DIE Veneris, 9 die Julii.
PRAYERS, by Mr. Seaman.
Domini præsentes fuerunt:
Comes Manchester, Speaker.
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Comes Kent.
Comes Mulgrave.
Comes Warwicke.
Comes Sarum.
Comes Northumb.
Comes Pembrooke.
Comes Lyncolne.
Comes Stamford.
L. Viscount Say & Seale. |
Ds. North.
Ds. Grey.
Ds. Willoughby.
Ds. Dacres.
Ds. Howard.
Ds. Hunsdon.
Ds. La Warr. |
Answer from the H. C.
Dr. Heath and Mr. Hakewill return with this Answer:
That they agree to the Letter to the Commissioners
with the King.
Bushel to be freed from his Delinquency, on delivering the Isle of Lundy to Ld. Say & Seale:
The Earl of Manchester reported a Paper from the
Committee at Derby House; which was read, as followeth:
"Ordered, That it be reported to both Houses,
That, upon the Delivery up of the Isle of Lundy to
the Lord Viscount Say & Seale, or his Assigns, by
Mr. Thomas Bushell, his Delinquency may be taken
off, and all Sequestration in respect thereof, and he
restored to such Right as he or his Assigns had in the
Mines in Devonshire, Wales, or Cornwall, before these
Wars; and that the Men that were with him in the
Island, being not Men of Estate or Quality, be pardoned and freed from Delinquency and Sequestration, according to an Order agreed upon, and the
Undertaking of this Committee; where he is now
ready to submit, and to yield up the Island upon the
Terms offered by this Committee."
Ordered, That this House approves of this Report; and the Concurrence of the House of Commons
to be desired herein.
Message to the H. C. about it;
A Message was sent to the House of Commons, by
Dr. Heath and Mr. Hakewill:
1. To deliver to them the Report concerning Mr.
Thomas Bushell to surrender up the Isle of Lundy, and
to desire their Concurrence therein.
and for De Bevoyer to continue Bailiff of Guernsey.
2. To desire their Concurrence, that Peeter De Bevoyer De Granges be Bailiff of the Isle of Guernsey,
where he hath been employed for the Service of the
Parliament for the Space of Two Years last past; and to
continue during the Pleasure of both Houses.
Treaty with the Queen of Sweden:
The Earl of Manchester reported, from the Committee at Derby House, an Abstract of the Letters which
came from the Queen of Sweeden; which were read.
(Here enter the Abstract.)
And it is Ordered, That the Treaty with the Swedish Commissioner be referred to the Committee of both
Kingdoms at Derby House; and that it be referred to
the Committee for Foreign Affairs, to prepare a Letter,
for the stating the Matter of Fact (fn. *) between the Swedish Ships and the English; and the Concurrence of
the House of Commons to be desired herein.
Message to the H. C. about it.
And accordingly this was sent down, by Dr. Heath
and Mr. Hakewill.
Papers concerning the Treaty with the Army.
Next, the House caused the Papers which came
from the Commissioners with the Army to be read
again.
And it was moved, "That the Protestation and the
Covenant might be now read."
And the Question being put, "Whether the Protestation and the Covenant shall be now
read?"
It was Resolved in the Negative.
Message from the H. C. with Ordinances, and to expedite One.
A Message was brought from the House of Commons,
by Mr. Wheeler; who brought up divers Particulars,
wherein they desire their Lordships Concurrence:
1. An Ordinance for Delinquents and Malignants to
depart out of the Lines of Communication.
2. An Ordinance for Officers and Soldiers to depart
out of the Lines of Communication.
3. An Ordinance for issuing out Twenty Thousand
Pounds for the Army. (Here enter it.)
Agreed to, upon the Question.
4. To give Expedition to an Order formerly brought
up, for giving Power to the Commissioners of the Army
to gather the Arrears.
Ordinance for Delinquents, &c. to go without the Lines:
The Ordinance for Delinquents and Malignants to
depart out of the Lines of Communication, was read
Thrice.
And the Question being put, "Whether to agree
to this Ordinance, as it now came up from the
House of Commons?"
It was Resolved in the Affirmative.
(Here enter it.)
Ordered, That this Ordinance be forthwith printed
and published.
Protest against it.
Memorandum, That these Lords following, before
the putting the aforesaid Question, desired Leave to
enter their Dissents, if this Question was carried in the
Affirmative: Which being granted, they do accordingly enter their Dissents, by subscribing their Names.
"T. Lyncolne.
Suffolke.
Middlesex.
F. Willughbye.
Du North.
Hunsdon."
Ordinance for Officers and Soldiers to depart the Lines:
Next, the Ordinance was read Twice, for Officers
and Soldiers to depart out of the Lines of Communication.
And, after a Debate, a Proviso was offered, and read.
Then the said Ordinance was read the Third Time
with the Proviso.
And the Question being put, "Whether to agree
to this Ordinance, with the Addition of this
Proviso?"
It was Resolved in the Affirmative.
(Here enter it.)
Protest against it.
Memorandum, That these Lords following, before
the putting the aforesaid (fn. *) Question, desired Leave to
enter their Dissents, if the Question were carried in
the Affirmative: Which being granted, they do accordingly enter their Dissents, by subscribing their
Names.
"T. Lyncolne.
Stanfurd.
Middlesex.
Suffolke.
F. Willughbye.
Du. North.
Hunsdon."
The Answer returned to the Messengers was:
Answer to the H. C.
That this House agrees to the Ordinance for the
Twenty Thousand Pounds for the Army, and to the Ordinance for sending Delinquents and Malignants out of
Town: To all the rest, they will send an Answer by
Messengers of their own.
Letter from Sir T. Fairfax.
A Letter from Sir Thomas Fairefax, was read.
(Here enter it.)
Letter from the King to the D. of York.
A Letter was inclosed, from the King, to the Duke
of Yorke; which was delivered, by the Direction of the
House, to the Earl of Northumb. to be delivered to the
Duke of Yorke.
Message to the H. C. with the Ordinance for Officers to go without the Lines;
A Message was sent to the House of Commons, by
Dr. Heath and Mr. Hakewill:
To deliver to them the Ordinance concerning the
Officers to go out of the Lines of Communication, with
the Proviso, and to desire their Concurrence therein.
and to remind them of the One to dissolve County Committees.
2. To put them in Mind of the Ordinance for putting
down all Country Committees.
Ordered, That the Countess of Derby shall have
Leave to reside at her House at Chelsey.
"An Ordinance of the Lords and Commons assembled in Parliament, for Soldiers to depart
from the Cities of London and Westm'r, by the
15th of this Instant July, 1647.
Ordinance for Officers and Soldiers to depart the Lines of Communication.
"Whereas there hath been of late an extraordinary
Confluence and Resort of Officers, Soldiers, and other
Persons pretending themselves to have been Soldiers
of Reduced or Disbanded Forces, from several Parts
of the Kingdom, to the Cities of London and Westm'r,
some of which have assembled themselves in tumultuous Manner in several Parts of the City of
London, and near the Houses of Parliament, to the
Disturbance of the said Houses in the great Affairs
they have in Hand: For Remedy whereof, and as
One Means by the Blessing of God to prevent the
Increase and Spreading of the Plague in the said
Cities, and other Inconveniences, be it therefore
Ordained, by the Lords and Commons in Parliament
assembled, That all such Officers and Soldiers, or
other Persons aforesaid, shall, by the 15th Day of
this Instant July, 1647, depart from the said Cities
of London and Westm'r, and Lines of Communication,
not having had their usual Habitations within the
said Cities of London or Westm'r, or within the Lines
of Communication aforesaid, nor having any just and
necessary Occasion for their Abode and Continuance
there, to be allowed by the Committee of the Militia
of the City of London, or any Four of them, under
their Hands; and that the Persons aforesaid shall not
return to the said Cities of London or Westm'r, or
within the said Line of Communication, within the
Space of Two Months next after the Publication of
this present Ordinance, upon Pain of Three Months
Imprisonment, and Loss of their Arrears: And it is
further Ordained, That the said Committee of the
Militia are hereby authorized and required to see
this present Ordinance to be effectually put in Execution: And it is likewise Ordained, That, after the
said 15th Day of July aforesaid, the said Committee,
or any Four of them, shall have hereby Power and
Authority, and are hereby required, to imprison the
said Persons, according to the Tenor of this Ordinance, that shall offend against the same: And the
said Lords and Commons do Declare, That it is not
their Intention to deprive any Officer or Soldier of
their just Dues, owing unto any such Officer or Soldier from the Parliament; but that, their Accompts
being audited as is directed by several Ordinances of
Parliament, and so soon as the pressing Affairs of the
Kingdom will permit, the said Lords and Commons will
take Order to give just Satisfaction to them, or to any
other Person or Persons unto whom they shall assign
their Arrears, or any Part thereof.
"Provided, That this shall not extend to the Officers
or Soldiers of the Trained Bands, or Auxiliaries
within the said Lines of Communication, or to any
Colonel or Officer of Estate or Quality, which shall
have Occasion to stay in Town, or to such as are lately
come from the Army, and shall manifest the same to
both Houses, or to the Speakers of both Houses; and
shall have Allowance thereof accordingly, under the
Hands of the said Speakers."
Order for 20,000 l. for a Month's Pay for the Army under Sir T. Fairfax.
"Be it Ordained, and it is Ordained, by the Lords
and Commons assembled in Parliament, That James
Bunce Alderman, Richard Glyd and Lawrence Bromfeild, Treasurers at Weavers Hall, appointed by Ordinance of Parliament for the raising and receiving of
Two Hundred Thousand Pounds, for the Service of
England and Ireland, shall and do forthwith pay, unto
Sir John Wollaston Knight and the rest of the Treasurers at War, the Sum of Twenty Thousand Pounds,
to be by them issued forth, by Warrant from the
Committee for the Army, towards a Month's Pay
hereby appointed for the Army under the present
Command of Sir Thomas Fairefax; and that the Receipt or Acquittance of Sir John Wollaston Knight, together with any Two of the said Treasurers at War,
shall be a sufficient Warrant and Discharge unto the
said James Bunce, and the rest of the Treasurers
at Weavers Hall, for the said Twenty Thousand
Pounds.
"And it is further Ordained, That the Committee
for the Army are hereby authorized to give Security
to Sir John Wollaston Knight, and the rest of the
Treasurers at War, for such Part of this Month's Pay
as shall appear to the said Committee to be by them
advanced; and Power to reimburse themselves the
said Monies, with Interest (so long as they shall forbear the same), out of such Sum or Sums of Money
as shall be paid in to their Treasury for the Public
Service."
Ordinance for Delinquents and Malignants to depart the Lines of Communication.
"Whereas, by an Ordinance of Parliament, dated
the 12th Day of December last past, for the Reasons
therein expressed, it was ordered, That all Papists
whatsoever, and all Officers and Soldiers of Fortune,
and other Persons that have borne Arms against the
Parliament of England, or have adhered to or assisted
the Enemy in this late War, not being under Restraint, should, before the 18th Day of the said December last past, depart out of the Cities of London
and Westm'r, and Lines of Communication, at least
Twenty Miles distant from the said Lines; and if any
such Person should continue within the said Lines, or
the said Distance of Twenty Miles from the said
Lines, after that Time, such Person should be apprehended, imprisoned, and proceeded against as a Traitor; and that all such Persons should forbear, upon
the Penalty aforesaid, to return, or come within the
said Lines, or the said Distance of Twenty Miles,
without Licence under the Hands of the Committee
appointed for Compositions at Gouldsmiths Hall, as in
and by the said Ordinance, by and under certain Provisions and Limitations therein expressed, may appear: The Lords and Commons now assembled in
Parliament, taking Notice that great Numbers of
such Persons have, notwithstanding the said Ordinance, continued within the said Cities and Lines of
Communication, and the said Distance of Twenty
Miles, and many more have returned and resorted
thither, whereby many Inconveniences and Disturbances may ensue, if not timely prevented, do think
fit to Order and Ordain, and it is hereby Ordered
and Ordained, That the said Ordinance, and all and
every Clause, Article, and Thing, therein contained,
shall be revived, and be in full Force, from the 14th
Day of this present July, until the 14th Day of
October next, to all Intents and Purposes whatsoever;
and all Person and Persons whatsoever, mentioned or
concerned in the said recited Ordinance, are to take
Notice hereof, and to conform thereunto respectively: Provided, That nothing in this Ordinance shall
extend to such Persons as aforesaid, who, having their
Habitations within the Lines of Communication, or
within the said Space of Twenty Miles, have made
their Compositions, and paid in or secured their
Monies, or have taken the Negative Oath and Covenant."
Letter from Sir T. Fairfax, for the King to see His Children;—exculpating the Army from any Intention of treating separately with Him;—and about the D. of Richmond and His Chaplains having had Access to Him.
"For the Right Honourable Edward Earl of
Manchester, Speaker of the House of Peers
pro Tempore.
"My Lord,
"I was sent unto by the King, on Friday last, to desire the Parliament to give Way to Him to see His
Children, and that they might for that Purpose be
sent to Him. If I may be so bold to offer my Opinion, I think the Allowance of such a Thing may be
without the least Prejudice to the Kingdom, and yet
gain more upon His Majesty than denying it. And
if it be in the Prayer of every good Man, that His
Heart may be gained, the Performance of such Civilities to Him is very suitable to those Desires, and
will hear well with all Men, who (if they can imagine it to be their own Cafe) cannot but be sorry if
His Majesty's natural Affections to His Children in
so small a Thing should not be complied with. And
if any Question should be concerning the Assurance
of their Return, I shall engage for their Return
within what Time the Parliament shall limit.
"Upon this Occasion (give me Leave, I beseech
you) to take Notice of some Reports spread abroad,
as if myself and the Officers of the Army were upon
some under-hand Contract or Bargain with the King,
and from thence Occasion is taken to slander our Integrities, and endeavour a Misunderstanding betwixt
the Parliament and their Army; the Fidelity of which.
to the Parliament and Kingdom, and their Affections
to it, are the great Objects of many Mens Envy, because they see nothing so likely to settle Right and
Freedom, with Truth and Peace, to us and Posterity,
and to hinder their Designs against the same, as an
Harmony or good Accord between the Parliament
and Army, which is the Joy of good Men, and it shall
be our Study to preserve against all Designs and Designers to the contrary.
"To prevent, therefore, all Misunderstandings of
that Kind, I thought fit with all Clearness to declare
unto you, That we have done nothing, nor shall do
any Thing, which we desire to hide from you or the
World, or shall not avow to the Faces of our greatest
Adversaries.
"Our Desires concerning a just Consideration and
Settlement of the King's Rights (His Majesty first
giving His Concurrence to settle and secure the Rights
and Liberties of the Kingdom) we have already publicly declared, in our Representation and Remonstrance: Since the First of those Papers sent to the
Parliament, there have been several Officers of the
Army, upon several Occasions, sent to His Majesty;
the First, to present to Him a Copy of the Representation; and after that some others, to tender Him
a Copy of the Remonstrance: Upon both which,
the Officers sent were appointed to clear the Sense
and Intention of any Thing in either Paper whereupon His Majesty might make any Question. Since
then, there have been also some Officers at several
Times sent to His Majesty about His Remove from
Hatfeild, to dissuade Him (if possible) from Windsor,
or any Place so near London, to some Place of further Distance, answerable to what we had desired
of the Parliament. In all which Addresses to His
Majesty, we care not who knows what hath been
said (fn. *) or done; for, as we have nothing to bargain
for, or to ask, either from His Majesty or the Parliament, for Advantage to ourselves, or any particular Party or Interest of our own; so, in all those
Addresses to His Majesty, we have utterly disclaimed
and disavowed any such Thing, or any Overtures or
Thoughts tending that Way. But the only Intent
and Effect of those our Addresses hath been, to desire and endeavour His Majesty's free Concurrence
with the Parliament, for establishing and securing the
common Rights and Liberties, and settling the Peace
of the Kingdom; and to assure Him that (the Public being so provided for, with such His Majesty's
Concurrence) it is fully agreeable to our Principles,
and should be our Desire and Endeavour, that (with
and in such Settling of the Public) the Rights of
His Majesty His Royal Family should also be provided for; so as a lasting Peace and Agreement
might be settled in this Nation; and that, as we had
publicly declared for the same in general Terms,
so (if Things come to a Way of Settlement) we
should not be wanting (in our Spheres) to own that
general Desire, in any Particulars of Natural or
Civil Right to His Majesty's Person or Family,
which might not prejudice, or again endanger, the
Public; and in the mean Time, that His Majesty
should find all Personal Civilities and Respects from
us, with all reasonable Freedom, that might stand
with Safety, and with the Trust or Charge lying
upon us concerning His Person.
"You have here the utmost Sum of what hath
passed from us to His Majesty; and we could with
all Men did rightly understand (without Misrepresentation) every Particular, wherein (as we know
nothing not agreeable to Reason, Justice, Honesty,
or Conscience, so) we thought ourselves concerned
the rather to say and do (fn. †) as we have towards
His Majesty since He came within our Quarters, because of those common Prejudices suggested against
us, as if we were utter Enemies to Monarchy and all
Civil Order and Government: And for that Particular of the Duke of Richmond and the Two Chaplains lately permitted to attend His Majesty, it was
not done without much Reluctancy, because therein
we doubted we might be misunderstood by the Kingdom's best Friends. But, upon His Majesty's continuing Importunity for it, as a Thing very nearly
concerning His inward and outward Contentment,
and concerning these Persons, such as (we hoped)
would not do ill Offices to prejudice the Peace of the
Kingdom, we did give Way to it; and the Persons
(before they came) had Notice of the Permission.
And, as we then thought, so we still do think, that
to allow Him some such Company of Persons (least
dangerous) whom former Acquaintance may make
Him take Pleasure in, and the Allowance of some
such Chaplains of His own, are Things both reasonable and just; and the debarring of that Liberty
in the latter (we doubt) will but make Him more
prejudiced against other Ministers.
"In general, we humbly conceive, that, to avoid
all Harshness, and afford all kind Usage to His Majesty's Person, in Things consistent with the Peace
and Safety of the Kingdom, is the most Christian,
honourable, and prudent Way. And in all Things
(as the Representation and Remonstrance of the Army
do express) we think that tender, equitable, and
moderate Dealing, both towards His Majesty, His
Royal Family, and His late Party (so far as may
stand with Safety to the Kingdom, and Security to
our common Rights and Liberties), is the most hopeful Course to take away the Seeds of War, or future
Feuds amongst us for Postcrity, and to procure a
lasting Peace and Agreement in this now distracted
Nation: To the effecting and settling whereof (with
a secure Provision first to be made for the common
Rights and Liberties of the Kingdom, and a due
Care to preserve and propagate the Gospel of Truth
and Peace amongst us) we shall hope that neither
the Parliament nor His Majesty will be wanting; and
if God shall see it good to make us any Way instrumental thereunto, or that we may otherwise see the
same accomplished, we shall then think ourselves indeed discharged from the Public Engagements we
have been called out unto, more clearly and effectually than (before such Things were settled) we could
have thought ourselves to be, and (to demonstrate
our Clearness from seeking Self-advantages in what
we do) we shall thenceforth account it our greatest
Happiness and Honour (if God see it good) to be
disengaged and dismissed, not only from our Military
Charges, but from all other Matters of Power or
Public Employment whatsoever.
"I have, in these Things, spoke not in my own
Name alone, but in the Name (because I
find it to be the clear Sense) of the Generality, or at least of the most considerable
Part of the Army; and I am confident you
and the Kingdom will never find it otherwise. I shall leave it to your favourable
Construction; and commit all to the Goodness of God for an happy Issue. I remain
Reading, July 8, 1647.
"Your Lordship's
Most humble Servant,
"T. Fairefax."