DIE Martis, 22 die Junii.
PRAYERS, by Mr. Sallawey.
Domini præsentes fuerunt:
Comes Manchester, Speaker.
L. Viscount Say & Seale.
Answer from the H. C.
Sir Edward Leech and Mr. Page return with this Answer from the House of Commons:
That they agree in sending the Letter to the King,
and to the Packet-boat for Ireland. (Here enter it.)
De Beauvoir to be Bailiff of Guernsey.
Upon reading the Petition of Peter De Beauvoir;
shewing, "That the Earl of Warwicke, taking Notice
of the Sufferings and Fidelity of the Petitioner to
the Parliament, was pleased, about Three Years since,
to make him Bailiff of the Island of Guarnsey; and
some endeavouring to hinder him in the Execution
of his Place, therefore desires their Lordships would
please to confer the said Place of Bailiff upon the
It is Ordered, That this House approves of the
Petitioner, to be Bailiff of the said Isle of Guernsey,
during the Pleasure of both Houses of Parliament; and
that the Concurrence of the House of Commons to be
Letters from the Commissioners with the Army, and Sir T. Fairfax.
Next Two Letters from the Earl of Nottingham, from
St. Albans, dated 21th June, with other Papers inclosed,
were read. (Here enter it.)
A Letter from Sir Thomas Fairefax, dated the 21th
June, 1647, from St. Albans, was read.
(Here enter it.)
Letter to Sir T. Fairfax.
Ordered, That a Letter be written to Sir Thomas
Fairfax, in the Name of both Houses, according to the
Sense of the House; and the Speaker was commanded
to draw the same, and to present it to the House:
Which accordingly was done, and read, and approved
of, and Ordered to be sent to the House of Commons
for their Concurrence.
L. Herbert, Leave to go beyond Sea.
Ordered, That the Lord Herbert of Cherbery hath
Leave to go beyond the Seas, for Recovery of his Health,
according to former Leave granted him by this House.
Letter to the Commissioners with the Army.
A Letter to be sent to the Earl of Nottingham, was
read, and Agreed to.
Langham and Limbrey.
Ordered, That, on Thursday next, this House will
hear the Judges several Arguments and Reasons upon
which they grounded their Opinions, in the Case between Alderman Langham, &c. and Captain Lymbery,
&c. In the mean Time, all Proceedings in this Business
Message to the H.C. with the Letter to Sir T. Fairfax;
A Message was sent to the House of Commons, by Sir
Edward Leech and Mr. Page:
1. To communicate the Letter to them, to be sent to
Sir Thomas Fairefax; and to desire their Concurrence
and with the Ordinance to raise Money in the Isle of Wight.
2. To deliver to them the Ordinance concerning the
Isle of Wight, with the Addition of the Earl of Pembrooke's Name.
Letter from the Commissioners with the Army, that the Money is arrived for it; but that they cannot get an Answer from Sir T. Fairfax, about moving his Quarters; and that Part of Col. Fortescue's Regiment are gone to the Army, who say, they were desired to engage against it.
"For the Right Honourable Edward Earl of
Manchester, Speaker of the House of Peers.
"May it please your Lordship,
"In Discharge of my Duty, I think fit to acquaint
your Lordship, that, several Times since I received
your last of the 15th Instant, we have very earnestly
solicited the General for Answer to the Command of
both Houses, touching removing Quarter; which the
General hath often given us Hope we should long
ere this have received: But it is not as yet come,
which seems strange to us.
"The General told us Yesterday, That Six Companies of Colonel Fortescue's Regiment that were
designed for Ireland were come up very near the
Army, and desired to be re-admitted; and that they
pretended to be discontented, for that they are drawn
this Way to engage against the Army.
"On Saturday Night late, the Month's Pay for the
Army came hither, and the Committee from the
Common Council of London, who presented a Letter
to the General from the City. The Money is this
Day paying out to the Army. We shall still earnestly
press for an Answer, according to your Command;
which, so soon as we shall receive, shall be immediately presented, from.
St. Albones, 21th of June, 1647.
Letter from them, with Sir T. Fairfax's Answer about the King's Removal.
"For the Right Honourable Edward Earl of
Manchester, Speaker of the House of Peers.
"May it please your Lordship,
"In Answer to the several Matters contained in your
Votes and Letter of the 17th Instant, which I have
often pressed; this Night, about Nine of the Clock
the General sent us a Letter, with the Copy of a
Letter to yourself inclosed, in reference to the Affairs; the Copies of both which I herewith present
to (fn. *) your Lordship: And because, in our Judgements,
the Answer is not full or certain, we have by Letter
signified our Sense thereof to the General, and prayed
him to take your Votes into further Consideration; a
Copy of which Letter of ours is also herewith presented to your Lordship, from,
St. Albones, the 21th of June, 1647.
past Twelve at Night.
Sir T. Fairfax's Letter to the Commissioners, inclosing it.
"My Lords and Gentlemen,
"I have returned an Answer to both Houses of Parliament, to theirs of the 17th of June, of which I
send you here inclosed a Copy. As to those Two Particulars, of admitting new Forces into the Army, or
placing or displacing of any Forces in any Fort or
Garrison without the Approbation of the Houses,
there is nothing of that Nature done by me; and I
shall be careful, to the utmost of my Power, that
nothing in that be done to the Prejudice or Disservice
of the Kingdom. I remain
June 21, 1647.
Humble (fn. *) Servant,
"For the Right Honourable the Lords and
Commons Commissioners of Parliament
at St. Albones. These."
Letter from the Commissioners, to Sir T. Fairfax, pressing the Removal of the Army further from London, and for an Answer about the King's being moved to Richmond.
"We have perused your Letter, sent to us this
Night by Scout-master General Watson, with the Copy
of yours inclosed to the Houses of Parliament; and
having thereupon considered the Votes of both
Houses, and their Directions to us, we held it our
Duty, in Discharge of the Trust committed to us, to
let your Excellency know, That the Order of both
Houses for the Removal of the Army Forty Miles
from London is positive; and we are commanded to
be very earnest in pressing your Excellency therein;
as also to desire you to give the Parliament a speedy
and positive Account of what you have done upon
their Letter and Votes sent you, for Removal of the
King's Person to Richmond; to both which Points we
find your Answer, by the Copy sent us, to be defective and uncertain; and therefore do again very
earnestly desire your Excellency to take the same into
Consideration, and give a more full and certain
Answer to what is expected from you by the Houses
in these Particulars. We rest
June 21th, 1647.
Sir T. Fairfax's Answer, about the King's going to Richmond, and the Removal of the Army further from London.
(fn. †) "For the Right Honourable the Earl of Manchester, Speaker of the House of Peers, pro
"By your Lordship's of the 17th of June Instant, I
am commanded to render the Charge of His Majesty
to your Commissioners now attending His Majesty at
Newmarkett: To which I humbly answer, That the
Commissioners have attended the Person of the King
ever since His coming from Holdenby, and have been
desired by me to continue the Discharge of their
Trust which was committed to them by the Parliament; which that it might be the better performed,
I gave them a Guard of Two Regiments of Horse,
who do at this Time attend the King and Commissioners at Newmarkett. I humbly conceive I have nothing
else to answer to as touching this Matter. As to our
Removal to further Distance from London, we intreat
we may receive an Answer to the Desires of the
Army in the Papers last we sent you; conceiving we
shall neither give Satisfaction to the Kingdom nor to
the Army, who are in Expectation of some Effect
thereupon. There is also Information of daily underhand Preparations of Forces, and the keeping-up
of those that are raised publicly avowed, together
with other Grounds of Jealousy, occasioned by the
Endeavours of some to bring in Foreign Forces, and
by sending divers Officers into several Parts of the
Kingdom, to possess Places of Strength, and to raise
Men; which, to our Apprehensions, tend to the raising of a new War; whereof I thought fit to give
you this Account. I remain
June 21th, 1647, St. Albons.
Most humble Servant,
Letter to the Commissioners with the Army, about the Report concerning some of Col. Fortescue's Regiment.
"The Lords have received your Letter of the 21th
Instant; and have commanded me to let you know,
that they do well approve your earnest pressing the
General's Answer to the Votes concerning his removing of his Quarters. And as to the Report of
the Soldiers of Colonel Fortescue's Regiment, that
they were drawn this Way to engage against the
Army, they do desire you to enquire of the Grounds
of that Misinformation; for they know not any Cause
why such a Report should be raised.
"This is all I have in Command as
Letter to the King, desiring He will consent to remove to Richmond.
"May it please Your Majesty,
"Your Majesty's loyal Subjects, the Lords and Commons assembled in Parliament, out of the earnest
Desire that the Peace of Your Three Kingdoms may
have a speedy Settlement, have passed these Votes
for Your Majesty's coming to Your House at Richmond, that then a joint Application may be made
unto Your Majesty, from Your Parliaments of England and Scotland, to that Purpose. It is our humble
Desire, that Your Majesty will be pleased to come
accordingly; and our Prayers shall be to the Great
God, that He will bless all Endeavours that shall
tend to the preventing of further Distractions in
Church and State, and to the procuring of a safe
and well-grounded Peace.
Loyal Subjects and humble Servants.
For His Majesty."
Letter to Sir T. Fairfax, that there are no Men raising to act against the Army, nor any Preparations of that Sort.
"The Lords and Commons assembled in Parliament
have received your Letter of the 21th Instant, by
which you give them an Account of several Informations that are given unto the Army, "That there
are daily underhand Preparations made of Forces, and
that there is a public Avowment of keeping Forces
already raised." They did, by their former Letters
unto you, affirm the contrary. They do again assure
you, that there are no Forces either prepared or
avowed by their Authority against the Army; and
therefore they desire you to make known unto them
the Grounds you have of these Reports. They likewise disclaim any Thought in them of bringing in
Foreign Forces; and do desire you to make strict Enquiry into the Occasion of these Misinformations, that
they may be certified from what Hands they come,
that so the Authors of such Aspersions may be known
and punished. They have no Knowledge of any
Persons employed from them for the possessing of
any Places of Strength, or for the raising any Men;
and they hope there will be no Occasion to alter their
Confidence they have of the Army, in relation to
their solemn Engagements to preserve the Honour
and Privileges of Parliament, the Safety and Peace
of the Kingdom: Therefore they do fully and clearly
declare the Falseness of these Informations to you,
and do expect your Endeavours for the preventing of
any such causeless Jealousies; and in regard of the
Inconveniences that do and may come to the City of
London and the Parts near adjacent, by the Army's
being so near as now they are, they still insist upon
their former Vote, for your not Quartering of the
Army nearer than Forty Miles from London."