House of Lords Journal Volume 5
16 March 1643

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'House of Lords Journal Volume 5: 16 March 1643', Journal of the House of Lords: volume 5: 1642-1643 (1767-1830), pp. 650-651. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=35051 Date accessed: 20 August 2014.


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DIE Jovis, 16 die Martii.

PRAYERS.

Earl of Manchester was appointed to be Speaker this Day.

Cradocke, a Pass.

Ordered, That Montjoy Cradocke shall have a Pass, to carry down the Order to the Earl of Newport.

De Bauldu, a Pass.

Ordered, Signior De Bauldu shall have a Pass to go to Cambridge, and to return back again to London.

Hudson's Petition.

Upon reading the Petition of Edward Hudson, Clerk; it is Ordered, That

The Earls of Pembrooke,
Bollingbrooke,
Manchester,
Rutland, and

The Lord Howard of Estc.

Are appointed to consider of the said Petition, and to call both Parties before them, and to advise what is fit to be done for the Relief of the Petitioner, and report the same to the House.

Message from the H. C. for a Conference about the Seventh Article for a Cessation of Arms.

A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Sir Wm. Litton Knight:

To desire a Free Conference, by a Committee of both Houses, so soon as may stand with their Lordships Conveniency, touching the late Conference concerning the Seventh Article, concerning the Cessation of Arms.

Freke, a Pass.

Ordered, That Mr. Ralfe Freke shall have a Pass, for himself, his Wife, a Maid, and Two Men Servants, to return into Wilts.

The Answer returned was:

Answer to the H. C.

That this House will give a present Free Conference, in the Painted Chamber, as is desired.

Holland and Skynner, a Pass.

Ordered, That John Holland and Tho. Skynner shall have a Pass, to go to Oxford and back again safely, about Business of the Merchants Adventurers.

Answer from the L. General, about the Third Article for a Cessation.

The Speaker acquainted the House, "That he hath received a Letter from the Lord General, (fn. *) touching the Third Article, concerning the Cessation of Arms."

"My Lord,

"I do not remember that I have altered any Thing at the Second Coming down of the Committee in the Third Article, concerning the Removing of Quarters, of the Advice which I formerly have given at the First Coming of the Committee: I continue still in my First Advice, without any the least Alteration."

Hereupon this House, taking the Third Article concerning the Cessation into Consideration, touching the Removing and Placing of Quarters, their Lordships were of Opinion, "That there is very little or no Difference between the Third Article offered to the King from the Parliament, and the Article sent from the King to the Parliament, if the last Clause in the King's Article be left."

Message to the H. C. about it.

A Message was sent to the House of Commons, by Sir Rob't Rich and Mr. Page:

To deliver the Lord General's Letter to them; and to desire that Part of the next Conference may be concerning the Third Article touching the Cessation of Arms; and that, at the same Time, their Lordships may deliver (fn. †) their Opinion therein.

Savil, E. of Rutland's Servant, a Protections.

Ordered, That Wm. Savil, Servant to the Earl of Rutland, in Derbyshire, shall have a Protection for his House and Goods, to prevent them from Plundering.

The Messengers return with this Answer:

Answer from the H. C.

That they have delivered the Letter of the Lord General; and the House of Commons will be ready, at this Conference, to receive their Lordships Opinion touching the Third Article, concerning the Removing and Placing of Quarters.

The House was adjourned during Pleasure, and the Lords went to the Conference; which being ended, the House was resumed.

Conference about the Seventh Article for the Cessation reported.

Then the Speaker reported the Conference; which was "That the House of Commons have considered of the Seventh Article, touching the Cessation of Arms; and the House of Commons cannot agree with their Lordships in the Alteration offered by their Lordships, and offered Reasons for the same; but, to come as near their Lordships Sense as may be, they have left out some Words in their own Alteration, which (fn. *) they hope will (fn. †) be satisfactory."

The Lords considered of the said Amendments of the House of Commons, which run thus:

"That, so soon as His Majesty shall be pleased to disband the Armies, which both Houses earnestly desire may be speedily, and to disarm the Papists according to Law, the Subjects may then enjoy the Benefit of Peace, in the Liberties of their Persons, Goods, and Freedom of Trade; in the mean Time, the Generals and Commanders of the Armies on both Sides shall be enjoined to keep the Soldiers from Plundering, which the Two Houses of Parliament have ever disliked and forbidden."

Ordered, That this House agrees with the House of Commons in this Answer to the Seventh Article of the King's, as it is now read.

Message to the H. C. that the Lords agree to the Seventh, and desire them to expedite the Third.

A Message was sent to the House of Commons, by Mr. Serjeant Whitfeild and Mr. Serjeant Glanvile:

To let them know, that this House agrees with the House of Commons in the Answer to the Seventh Article of the King's, touching the Cessation of Arms, as it was brought up at the last Conference, with the Alteration; and to desire that the House of Commons would hasten their Resolution concerning the Third Article, touching the Removing and Placing of Quarters.

The Answer returned was:

Answer.

That the House of Commons will send an Answer, by Messengers of their own.

Walker, for writing and publishing seandalous Pamphlets.

Next, Henry Walker, a Maker and Publisher of scandalous and seditious Books and Pamphlets, was brought to the Bar:

1. Intituled, A Declaration of both Houses of Parliament, to the King's Most Excellent Majesty.

Proved by Two Witnesses.

2. A Book, intituled, The Remonstrance of the Commons of England to the House of Commons assembled in Parliament, preferred to them by the Hands of the Speaker.

He confessed the making of this Book.

And, because this House was informed, "That this Henry Walker was formerly indicted by the King's Counsel, at the Sessions in London, for making a seditious Book, and for the same was fined, and to be imprisoned during the King's Pleasure:" The said Walker being now at Liberty, it is Ordered, That Serjeant Whitfeild and Serjeant Glanvile shall have (fn. †) Power to call before them such Persons, as Gaolers and others, as they shall think fit, to enquire how the said Walker comes to be released of the said Imprisonment, and whether his Fine to the King hath been paid, and report the same to this House To-morrow Morning.

Committed, and to receive Sentence To-morrow.

Ordered, That this House will proceed to give Sentence against the said Henry Walker To-morrow Morning; in the mean Time, the said Walker is to be committed to The Fleete, and to be brought hither Tomorrow, and the Witnesses likewise to be (fn. *) here.

Message from the H. C. that they agree to the Third Article for the Cessation.

A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Sir John Holland:

To let their Lordships know, that the House of Commons have agreed with their Lordships in the Third Article; and to desire that the Committees for the Business may meet, and draw the Articles up into a Form which is fit to be presented to His Majesty.

The Answer returned was:

Answer.

That the House hath appointed their Committee to meet with the Committee of the House of Commons this Afternoon, at Three of the Clock.

To sit P. M.

Ordered, That this House shall sit this Afternoon, at Five of the Clock.

Message to the H. C. to acquaint them with it.

A Message was sent to the House of Commons, by Sir Rob't Rich and Mr. Page:

To let them know, that this House intends to sit this Afternoon, at Five of the Clock.

Adjourn.

House adjourned till 5a post meridiem.

Post meridiem.

PRAYERS.

Earl of Manchester, Speaker.

Report from the Committee of the Articles for the Cessation.

The Earl of Northumberland reported, "That the Committees have met, and drawn up the Articles for the Cessation into Form, with a short Introduction and Conclusion;" which being read, this House approved thereof, and Ordered, To send it down to the House of Commons, to desire their Concurrence therein.

Sent to the H. C.

A Message was sent to the House of Commons, by Serjeant Whitfeild and Serjeant Glanvile:

To communicate unto them the Articles concerning the Cessation of Arms, as they are now brought from the Committee.

Andrews, a Pass.

Ordered, That Mr. Daniell Andrewes, of London, shall have a Pass, to go into Buckinghamshire, and return again, with Two Horses, which he is to bring up with him, for the Service of the City of London.

Adjourn.

House adjourned, till 10a cras.

Footnotes

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