, that the Desire of this House is, that the Delinquents, and such as have been Actors in this Petition, may speedily be brought to their Trial; and that forthwith there may be a Declaration made unto the Kingdom, that whosoever shall be found to further or to countenance this Petition, or any other of the like Nature, shall be held to be Disturbers of the Peace and Quiet of this Kingdom, and justly liable to the Censure of Parliament; and those that shall discover and give Information of such Practices shall be accounted to do an acceptable Service to the King and Parliament."

Ordered, That this House approves of these Heads to be delivered at the next Conference with the House of Commons.

Message to the H. C. for a Conference about it.

A Message was sent to the House of Commons, by Sir Robert Rich and Mr. Page:

To desire a Conference, as soon as it may stand with their Conveniency, in the Painted Chamber, touching a Declaration to be made against Counter Petitions in Kente, and other Counties, against the Militia; and also touching a Matter of Privilege concerning a Member of their House.

Col. Morgan to raise Forty Men for Holland.

Ordered, That Colonel Morgan shall have Leave to entertain and transport into Holland Forty Men, Voluntiers, for recruiting of his Regiment in the Service of The States of the United Provinces.

Judgement to be given against the Attorney General To-morrow.

Ordered, That this House will give Judgement against Mr. Attorney General To-morrow Morning, upon the Impeachment brought up against (fn. *) him from the House of Commons, at which Time the Peers are to be in their Robes; and further it is Ordered, That the Warden of The Fleet shall bring Mr. Attorney before their Lordships To-morrow Morning.

Lords Lieutenants to take their Commissions for the Militia.

Ordered, That those Lords Lieutenants, that have not taken out their Commissions for the Militia, shall take them forth presently.

Message from the H. C. for a Conference on the Bill for settling the Militia.

A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Sir Beauchampe St. Johns:

To desire a Conference, by a Committee of both Houses, as soon as it may stand with their Lordships Conveniency, touching the Bill concerning the Militia.

The Answer returned was:

Answer.

That this House will give a present Conference, in the Painted Chamber, as is desired.

Answer from the H. C. about a Conference.

The Messengers sent to the House of Commons return with this Answer:

That they will give their Lordships a present Conference, in the Painted Chamber, as is desired.

Wingfield and Leigh.

Ordered, That Mr. Justice Heath do certify the Business referred unto him, concerning Mr. Wingfeild and Mr. Woolley Leigh, To-morrow Morning.

Capt. Brough to attend, about a scandalous Report against the Lord Lieutenant of Ireland.

The Lord Lieutenant of Ireland acquainted the House this Day, "That one Captain Brough hath spread abroad a scandalous and false Report, That there hath been Fifty Pounds (fn. †) given for a Captain's Place, to serve in the Wars of Ireland; and because his Lordship conceived this to intrench upon his Honour, and the Dignity of the Place he holds in Ireland under His Majesty, he desired that their Lordships would be pleased to examine this Business to the Bottom, that so his Lordship's Honour may be vindicated, and such Reparation may be given him as their Lordships shall think fit:" Hereupon this House Ordered, That Captain Brough shall be summoned, to appear before this House To-morrow Morning, and then this House will examine this Business.

Then this House was adjourned during Pleasure, and the Lords went to the Conference; which being ended, this House was resumed.

Conference about the Bill for settling the Militia reported.

Then the Lord Keeper reported the Effect of this Conference; which was, "That the House of Commons have considered of the Bill for the settling of the Militia, which came from their Lordships to them; wherein the House of Commons have thought fit to make some Amendments and Additions, and some Provisoes, which they offer to their Lordships Consideration."

The said Additions, Amendments, and Provisoes, were read Twice by themselves, and a Third Time as they are to go in the Body of the Bill; which Additions, Amendments, and Provisoes, were approved of; and it was Ordered, That the Bill should be ingrossed, with the same inserted.

Lady Hastings versus Mr. Poulton.

Ordered, That the Lady Hastings's Cause shall be heard on Tuesday next, in the Morning, at which Time the Parties, with Witnesses on both Sides, are to be present.

Lord Darcy versus Savill.

Ordered, That the Lord Darcie's Cause against John Savill shall be heard on Thursday next, in the Morning; at which Time the Parties, with their Witnesses on both Sides, are to attend this House.

The House called.

Next, this House was called; and these Lords following were absent:

Dominus Bruse, Leave, being sick.
Dominus Seymour.
Dominus Herbert de Cherbery, Leave, being sick, excused.
Dominus Powis, hath Leave to be absent, excused.
Dominus Dunsemore, hath Leave to be absent, excused.
Dominus Mohun, hath a Proxy.
Dominus Goringe, hath Leave to be absent, excused.
Dominus Coventrye.
Dominus Brudnell, Leave to be absent, excused.
Dominus Pierepont.
Dominus Pawlett, Leave to be absent, excused.
Dominus Faulconbridge, Leave to be absent, excused.
Dominus Craven, extra Regnum.
Dominus Deincourt, hath a Proxy.
Dominus Howard de Charlton.
Dominus Mountague, hath Leave to be absent, excused.
Dominus Kymbolton.
Dominus Digby.
Dominus Stanhope.
Dominus Chandois, hath Leave to be absent, excused.
Dominus Willoughby of Parham, Leave to be absent, excused.
Dominus Rich, is at Yorke.
Dominus Evers, hath Leave to be absent, excused.
Dominus Wentworth, is sick, excused.
Dominus Vaux, extra Regnum.
Dominus Dacres.
Dominus Willoughby de Earsby, Leave to be absent, excused.
Dominus Strange, Leave to be absent, excused.
Dominus Awdley, Leave to be absent, excused.
Vicecomes Campden, Leave to be absent, excused.
Vicecomes Conway, Leave to be absent, excused.
Vicecomes Purbecke, excused.
Vicecomes Mountague, Leave to be absent, excused.
Comes St. Albans, Leave to be absent, excused.
Comes Thanett, sick, excused.
Comes Newport, at Yorke.
Comes Carnarvan, hath a Proxy.
Comes Kingston, hath a Proxy.
Comes Newcastle, hath Leave to be absent.
Comes Rivers, hath Leave to be absent.
Comes Danby, hath a Proxy.
Comes Westmerland.
Comes Clare.
Comes Denbigh, Leave to be absent.
Comes Carlile.
Comes Cambridge, sick, excused.
Comes Bridgwater, hath a Proxy.
Comes Exon, hath a Proxy.
Comes Dorsett, hath Leave to be absent, excused.
Comes Suffolke.
Comes Nottingham, hath Leave, being sick.
Comes Bedford.
Comes South'ton, hath Leave to be absent, excused.
Comes Bathon.
Comes Huntingdon, hath Leave to be absent, excused.
Comes Sussex, hath a Proxy.
Comes Cumberland, hath Leave to be absent, excused.
Comes Rutland, hath Leave to be absent, excused.
Lord Great Chamberlain, hath Leave to be absent for Twenty Days.
Lord Marquis Hertford.
Lord Steward, Leave to be absent, excused.

Absent Lords, that are in Town, to pay to the Poor's Box.

Ordered, That those Lords that are now absent, from giving their Attendance on this House, and are in Town, shall pay to the Poor Twenty Shillings a-piece for their Absence this Day.

Wadsworth and Gouldsmith to attend, for searching Lady St. John's House.

Ordered, That Wadsworth and Gouldsmith shall attend this House on Monday Morning next, to shew by (fn. *) what Warrant they searched the House of the Lady St. Johns.

Message from the H. C. that they agree that a Declaration shall be drawn up against those who shall petition against the Militia.

A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Sir Thomas Barrington, Baronet:

To let their Lordships know, that the House of Commons do agree with their Lordships, that a Declaration be made by both Houses, according to the Conference this Day; for the expediting whereof they desire that a select Committee of both Houses may be appointed, to draw the same up accordingly.

† To which this House agreed, and Ordered the former Committee appointed for the Kentish Petition to meet with the same Committee of the House of Commons.

The Second Part of this Message was:

For the Arms taken out of Lincoln, for the Northern Expedition, to be restored;

To desire that the Five Hundred Arms, which were taken out of the County of Lyncolne, for the Expedition into the North, may be restored; for which they have the King's Promise, under His Signet.

Ordered, That this House will consider of this Particular, and send the House of Commons an Answer, by Messengers of their own.

The Third Part of the Message was:

and for putting in Execution the Orders for removing the Magazine from Hull.

To desire that the Orders agreed upon by both Houses, for the removing of the Magazines from Hull to London, may be put into Execution.

To which Desire this House agreed to, and appointed the Lord Admiral to put the same in Execution accordingly.

The Answer returned by the Messengers that brought the aforesaid Message from the House of Commons was:

Answer to the H.C.

That their Lordships have appointed the Committee for the Kentish Petition to meet with the Committee of the House of Commons, touching the drawing up and preparing a Declaration against Counter Petitions against the Militia; and touching the restoring of the Five Hundred Arms to the County of Lyncolne, this House will send an Answer by Messengers of their own; and concerning the putting of the Orders into Execution for the removing the Magazine at Hull to London, this House agrees with the House of Commons therein, and have appointed the Lord Admiral to put the same into Execution.

Committee for the Kentish Petition to examine Witnesses about the Practices against the Essex Militia.

Ordered, That the Committee for the Petition of Kente shall hereby have Power to examine Witnesses, according to such Information as shall be given to them, concerning any Practice against the Militia in the County of Essex.

Message from the H. C. for a Conference, about the Impeachment against Sir Edward Deering.

A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Sir Walter Earle, Knight:

To desire a Conference, by a Committee of both Houses, so soon as it may stand with their Lordships Conveniency, touching an Impeachment against Sir Edward Deereing, Baronet:

The Answer returned was:

Answer.

That this House will give a Conference To-morrow Morning, at Nine of the Clock, in the Painted Chamber, as is desired.

Adjourn.

Dominus Custos Magni Sigilli declaravit præsens Parliamentum continuandum esse usque in diem Veneris, videlicet, 22m diem instantis Aprilis, 1642, hora 9a Aurora, Dominis sic decernentibus.

Footnotes

* Deest in Originali.
Bis in Originali.
* Deest in Originali.