House of Lords Journal Volume 9
27 April 1647

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'House of Lords Journal Volume 9: 27 April 1647', Journal of the House of Lords: volume 9: 1646 (1767-1830), pp. 151-157. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=37025 Date accessed: 22 August 2014.


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DIE Martis, 27 die Aprilis.
Letter from the Parliament of Scotland; and from the Scots Commissioners. Answer from the H. C. Letter from the Parliament of Scotland, that they have appointed Commissioners, to present the Propositions to the King. Message to the H. C. with it; and with Remedies to remove Obstructions in Church Government. Report of the Service of draughting Forces for Ireland. Scandalous Pamphlet called Machiavelism, &c. Capt. Style & al. sent for about it. Money to be provided for discharging Officers Arrears. Sir H. Mildmay and Sir T. Cheek. L. Say & Seale versus Mildmay. Instructions for the Commissioners, going to the King with the Propositions. Paper from the Scots Commissioners, with a Letter from the Parliament of Scotland. Proceedings of the Commissioners for treating with the Officers, &c. to serve in Ireland. Informations &c. that Col. Lilburn endeavoured to hinder the Soldiers of his Regiment from serving in Ireland. Petition of the Officers and Soldiers of Sir T. Fairfax's Army. Representation from them, desiring an Act of Indemnity for their Actions in this War;—for their Arrears to be paid;—for a Provision for the Widows and Maimed, &c. Informations concerning Endeavours to prevent Soldiers from serving in Ireland, and to raise a Mutiny for their Arrears. Information concerning a Pamphlet, called, A new found Stratagem framed in the Old Forge of Machiavilism. Order for the Quarter Sessions in Bucks to be held at Aylsbury. Order of the Justices of that County, to the same Effect. Adjourn. Footnotes

DIE Martis, 27 die Aprilis.

PRAYERS, by Mr. Salwey.

Domini præsentes fuerunt:

Comes Manchester, Speaker.

Comes Pembrooke.
Comes Mulgrave.
Comes Warwicke.
Comes Kent.
Comes Sarum.
Comes Northumb.
Comes Lyncolne.
L. Viscount Say & Seale.
Comes Suffolke.
L. Viscount Hereford.
Ds. Robertes.
Ds. Dacres.
Ds. Hunsdon.
Ds. Bruce.
Ds. Grey.
Ds. Howard.
Ds. North.
Ds. Wharton.
Ds. Willoughby.
Ds. Maynard.

Letter from the Parliament of Scotland;

A Letter from the Parliament of Scotland, delivered by Scotts Commissioners, was read, dated at Edinburgh, 25th March, 1647. (Here enter it.)

and from the Scots Commissioners.

A Paper from the said Commissioners, was read. (Here enter it.)

Ordered, That these Papers be communicated to the House of Commons.

Answer from the H. C.

Dr. Aylett and Mr. Sadler returned with this Answer to the Message sent to the House of Commons.

That they agree to the Ordinance concerning Mrs. Burghill: To all the rest, they will send an Answer by Messengers of their own.

Letter from the Parliament of Scotland, that they have appointed Commissioners, to present the Propositions to the King.

"Right Honorable,

"The Estates of Parliament (fn. *) being this Tyme bygone employed about the Affaires of this Kingdome, the Orderinge whereof could not admitt of Delayes, have now taken Occasion to let your Lordship know, that they have appointed their Comissioners, to joyne with such as shall be warranted by you, to desire His Majesty's Assent to the Propositions of Peace; and to presente to the Honorable the earnest Desire of this Kingdome, that Reformation of Religion and Uniformity, which was the cheife Ground of our Engagement in the Cause, be speedily setled and putt in Practise; that all good Meanes be used for obteyning a just and solid Peace; and that it is their harty Resolution, and shall be their constant Endeavour, to keepe a good Understandinge, and to cherish and preserve the Union betwixt the Kingdomes; all which will be more particulerly made knowne to your Lordship by the Earle of Lauderdaill and other Commissioners, who are fully authorized with Instructions from this Kingdome, and are hereby recomended to your Acceptance, by

"Your Lordship's

"Affectionate Freinds and Servants,

Edingburgh, 25th March, 1647.

"Crawford & Lyndsey,

"President of Parliament."

Message to the H. C. with it;

A Message was sent to the House of Commons, by Doctor Aylett and Mr. Sadler:

To deliver the Letter from the Parliament of Scotland, and the Paper from the Scotts Commissioners.

and with Remedies to remove Obstructions in Church Government.

2. To deliver to them the Remedies for some Obstructions in Church Government, with the Alterations, wherein to desire Concurrence; and if they agree, that then they may be speedily printed and published.

Report of the Service of draughting Forces for Ireland.

The Earl of Warwicke presented to this House an Account of the Employment of himself and the rest of the Commissioners that went down to the Army, to draw out such as would go to Ireland; which was read.

(Here enter it.)

Also was read a Paper of some Obstructions which they found in that Service.

(Here enter it.)

Scandalous Pamphlet called Machiavelism, &c.

Next, a scandalous Pamphlet, intituled, "A newfound Stratagem, framed in the ould Forge of Machivilisme, and put upon the Inhabitants of the County of Essex, &c." was read.

Ordered, That the Speaker do give the Earl of Warwicke and the Lord Dacres Thanks, for their great Pains and Care in this Business.

Capt. Style & al. sent for about it.

Ordered, That Captain Style, in Colonel Lambert's Regiment, shall appear forthwith before this House, to answer his Offence concerning the scandalous Pamphlet; and that Roger Crauft his Serjeant, James Willet, Colonel Ayloffe, and James Mason, shall attend this House as Witnesses.

Ordered, That all the Persons mentioned in the Report, which are Obstructors to the Service of Ireland, shall be sent for, to appear before this House forthwith, to answer the said Offences; and all the Witnesses to attend.

Money to be provided for discharging Officers Arrears.

"Resolved upon the Question, That the Lords, having received a Report from those Lords that were sent down to the Army, do think it necessary that speedy Care be taken for providing of Money, that such of the Army, as shall not engage themselves in the Service of Ireland may be disbanded, and have Six Weeks Pay of their Arrears, and that those that shall engage themselves in that Service may have such a present Proportion of Pay paid unto them as may give them Encouragement to go chearfully on in the Service."

Ordered, That this Vote be sent to the House of Commons, by Mr. Justice Bacon and Mr. Justice Pheasant, to desire their Concurrence therein.

Sir H. Mildmay and Sir T. Cheek.

Ordered, That the Cause between Sir Henry Mildmay and Sir Thomas Cheeke shall be heard this Day Sevennight.

L. Say & Seale versus Mildmay.

Ordered, That Mr. Mildmay and Thomas Smyth shall attend this House, with the Witnesses, on Thursday Morning next.

Instructions for the Commissioners, going to the King with the Propositions.

Ordered, That the Instructions to be given to the Commissioners for presenting Propositions to the King shall be taken into Consideration on Thursday Morning next.

Paper from the Scots Commissioners, with a Letter from the Parliament of Scotland.

"In Pursuance of the Comaunds of the Parliament of Scotland, wee doe herewith deliver their Letter to both Houses of Parliament; and are further to lett your Lordships knowe, that they looke upon it as a speciall Blessing from Heaven, that God hath bin pleased soe strictly to unite these Kingdomes, for soe good Ends, by solemne League and Covenant: And as it hath bin their constant Care, by all good Endeavors, inviolably to preserve that happy Union according to the Covenant and Treatyes, and is their firme Resolution to cherish and intertayne every Meane, which may continue a good Correspondence and promote a further Union; soe the Experience they have of Love and Kindnes of their Brethren of England gives them Confidence, that they will alsoe continue to lay Hould on all Oppertunityes which may further and improve it, that soe, by joynt Consultations and Resolutions in what may concerne mutuall Interest and Safety, both may be strengthened against the common Enemy, a happy Peace may be setled upon a sure Foundation and a neerer Union attained, and transmitted to Posterity. In all which, wee are ready, according to the Direction of the Parliament of Scotland, to contribute our best Endeavors.

"By Comaund of the Commissioners for the Parliament of Scotland.

26th April, 1647.

"Jo. Cheisly."

Proceedings of the Commissioners for treating with the Officers, &c. to serve in Ireland.

"The Sum of the Commissioners Proceedings at Saffron Walden, in Order to the Service of Ireland.

"The Manner of their treating with the General his Excellency, and with the Officers of the Army, hath been represented by Letters from the said Commissioners to the Committee of Lords and Commons for the Affairs of Ireland at Derby House; and the same is now before the Houses, upon a Report from the said Committee.

"The Officers and Soldiers engaging for the Service of Ireland, and the Disposal of them at present, by the said Commissioners, is represented as followeth:

"Of the General's own Regiment of Foot, divers Officers have declared for themselves and others of that Regiment; and it is conceived that about Six Companies of that Regiment will engage in the Irish Service; for the drawing forth of which from the Army the Commissioners have issued a Warrant to Lieutenant Colonel Tho. Jackson the Lieutenant Colonel thereof, for the doing of it by himself, or for the appointing of Captain Muskett to perform the same, being the Eldest Captain of that Regiment that hath engaged, and to quarter such as shall be drawn forth at

"The Officers of Colonel Thomas Rainsborough's Regiment of Foot having intrusted Captain Geo. Drury and Captain Thomas Creamer to attend their Colonel, and to receive Commands from the Regiment, with Promise to perform what they shall act in their Behalf, without Violation; the said Captain George Drury did, on the 22th of April Instant, attend the Commissioners at Saffron Walden, and engaged himself to go in the Service of Ireland; and declared his Belief, that the rest of the said Regiment, Officers and Soldiers, will for the most Part engage therein; and that he will improve his utmost Endeavour in that Behalf. Captain Browne, and John Hericke his Ensign, have also signified their Resolution to go.

"Several Officers of Colonel Robert Hamond's Regiment of Foot, belonging to Seven several Companies of that Regiment, subscribed before the Commissioners to engage themselves, and their best Endeavours to engage the Officers and Soldiers under their respective Commands, for the Service of Ireland; and Captain Charles O Hara, One of the Captains of the said Regiment, hath Order from the Commissioners to draw into a Body from the Army such of the Officers, Companies, and Soldiers of that Regiment, as shall so engage; and to quarter them about Newport Pannell, Oulney, and Willey Hundreds, in the Counties of North'ton and Bedford.

"Several Officers in Colonel Sir Hardresse Waller's Regiment of Foot have subscribed to engage for Ireland, as also to use their best Endeavours to engage the Companies under their several Commands; and did also declare the Intentions of divers others then absent to join therein: And since the Commissioners Return to London, Captain Daniell Thomas, One of the Officers of the said Regiment, being authorized by the Commissioners to treat with the Regiment, gives an Account that Six Companies of the said Regiment have declared themselves for Ireland.

"Several Officers of the Foot Regiment late Colonel Fortescue's have subscribed to engage their Persons, and to improve their best Interest, for the Service of Ireland; and Power being given by the Commissioners to Colonel James Gray, to draw forth such as should engage, and to quarter them at Bromsgrove, in the County of Worcester, and thereabouts, he hath certified the Commissioners, since their Return to London, that there were marching towards the Quarters assigned, of the Officers and Soldiers of that Regiment, near Five Hundred and Forty Men.

"In the Foot Regiment of Colonel Rich'd Ingouldsby, Assurance was given of Major Duckett's engaging for Ireland; and the Lieutenants of the Lieutenant Colonel and of Captain Wagstaff's Companies engaged their Persons, and gave Assurance of engaging the said several Companies, which, upon their engaging, they had Order from the Commissioners to draw forth and quarter at Bromsgrove, in Com. Worcester, till further Order.

"In Colonel Edward Harley's Foot Regiment, some Officers of Two Companies signified their Acceptance of the Irish Service, and their Intention to advance it all they can; and, since the Commissioners Return to London, Notice was given them, that a considerable Part of that Regiment are resolved to engage therein.

"Of Colonel William Harbert's Foot Regiment, the Colonel engaged himself, and gave Assurance of engaging most of the said Regiment, both Officers and Soldiers; and that what should be short of the Whole, he shall be able to recruit in Wales: Whereupon Orders were given by the Commissioners, to draw off such as should so engage, and to quarter them at Shipton upon Stower, Winscomb, Camden, and the Parts thereabouts, till further Order from the Parliament.

"In Colonel Robert Lilburne's Regiment, most of the Officers of Eight Companies subscribed for Ireland; and Lieutenant Colonel Kempson, having Order to draw off such as engaged, and to quarter them about Evesham, in the County of Worcester, he certified the Commissioners, That (fn. *) in a Body marching towards the Quarters assigned of those that had engaged Five Hundred and Twenty; and before the Commissioners coming from Walden, the said Lieutenant Colonel certified the Commissioners, That about Sixty more were come to him since his drawing off the rest; so that, in all the Foot Regiments before mentioned, there are engaged, by Subscription, Personal Promise, or Assurance from others, some of the Officers of about Fifty Companies: And for their better Encouragement, the Commissioners promised the said Officers, that it should be recommended to the Parliament, that, if any of the Officers should withhold from the Service, the next in Succession might supply his Place.

"For the Regiments of Horse.

"Colonel Thomas Sheffeild and Ten of his Officers subscribed to engage their Persons, and to use their best Endeavours to engage the Soldiers of their respective Troops; whereof the Commissioners expect a sudden Account.

"Colonel Butler and Two of his Officers did also declare their own Resolutions for Ireland, and to engage as many other of the Officers and Soldiers of his Regiment as they can; of which the Commissioners expect a sudden Account.

"Of Colonel Riche's Regiment of Horse, Two Officers did subscribe, to engage for Ireland their Persons, and as many others of that Regiment as they can; and another Officer gave Assurance of a like Resolution.

In Colonel Graves's Regiment of Horse, Wm. Lord Caulfeild engaged for his Troop to go for Ireland.

"In the General's Life-guard, the Captain and Captain Lieutenant subscribed their Willingness to promote the Service of Ireland, by engaging themselves, and as many Gentlemen of the Troop as they can, upon the same Establishment of Pay that was allowed them in England.

"In Colonel Okey's Regiment of Dragoons, Major Moore and other of the Officers attended the Commissioners, and expressed their Resolution for Ireland, and to engage as many others as they can; and, in the Whole, Assurance was given of Five Captains of that Regiment their Resolution to engage in that Service."

Informations &c. that Col. Lilburn endeavoured to hinder the Soldiers of his Regiment from serving in Ireland.

"Copy of Major Francis Dormar's Letter to Lieutenant Colonel Kempson, concerning Colonel Lilburne's Speeches to the Soldiers of his late Regiment, then upon their March under the Charge of the said Lieutenant Colonel Kempson.

"SIR,

"I thought it necessary to send Two Soldiers to be examined by you. Their Names are, John Pell and Stephen Lane. I conceive, they will give you very good Satisfaction concerning Colonel Lilburne. He told them, That Lieutenant Colonel Kempson was the Occasion of drawing them out of Suffolke; and that they were deluded and drawn in for Ireland; and Language to that Effect. Their Examinations will speak more.

"Your most humble Servant,

"Francis Dormar."

"The Examinations of the said Persons, taken before the Commissioners at Saffron Walden, 22 April, 1647.

John Pell and Stephen Lane, Soldiers in Colonel Robert Lilburne's Regiment of Foot, did this Day inform before the Commissioners, That, on Tuesday last, the 20th of April Instant, their said Colonel, overtaking them in their March, said unto the Company, "Fellow Soldiers, I am sorry you are marching up and down such Weather as this; you may thank your Lieutenant Colonel for it." And another Gentleman, then in Company with the said Colonel, said further, "They delude you as ignorant Men, to go for Ireland; no godly Man would desire you to go for that Affair." In Testimony whereof, the said Informants have hereunto set their Hands, the 22th of April, 1647.

"John Pell.
Stephen Lane, his Mark."

"Copy of a Letter to Lieutenant Colonel Kempson, delivered to the Commissioners, by the said Lieutenant Colonel Kempson, 22 April, 1647, signed by Alexander Fry Lieutenant to Lieutenant Colonel Kempson's Company, (fn. *) Ovan Morris Ensign to Captain Henry Lilburne's Company in the said Regiment.

"Noble Sir,

"These are to let you know, that the Colonel hath this Morning sent his Man, with Orders unto Lieutenant Toppin for to march with his Company unto Haverill; using these Expressions, saying, "That the Lieutenant Colonel would carry them for Ireland, and would they obey the Lieutenant Colonel before the Colonel's Orders?" Which hath caused a Mutiny already in the Company of Captain Lilburne. Sir, the Company we stay, until we have Orders from you. Of this there is Witness Four or Five, or more. The Company we stay at Wetsworth Bridge. We remain

"Your humble Servants,

"Alex. Fry.
Evan Morris."

"Copy of another Letter to the said Lieutenant Colonel, delivered the Commissioners 22 April. 1647, at Saffron Walden, being from Robert Fish, Captain Lieutenant to Colonel Lilburne.

"Lieutenant Colonel,

"My Service presented you. Sir, these are to let you understand, that I am informed that the Waggonmaster hath pressed Horses to draw the Waggons To-morrow Morning to Hatherly, in Suffolke; and also Colonel Lilburne sent me Orders to march this Day to Hatherly; which I will do nothing in, nor stir till I hear from your Worship. I sent One of my Serjeants to you in the Morning, but have heard nothing of him as yet. I desire your Worship will be pleased to send me your Mind by this Bearer, what I shall do in the Removing of my Company, or what you will have me do. Some of the Soldiers told me, that One of the Waggoners should say, that my Colonel did say to him, "That there were no Soldiers to go for Ireland, unless they please; and that, if they stay here in England, they shall not want for any Thing;" and other more disheartening Words to the Soldiers, which, I conceive, will dishearten them much: And one Wiltsheir, the Marshal's Man, told my Ensign, that my Colonel said, "The Three Weeks Pay should be paid all to the Soldiers Tomorrow." My Ensign presents his humble Service to your Worship.

"Your humble Servant to command, Rob't Fish."

"Together with the Letters before mentioned, there was delivered at the same Time this Information following:

"Upon Easter-day, Colonel Lilburne's Servant came to Barrington, and brought Orders to Lieutenant Toppin to march into Suffolke, and delivered the Orders to Serjeant Gates of that Company, and told him, in the Presence of other Soldiers, "That the Lieutenant Colonel Kempson intended to draw Five Companies of the Regiment into Ireland;" and asked, "Whether they would obey the Lieutenant Colonel or Colonel Lilborne's Orders?" He told them, "That the Colonel was to remain with the Residue of his Regiment in England, and Kempson was to go into Ireland."

"Geo. Gates, John Floyd, John Pell, Rich'd Lilly, Henry Cope, and many more, are ready to testify the Premises upon Oath."

"At the same Time the Information following was delivered to the Commissioners, by the said Lieutenant Colonel Kempson:

Thomas Ridgley and John Harwood, Soldiers under the Command of Major Francis Dormar, say, and are ready to testify upon Oath, That Francis Nicholls, late Ensign to the said Major Dormar, being in the Company of them the said Ridgly and Harwood and other Soldiers, did say, and advise them, as followeth:

"That, if they would not go for Ireland, he would undertake to provide sufficiently for them; and counseled them to meet together this Morning, being 21th April, 1647, and come to Major Dormar, and demand their Three Weeks Pay of him; and if in case he refused to pay them, they should find him at his Colonel's Quarters in Saffron Walden, and he would acquaint the General with (fn. *) it, procure them their Pay, and provide Quarters for them. He likewise read a Petition to them (lately prohibited by both Houses of Parliament), speaking to undervalue those that went for Ireland, and endeavoured to incense them against the Propositions for that Service; saying to them, "That those that engaged themselves in that Service should be drawn away, and not receive a Penny till they were on Shipboard." Further, "That Colonel Lilburne was to recruit his Regiment, and that it should be a Standing Regiment in England;" also, "That those that went with him should fare no worse than the General fared."

"Tho. Ridgly.
The Mark of John Harwood."

"Copy of Major Francis Dormer's Letter to Lieutenant Colonel Kempson, delivered by him to the Commissioners, at Saffron Walden, 22 April. 1647.

"SIR,

"About Ten of the Clock this Morning, I received Intelligence, that Nicholls my Ensign was very busy with my Soldiers, and used Means to seduce them; whereupon I presently sent for him, and questioned him about it: And he very fairly confessed it; and upon my Demand delivered me the Petition, which he read to the Soldiers: Whereupon I thought good to secure his Person till I heard from you. He was no sooner come, but many of my Soldiers came to my Quarters in a mutinous Manner, and demanded their Pay; saying, "They would have it, and go to the General to know how they should be disposed of; for not a Step towards Ireland would they go." I confess, this Accident, meeting with my Sickness, did somewhat trouble me: But I presently arose from my Bed, and went amongst them; and at the last pacified them, and gave them such Satisfaction, that they went away quietly to their Quarters. Sir, I have no more at this Time to trouble you with, but to remain

"Your most humble Servant,

Sarston, April 21th, 1647.

"Francis Dormar.

"To his Ever-honoured Colonel Kempson, present these, at his Quarters in Duyworth."

Petition of the Officers and Soldiers of Sir T. Fairfax's Army.

"Copy of the Petition delivered by Francis Niccolls to Major Dormer, and to the Commissioners at Saffron Walden by Lieutenant Colonel Kempson, 22 April. 1647.

"To his Excellency Sir Thomas Fairefax, General for the Parliament Forces:

"The humble Petition of the Officers and Soldiers of the Army under your Command;

"Sheweth,

"That, ever since our First Engaging in this Service, for preserving the Power of this Kingdom in the Hands of the Parliament, we have, in our several Places, served them with all Faithfulness; and although we have lain under many Discouragements, for Want of Pay and other Necessaries, yet have we not disputed their Command, disobeyed their Orders, nor disturbed them with Petitions: Nor have there any visible Discontents appeared amongst us, to the Encouragement of their Enemies, and the Impediment of their Affairs; but have with all Chearfulness done Summer Service in Winter Seasons, improving the utmost of our Abilities in the Advancement of their Service: And seeing God hath now crowned our Endeavours with the End of our Desires, (videlicet,) the dispersing of their Public Enemies, and reducing them to their Obedience, the King being now brought in, our Brethren the Scotts now satisfied and departed the Kingdom, all Danger seemingly blown over, and Peace in all their Quarters; we (emboldened by their manifold Promises (fn. *) and Declarations to defend and protect those that appeared and acted in their Service) do herewith humbly present to your Excellency the annexed Representation of our Desires, which we humbly beseech your Excellency to recommend, or represent in our Behalfs, to the Parliament.

"And your Petitioners shall ever honour and pray for your Excellency, &c.

Representation from them, desiring an Act of Indemnity for their Actions in this War;—for their Arrears to be paid;—for a Provision for the Widows and Maimed, &c.

"The humble Representation of the Desires of the Officers and Soldiers of the Army under the Command of his Excellency Sir Thomas Fairefax, presented first to his Excellency, to be by him represented to the Parliament.

"1. Whereas the Necessity and Exigency of this War hath put us upon many Actions which the Law would not warrant, nor we have acted in a Time of settled Peace; we humbly desire that, before our Disbanding; a full and sufficient Provision may be made, by Ordinance of Parliament, to which the Royal Assent may be desired, for our Indemnity and Security in all such Cases.

"2. That Auditors or Commissioners may be speedily appointed, and authorized to repair to the Head Quarters of this Army, to audit and state our Accompts, as well for all former Service, as for the Service in this Army; and that, before the Disbanding of this Army, Satisfaction may be given to the Petitioners for their Arrears, that so the Charge, Trouble, Loss of Time, (fn. *) we must otherwise necessarily undergo in Attendance for the obtaining of them, may be prevented; we having had Experience that many have been reduced to miserable Extremity, even almost starved, for Want of Relief by their tedious Attendance; and that no Officer may be charged with any Thing in his Accompt that does not particularly concern himself.

"3. That those who have voluntarily served the Parliament in the late Wars may not hereafter be compelled, by Press or otherwise, to serve as Soldiers out of this Kingdom; nor those who have served as Horsemen may be compelled by Presses to serve as Foot in any future Case.

"4. That such in this Army as have lost their Limbs, and the Wives and Children of such as have been slain in the Service, and such Officers and Soldiers as have sustained Losses, or have been prejudiced in their Estates by adhering to the Parliament, or in their Persons by Sickness or Imprisonment, under the Enemy, may have such Allowance and Satisfaction as may be agreeable to Justice or Equity.

"5. That, till the Army be disbanded as aforesaid, some Course may be taken for the Supply thereof with Monies, whereby we may be enabled (fn. †) to discharge our Quarters, that so we may not for necessary Food be beholding to the Parliament's Enemies, burthensome to their Friends, or oppressive to the Countries, whose Preservation we have always endeavoured, and in whose Happiness we shall still rejoice."

Informations concerning Endeavours to prevent Soldiers from serving in Ireland, and to raise a Mutiny for their Arrears.

"This Information following was delivered by Mr. Richard Coleman to the Commissioners, 22 April. 1647.

"Mr. Richard Coleman, of Duckford, testified, That, Two or Three Soldiers being speaking together, he heard them say, "That Colonel Lilburne had sent his Officers under-hand, to dissuade them from going to Ireland; assuring them, That they should be better provided for in England; and that he, the said Colonel Lilburne, was to have a Regiment continued in England." This was spoken at Hinckston, at the Rendezvous, the 20th of April, 1647.

"Richard Coleman."

"Copy of Lieutenant Colonel Kempson's Letter to the Earl of Warwick, received at Saffron Walden, 21 April. 1647.

"SIR,

"I have endeavoured the best I can to gain the Regiment for Ireland; but there hath been so much under-hand Dealing with the Soldiers, that I have gained as yet but Five Hundred and Twenty; but am in Hopes of more of them. I have given Order for all my Officers to meet this Day, to communicate their several Intelligence concerning the Soldiers Dis couragements, which I shall with all Expedition endeavour to present to your Honours, to whom I shall ever study to approve myself to be

"Your Honour's

"Most humble and faithful Servant,

From Mr. Comans's House in Duxford, this 21 April. 1647.

"Nich. Kempson.

"On the other Side, I have sent your Honours an Information which I took this Morning.

"This Lieutenant, the Bearer hereof, hath endeavoured to promote this Service, although he cannot go himself."

"Copy of Ensign Rose's Information endorsed upon the Back of Colonel Kempson's Letter last mentioned.

"April 18th, 1647.

"An Information of

"Ensign Rose, marching into St. Edmondsbury, upon Saturday last, with his Captain's Company, to quarter there; when his Company was drawn up, one Mr. Philps and another of Lieutenant General Cromwell's own Troop came to the said Ensign, and desired him not to dismiss his Company until he had spoke with him and some other Gentlemen that were above in a Chamber, at the Sign of The Bushell; who asked the said Ensign, "How the Foot stood affected to the Horse, and whether they would join with them to stand for their Arrears; and that they heard there was Two Regiments of Horse voted for Ireland, whereof Colonel Whalley's was One; and that they were sending to them both, to stand out for their Arrears, and they would join with them; and that the Country had paid it, and there was no Reason but they should have it before they were disbanded; and that they were renewing the old Petition, and drawing up a Declaration and a Remonstrance to send to the Parliament:" And that Yesterday, as he was marching to the Rendezvous of our Regiment, he met with divers Horse going towards New Markett, who cried out to our Foot, "Fellow Soldiers, now stand all for your Arrears."

"James Rose, Ensign.

"The Information of James Rose, Ensign to Captain George Weldon."

"Copy of an Information given to the Commissioners at Saffron Walden, 20 April, 1647, concerning Major Sanders, in Colonel Hamond's Regiment.

"John Holdsworth, Serjeant of Major Sanders' Company, in the Regiment of Colonel Robert Hamond, informed the Commissioners appointed by Parliament, this 20th of April, 1647, That Yesterday William Ewer, Ensign to the Lieutenant Colonel of that Regiment, coming to the said Major, to desire Three Weeks Pay for the Soldiers, the Major demanded of the said Ensign, "Whether he were for Ireland?" And being answered, "That he would come this Day, to give his Name to the Commissioners;" the said Major replied, "That it was rashly done of him, to put in his Name before he had consulted with his Field Officers and Parents;" which he spake in the Presence and Hearing of the Informant, and of John Toggell Lieutenant of Captain Boyce's Company in the said Regiment: And he further saith, That, at the same Time, in the Presence and Hearing of this Informant, the said Major asking the said Lieutenant Toggell "Whether he was for Ireland?" and he answering "That he was willing to go along with Captain O Hara;" the said Major replied, "It is a good War: But mark my Words; all godly Men, and those that carry themselves civilly, shall be put out of their Places after they come into Ireland, and other Men put in their Room." And he further faith, That this Morning, being with the said Major, together with John Thompson and Thomas Wood Lieutenant and Ensign to the said Major, the Informant heard the said Major tell the said Lieutenant Thompson, upon his declaring that he would go for Ireland, That the whole Bulk of the Army stays, and none of the godly Party will go." To which the said Lieutenant replying, "That he thought as godly Men went as any staid, though they differ in Opinion;" the Major answered, "That he was mistaken." And he further informed, That the said Major charged the said Lieutenant Thompson with speaking peremptorily, in saying, "That he would complain to the Commissioners of such Field Officers as discountenance the Business of Ireland;" and that, upon the said Major's enquiring what Officers and Soldiers of his went to Ireland, being certified by the Informant that several of his Officers and the greatest Part of the Company would go, he answered, "That he would not give his Company so away:" To which the Lieutenant replied, "That he would not take it as a Gift from him." And in Testimony that these or Words to the same Effect were spoken by the said Major Sanders, I have hereunto set my Hand.

"John Holdsworth."

Information concerning a Pamphlet, called, A new found Stratagem framed in the Old Forge of Machiavilism.

"Copy of a Letter directed to the Earl of Warwick, and delivered by Mr. Willett himself, 20th April, 1647.

"May it please your Lordship,

"Captain Style, a Captain in Colonel Lambert's Regiment, now quartering at Greate Chissull, in the County of Essex, on the 16th Day of April, sent, by Roger Crauft, his Serjeant, a Pamphlet to me James Willett, Rector of Little Chissull, intituled, "A new-found Stratagem framed in the Old Forge of Machivilisme, and put upon the Inhabitants of Essex," together with another of the same Pamphlets to my Neighbour Colonel Ayloff, which Books he shewed me at the Time when he delivered to me the same Book. I asked this Serjeant Crauft, and his Partner James Mason being then in his Company, "Whether the said Captain did command him to deliver it into my Hand?" He told me, "That if his Captain had not by special Command sent it to me, he would not have delivered it." When I had read it, he said, "He was sorry that he had delivered it to me, because he perceived that the Book did contain Matters of dangerous Consequence; but he durst not disobey the Command of his Captain." I told the Serjeant, "That his Captain was not very wise in sending and dispersing such a Book; for, if he could not nominate the Author, he should be responsible for what was contained therein." This I made bold to make known to your good Lordship, that such Course may be taken for the preventing such dangerous Books as your Lordship in your Wisdom may think meet.

"Your Lordship's

April 20th, 1647.

"Most obedient and humble Servant,

"James Willett.

"To the Right Honourable Robert Earl of Warwick, his Noble Lord, present this, I pray."

Order for the Quarter Sessions in Bucks to be held at Aylsbury.

Whereas the Lords in Parliament assembled have been informed of the Order annexed, whereby it is ordered, That the Yearly Quarter Sessions of the Peace in the County of Buckingham shall from thenceforth be kept and holden at Aylisbury, as by the said Order appears; and whereas the Clerk of the Peace of the said County hath sent out a Warrant, under the Teste of the Custos Rotulorum of the said County, to the Sheriff, to summon the next Sessions to be kept at Aylisbury aforesaid; and whereas an Appointment hath been made, by some Justices of that County, to have the next Sessions kept at Buckingham: Now the said Lords in Parliament assembled, taking into Consideration the Premises, to prevent the Prejudice, Distractions, and several other Inconveniences, which may arise in the said County, by reason of the said contrary Appointments, do Declare, That the next Quarter Sessions be kept at Aylisbury aforesaid; and all Persons and Officers that are to attend there are to take Notice hereof, and to give Obedience hereunto at their Perils.

Order of the Justices of that County, to the same Effect.

"Ad generalem Sessionem Pacis tent. apud Alisburie, in Com. prædicto, Die Jovis prox. post Festum Sancti Michal's Arch. Sancti, Primo Die Octobris, Anno Regni Domini Caroli Quinto, coram Simon. Bennett Baronet. Francisco Goodwin Milite, Willielmo Fleetwood Mil. Fleetwood Dormer Mil. Francisco Clerke Mil. Tymoth. Tyrrill Mil. Thom. Tyrringham Mil. Rob'to Lovett Mil. Thom. Sanders Mil. & Tho. Lane Ar. Custodes Pacis, &c. nec non Justic. &c.

"Whereas it was ordered, at the last General Sessions of the Peace holden for this County, in open Court, by the Consent and Direction of all the King's Majesty's Justices appearing there that Day, That the General Quarter Sessions of the Peace to be holden for this County, upon the next Thursday after the Feast of St. Michaell the Archangell next, should be holden at Alisbury; and also that from henceforth all the several Four Quarter Sessions of the Peace to be Yearly kept at Aylisbury, until the Right Honourable the Earl of Bridgwater, now Custos Rotulorum of this County, should take some further Order therein; since which Time, the most Part of His Majesty's Justices of Peace now resident in this County, by special Warrant under their Hands, dated the 23th Day of July now last past, and now remaining upon Record in this Court, have approved, ratified, and confirmed, the said Order: It is thereupon this present Day in full Court Ordered and Decreed, That all the said Yearly Quarter Sessions of the Peace shall from henceforth continually be holden at Aylisbury; any former Order to the contrary thereof in any Wise notwithstanding.

"Vera Copia.
Ex'r per T. Perkins."

Adjourn.

House adjourned till 9a cras.

Footnotes

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