House of Lords Journal Volume 5
5 November 1642

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'House of Lords Journal Volume 5: 5 November 1642', Journal of the House of Lords: volume 5: 1642-1643 (1767-1830), pp. 433-434. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=34944 Date accessed: 21 October 2014.


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DIE Sabbati, videlicet, 5 die Novembris.

PRAYERS.

Lord Grey Speaker this Day, appointed by the House.

A Letter was read, directed to the Lord Grey of Warke, from Mr. Secretary Nicholas, dated from Reading, the 4th November, 1642, being an Answer concerning a Safe Conduct.

Letter from Secretary Nicholas, about a Safe Conduct for the Committee to attend the King with the Address from both Houses.

"My Lord,

"His Majesty hath commanded me, in Answer of your Lordship's of the Third present, to signify to you, That He always hath been, and is still ready, to receive the humble Petition of either or both Houses of Parliament; and shall take Order, that a Committee of Lords and Commons may pass and re-pass to Him, with the Petition of both Houses, as is desired; so as the said Committee consists of Persons that have not been by His Majesty, either by Name declared Traitors, or otherwise in some of His Declarations or Proclamations excepted against by Name, with His Intention declared to proceed against them as Traitors; and so as the said Committee come not with more than Thirty Persons in their Company, and give Notice before-hand of their coming; and, for the said Committee's better Security, His Majesty, upon the Receipt of their Names, will give a Safe Conduct for them, under His Hand and Signet. This being all I have in Command to deliver to your Lordship, I humbly rest,

"Your Lordship's

Redding, the 4th November, 1642.

"Most humble Servant,

"Edw. Nicholas.

"To the Right Honourable the Lord Gray of Warke, Speaker of the House of Peers pro Tempore."

The House Resolved, To communicate this Letter to the House of Commons, at a Conference; and to desire that the Consideration of this Letter may be referred to the Consideration of the Committee for the Safety, and report the same to the House.

Message to the H. C. for a Conference about it.

A Message was sent to the House of Commons, by Mr. Serjeant Whitfeild and Mr. Serjeant Glanvile:

To desire a present Conference, in the Painted Chamber, touching a Letter received from Mr. Secretary Nicholas, directed to the Speaker of the House of Peers.

The Messengers return with this Answer:

Answer.

That the House of Commons will give a present Conference, as is desired.

House adjourned during Pleasure, the Lords went to the Conference; which being ended, the House was resumed.

Adjourn.

House was adjourned until Five of the Clock this Afternoon.

Post meridiem.

PRAYERS.

Lord Grey, Speaker this Afternoon.

Letter to be wrote to Secretary Nicholas, with the Names of the Committees who are to attend the King with the Address.

The Lord Viscount Say & Seale reported, "That the Committee for the Safety have taken into Consideration the Letter that came from Mr. Secretary Nicholas; and they have thought it fit that the Names of the Committees of both Houses already nominated shall be sent to the King, for to have a Safe Conduct; and, if this House approves of the Opinion of the Committee, they desire that the Speaker of this House may be Ordered to write a Letter to the Secretary, and send the Names of the Committee, that so a Safe Conduct may be sent by His Majesty."

And this House taking the same into Consideration, it was Resolved, upon the Question, That this House approves of the Opinion of the Committee, in sending the Two Members of this House, with the Four Members of the House of Commons, to the King, with the Petition.

Mr. Marten Leave to travel.

Ordered, That Mr. George Marten shall have a Pass, quietly to go into France, with Three Horses and Two Servants.

Message from the H. C. with the Names of their Committee to attend the King.

A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Mr. Pym; who was commanded, by the House of Commons, to present to their Lordships Four Names, formerly designed to join with a Committee of Lords, to carry a Petition to the King; and they desire their Lordships to send the Names of the Committee of this House, with the Committee of the House of Commons, in a Letter to some Person near the King, to desire a Safe Conduct for the Members of both Houses; and that a Messenger may go with a Trumpet to the King, to require the same:

Mr. Pierpoint.
Lord Wainman.
Sir Jo. Evelyn.
Sir Jo. Hippisley.

Ordered, That this House agrees with the House of Commons, in sending Two Members of this House, with the Four Members of the House of Commons, to deliver the Petition to His Majesty; and Orders, That the Earl of Northumb. and the Earl of Pembrooke be the Committees of this House; and that the Speaker of this House do write a Letter to the Lord Viscount Falkland.

The Answer returned was:

Answer.

That this House agrees with the House of Commons, in all this Message; and have nominated the Earls of Northumberland and Pembrooke to go to the King, with the Petition from the Parliament.

Message from thence, to sit To-morrow.

A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Sir Tho. Barrington:

To let their Lordships know, that the House of Commons have Resolved, in regard of the great and important Occasions of the Kingdom, to fit To-morrow Morning, by Eight of the Clock, and desire their Lordships would please to sit likewise.

Agreed to.

Ordered, That this House agrees with the House of Commons, to sit To-morrow Morning, by Eight of the Clock.

The Answer returned was:

Answer.

That this House will sit To-morrow Morning, at Eight of the Clock.

The Speaker's Letter, for a Pass for the Committees who are to attend the King.

"My Lord,

"I have received a Command, from the Lords and Commons in Parliament, to send you the Names of Two Lords; that is to (fn. *) say, Algernoone Earl of Northumberland, Phillip Earl of Pembrooke & Mountgomery; and of Four Members of the House of Commons, videlicet, Mr. Pierpointe, the Lord Wainman, Sir John Evelyn of Wiltshire, and Sir John Hippisley, being the Committees of both Houses appointed to attend His Majesty with an humble Petition directed from them to His Majesty; desiring your Lordship will be pleased to move His Majesty to send a Safe Conduct to pass and re-pass, under His Royal Hand and Signet, for the several Persons aforementioned. This being all I have in Commission, I rest,

"Your Lordship's Friend and Servant,

"Grey de Warke."

Directed, "To the Right Honourable the Lord Viscount Falkland, Principal Secretary of State to His Majesty; or, in his Absence, to any of the Lords the Peers attending His Majesty."

Adjourn.

Adjourned till 8a hora cras.

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