DIE Lunæ, videlicet, 24 die Januarii.
PRAYERS.
Information concerning Ld. Digby's Business.
The Earl of Bristoll signified to this House, "That,
whereas Information was given before the Committee
at Grocers Hall, that a Servant of Mr. Oneale's should
come to his Lordship's House, and receive a Letter
with Five Pounds, which Letter was to be conveyed
to the Lord Digby; it is since come to his Lordship's
Knowledge by Accident (which he thought fit to
acquaint their Lordships withall), that the Letter was
delivered to Mr. Oneale's Man by Sir Lewis Dyves
(who lies in his Lordship's House), to be sent to the
Lord Digby, and gave the said Messenger Five Pounds,
to bear his Charges."
Ordered, That this be communicated to the Committee of the House of Commons at the Rising of the
House; and the Earl of Bristoll to make the same Narration there as he did now.
Letter concerning the Rebellion in Munister.
Next was read a Letter, written from the Earl of
Corke to the Lord Goringe, dated the 12th of January,
from Youghall, in Ireland; the Effect of which Letter
was: "That most of the Natives in Munster are in
Rebellion: That Youghall is the only Town in that
Province for the English to retire to, and they have but
Two Hundred Men to guard it, which they are forced
to pay daily with Money; and, if speedy Supplies
of Men, Money, Arms, and Provisions, are not sent
from hence, that Province will be wholly lost."
D°.
Another Letter, from the Earl of Corke, written to the
Earl of Warwicke, was read.
To be communicated to the H. C.
Ordered, That these Letters be communicated to
the House of Commons.
Then the Earl of Warwicke reported, "That the
Committee at Grocers Hall have met, and considered
of the Bill for the Contribution for Ireland; and the
Opinion of the Committee is, That it is fit to pass
as it is."
Contribution for Ireland Bill.
Hodie 3a vice lecta est Billa, An Act for a speedy Contribution and Loan, towards the Relief of His Majesty's distressed Subjects of the Kingdom of Ireland.
And, it being put to the Question, it was Resolved,
nemine contradicente, to pass as a Law.
The King to be moved for the Royal Assent to it.
Ordered, That the next Lords that go to the King
are to move Him to give His Royal Assent to this
Bill.
A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by John Hampden, Esquire:
Message from the H. C. for Oneale to be examined and be a close Prisoners.
"To let their Lordships know, That the Committee
of the House of Commons which sat at Grocers Hall
received Information, That one Saunders, a Servant of Mr. Oneale, lately passed through the City
Watch one Night, under a Counterfeit Name, and
stiled himself Mr. Holles's Servant; who, being suspected, was apprehended, and being examined, it
appeared that he hath had Conference with Mr.
Oneale. Upon this, Mr. Oneale hath been examined;
and their Examinations do differ.
"The Committee of the House of Commons finding that Mr. Oneale is committed by their Lordships,
the House of Commons desire that Mr. Oneale may
be examined again by some of the Members of the
House of Commons, but not upon Oath; and that
he be further restrained as a close Prisoner, that none
come to him, and speak with him, but in the Presence
of his Keeper, until he be examined.
And to adjourn the Bishops Trial.
"Also, whereas their Lordships have appointed Tomorrow for the Trial of the Twelve Bishops that are
impeached for High Treason by the House of Commons, they desire their Lordships will be pleased that
the said Trial may be deferred for some convenient
Time; and that, in (fn. *) the mean Time, some Examinations concerning that Business may be taken before the
Trial; and, for this Purpose, he was commanded by
the House of Commons to desire that their Lordships
would appoint a select Committee, to take the Examinations of such Witnesses as the House of Commons
shall produce, in the Presence of some Members of
the House of Commons."
Oneale to be examined.
Witnesses to be examined upon Interrogatories in the Case of the Twelve Bishops.
The House taking this Message into Consideration; it is Ordered, That Mr. Daniel Oneale, now a
Prisoner in The Gatehouse, shall be examined by such of
the Members of the House of Commons as they shall
appoint; and that none shall be permitted to speak or
converse with him, but in the Hearing of his Keeper,
until he hath been examined by some of the House of
Commons: And it is also Ordered, That a Committee of
Lords shall have Power from this House, by virtue hereof,
to examine such Witnesses upon Interrogatories as shall be
produced by the Members of the House of Commons,
against the Twelve Bishops lately impeached by them of
High Treason; and that the said Bishops may cross
examine the Witnesses before the said Lords Committees,
if they think good, in the Presence of the Committee
of the House of Commons: And lastly it is Ordered,
That their Cause now depending in this House shall be
peremptorily heard at the Bar, without any further Delay,
on Tuesday the First of February next ensuing; and
hereof the said Bishops and others herein concerned are
to take Notice, and attend the Hearing accordingly.
Committee to examine the Witnesses.
Lords Committees appointed by this House to take
the Examination of Witnesses, in the Presence of some
of the Members of the House of Commons, upon Interrogatories to be produced by them against the Twelve
Bishops impeached of High Treason: videlicet,
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The L. Steward.
L. Chamberlain.
Comes Bathon.
Comes South'ton.
Comes Pembrooke.
Comes Nottingham.
Comes Warwicke.
Comes Bristoll.
Comes Holland.
L. Viscount Say & Seale. |
Ds. Mowbray.
Ds. Wharton.
Ds. Pagett.
Ds. Spencer.
Ds. Brooke.
Ds. Robartes.
Ds. Pierpointe.
Ds. Savill.
Ds. Dunsemore.
Ds. Seymour. |
Their Lordships, or any of them, to meet when and
where they please; and any of the Members of
this House to be present (as at all other Committees), if they please.
A Message was brought from the House of Commons,
by Sir John Clattworthy, Knight:
Message from the H. C. for the Lords to concur in the following Propositions of the Scots about Ireland.
"To let their Lordships know, that whereas, at
Grocers Hall, some Lords of the Committee were appointed, with a proportionable Number of the Committee of the House of Commons, to speak with the
Scotts Commissioners, touching the speedy sending away of the Two Thousand and Five Hundred Scotts
into Ireland; the Scotts Commissioners have returned a Paper, containing an Answer thereunto, together with some Propositions, which they desire may
(fn. *) be granted by both Houses of Parliament, to
which the House of Commons have agreed, and offer
them to their Lordships Consideration, which were
read, as followeth: videlicet,
The Scots Propositions concerning 2500 Scots.
"Concerning the Propositions made to us the 22d of
January, from the Committees of both Houses, for
the transporting presently to Ireland of the Two
Thousand and Five Hundred Men now on Foot in
Scotland, we have no Instructions, for that we cannot by ourselves condescend otherwise than upon the
Closure of the Treaty; but shall most heartily represent it to the Council of Scotland, and second the
same with our earnest Desires that every Thing may
be done which may contribute to the Preservation of
that Kingdom, and may testify our Brotherly Affection to this; and that we may be the more able to
move the Council to condescend to the same, we desire the Propositions following to be granted:
Victuals.
"1. That Provisions of Victuals be presently sent to
Carrickfargus, to be sold to our Soldiers at reasonable
Rates, answerable to their Pay.
Money.
"2. That an Order be set down, how they shall be
paid there, and from whom they may require the
same.
Carrickfergus.
"3. That they have the Command and Keeping of
the Town and Castle of Carrickfergus, with Power to
them to remain still within the same, or to enlarge
their Quarters, and to go abroad in the Country, upon such Occasions as their Officers in their Discretion
shall think expedient for the Good of the Kingdom;
and, if it shall be thought fit that any Regiments or
Troops in that Province shall join with them, that
they receive Orders from the Commanders of our
Forces.
Artillery and Arms.
"4. That Provision of Match, Powder, and Bullets,
be presently sent to Carrickfergus; and what Arms,
Ammunition, or Artillery, shall be sent over with
them from Scotland, that the like Quantity be sent
from thence to Scotland, whensoever the same shall
be demanded.
10,000 l.
"5. That a Part of the Thirty Thousand Pounds of
the Brotherly Assistance be presently advanced to us,
which, although in a just Proportion to these Men it
will amount but unto Seven Thousand Five Hundred
Pounds, yet, for the better furthering of the Service,
we desire Ten Thousand Pounds, if it may stand with
your Conveniency.
Pay from the 8th of December.
"6. That their Pay, which we condescended unto from
the 8th of December, be presently advanced to
the 8th of February next, against which Time we are
confident they shall be ready to march.
Safe Convoy and Guard for Passage;
"7. That a Man of War, or some Merchant Ship,
be sent from Bristoll, West-Chester, or Dublin, to Locryan, for a safe Convoy and Guard of the Passage, because they, being in open Boats, may be subject to
Inconveniencies from the Enemy, whose Frigates, we
hear, are towards that Coast.
and sending the Men.
"8. That the sending over these Men be without
Prejudice to the Proceedings of the Treaty, which we
desire may (fn. †) go on without any Delay.
"Ja. Primrose."
Agreed to.
Ordered, That this House agrees with the House of
Commons unto these Propositions now presented from
the Scotts Commissioners in every Particular; and that
the Lords that go next to the King do acquaint His Majesty with them.
The Answer returned to the Messengers of the House
of Commons was:
Answer to the H. C.
That this House hath agreed with the House of Commons in all the aforesaid Propositions of the Scotts Commissioners.
Next, the Earl of Newport reported the King's Answer to the Petition of both Houses, concerning the
Proceedings against the Lord Kymbolton, and the Five
Members of the House of Commons, which was read,
in bæc verba: videlicet,
His Majesty, having (fn. *) considered the Petition presented unto Him the 21st of this Instant, by the Earl of
Newporte and the Lord Seymour, in the Name of both
Houses of Parliament, is pleased to return this Answer:
His Majesty's Answer to the Petition of both Houses, concerning L. Kymbolton, &c.
"That He doth well approve of the Desire of both
Houses, for the speedy Proceeding against the Persons mentioned in the Petition, wherein His Majesty
(finding the great Inconveniencies by the First Mistake
in the Way) hath endured some Delay, that He might
be informed in what Order to put the same; but, before that be agreed upon, His Majesty thinks it unusual and unfit to discover what Proof there is against
them, and therefore holds it necessary (lest a new
Mistake should breed more Delays, which His Majesty to His Power will avoid) that it be resolved, whether His Majesty be bound, in respect of Privilege,
to proceed against them by Impeachment in Parliament, or whether He be at Liberty to prefer an Indictment at the Common Law in the usual Way, or
have His Choice of either; whereupon His Majesty
will give such speedy Direction for the Prosecution, as
shall shew His Majesty's Desire to satisfy both Houses,
and to put a Determination to this Business."
Munition issuing to be supplied.
And further his Lordship reported, "That the King
hath granted a Warrant, for issuing out the Provisions
and Ammunitions for Ulster." And his Lordship intimated from the King, "That the Stores grow very
low, and are exhausted; therefore His Majesty desires the Parliament will take it (fn. †) into Consideration
how to supply the Stores of this Kingdom."
The Queen will send an Answer.
Touching the Queen's Answer, his Lordship reported,
That Her Majesty will send it either this Day or Tomorrow."
A Message was sent to the House of Commons, by
Sir Edward Leech and Doctor Bennett:
Message to the H. C. with the King's Answer.
To deliver a Copy of the King's Answer to the House
of Commons.
Then the Lord Lieutenant of Ireland reported the
Particulars that had passed at Grocers Hall, between the
Committees of both Houses: videlicet,
Report from the Committee at Grocers Hall.
"That, on the 21st of this Instant January, the Lords
Committees received a Message from the Committee of
the House of Commons, to this Effect:
Militia and the Forts.
Exceptions to L. Craven about Words.
"That the last Night, the Lords having sent down
to the House of Commons a Paper containing Thanks
to be given to the King for His Gracious Message
sent to both Houses, in which their Lordships desired
the House of Commons would join with them (fn. ‡) ,
which the House of Commons taking into Consideration thought it fit to make an Addition thereunto,
concerning the Militia and the Forts of this Kingdom,
and sent the said Addition up to the Lords by Mr.
Nathaniel Fynes, to desire that they would join with
them, that it may (fn. †) be presented to His Majesty with
the Thanks; since that Time, the Committee of the
Exceptions to L. Craven about Words.
House of Commons have been informed, That the
Lord Craven had said, That some of the House of
Commons did tell him, that he that brought the Message last Night did mistake the Sense of the House,
for the latter Part needed not to be annexed to our
Thanks to His Majesty.
"The Committee of the House of Commons did hereupon desire that the Lords Committees would enquire
of the Lord Craven, who they were of the House of
Commons that told him those Words.
"That the Lords Committees had required the Lord
Craven to reveal the Author that told him those
Words, and his Lordship refused to do it; which the
Lords Committees leave to the Consideration of this
House."
L. Digby gone to Sea.
2. Next his Lordship reported, "That the Lords
Committees received Information, by the Examination
of a Man of Sir John Pennington's, That the Lord
George Digby is gone to Sea, for, upon Tuesday last,
he did see the Ship (one of the King's Whelps) under Sail wherein he was, and, by the Wind and the
Steering of the Ship, he went for Holland; and that
the Horses which the Lord Digby did ride down upon
he hath brought up.
Petitions from sundry Counties about the Militia.
"3. A Message was brought from the Committee
of the House of Commons, by Sir John Corbet: To
desire the Lords Committees to take into their Consideration a Petition sent to them from the County of
Salop, and desired it might be read; and further
said, That the House of Commons had received divers
Petitions, of the same Nature, from several Counties
of this Kingdom; thereby they judge in what State
the Kingdom would be in, if any Foreign Enemy
should invade us: Therefore he was commanded to
acquaint the Lords Committees, how much it concerns the Safety of the Kingdom to have the Militia
of the Kingdom put into good Hands, and the Kingdom put into a Posture of Defence; and to desire the Lords would hasten their Answer concerning
the Addition concerning the Militia, made the last
Night to the Message which is to be presented to the
King, as Thanks for His Gracious Message.
"The Petition was read, in hæc verba: videlicet,
Shropshire Petition.
"To the Honourable the Knights, Citizens, and Burgesses of the Commons House of Parliament,
"The humble Petition of the Subscribers, in Behalf
of themselves and others, the Inhabitants of the
County of Salop.
"Humbly sheweth,
"That there are divers Roads through the County,
from several Parts of the Kingdom, to the Port of
Chester; and that divers Persons, calling themselves
Soldiers for the Irish Service, and affirming that they
are going to the Port of Chester to be embarked for
Ireland (whither it is said many popishly affected do
go in the Quality of Voluntiers), do commit divers
Insolencies and Robberies, banding themselves by
Tens and Twenties in a Troop and upwards, without
any Conductor or Officer; and your Petitioners fear
that, if these lesser Outrages be not truly suppressed,
some great Insurrections may ensue to the Danger of
the County:
"Wherefore your Petitioners do humbly pray, in
Behalf of themselves and the County, that some speedy Provision be made, whereby Monies may be warrantably cessed and levied, either for the raising of
Forces for the suppressing of Insurrections, riotous Assemblies, and Rebellions that may arise, or for the Payment of Officers and Soldiers of the Trained Bands,
and providing of Arms and Ammunition for the training and exercising of the same Soldiers by their Officers, in the Time of Peace, as also for Payment of
the said Officers and Soldiers, if Occasion be to
draw them into the Field; for the doing whereof,
your Petitioners do humbly pray that it may be considered, whether Directions shall be attended from
the Lord Lieutenant, or from whom, and also that
it may be declared how far confining Counties may
be aiding and assisting to one another, by leading
their Forces into the same.
"And your Petitioners shall daily pray, &c.
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"Ri. Newport.
Wm. Owen.
Henry Bromley.
Tho. Eyton.
Edw. Cressett.
An. Sandford.
Row. Hill.
Ed. Baudewin. |
Robert Corbett.
Tho. Lyster.
Tho. Mytton.
Wal. Perker.
Tho. Niccolls." |
His Lordship said, "That, upon this, the Lords Committees proceeded to the Consideration of the Addition brought up from the House of Commons last
Night, which was to be annexed to the Thanks to be
sent to the King for His Gracious Message; and it was
Resolved, upon the Question, That the Lords Committees think it sit to join with the House of Commons, for the annexing this Addition to the Thanks
which is to be given the King from both Houses."
Propositions from the H. C. for
Also it was reported, "That the Lords Committees
received a Message from the Committee of the House
of Commons, concerning these Propositions: videlicet,
Monies to be raised in Munster.
"1. To desire their Lordships would join with them,
that (fn. *) the King may be moved, to give Authority to
raise Monies in Munster, for the War of Ireland.
L. Dungarvan to be Governor of Youghall.
"2. To move the King, that a Commission may be
given to the Lord Dungarvan, for to be Governor of
Youghall.
Day for the L. Lieutenant and other Officers, to go to Ireland.
"3. That a short Day may be set for the Lord Lieutenant of Ireland, the Lord Viscount Conway, and other
Officers, to go for Ireland; the House of Commons
having set Tuesday next for such as are Members of
that House, and Officers and Commanders in Ireland,
to go.
Propositions of the Scots.
"4. To expedite the Propositions of the Scotts Commissioners.
"The Answer that the Lords Committees returned
hereunto was:
The Lords Answer thereunto.
"1. That, if the Committee of the House of Commons will propound any legal Way for raising of Monies in Munster, the Lords Committees will be ready
to join with them to move the King therein.
"2. Concerning the Second Proposition; for the
Commission for (fn. †) the Troop of Horse, the Lord Dungarvon hath it already. For the Government of Youghall, the Lord Lieutenant had never any Order from
the King to give any such Commission; but the Lords
Committees think it fit the King be moved therein for
his Lordship, by the Lord Lieutenant.
"3. Touching the Third Proposition, That the Lord
Lieutenant is ready at any Time to go into Ireland,
when the Parliament shall command him; but the
Lords Committees were of Opinion, that, until there
be Forces there sufficient for him to take the Field, it
may be dishonourable to the King and Kingdom for
him to be there; but, so soon as there be convenient
Forces there, he will be ready to go.
"As for the Lord Viscount Conway, he is not now
present; but the Lords Committees will send him
Word to come To-morrow, and then he will give his
own Answer. For the other Officers, their Lordships
will appoint Thursday next to be the Day that they
shall all be gone.
"4. Concerning the Fourth Proposition, this Answer
was returned: That their Lordships are ready to do
it with all Speed."
Next his Lordship reported, "That he, having received Letters from Ireland, concerning the Affairs of
that Kingdom, communicated them to the Committees
of both Houses, and delivered these Abstracts out of
them to the Committee of the House of Commons:
videlicet,
Abstracts of Letters from Ireland.
About Victuals.
"The Letters were dated the 17th of January from
Dubline, shewing, That the 18th of this Instant January, they were to begin the Provisions laid up in the
Castle of Dublin, in case of Siege, which will be soon
spent by the many Mouths that are to feed; therefore they desire that Provision may be sent with all
Speed, in particular Butter, Cheese, and Provender
for Horses.
Hastening the Scots away.
"By Letters likewise of the 17th of January from
Dublin, it is advertised that Phelim O'Neale, with the
greatest Power of the Rebels, was drawing towards
Treda, which the Justices and Council of Ireland do
conceive the Rebels could not have done if the Scotts
had been landed in the North of Ireland; and therefore they desire that the Scotts passing into Ireland
may be hastened, for the Defence of that Kingdom,
and especially Dublin.
"The Earl of Esmond's Letter and the Justices Letter were likewise communicated to the Committee of
the House of Commons."
His Lordship further reported, That, upon the 22d
of this Instant January, the Lords Committees met,
and took into Consideration the Scotts Proposition,
and gave these Resolutions as follow: videlicet,
Scots Propositions agreed to.
"To the First Proposition, it was Resolved, upon the
Question, That the Lords Committees do agree to the
First Article with the House of Commons.
"To the Second Proposition, the Lords Committees
agreed with the House of Commons therein.
"To the Third Proposition, the Lords Committees
agreed that an Explanation be made by the House of
Commons, what they mean by the Word ["General"] in their Resolution to this Article; and likewise
to propound unto the Committee of the House of
Commons, That the Lords Committees think it fit, in
regard they conceive there are no Horses to be had
in Ulster, that the Scotts Commissioners be treated
withall, to agree upon a Sum to furnish themselves
with Horses for carrying of their Baggage, or else
that the Horses might be raised for them here in England.
"To the Fourth Proposition, it was Resolved, upon
the Question, by the Lords Committees, To agree
with the House of Commons in this Article.
"To the Fifth Proposition, the Lords Committees
think that these Alterations be made: videlicet,
"Whereas it is said ["whereof they shall from Time
to Time give them an Account"], it is to be ["give an
Account to the Chief Governor of the Kingdom of Ireland, for the Time being];" also that those Three
Propositions in this Article be referred to be new
treated (fn. *) of: videlicet,
"1. Concerning such Towns and Places as shall be
recovered from the Rebels by the Scotts Army, to be
at the Disposing of the Scotts Commanders.
"2. Concerning the General of the Scotts Army being commanded by the English Commander in Chief.
"3. Concerning the Manner of their Marching, and
the rest of that Article.
"To the Sixth Article, the Lords Committees agree
with the House of Commons.
"To the Seventh Article, the Lords Committees agree
with the House of Commons, that this Article be recommitted."
"The Resolutions being made, the Lords Committees
had a Free Conference with the Committee of the
House of Commons, and acquainted them with what
had been done; who returned this Answer:
"That the House of Commons did mean by the Word
["General"], in their Resolution to the Third Proposition ["he that commands in Chief in the Scotts
Army"].
"For the raising of Horse in Ulster, the Committee
of the House of Commons gave this Answer, That
they do see more Difficulty now in raising Horses in
Ulster than they did when that Vote was made, the
Enemies having since much prevailed in that Province;
therefore they did desire that it might be recommended to the English Commissioners, that they would propound it to the Scotts Commissioners, that they would proeither accept of a Sum of Money, and find themselves
Horses, or else that the Horses might be raised for
them here in this Kingdom.
"Concerning the Fifth Article, the Committee of the
House of Commons agreed, that the Account should
be made to the Chief Governor of the Kingdom of
Ireland for the Time being.
"Also the Committee of the House of Commons do
agree that the Three Propositions in this Article; videlicet, 1. Concerning the Towns to be taken by the
Scotts from the Rebels, to be disposed of by their Commanders; 2. Concerning their General being under
the Command of the English General; 3. Concerning
the Manner of their Marching, and the rest of that
Article; these Three to be new treated of.
2500 Scots to be sent to Ireland.
"At the same Free Conference, the Committee of
the House of Commons propounded to the Lords
Committees, That some Lords may be appointed to
join with a proportionable Number of the House of
Commons, and go this Night to the Scotts Commissioners, and to propose unto them, from the Committees
of both Houses, That the Two Thousand Five Hundred Men, which are now paid in Scotland by the Parliament of England, may be presently sent to Carrickfergus.
"Hereupon these Lords were chosen by the Lords
Committees, to go presently, with a proportionable
Number of the Committee of the House of Commons,
and speak with the Scotts Commissioners about this
Business: videlicet,
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Comes Bedford,
Comes Cambridge, |
L. Viscount Say & Seale, and
L. Brooke. |
"These Lords returned with this Answer from the
Scotts Commissioners, That there are but Two of them
now together, and they could not treat without more
of their Company; but they will look into their Instructions, and send the Lords Committees an Answer
on Monday Morning, which should be satisfactory."
This Report being ended, this House commanded the
Message, which is to (fn. *) be presented to the King, by Way
of Thanks for His Gracious Message sent to both Houses,
to be read; and, after that, the Addition brought up
from the House of Commons, which the Committees at
Grocers Hall have voted to be annexed to the Thanks:
videlicet,
Address of Thanks to His Majesty.
"Whereas the Houses of Parliament have received
from Your Majesty a Message, expressing much Grace
and Favour to all Your Majesty's Subjects, they have
thought fit to return to Your Majesty most humble
Thanks for the same, and to let Your Majesty know,
that they will take it into such speedy and serious Consideration as a Proposition of that great Importance
doth require."
The Addition offered by the House of Commons to be
annexed:
Additions proposed by the Commons.
"And, to the further Intent that they may be enabled with Security to discharge their Duties herein, they humbly beseech Your Sacred Majesty to
raise up unto them a sure Ground of Safety and
Confidence, by putting The Tower and other principal
Forts of this Kingdom, and the whole Militia thereof,
into the Hands of such Persons as Your Parliament
may confide in, and as shall be recommended unto
Your Majesty by both Houses of Parliament, that,
all Fears and Jealousies being laid aside, they may with
all Chearfulness proceed to such Resolutions as they
hope will lay a sure Foundation of Honour, Greatness, and Glory to Your Majesty and Your Royal
Posterity, and of Happiness and Prosperity unto Your
Subjects throughout all Your Dominions."
This Amendment rejected.
And, after a long Debate, it was put to the Question;
and it was Resolved, by the major Part, That this House
doth not confirm nor approve of the Vote of the Committee, concerning the Addition brought from the House
of Commons, to the Thanks to be given to the King.
These Lords following, before the putting of the
Question, desired their Right of Protestation, if they
were out-voted, which the House granted; and accordingly entered their Protestation.
"The Protestation:
Protest against it.
"Whereas the Desire brought from the House of
Commons concerning the Forts and Militia of the
Kingdom concerneth much the Safety of the Kingdom, the Service of the King, the general Peace and
Quiet of this Land, and is (as I conceive) absolutely
necessary to the settling of the present Distempers,
and tendeth to the Furtherance of Trade, now
much obstructed and decayed, as hath been represented by several Petitions from the City of London and
sundry other Counties; I protest against the Vote of
rejecting of that Desire of the Commons, and do testify my Dissent, to discharge myself from all the
Mischiefs and ill Consequences that may thereupon
follow:
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"Lord Chamberlain.
"Similiter Comes Warwicke.
"Similiter Comes Pembrooke.
"Similiter Comes Holland.
"Similiter Comes Stanford.
"Similiter L. Viscount Say & Seale.
"Similiter Comes Bedford.
"Similiter Comes Leycester.
"Similiter Comes Clare.
"Similiter Comes Lincolne.
"Similiter Comes Sarum.
"Similiter Comes Peterborough.
"Similiter Comes Bollingbrooke.
"Similiter Comes Thanett.
"Similiter Comes Nottingham.
"Similiter L. Viscount Conway.
"Similiter Ds. Paget.
"Similiter Ds. Kymbolton.
"Similiter Ds. Brooke.
"Similiter Ds. Robartes.
"Similiter Ds. North.
"Similiter Ds. Wharton.
"Similiter Ds. St. Johns.
"Similiter Ds. Spencer.
"Similiter Ds. Newnham.
"Similiter Ds. Willoughby de Parham.
"Similiter Ds. Bruce.
"Similiter Ds. Dacres.
"Similiter Ds. Howard De Estcrigg.
"Similiter Ds. Grey De Warke.
"Similiter Ds. Chandois.
"Similiter Ds. Hunsden. |
Message from the H. C. about some Words spoken by Lord Craven of Mr. Fynes.
A Message was brought from the House of Commons,
by Sir Phillip Stapleton, Knight:
To let their Lordships know, that it hath been understood in the House of Commons, that the Lord Craven should report some Words concerning Mr. Nath.
Fynes, a Member of their House; videlicet, That some
of the House of Commons did tell him that he that
brought (fn. *) last Night did mistake the Sense of the House,
for the latter Part needed not to be annexed to our
Thanks to His Majesty. The House of Commons desires, for the righting themselves and Mr. Fynes, that
their Lordships would enjoin the Lord Craven to reveal
who those Persons were that told him those Words.
2. The House of Commons desires, that, if their
Lordships do agree with the House of Commons in the
Addition to be added to the Thanks to be given to the
King, that their Lordships would send to His Majesty.
Lord Craven desires Time till To-morrow, to answer.
Hereupon the Lord Craven desired Time until Tomorrow to consider what Answer to give herein; which
the House granted.
The Answer returned to the Messengers of the House
of Commons was:
Answer to the H. C.
That this House thinks it not fit to join with the House
of Commons in the Addition brought up by Mr. Fynes.
Adjourn.
Dominus Custos Magni Sigilli declaravit præsens Parliamentum continuandum esse usque in diem Martis,
videlicet, 25m diem Januarii, 1641, hora 2a post meridiem, Dominis sic decernentibus.