House of Lords Journal Volume 4: 3 July 1641

Journal of the House of Lords: Volume 4, 1629-42. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1767-1830.

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'House of Lords Journal Volume 4: 3 July 1641', in Journal of the House of Lords: Volume 4, 1629-42, (London, 1767-1830) pp. 298-299. British History Online https://www.british-history.ac.uk/lords-jrnl/vol4/pp298-299 [accessed 19 March 2024]

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DIE Sabbati, 3 die Julii.

PRAYERS.

Brett versus Eldred and Paske.

Upon Report made unto the House from the Lords Committees for Petitions, it is Ordered, That the Trial at Law, between Alexander Brett, Esquire, against Walter Eldred and Martha Paske, shall be proceeded in; but the Judgement shall be stayed until the Protection Royal be considered of by the Lords in the Upper House of Parliament; which is, by virtue of this Order, to be brought into this House, either by themselves, the Attorney or Agent in that Cause, that thereby their Lordships, considering of the said Protection, may proceed therein according to that which shall be just and right.

Message from the H. C. with Three Bills passed.

A Message came from the House of Commons, by Mr. Capell; who said, the House of Commons had commanded him to deliver to their Lordships Three Bills, which hath passed both Houses: videlicet,

Act for Poll-money.

1. An Act for the speedy Provision of Money, for disbanding the Armies, and settling the Peace of the Two Kingdoms of England and Scotland.

An Act for abolishing the Star-chamber.

2. An Act for regulating of the Privy Council, and for taking away the Court commonly called the Star-chamber.

An Act for the High Commission.

3. An Act for Repeal of a Branch of a Statute, 1° Eliz. concerning Commissioners for Causes Ecclesiastical.

The King to be moved for the Royal Assent to these Bills.

And the House of Commons desired, That the King might be moved presently, from both Houses, to give His Royal Assent to these Three Bills aforesaid.

Committee to attend the King for this Purpose.

Then the House appointed these Lords following, to attend His Majesty, to know His Pleasure herein: videlicet,

The L. Privy Seal.
L. Great Chamberlain.
L. Marquis of Hertford.
L. Steward.
L. Admiral.
L. Chamberlain.
E. of Bath.
E. of Essex.
E. of March.
E. of Bristoll.

The Answer which was returned to the House of Commons was: That their Lordships have appointed some Lords to wait on the King, to know what Time His Majesty will appoint, for giving His Royal Assent to the Three Bills now brought up from the House of Commons.

Act for regulating the Clergy and their Courts.

Hodie 2a vice lecta est Billa, An Act for the better regulating of Archbishops, Bishops, Deans, Deans and Chapters, Canons, and Prebends, and the better ordering of their Revenues; and for the better governing of the Courts Ecclesiastical, and the Ministers thereof, and the Proceedings therein.

Ordered, That this Bill be committed to a Committee of the whole House, to be debated on Monday come Sevennight; and then the Bill against Pluralities to be considered of at the same Time.

Poll-money Bill to be passed P. M. and the King will consider of the other Two.

The Lords which attended the King return with this Answer: "That His Majesty will come and give the Royal Assent to the Bill concerning Poll-money this Morning, in regard it concerns the disbanding of the Armies and the present Ease of the Kingdom; as for the other Two Bills, in regard His Majesty hath not been made acquainted with the Particulars before now, He will consider of them, and give an Answer on Tuesday Morning next."

Message to the H. C. to acquaint them with this.

Then this Answer from His Majesty was communicated to the House of Commons, by a Message send by Mr. Attorney General and Serjeant Fynch.

Jurisdiction of the Admiralty.

Ordered, That the Cause concerning the Jurisdiction of the Court of Admiralty is to rest until the Lord Admiral desires a further Day.

State of the Navy referred to a Committee.

The Lord Admiral delivered into this House a List of the State of His Majesty's Navy; which was read, and Ordered to be referred to the select Committee appointed to consider of the Ten Heads sent from the House of Commons.

Articles of the Queen's Marriage to be brought hither.

Ordered, That the original Articles of the Marriage of His Majesty with the Queen, or a true Copy thereof be brought into this House on Monday Morning next: and the Clerk of the Parliament is to attend Mr. Secretary Vane for the same.

Order concerning a Riot, in Lady Thomas's Lands in Lincolnshire.

Rioters sent for.

Upon reading the Petition of the Lady Thomas, complaining of the Disobedience to a former Order of this House, made for the quiet enjoying her Possession, in some Fen Grounds in Lincolneshire; and an Affidavit being read, declaring many uncivil and contemptuous Speeches have been spoken concerning the Orders of this House; it is Ordered, That Three or Four of the principal Actors in this Business shall be sent for, by the Gentleman Usher attending this House, to appear, and there answer the Complaints as are alledged against them; and if, in Case Proof be not made against them, that they are guilty of the said Misdemeanours of which they stand charged and fetched up for as Delinquents, that then the Complainants shall bear their Charges, which they shall expend in this Business; and this is to (fn. 1) be observed as a general Order for all Causes of this Nature.

Committee for the Northern Expedition.

Ordered, That, on Wednesday next, in the Afternoon, the Committee for the Northern Expedition do meet, to hear the Lord Viscount Conwaye make a further Relation, touching the Northern Expedition, of so much as concerns his Lordship.

Message from the H. C. for the King to be moved to pass the Three Bills together.

A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Mr. Arthur Goodwin; who told their Lordships, "That the House of Commons had taken into Consideration the Message sent to them from their Lordships this Day, touching His Majesty's Answer, that He will only give His Royal Assent this Day to the Bill for Poll-money: They conceive that the passing of the Bill for the taking away the Star-chamber, &c. and the Bill for taking away the High Commission Court, do very much concern the speedy Payment of the Poll-money; therefore they desire that His Majesty might be moved again, to give His Royal Assent to all Three Bills together, with convenient Speed; and further he was commanded to let their Lordships know, That their House intends to sit this Afternoon, and they desire their Lordships to sit likewise this Afternoon."

Order thereupon.

Ordered, That the same Lords that moved His Majesty this Morning do wait on the King presently, to move Him for giving His Royal Assent to all the Three Bills together.

The Answer returned to the Messengers was:

Answer to the H. C.

That their Lordships have appointed (fn. 1) some Lords to move His Majesty, as they desire; and that this House will sit this Afternoon, at Three a Clock.

Adjourn.

Dominus Capitalis Justiciarius de Communi Banco, Locum tenens Domini Custodis Magni Sigilli, declaravit præsens Parliamentum continuandum esse usque in post meridiem hujus instantis diei, hora 3a, Dominis sic decernentibus.

Post meridiem.

PRAYERS.

The King's Answer concerning passing the Three Bills.

It was reported by the Lords that were appointed to wait on His Majesty this Morning, to desire Him from both Houses to give His Royal Assent to the Three Bills at one Time, "That His Answer was, That He will be here this Afternoon, and return His own Answer."

Then a Message was sent to the House of Commons, by Mr. Attorney General and Serjeant Fynch:

Message to the H. C. to acquaint them with it.

To let the House of Commons know His Majesty's Answer as aforesaid.

King present.

His Majesty, according to His Promise, came to this House; and, being set in his Chair of State, the Peers sitting in their Robes uncovered, the Commons were sent for, who came with their Speaker; and, after a short Speech was made to His Majesty by the Speaker, he presented from the Commons a Bill, intituled, "An Act for the speedy Provision of Money, for disbanding the Armies and settling the Peace of the Two Kingdoms of England and Scotland." Then the Clerk of the Crown read the Title, and the Clerk of the Parliament, by His Majesty's Command, pronounced the Royal Assent, in these Words: videlicet,

Poll Bill passed.

"Le Roy, remerciant Ses bons Subjects, accepte leur Benevolence, & ainsi le veult."

The King will consider of the other Two.

For the other Two Bills, His Majesty said, in regard He (fn. 2) had not considered of them, being Bills of great Consequence, He would inform Himself concerning the Particulars, and return an Answer within few Days.

This being done, (fn. 3) His Majesty departed; and the Commons and their Speaker went to their House.

Then

Adjourn.

Dominus Capitalis Justiciarius de Communi Banco, Locum tenens Domini Custodis Magni Sigilli, declaravit præsens Parliamentum continuandum esse usque in diem Lunæ, videlicet, 5m diem instantis Julii, hora 9a Aurora, Dominis sic decernentibus.

Footnotes

  • 1. Deest in Originali.
  • 2. Deest in Originali.
  • 3. Origin. He.