House of Lords Journal Volume 5
25 February 1643

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'House of Lords Journal Volume 5: 25 February 1643', Journal of the House of Lords: volume 5: 1642-1643 (1767-1830), pp. 621-622. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=35035 Date accessed: 24 July 2014.


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DIE Sabbati, videlicet, 25 die Februarii.

PRAYERS.

Earl of Manchester, Speaker this Day.

Mr. Maxwell's Servant, a Pass.

Ordered, That Mr. Maxwell's Servant shall have a Pass, to go to Oxford, and back again.

Sterling, a Pass.

Ordered That Mr. George Sterling, and his Servant, shall have a Pass, to go quietly into Scotland.

Reasons of the Earl of Bath's Commitment.

The Earl of Holland acquainted the House, "That he hath communicated the Earl of Bath's Letter to the Committee of the Safety, and desired to know the Grounds upon which he was committed; and it appeared, that he was committed upon Suspicion of being active in putting the Commission of Array into Execution; and the Committee of the House of Commons having reported the same to their House, they have taken a Course to receive Information from the Country, of the Certainty of the Fact, and the Grounds thereof."

Message to the H. C. for a Conference about him.

Hereupon this House sent a Message to the House of Commons, by Sir Rob't Rich and Mr. Page:

To desire a Conference, touching the Earl of Bath.

Committee of both Houses to treat with the King at Oxford, about the Propositions.

Ordered, That this House thinks it fittest, and most Parliamentary, to send Committees of both Houses of Parliament, to treat with the King at Oxford, about the Treaty upon the Propositions, and not to send Committees to treat with Commissioners in any other Place; and that it be expressed in the Articles to be sent to the King, concerning the Cessation of Arms; and that the House of Commons be made acquainted therewith, at a Conference.

Message to the H. C. for a Conference about it.

A Message was sent to the House of Commons, by Serjeant Whitfeild and Serjeant Glanvile:

To desire a Conference, touching the Manner of the Treaty with the King upon the Propositions, at Three of the Clock this Afternoon, in the Painted Chamber.

Mrs. Lesley, a Pass.

Ordered, That Mrs. Leysley shall have a Pass, to go to Scotland, with a Coach and Four Horses, and Two or Three Servants, and Three Saddle Horses.

Answer from the H. C.

The Messengers returned with this Answer from the House of Commons, concerning the Earl of Bath:

That they will send an Answer, by Messengers of their own.

Adjourn.

House adjourned till 3a post meridiem.

Post meridiem.

PRAYERS.

Earl of Manchester, Speaker.

The Messengers sent in the Morning to the House of Commons, return with this Answer:

That the House of Commons will give a Conference, as is desired.

Message from the H. C. for the Lords Concurrence in the Ordinance for putting off the Assizes.

A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Sir Walter Earle, Knight:

To desire, in regard of the great Inconveniency that will arise by keeping of the Assizes, (fn. *) their Lordships Concurrence in the Ordinance formerly brought up from the House of Commons, touching the putting off the Assizes.

The said Ordinance was read.

Conference to be had about it.

Ordered, To have a Committee of both Houses, to meet presently, to consider how the Assizes may fitly be put off, and how the Oath of the Judges may be considered of.

Committee for the Conference.

These Lords were appointed to be Committees, to meet with a proportionable Number of the House of Commons:

Comes Holland.
Comes Pembrooke.
Comes Sarum.
Comes Rutland.
L. Viscount Say & Seale.
Ds. Howard.

Message to the H. C. to appoint a Committee for it.

A Message was sent to the House of Commons, by Sir Rob't Rich and Mr. Page:

To let them know, that this House hath appointed Six Lords to join with a proportionable Number of the House of Commons, to consider of the Ordinance for putting off the next General Assizes; and to desire them to appoint a Committee of their House, to join with the Six Lords, to meet presently, in the Painted Chamber.

Message from thence, for a Conference about the Propositions;

A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Sir Tho. Barrington, Baronet.

1. To desire a present Conference, if it may stand with their Lordships Conveniency, touching the Propositions concerning the Cessation of Arms.

and for Concurrence in Two Orders.

2. To desire their Lordships Concurrence in Two Orders:

1. An Order to pay Twelve Hundred and Eighteen Pounds, Fourteen Shillings, to the Scotts Reformadoe Officers. (Here enter it.)

Agreed to.

2. An Order to pay Sir John Clatworthy Three Hundred Pounds, upon Accompt, for the Service of The Lough, in Ireland. (Here enter it.)

Agreed to.

The Answer returned was:

Answer.

That this House will give a present Conference, as is desired, in the Painted Chamber; and that their Lordships do agree in the Two Orders now brought up.

The Messengers return with this Answer from the House of Commons:

Answer from the H. C. about the Conference on the Ordinance for putting off the Assizes.

That the House of Commons have appointed a Committee of a proportionable Number, to meet with the Six Lords, concerning the Order for putting off the Assizes; and they will meet presently, in the Painted Chamber.

House adjourned during Pleasure.

House resumed.

The Speaker reported the Conference.

Report of the Conference.

"That the House of Commons do agree in the Articles concerning the Cessation of Arms, with the Addition of these Words: videlicet,

["And that this Cessation shall not extend to restrain the setting forth or employing of any Ships for the Defence of His Majesty's Dominions,"] and with some other few Alterations.

Agreed to.

"2. To desire that, whereas Seven Lords and a proportionable Number of the House of Commons are appointed, to consider of the Cessation of Arms, that they may have Power to take into Consideration the Answer concerning the Treaty, which is to be sent unto His Majesty, that the Houses have agreed to have a Treaty with Him, and to meet presently."

Agreed to.

The Answer returned was:

Answer to the H. C. about it.

That this House agrees with the House of Commons in the Alterations in the Articles for the Cessation; and that their Lordships have given their Committee that Power, as they desire, and will meet presently.

Message from thence, that they agree to send Committees to treat with the King.

A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Sir Gilb't Gherrard, Baronet:

To let their Lordships know, that the House of Commons do agree to send Committees, (fn. *) to treat with the King, as was propounded at the Conference.

The House was adjourned during Pleasure, and the Lords Committees went to meet the Committee of the House of Commons; which being ended, the House was resumed.

Report of the Propositions for a Cessation of Arms.

The Committee reported what the Committee had agreed upon to send to the King, concerning the Cessation of Arms, with a Preamble prefixed, and a Conclusion to it:

Which was read.

Ordered, That this Business shall be taken into further Consideration on Monday Morning.

Order for 1218l. 14s. to be paid to the Scots Reformadoe Officers.

"It is this Day Ordered, by the Lords and Commons in Parliament assembled, That the Treasurers for Subscriptions in London do forthwith pay unto the Treasurer at Wars, the Sum of Twelve Hundred Eighteen Pounds, and Fourteen Shillings, to be by him forthwith paid unto the Scotts Reformadoe Officers, in Satisfaction of the Arrears due unto them, to the End they may with all Speed be sent away to the several Employments they are designed unto."

Order for 300l. to Sir John Clatworthy.

"It is this Day Ordered, by the Lords and Commons in Parliament, That Three Hundred Pounds, out of the Contribution-monies for Ireland, be paid unto the Treasurer at Wars for Ireland, or his Deputies, to be by him or them impressed, upon Accompt, to Sir John Clotworthy, for the Service of The Lough, in Ireland; and the Receivers for the Contribution-monies are to take Notice hereof, and make Payment accordingly."

Adjourn.

House adjourned till 10a Lunæ.

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