House of Lords Journal Volume 4
1 July 1641

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'House of Lords Journal Volume 4: 1 July 1641', Journal of the House of Lords: volume 4: 1629-42 (1767-1830), pp. 296-297. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=35637 Date accessed: 28 July 2014.


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DIE Jovis, videlicet, 1 die Julii.

PRAYERS.

Abolishing the Star-chamber.

The Lord Bishop of Lincolne reported the Free Conference Yesterday, concerning the Amendments of the Bill concerning the Star-chamber, etc. and the Additions and Alterations were read.

High Commission-court.

Next was read the Alterations and Amendments concerning the Bill touching the High Commission Court.

The First Clause in the Proviso thereunto is not admitted; but it was Resolved that the last Clause therein shall stand.

No Lord to speak against the Sense of the House at a Conference.

When a Preparation and Ground is made and Resolved of here in this House, for a Conference with the House of Commons, and the major Sense of the House agrees upon that which shall be delivered there, no Lord is to speak contrary to what was the general Sense of this House.

Abolishing the Star-chamber.

Amendment to it to be proposed at a Conference.

Then the House was adjourned into a Committee during Pleasure, to debate the Amendments in the Bill concerning (fn. *) the Star-chamber, etc. And the House being resumed, a Conference with the House of Commons was resolved on, that the Word ["Liberties"] may be left out in the said Bill; and propound unto them that there may be (fn. *) a Bill drawn for the Preservation of the Liberties of the Subject in his Person, from Commitments by the Lords of the Council, Judges, and other Inferior Officers, without Cause shewed.

A Message was sent to the House of Commons, by Serjeant Ayliffe and Serjeant Whitfeild:

Message to the H. C. about this.

To desire a Free Conference, by a Committee of both Houses, presently, if it may stand with their Conveniency, touching the Bill concerning the Star-chamber, and regulating of the Privy Council.

A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Mr. Bellasis:

Message from the H. C. to sit P. M.

To let their Lordships know, that they intend to sit this Afternoon, and to desire their Lordships to sit likewise.

Answer.

Answer: That their Lordships have resolved to sit at Four a Clock this Afternoon.

Sir James Thynne's Bill.

Ordered, That the Committee for Sir James Thynne's Bill do meet on Saturday next; in the Afternoon.

Sutton Marsh

Ordered, That the Cause concerning Sutton shall be further heard on Monday next.

Lordsto report the Conference.

The Earl of Bath,
Earl of Essex,
Earl Bristoll, &
Lord Viscount Say,

Were appointed to speak, and report the Conference.

The Answer returned from the House of Commons is:

Answer from the H. C.

That they will give a Meeting presently, as is desired, in the Painted Chamber.

The House was adjourned during Pleasure, and the Lords went to the Conference; which being ended, the House was resumed.

Conference reported.

And the Earl of Bath reported, "That they had delivered at the Conference what they were commanded by the House."

Adjourn.

Dominus Capitalis Justiciarius de Communi Banco, Locum tenens Domini Custodis Magni Sigilli, declaravit præsens Parliamentum continuandum esse usque in post meridiem hujus instantis diei, hora 9a, Dominis sic decernentibus.

Post meridiem.

PRAYERS.

Sir James Thynne's Petition.

Ordered, That Sir James Thynne's Petition shall be heard on Tuesday next, in the Afternoon, before the Lords Committees for Petitions.

Lady Griffin's Bill.

Hodie 2a vice lecta est Billa, An Act concerning the Lady Griffin.

Committed to these Lords following: videlicet,

L. Privy Seal.
Comes Bathon.
Comes South'ton.
Comes Dover.
Epus. Durham.
Epus. Lincolne.
Justice Reeves,
Justice Foster,
Epus. Co. et Litchfeild.
Epus. Exon.
Ds. Willoughby de Earseby.
Ds. Pagett.
Ds. Hunsden.
Ds. Roberts.
Assistants.

Their Lordships, or any Three or more, are to meet. This Committee is to be sine die until all Parties, whom it concerns, have Notice of it.

Bill for regulating the Clergy, &c.

Hodie 1a vice lecta est Billa, An Act for regulating of Archbishops, Bishops, Deans, and Chapters, etc.

Ordered, That the Earls of Bedford, Dover, Bishops of Rochester and Landaph, Barons of Howard de Charleton and Mohun, be added to Mr. Smarte's Committee.

Order concerning Relief, and Respite of Homage of the Peers.

Ordered, That there be a Stay of all Process for Reliefs and Respite of Homage, against the Peers of this Realm, until the Cause be heard and determined in the Lords House of Parliament; and further, that the said Business is hereby referred to the Consideration of the Lords of the Committee for Privileges, who are to meet on Monday next, being the 12th of this Instant July, of which Time the King's Counsel are to have Notice, and shall be heard what they can say touching this Business; and lastly, that the Clerks of the Exchequer shall then attend, and inform their Lordships how and by what Means the Judgement in the Exchequer against the Nobility of this Kingdom, concerning Reliefs and Respite of Homage, was gained, whether upon a nihil dicit, or whether upon a Judgement.

Ld. Paget Leave to be absent.

Ordered, That the Lord Pagett hath Leave to be absent till Monday next.

Turkish Pirates.

Ordered, That the Committee for the Bill concerning Turkish Pirates are to meet on Wednesday next; and the Turky Merchants to have Notice hereof.

Against mixing Wines.

Ordered, That the Committee for the Bill to prevent the mixing and sophisticating of Wines, do meet To-morrow Fortnight; and the French Merchants are to attend.

Bill against Pluralities, &c.

Hodie 2a vice lecta est Billa, An Act against Pluralities. Ordered to be committed to a Committee of the whole House, and to be considered this Day Sevennight.

Ordered, That the Committee concerning the restoring of Ship-money shall meet on Saturday Morning next, at Eight a Clock.

Inhabitants of Lincolnshire against Sir Walter Norton.

Ordered, for the better expediting of the Cause depending in this House, by the Complaint of many of the Inhabitants of the County of Lincolneshire, against Sir Walter Norton, Knight, late High Sheriff of the said County, That the Depositions taken in Court, or out of the Court of Star-chamber, and all Exhibits brought into that Court against the said Sir Walter Norton, upon an Information of the King's Attorney General against him, and not yet published, shall be delivered to the Lords Committees of this House by the Clerk of the Counsel for that Court, by them to be considered of, to be made Use of in this House at the Hearing of the Cause.

A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Sir John Hotham:

Message from the H. C. for a Conference on the Star-chamber Bill.

To desire their Lordships will give them a present Conference, by a Committee of both Houses, touching the Bill concerning the Star-chamber, and the regulating of (fn. *) the Council Table.

Answer:

Answer.

That their Lordships will give a present Meeting, in the Painted Chamber, as is desired.

The Earl of Bristoll,
Lord Viscount Say, and
Lord Bishop of Lincolne,

Were appointed to be Reporters of the Conference.

The House was adjourned during Pleasure, and the Lords went to the Conference. The Lords returned, and the House was resumed.

And it was Ordered, That the Report of this Conference shall be made To-morrow Morning, at Nine a Clock.

Adjourn.

Dominus Capitalis Justiciarius de Communi Banco, Locum tenens Domini Custodis Magni Sigilli, declaravit præsens Parliamentum continuandum esse usque in diem Veneris, videlicet, 2m diem instantis Julii, 1641, hora nona, Dominis sic decernentibus.

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