DIE Jovis, 17 die Junii.
PRAYERS, by Mr. Calamy.
Domini præsentes fuerunt:
Comes Manchester, Speaker.
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Letter from the Scots Commissioners.
The Speaker acquainted this House with a Letter
which was sent to him from the Scotch Commissioners,
dated the 16 of June Instant; which was read.
(Here enter it.)
L. Lauderdail, a Pass to the King.
Ordered, That the Lauderdaill shall have a
Pass, to go to the King.
Message from the H. C. with a Vote for a Month's Pay for Sir T. Fairfax's Army:
A Message was brought from the House of Commons,
by Sir John D'anvers Knight, &c.; who brought up
several Votes, wherein they desire their Lordships Concurrence:
1. For a Month's Pay for the Army under the Command of Sir Thomas Fairefax. (Here enter it.)
Agreed to, upon the Question.
Protest against it.
Memorandum, That these Lords following, having
Leave of the House, entered their Dissents to the aforesaid Question.
"Comes Suffolke.
Comes Stamford.
Ds. Maynard."
And with more Votes.
The rest of the Votes were read, and Agreed to.
(Here enter them.)
The Answer returned was:
Answer.
That this House agrees to all the Votes now brought
up.
Messenger attends from the King:
The Gentleman Usher acquainted the Speaker, "That
there was a Gentleman at Door, that had something
to say to their Lordships from the King."
The Speaker making it known to the House, the
House commanded he should be called in; which accordingly he was.
And having delivered what he had in Command from
His Majesty, he withdrew.
Thanked, and to put his Message in Writing.
And the House Ordered him to be called in again;
and to have Thanks given him; and desire him to put
down in Writing under his Hand, what he now delivered.
Sir Wm. Russell & al. and Lenthall & al.
Upon reading the Petition of Sir Wm. Russell Knight,
Wm. Geere, John Wood, and others, "That whereas this
House did order, to give their Opinions in Writing,
whether a Prohibition did lie in the Cause between
the Petitioners and Marston and Lenthall, &c.; and
the Judges having delivered their Opinions accordingly, That a Prohibition did lie in the Case: Therefore desired to leave the Judges free; and to give
Leave to the Petitioners to move in due Course of
Law:"
It is Ordered, That this House leaves it free to the
Judges, to do what in Law they think fit to be done in
this Cause.
Letter from the Scots Commissioners.
Another Letter sent from the Scotch Commissioners,
concerning the Scotch Army in Ulster, was read, and
Ordered to be sent to the House of Commons.
(Here enter it.)
Message to the H. C. with this and the former One; and for L. Lauderdail to have a Pass to the King.
A Message was sent to the House of Commons, by
Dr. Aylett and Mr. Hakewill:
To desire their Concurrence in a Pass, (fn. *) for the Lord
Lauderdaill, to go to the King.
2. To communicate to them the Letter from the Scotch
Commissioners, concerning the Scotch Army in Ulster.
Lady Wenman, a Pass.
Ordered, That the Lady Wenman shall have a Pass,
for herself and her Company, to go into the Country,
with a Coach and Horses, and Saddle Horses.
Lady Mountague's Privilege, in Forbench's Suit against her.
The House was informed, "That a Letter was issued
out of the Chancery, for the Lady Viscountess
Mountague, for her to appear, at the Suit of Richard
Forbench; and she desires to have the Benefit of her
Privilege as a Peeress of this Kingdom:"
Which this House granted to her, and allowed the
same.
Message from the City of London, about their Committee going to Sir T. Fairfax; and with a Relation of their Proceedings.
The House being informed, by the Gentleman Usher,
"That some Aldermen and others were at the Door,
to deliver a Message from the City of London:"
And being called in;
Alderman Foulkes gave an Account of their going to
the General, with the Letter from the City of London;
and of the Answer of the General to it, and the Votes
of the Lord Mayor and Common Council of the City of
London thereupon.
And several Papers were delivered in by Alderman
Foulkes; which were publicly read, as follow.
(Here enter them.)
The said Messengers being withdrawn;
Answer to them.
The House took into Consideration, what Answer to
return to the Lord Mayor, Aldermen, and Common
Council, of the City of London.
And the House was adjourned into a Committee of
the whole House, to debate the Business.
The House being resumed; and the Speaker read the
Answer in Writing.
And the Question being put, "Whether to agree
to the Words now read; without Addition of
those other Words mentioned?"
It was Resolved in the Affirmative.
Then the Messengers were called in again; and the
Speaker read this Answer to them as follows; (videlicet,)
"That the Lords return you Thanks for the Expressions of your good Affections, and for your Respect in communicating these Papers unto them: And
they have commanded me to let you know, that the
Orders you mention are already annulled and made
void, by Order of both Houses of Parliament."
Message from the H. C. with a Vote for the Army to remove further from London;
A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Sir Walter Erle;
To communicate to their Lordships a Vote, wherein
they desire their Lordships Cancurrence:
1. That the Army under the Command of Sir Thomas Fairefax be, and are hereby, required to remove
Forty Miles from London. (Here enter it.)
Agreed to.
and a Letter to Sir T. Fairfax.
2. A Letter to the General, to put into Execution
the aforesaid Vote. (Here enter it.)
Agreed to.
The Answer returned was:
Answer.
That this House agrees to the Vote and the Letter
now read.
Message from the King:
Next, was read the Paper containing what Message
was sent from the King, to the House, by Mr. Reymes;
which he delivered this Day, by Word of Mouth, at
this Bar, and subscribed with his own Hand.
(Here enter it.)
To be printed.
The Question being put, "Whether to have this
Paper delivered in by Mr. Rymes under his
own Hand to be printed ?"
It was Resolved in the Affirmative.
Lock to be instituted to Shalfleet.
Ordered, &c. That Doctor Aylett shall give Institution unto James Lock Clerk; unto the Vicarage of
Shalflett, alias Shalsfleete, in Com. South'ton, void by the
Cession of the last Incumbent, salvo Jure cujuscunque;
he taking the National League and Covenant, and producing his Presentation thereunto under the Great Seal
of England.
(fn. *) "A Narration of several Passages betwixt His
Majesty and Master B. Reymes, at Newmarket,
concerning the Army; communicated to the
Committee of the Militia of London, and to
the Right Honourable the House of Peers,
upon Thursday the Seventeenth of June,
1647.
Mr. Reymes's Narration of what passed between the King and him, in Presence of the Commissioners, concerning the Army forcing Him from Holdenby; —His good Intentions towards the Parliament, &c.
"In Obedience to this Right Honourable House their
Command, I shall here give an Account of my Admission into His Majesty's Presence, and Commission
of delivering this Message to the Militia of London,
who have thought fit it should be communicated to
both Houses of Parliament.
"For the First, Partly my Occasions, partly my
Desire of seeing His Majesty, drew me to Sir William
Russel's, where He was then playing at Bowls with
some of the Commissioners. Among the rest, Major General Browne, espying me, prossered me the
Honour of His Majesty's Hand, which I readily accepted of, so it might be without Inconvenience; and
coming near His Royal Majesty, He was graciously
pleased to grant me that Favour; withal asking my
Name, and something else of Major General Browne
which I heard not. But he soon after came to me,
and desired my Attendance at Court; where, at my
Entrance, I was received by him, according to his
Promise, and carried into the Presence Room, where he
acquainted me with several Passages betwixt His Majesty, the General, Lieutenant General, and Colonel
Whaley, whom the King had that Day: struck, for
being so presumptuous as to listen while His Majesty was in Conference with One whom they suspected to be come from London: From this he fell to
a Relation of His Majesty's Averseness and Unwillingness to comply at all with the Army's Proceedings; saying; "That all their Actions, for aught He
saw, were both inequitable in themselves, and disproportionable to their Pretences:" To this the Major General added, "That it did highly concern both
the Parliament and City, to be careful of their
Safeties; he being an Ear-witness daily of their
Threats, and how much they are animated with the
Hopes of Spoil, and enraged with Hatred to the
Parliament."
"This he desired me to deliver, and so led me into
the Privy-chamber; and His Majesty presently came
out of his Bed-chamber. He came towards me, who
was standing with the Commissioners. Then Major
General Browne anticipated His Majesty's Discourse,
by an humble Entreaty, "That He would be pleased
to confirm the Relation he had given me of His Majesty's Unwillingness to come from Holdenby, and
how much against His Will He staid here." In Answer to which, His Majesty, clapping His Hand on
His Breast, said, "Upon My Life, I came against
My Will; which, He told me, I might well conjecture myself, by the Relation He was pleased to afford
me of His being taken from Holdenby: But (said He)
rather than to be carried by Neck and Heels (that I
may use His own Expression), I went along: Nor am
I so in Love with their Proceedings that I should be
willing to continue here, for I find Myself an absolute Prisoner. As concerning My Refusal of returning to Holdenby, which by some of My Subjects may
be misunderstood, for all the Reason I had was, That I
chose golden Fetters and a lightsome Room before a
dark Dungeon; for I conceive this to be the better
Air, knowing that My Restraint there should not be
less than here." Then, appealing to the Commissioners, He said, "Have I not told the General himself
and others, That I admired by what Authority he
durst thus resist Him and His Parliament." To which
he answered, "There was Necessity." He told
them, "They did more than e'er the King, though
in the Height of His Power, durst, to inforce Justice,
either in Criminal or Civil Affairs: Indeed I have
many Times hastened it; but never inforced it, as
they have done, in saying, "Give us Justice, or—."
Yet, for My Part (proceeded His Majesty), I know
not what they do or intend, but what I hear from
these Gentlemen, pointing to the Commissioners; for
they have not sent legally to Me since My Coming:
Therefore tell all those whom you think fit Communicants of this Business, that I desire nothing more
passionately than to be with My Parliament."
"After this, I assumed the Boldness to tell His Majesty, "That I thought Him then politically absent,
when His Affection, thought not His Person, was
alienated from them." To which He answered, "It
was very right." Next, I told him, "I thought it
would be no small Comfort to those whom He was
pleased to make Partakers of this His Intention, that
His Majesty's Propension and Inclination towards
them was so great;" which He bid me "assure them,
whatsoever other illusive Persuasion would possess
them to the contrary; and moreover, That if He
were at the Head of their Army, He would declare
and protect against all their Proceedings; and, whatsoever they heard to the contrary, desired them not
to believe, no, though under His Hand, unless they
spake with One who had it from His own Mouth."
"Last of all, at my Demand of some Letter, One
of the Commissioners, Major General Browne, answered, "That that was not so safe; and this would be
as effectual."
"This is all my Memory supplies me withal. The
Incompactedness of this Narration shall, I hope, obtain your Honours Pardons; being penned without
the least Premeditation, and without affecting the
least methodical Stile; only in Obedience to your
Honours Commands, that I might testify myself to
be
"Your Lordships
Most devoted Servant,
B. Reymes.
"Die Jovis, 17 Junii, 1647.
"Ordered, by the Lords assembled in Parliament,
That this Narration be forthwith printed and published.
"Jo. Brown,
Cler. Parliamentorum."
Paper from the Scots Commissioners, that One of them may attend the King, to learn the Circumstances of His being removed from Holdenby.
"For the Right Honorable the Speaker of the
House of Peeres pro Tempore.
"Right Honnorable,
"Understanding His Majesty was carried away from
Holdenby without the Authority of the Houses or His
owne Consent, wee delivered in a Paper upon the
5th of this Instant, wherein wee expressed our Sense
of that violent Act, and desired He might bee
brought to some of His Houses neerer London: And
now haveing seene the Votes of both Houses for
bringing His Majesty to Richmond, whereby it appeares they gave noe Warrant to remove Him from
Holdenby; to the End wee may be able to give a
cleere Account of His present Condition to the
Kingdome of Scotland, wee have resolved that some
of our Number shall for this Purpose repaire to His
Majesty at Newmarkett, or where He shal be; and,
in this Tyme of Jealousy and Distraction, have
thought fitt to acquaint the Honnorable Houses therewith, that such as are to goe may have their Passe.
And soe wee rest
Worcester House, the 16th June, 1647.
"Your Lordship's
Humble Servants,
Lauderdaill.
Charles Erskine.
Hew Kennedy.
Ro. Barclay."
Another, for Supplies for their Army in Ulster, or that they may be disbanded.
For the Right Honorable the Speaker of the
House of Peeres pro Tempore; to be comunicated to both Houses of Parliament.
"Right Honnorable,
"For these Twelve Moneths past some have attended
here from the Scottish Army in Ireland, earnestly
solliciting that either they might be supplyed with
Moneys and Provisions whereby to carry on the Service wherein they are imployed; or otherwise that
they might receive Sattisfaction, and be dismissed.
The Prejudices and Dangers in delaying to give an
Answere to soe just Desires have bin likewise represented. And now these who were sent hither to the
Parliament from that Army haveinge noe Hope to
receive an Answere, and not being able to stay any
longer in Expectation thereof, wee have thought
fitt to acquaint the Honorable Houses therewith,
that wee may be free of any Inconveniences or
Evills that may followe. And soe wee rest
Worcester House, the 17th Day of June, 1647.
"Your Lordship's
Most humble Servaunts,
Lauderdaill.
Charles Erskine.
Hew Kennedy.
Ro. Barclay."
Petition from that Army, to the same Effect.
"Right Honnorable,
"After our Losse at Benbourb, wee sent Captain
Drumond to your Lordships, sheweing the Extremityes wherein both Army and Country did stand; expecting your Lordships would take them soe into your
Considerations, as wee might have bin inabled to have
done your Lordships some considerable Service before
this: But, with sorrowfull Mynds, wee finde your
Lordships greater Affaires have hindred any Comfort
or Helpe to have issued unto us to this Day. Wherefore, seeing your Lordships Commissioners, when
they were here, spoke much concerninge your Lordships Resolution to sattisfy and dismisse this Army,
the Season drawing on, wee resolved to send this
Bearer Colonell Monro unto your Lordships, who will
shew our Mynds and Willingnes to receive Sattisfaction, and leave this Service, or our Desires to be enabled to goe forward in the Service, as your Lordships
shall finde it most expedient. Wee humbly intreate,
and are hopefull, your Lordships will thinke upon
those Wayes whereby your owne Service may be advanced, and wee after soe much Missery (in your Lordships Service) receave that Sattisfaction, which shall
move us ever to pray for your Lordships Prosperity
and Happines, who are
Carrickfergus, 26th March, 1647.
"Your Lordships
Humble Servaunts,
H. Cochran.
Rob't Monro.
Dalyell. Gordone.
John Jonstonn.
William Cam . . . . J. Montgomery.
Wm. Stewart.
Wt . . Nstonne.
(fn. *) Bo. Kennedy.
Hamilton.
Da. Monro.
Wm. Cunyngham.
George Barclay."
Message from the Common Council, with a Narrative of what passed between their Committee and Sir T. Fairfax, &c.; and to stop all Levies of Men, &c.
"Commune Concil. tent in Camera Guild. Civitatis
London 15to
Die Junii, 1647.
"Upon Relation now made by the Committee of
this Court, of the noble and courteous Reception
and Entertainment of them, by his Excellency Sir
Thomas Fairefax and the rest of the Commanders, at
St. Albans, and of the Passages and Answers between
them concerning the Contents of the Letter sent from
this Court; and after reading of the Letter and Papers presented unto this Court from his Excellency
and Council of War, and long Debate thereupon
had: It is thought fit, and so Ordered by this
Court, That the said Committee shall To-morrow
Morning, acquaint both Houses of Parliament with
those Letters, and signify the Desire of his Excellency
and his Council of War, that this City of London
would use their Endeavours to prevent the Listing of
Soldiers under Officers in and about the Cities of
London and Westm'r, and Parts thereunto adjacent (besides the Trained Bands and usual Auxiliaries), for the
making of a new War; and that those already raised
may be forthwith discharged: And the said Committee are hereby ordered to take the Contents of the
said Letters into serious Consideration; and to prepare a Letter, to be sent from this Court, in Answer to
the same, to give Satisfaction to his Excellency and
his Council of War, that no Forces are, or shall be,
listed within the City, but their own Trained Bands and
Auxiliaries, and to signify this Court's Proceedings
herein: And the said Committee are to present unto
this Court a Draught of the said Letter, to be sent as
aforesaid.
"Michell."
Letter from Sir T. Fairfax and the Council of War, to the City, desiring they would prevent Levies of Men to oppose the Army.
"For our Honoured Friends, Alderman Warner,
Alderman Fowke, Alderman Gibbs, Alderman
Viver, and the rest of the Commissioners of
the City of London.
"Being informed that divers Soldiers are daily
listed under Officers, in and about the Cities of London and Westm'r, and Parts thereto adjacent, besides
the Trained Bands and usual Auxiliaries; we strongly
apprehend that (notwithstanding all our Desires and
Labour of Peace) the Kingdom is like to be precipitate by some Persons into a new War: Therefore (before we can answer that Part of your City's Letter
to remove Thirty Miles Distance from London) we
desire the City would use their Endeavours to prevent
all such Listings, and therein deal so effectually, as
that nothing be for future done towards such Listings,
or raising any Forces; and those already raised may
be forthwith discharged: But, if this cannot be done,
we shall be forced, by an unwilling Necessity, to apply our Endeavours to break all Designs of that Kind;
and therein we hope to receive the Concurrence of
your City; professing, we have nothing else in our
Eye, but yours, our own, and this poor Kingdom's
Good and Quiet.
"Hereof we desire to hear speedily from you, and
so from Time to Time, as oft as may be; which we
shall own as a Seal of that reciprocal Love which
the City's Letter purports to this Army, and shall
on our Part be most earnestly endeavoured to be
maintained.
June 14th, 1647.
"Signed, in the Name, and by the
Appointment, of his Excellency
Sir Thomas Fairefax, and his
Council of War.
"Jo. Rushworth, Secr.
Concordat cum Original.
Michell."
Another Letter, promising to consider of the Desire of the City, for removing further from London, as soon as they learn the Resolutions of the Parliament, concerning their Desires.
"Right Honourable and Worthy Friends,
"We are very glad our Letter from Royston, of the
Tenth of this Instant June, had so good a Reception
with you; whereof you have given us Assurance by
your Letter of the Twelfth of this Instant, and by
those Worthy Aldermen and others the Members of
your City whom you sent unto us; to whose Hands
we Yesterday returned such Answer (to that Part of
your Letter for our Removal to Thirty Miles Distance
from London) as the present Exigency of Affairs could
possibly admit: To which we add this sincere Assurance, That, so soon as we shall receive the next
Resolution from the Parliament, in relation to the
Proceedings upon the Papers now given in unto them
(whereof likewise your Commissioners have recived a
Copy from us), we shall then immediately give you
such further Answer and Satisfaction to that Particular as the Nature of those Results will permit, with
respect only had to the necessary Prosecution of those
pressing Concernments of the Kingdom comprized
in those Papers; whereunto, for the Justness and
Reasonableness of our Desires, and their Consistence
with the true Honour, just Power, and Privileges of
Parliament, the Liberty of the Subject, and the
Safety of your City and Kingdom, we do refer you.
"As to your Desires (expressed in the Instructions to
your Commissioners) of our Care for the Safety of
His Majesty's Person while amongst us, we had, upon
His First coming into our Quarters, assigned, and have
since continued, in Attendance about His Majesty, a
Guard of Two Regiments of Horse, of as faithful
Men, and under as trusty a Command, as this Army
doth afford; neither shall our future Care be wanting
in any further Provision, necessary for the Safety of
His Royal Person.
"And now we cannot but take Notice, as of the
past most free and forward Engagements of your Famous City in the same Cause which we are now desiring to see a Period to, and Accomplishment of; so
of your continued Readiness to close with us in our
just and necessary Desires to the same Ends; as also
of your present prosessed Averseness to engage in
any Thing that may tend to any further War or
Distraction in this Kingdom: For all which, we cannot but return (after our Praises to God) Thanks to
you and your City. And we assure you, that the
Sense thereof hath a deep Impression in our Spirits,
to find (as we do hitherto) the Hand of God working
all Mens Hearts to so clear and unanimous Concurrence with our own, in our Desires for the present
settling and securing the Rights, Liberties, and Peace
of the Kingdom; beyond which we have no Aims or
Ends of our own.
St. Albans, June 15th, 1647.
"Signed, in the Name, and by the
Command, of his Excellency Sir
Thomas Fairefax and the Council of
War.
"By me,
"Jo. Rushworth.
"For the Right Honourable the Lord Mayor,
Aldermen, and Common Council of the
City of London.
"Concordat cum Original.
"Michell."
Order of the Committee of Safety, for assembling Forces:
"Ordered, by the Committee of Lords and Commons, and the Committee for the Militia of the City
of London, &c. That Colonel Dalbeere, Sir Thomas
Cooke, Colonel Sanderson, Colonel Wilshire, and Colonel Meddupp, be hereby desired to bring in particular Lists of the Names and Qualities of all such
Gentlemen and Reformado Officers as they shall find
willing to engage in the Service of the Parliament,
by Ten of the Clock in the Morning of this present
Saturday.
"Dated at Guildhall, London, the 12th of June,
1647.
"Tho. Partington,
Clerk to the said Committee of the Militia.
Order for annulling it.
"Ordered, That the Order above written, dated
the 12th Instant, under the Clerk's Hand, be, as
much as in this Committee lieth, annulled.
"Dated at Guildhall, London, the 16 June, 1647.
"Tho. Partington,
Clerk to the said Committee."
Order for a Month's Pay to Sir T. Fairfax's Army.
"Ordered, by the Lords and Commons assembled
in Parliament, That One Month's Pay be forthwith
paid to the Army under the Command of Sir Thomas
Fairefax, according to their last Muster.
"Ordered, by the Lords and Commons assembled
in Parliament, That this One Month's Pay shall be
paid to the Common Soldiers, upon Accompt, as
Part of their Arrears; and to the Officers, as Part of
the Three Months Pay formerly ordered to be
paid to them, upon their disbanding, or engaging for
Ireland."
Order for a Month's Pay to Col. Rosseter's Regiment.
"Ordered, by the Lords and Commons assembled
in Parliament, That the Committee of the Army do
give Warrant to the Treasurers at Wars, to pay One
Month's Pay, upon (fn. *) Accompt, to Colonel Rossetter's
Regiment, in like Manner as the Month's Pay is ordered to be paid to the Army."
Order for a Month's Pay for the Forces at Newcastle and Tynmouth.
"Ordered, by the Lords and Commons assembled
in Parliament, That the Committee of the Army do
give Warrant to the Treasurers at Wars, to pay One
Month's Pay, upon Accompt, to those Forces that are
Part of the Army, and are now at Newcastle and Tynmouth, in like Manner as the Month's Pay is ordered
to be paid to the Army."
Letter to Sir T. Fairfax, to put in Execution the following Vote, and to observe other Votes concerning the Army.
"SIR,
"The Lords and Commons, being desirous to prevent Jealousies and Misunderstandings between them
and the Army, and, as much as in them is, to preserve the Kingdom in Peace, and prevent a new War,
have passed several Votes; which they have commanded their Commissioners to communicate unto
you.
"And, to prevent the great Mischiefs that may arise
through Peoples Discontents by Scarcity of Provisions, and to the End the Parliament may have the
more free Debate upon the Matters presented to them
from the Army, the Houses do require you, that,
according to their former Order, you would speedily
remove the Army Forty Miles Distance from London.
And they require you likewise to take Order, that no
Forces be raised or admitted into the Army, nor any
Forces placed in any Fort, or displaced from any Garrison, which they have made, without their Approbation.
"The Houses do likewise expect from you a speedy
and positive Account of what you have done upon
the Letter and Votes you have received, for the Removal of the King's Person to Richmond.
"So we rest.
"Your affectionate Friends."
The Army to remove Forty Miles from London.
"Ordered, by the Lords and Commons in Parliament, That the Army under the Command of Sir
Thomas Fairefax be, and are hereby, required to remove Forty Miles from London."
Adjourn.
House adjourned till 9a cras.