DIE Sabbati, videlicet, 6 die Novembris.
An Ordinance of Parliament, to give Power to the
Lord Lieutenant of Ireland to give Commissions, etc. to
raise Men for Ireland, was read, and approved of by
both Houses of Parliament. The Contents whereof
Ordinance to authorize the Lord Lieutenant to levy Men for Ireland.
"The Lords and Commons in Parliament, being very
sensible of the great Danger and Combustion in Ireland, by reason of the Multitudes of Rebels now in
Arms, for the Destruction of His Majesty's loyal
Subjects there, and the Withdrawing that Kingdom
from the Allegiance of His Majesty and the Crown
of England: Forasmuch as, in this Time of His Majesty's Absence, His Royal Commission cannot be so
soon obtained as the Necessity of that Kingdom doth
require, and for more speedy opposing the wicked and
traiterous Attempts of Rebels there; and for that
His Majesty hath specially recommended the Care of
the Preservation of that Kingdom unto both the
Houses of Parliament; do hereby Ordain and Authorize Robert Earl of Leicester, Lord Lieutenant of Ireland, by Warrant under his Hand and Seal, to give
One or more Commission to such Captains, Commanders, or other Officers, as to his Lordship shall seem
expedient, for the levying of Three Thousand Five
Hundred Foot, and Six Hundred Horse, by the beating of the Drum, of such Persons as shall voluntarily
undertake the same Service by accepting of Prest
Money, which Persons are to be raised in such several
Parts of the Kingdom as shall be most convenient
for their Passage into these Parts of Ireland,
which his Lordship shall think most necessary to be
forthwith supplied: And for the furnishing of the
same Men, as also of other His Majesty's Subjects in
that Kingdom, we have Ordained, That the Earl of
Newport, Master of His Majesty's Ordnance, shall
deliver a Number of Arms, Munition, and Powder
answerable, unto the said Lord Lieutenant of Ireland;
to be disposed as he shall think fit for the best Defence of that Kingdom: And for the levying of the
said Number of Men, this Ordinance of Parliament
shall be his sufficient Warrant.
"Forasmuch as it is held most expedient and necessary, for the Safety of His Majesty's Kingdom of
Ireland, and His loyal Subjects there, that such Numbers of Soldiers, both Horse and Foot, as are forthwith to be raised for the Defence of that Kingdom,
should be supplied with Arms and other Munition,
which, by reason of His Majesty's Absence out of
the Kingdom, cannot be done by His Majesty's immediate Warrant so speedily as the imminent Danger
and Necessity of that Kingdom doth require; and
for that His Majesty hath especially recommended the
Care of the Preservation of that Kingdom unto both
the Houses of Parliament; it is Ordained by the
Lords and Commons in Parliament, That Montjoy
Earl of Newport, Master of His Majesty's Ordnance, shall deliver to the Earl of Leicester, Lord
Lieutenant of Ireland, or to such other Person or
Persons as he shall appoint to receive the same, the
full Number of One Thousand Arms for Horses, as
also the Number of Eight Thousand Arms for Foot,
and the Quantity of Ten Last of Powder, and such
other Munition, Tents, and Provisions of all Sorts,
as shall be needful for this Service, according to a
List to be agreed upon and allowed by the said Lords
and Commons, hereunto annexed, out of His Majesty's Stores and Magazines in The Tower of London,
the City of Carlile, the Town of Hull, or elsewhere:
And for his so doing this shall be a sufficient Warrant, as well for his Lordship as for any of his Deputies or Under Officers in that Behalf."
Order for providing Ships to transport Men and Money, etc. to Ireland.
"Whereas, by Order of Parliament, Men, Arms,
Munition, and other Provisions, are suddenly to be
transported from several Ports in this Realm, videlicet, Bristoll, Chester, and others, for which Service
it will be requisite that Ships be provided with all
Expedition; it is this Day Ordered, by the Lords
and Commons in Parliament, That the Lord High
Admiral of England be desired to take Care, that
Ships be accordingly provided, in the several Ports
respectively within this Kingdom, from whence the
aforesaid Men, Arms, Ammunition, and other Provisions, are ordered to be transported into Ireland,
which is to be done with all Expedition, the Parliament having resolved to see Monies supplied for the
Performance of this Service."
This Order, and the aforesaid Ordinances, were assented unto by this House.
Letters from Ireland.
Next was read a Letter, sent from Ireland to the
Lord Lieutenant, from Sir Jo. Temple, dated the 2d of
November 1641, declaring the State which Ireland is
now in, by Reason of the Rebellion there, desiring
Men, Arms, and Money, with all Speed.
Ordered, That the further Consideration of this
be referred to the Committees for the Irish Affairs.
A Message was brought from the House of Commons,
by Mr. William Stroude:
Message from the H. C. to desire that the Night Watch may be discharged.
To let their Lordships (fn. *) know, That they find some
Inconveniency by the Trained Bands, which do watch
a Nights about the Parliament Houses; and they think
it fit (if their Lordships so please) that they be discharged from their Night Watches.
Order for it.
Hereupon it is Ordered, That the Lord Chamberlain, Captain General of the South, do discharge
the Trained Bands from their Night Watchings.
Captain Trist versus Moore and Mackmiller, for Threats against the Lord General, etc.
Armond Moore and Richard Mackmiller were brought
to the Bar; and the Petition of James Trist, Captain
in His Majesty's late Guards in the North of a Hundred Cuirassiers, was read; shewing, "That, about
Eight Days before the disbanding His Majesty's
Army, one Armond Moore and Richard Mackmiller,
Two Troopers under his Command, hearing there
was Order come from the Lord General, that each
Trooper was to pay Six Pounds a-piece for their
Horse (in Consideration they were not Half the
Time of other Troopers in Service); upon which the
said Moore and Mackmiller, about Ten of the Clock
at Night, on a Sunday, coming from Yorke, repaired
unto the Petitioner's Lodging; and, in an uncivil and
rude Manner, demanded of him who should grant
such an Order, or Command, for the Payment of
such Six Pounds for their Horses. The Petitioner
replied, My Lord General. At which Answer the
said Moore and Mackmiller, in an unreverent Manner,
reviled and disgracefully gave forth that my Lord
General, Sir John Conyers, and the Petitioner,
would be Sharers of it. And the Petitioner, to give
them Satisfaction, replied, Neither of them were to
reap Benefit by it. Whereupon they further said,
Well, well, we know otherwise; but, ere long, we
shall be disbanded; and then our Swords shall cut as
well as my Lord General's, Sir John Conyers, or
yours, and we will then meet one another, and be
as good as my Lord General, or any of you.
"That, after the disbanding of the said Troops, the
Petitioner being returned to London, the said Moore
repaired unto your Petitioner's Lodging, and gave
him to understand that Mackmiller sent him a Challenge, to meet him in the Fields, to fight; and the
Petitioner, intending in a fair Way to have gone and
spoken with him, to know his Grievances, was advised by a Friend, as he was going, not to repair unto him; for, if he did, he would be in Danger of his Life; for he heard that Half a Dozen
or more of Irishmen had conspired, together with the
said Mackmiller, to mischief the Petitioner: And in
Three or Four Days after, the Petitioner riding along
the Street, the said Mackmiller offered to assault him
behind unawares with a Stick; which Blow coming,
the Petitioner's Horse espied, whereby he missed his
Opportunity (the Horse glancing aside); and thereupon divers other Soldiers and the said Mackmiller drew
their Swords against the Petitioner, to have mischieved
him, had he not warily, on his Guard, prevented them;
and the said Mackmiller did then give forth, that, if
he met my Lord General and Sir John Conyers, he
would offer or do the like to either of them; and willed
the Petitioner to go and make his Complaint, and acquaint him with as much; and threatened to kill the
Petitioner whensoever he should meet with him."
This Petition being justified upon Oath to be true
by the said James Trist, the said Moore and Mackmiller
were commanded to give their Answers herein; and
Mackmiller confessed he struck the said James Trist, and
sent him a Challenge by the said Moore; and Moore confessed he carried a Challenge to Trist from the said
Mackmiller; but they denied the rest of the Charge.
Moore and Mackmiller committed to Newgate.
Hereupon it is Ordered, That the said Moore and
Mackmiller, for the Offences which they have now confessed themselves to be guilty of, concerning this Business, shall be forthwith committed to Newgate, there
to remain until the further Pleasure of this House be
known; and that no Soldiers nor any of their Companions shall be permitted to come unto them, or speak
with them; and the rest of the Offences mentioned in
the Petition, which they have committed, this House
will take them into further Consideration hereafter.
Message from the H. C. for a Conference about the Safety of the Kingdom.
A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Mr. Hotham:
To desire a present Conference, by a Committee of
both Houses (if it may stand with the Conveniency of
this House), touching the Safety of this Kingdom.
The Answer returned was:
That their Lordships will give a present Meeting, as
is desired, in the Painted Chamber.
The Lord Keeper appointed to report the Conference.
Sir William Killigrew's Cause.
Ordered, That Sir William Killegrewe's Business
be heard on Monday Morning next.
The House was adjourned during Pleasure, and the
Lords went to the Conference; which being ended, the
House was resumed.
House to be called, and Conference reported, P. M.
Ordered, That this House be adjourned to Three
a Clock this Afternoon; and then this House to be
called, and the Report of this Conference to be made.
Dominus Custos Magni Sigilli declaravit præsens Parliamentum continuandum esse usque in post meridiem
hujus instantis diei, hora 3a, Dominis sic decernentibus.
Information of Irish Soldiers privately levied for the King of Spain.
Information was given this Day to this House, "That
Moore and Mackmiller, Two Irish Captains, have raised
and entertained divers Irish Soldiers for the Service
of the King of Spaine, who are kept privately in a
House at St. Katherin's, near The Tower, and are
paid Fourteen Pence a Day every Man."
Colonel Hunkes was called in, to give Information
hereof; who said, he had the Relation of this from
one who was his Corporal, who told (fn. *) it to him but Two
Hours since. Colonel Hunckes had Thanks given him
from this House for his (fn. †) timely Advertisement hereof,
and was willed to give the Corporal Notice to attend
this House about this Business.
Lords Leave to be absent.
The Lord Viscount Conway was excused for being
The Lord Capell had Leave to be absent for Two
Information of concealed Troops for the King of Spain.
Then the Corporal was brought in, and, upon his
Oath, averred the Information to be true which was
given to this House by Colonel Hunckes.
Warrant to search for them.
Hereupon it is Ordered, That Colonel Hunckes
shall have a Warrant from this House, to go and
search in St. Katherine for these Men, and shall bring
before the Lords so many as he shall think fit; and
that the rest be secured until the Pleasure of this House
be further known; and that all Justices of the Peace,
and other His Majesty's Officers, shall be assisting herein, if Occasion.
Landguard Fort in a weak Condition;
The Earl of Holland signified to this House, "That,
by His Majesty's Favour, he hath the Command of
a Fort near Harwich, called Langor Point, which is
of so great Consequence, that, if it should miscarry
and be surprized into the Hand of an Enemy, would
be a great Weakening to that Part of this Kingdom;
therefore his Lordship thought, for the Discharge of
his Duty, to let this House know, that it is very
much decayed, for Want of repairing; and, unless
some speedy Course be taken, will be utterly ruined."
and Plymouth Fort.
Likewise the Lord Admiral informed this House, of
the great Decay of Plimouth Fort, and other Places of
Strength in the Kingdom; and desired this House to
take them into Consideration.
Hereupon this House Resolved, To consider further
of these Things on Monday Morning next.
The House called.
After this, the House was called; and these Lords
were absent: videlicet,
The Lord Goringe.
Episcopus Rochester. Excused.
Comes Dorsett. Excused.
Lord Marquis of Hertford. Excused.
Then the Lord Keeper reported the Conference with
the House of Commons this Morning, to this Effect:
Report of the Conference about the Safety of this Kingdom. Propositions of the Commons.
"That the House of Commons have presented to
their Lordships some Propositions, which have been
voted by their House; and desire their Lordships to
take them into Consideration, and join with them
For dissolving the Capuchins.
"1. Concerning the dissolving of the House of the
Capuchins, and the speedy sending of them away,
according to the former Desires of this House.
Ambassadors to deliver up English Priests.
"2. That the Ambassadors may be sent to from
both Houses, to deliver up such Priests of the King's
Subjects as are in their Houses.
List to be brought in of the Queen's Priests and the Royal Family's Servants.
"3. That a List may be brought in of the Queen's
Priests, and other Her Servants; and that a List
may be likewise brought in of the Prince's and
other of the King's Childrens Servants.
To issue a Proclamation for Strangers, not Protestants, Names to be delivered in.
"4. That a Proclamation may be issued forth, commanding, That all Strangers that are not of the Protestant Religion (except such as are Men of Rank
and Quality, and live here in such a public Way
whereby sufficient Notice is taken of them, and of
the Cause of their Abode in this Kingdom) do deliver
in Tickets of their Names, and an Account of their
Stay here, within Two Days after the issuing forth
of the Proclamation, or else depart the Kingdom
forthwith; and likewise requiring that all Innkeepers,
or others that entertain Lodgers, do give in Tickets
of the Names of such as lodge in (fn. *) their Houses,
within Two Days likewise after the issuing of the said
Proclamation; and that these Tickets be given by
those in the City of London to the Lord Mayor and
Aldermen of the Wards respectively, where they reside; and by those of Middlesex and Surrey, and other
Places within Ten Miles, to the Justices of the Peace
next adjoining to the Place of their Residence; and
this Order to extend to the City of London and Ten
Papers concerning the Design against the Marquis of Hamilton, etc.
"That the House of Commons had presented their
Lordships with some Scottish Papers, being Examinations concerning the late Design against the Lord
Marquis Hamilton, Earl of Argyle, and the Earl of
Lannericke; likewise they produced [ (fn. †) a Letter] written
from their Committees at Edinborough, dated the 27th
of October, with an inclosed Paper, containing as follow
Paper exhibited by the English Committee about disbanding the Garrisons of Berwick and Carlile.
"The Paper of the 5th of October, exhibited by
the English Committee, October 7th, 1641.
"The Committees of the Parliament of England
have now sent down sufficient Monies for the total
disbanding of the Garrisons of Barwicke and Carlile,
and have Ordered that it shall be effected by the 10th
of this present Month; and have likewise taken a
Course for removing the Ammunition and Ordnance, and for slighting of the Works, according to
the Treaty; we desire, therefore, that that Part of
our Army, which is yet on Foot, may be forthwith
disbanded; and that what new Fortifications have
been made in Scotland, by Occasion of the late Troubles,
may be presently demolished, according to the same
Answer to it.
"The Answer to the Paper delivered in by the English
Committees to the Committee of the Army, exhibited
7 Octobris 1641.
"That the Regiments which are yet on Foot may
be speedily disbanded (according to the Order already
given), they are drawn near towards Edingburgh, to
the Effect they may with the greater Convenience be
mustered, and therefore Money may be given for
their Pay, and forthwith disbanded. And any new
Fortifications which have been made in Scotland, by
Occasion of the late Troubles, shall presently be demolished.
"That every Condition on our Part may to your
full Satisfaction be performed, according to the Treaty,
as we do no wise doubt to find mutual Performances;
and that the Garrisons of Barwicke and Carlile, according to the Orders of the Parliament, be totally
disbanded; which being shewn to the Parliament of
England, we hope, will give them Satisfaction.
22 October 1641.
"Produced by the Lord Chancellor, and read in Audience of His Majesty and the Parliament, who nominates the Lord Burgley, in Place of the Earl of
Argyle, to be upon the Committee for providing Money to pay the Regiments; and also Ordains an Order
to be given to the Lord General, for causing demolish
the Fortifications at Mordington; which was accordingly done.
Putting the Isle of Wight into other Hands. Securing Papists. That the E. of Essex may command the Trained Bands. citra Trent.
"6. Concerning the putting the Custody of the Isle of
Wight into another Hand, as formerly was desired.
"7. Concerning the securing the Persons of Papists
upon the former Propositions.
"8. That the Earl of Essex may have Power from
both Houses to command the Trained Bands on this
Side Trent, upon all Occasions, for the Defence of
the Kingdom; and that this Power may continue till
the Parliament shall take further Order."
This Report being (fn. *) made, the House caused the
Particulars to be distinctly read again, and gave these
Resolutions as followeth:
Answer to these Propositions of the H. C.
"Resolved, upon the Question, nemine contradicente,
"1. That the House or Convent of Capuchins here
in England shall be dissolved.
"Concerning the sending the Capuchins out of this
Kingdom, this House will suspend giving any Resolution therein, until a List of the Queen's Priests and
Servants is brought in.
"Resolved, upon the Question,
"2. That the Ambassadors be desired from the Parliament to dismiss out of their Houses such Priests as
are the King's native-born Subjects; and, in Case they
shall be hereafter found abroad, they shall not have
any Protection, but be proceeded in according to the
Laws of this Kingdom.
"Resolved, upon the Question,
"3. That the Lord Chamberlain to the Queen shall
bring in a List of the Queen's Priests and Servants;
and the Lord Chamberlain of His Majesty's Household shall bring in a List of the Names of the Servants belonging to the King, Prince, and the rest
of the King's Children.
"4. To the Fourth, it is Ordered, That this House
agrees to this Resolution; but do defer the Manner
of issuing out the Proclamation until the Commission
given to the Lords of the Council for issuing out Proclamations be perused.
"6. Concerning the sequestering of the Isle of Wight
into another Hand, this House thought fit to return
this Answer to the House of Commons: That, in regard they have offered no Reasons for the same, their
Lordships know not how to give an Answer; but,
when they shall shew their Lordships Reasons for so
doing, they will take the Business into Consideration.
"7. Concerning the securing the Persons of Recusants, it is Ordered, That this Business shall be
debated on Monday Morning next.
"8. Concerning the Eighth Proposition, touching the
Earl of Essex to have Power over the Trained Bands;
this House defers their Resolutions concerning this
Business until the Commission of the Earl of Essex,
for Captain General of the South, be brought into
this House and perused, which is to be done on Monday next."
Declaration sent to Ireland, and the Resolution of both Houses about the Irish Affairs to be sent to the King.
Ordered, That the Lord Keeper shall send the
Copy of the Declaration sent to Ireland, and the Resolutions of both Houses concerning the Irish Affairs, to
Dominus Custos Magni Sigilli declaravit præsens Parliamentum continuandum esse usque in diem Lunæ,
videlicet, 8m diem instantis Novembris, hora 9a Aurora, Dominis sic decernentibus.