House of Commons Journal Volume 1: 03 May 1610

Jovis, 3o Maii, 1610

Privilege.

Mr. Irby, for Leave for Mr. Pelham to proceed in the Exchequer, notwithstanding a former Stay.

Jennison.

Mr. Bowes, - for Jennison: - Monday Sennight.

Silk-dyers.

Mr. Fuller - report the old Bill for Silk-dyers, as fit to sleep; and bringeth in a new Bill from the Committee.

Conference.

Mr. Chancellor, - touching the Message to the Lords. - Whether first to pray Conference: - Resolved. - After, to deliver the Message verbally at the Conference, and to take the Help of a Paper.

Sea-sand.

L. 3a. B. - Sea-sand.

Counsel heard.

Against it, Mr. Finch:

With it, Mr. Richison, Mr. Cottle. -

Conference.

Mr. Chancellor sent to desire Conference. -

Sea-sand.

" And others, Carriers of Sand," put into the Bill. -

A Certificate from the Justices of Peace in Devon, under divers of their Hands, from the Quarter Sessions. - Mr. Fuller, Sir Wm. Twysden, Mr. Martin, Sir Carey Raleigh, Sir Nath. Bacon, Mr. Percyvall. -

Dispute of the Bill put off till To-morrow.

Conference.

Mr. Chancellor returneth: - To-morrow Afternoon. - For that this Cause hath been carried with a sweet Correspondence, and their Lordships must participate in the Good, or Ill, made manifest and clear by the Arguments ; that either might know others Minds: - That the Committees might have Liberty to hear Propositions, and Questions, and to make Answers; as also to ask Questions; not concluding any thing on either Part.

Mr. Brook, contra : - That no such Liberty. - To hear what they will say, and then report nothing.

Sir Geo. Moore: - To ask, and clear, on both Sides.

Sir Nath. Bacon: - We not wise alone, but together; therefore no Liberty.

Mr. Hoskins: - We may mistake in answering: The wisest have mistaken.

Q. Whether any Authority to answer, or dispute: -

Resolved, Not.

Some Persons to make Report: - King's learned Counsel, Sir Edw. Sandys, Mr. Finch, Mr. Crewe, Mr. Hoskins, Mr. Martin, Sir Roger Owen, Sir Herbert Crofts, Sir Maurice Berkley.

Mr. Carleton: - That Mr. Chancellor, in his Message, might not be tied to the Words; but to express himself in other Words, if so he thought good. -

To tell the Lords, in the End of the Message, that they have no Authority to answer.

Ld. Clynton.

My Lord Clynton's Cause - to the Committee for Privileges.

Essex's Estate.

Committees appointed to consider of the Amendments in Mr. Essex his Bill, from the Lords: - Sir Wm. Fleetwood's Motion: - Mr. Francis Moore, Sir Jerome Horsey, Sir H. Poole, Mr. Hoskins, Sir Fr. Goodwyn, Sir Rob. Cotton, Sir Rob. Johnson, Mr. Martin, Sir Wm. Fleetwood, Sir Tho. Challoner, Mr. Brook, Mr. Carveth, Mr. Bacchus, Sir Wm. Paddye: - To meet To-morrow Morning, at Seven a Clock.