DIE Lunæ, 22 die Novembris.
PRAYERS, by Mr. Strickland.
Domini præsentes fuerunt
Comes Manchester, Speaker.
L. Viscount Say & Seale.
Ds. La Warr.
Letter from Sir T. Fairfax and Col. Hammond.
A Letter from the General, was read.
||(Here enter them.)
|A Letter from Colonel Rob't Hamond, was read.
Lynne and Chiselden, about the Church of Dean.
Ordered, That, Thursday Sevennight, this House
will hear the Cause between Mr. Lynn and Mr. Chesilden,
concerning the Right of the Patronage of the Church
of Dene, in the County of North'ton.
Stanleys, a Pass.
Ordered, That Mr. James Stanley and Mr. Charles
Stanley shall have a Pass, with Wm. Frith. their Governor, and Thomas Poulton their Servant, to pass into
France, carrying with them Twenty Pounds for their
Answer to the Scots Commissioners Letter, pressing a Personal Treaty with the King.
The Scotts Commissioners Letter, of the 17th of this
Instant November, was again read.
And after Debate, these Lords following were appointed to draw up a Letter, in Answer to it, according to the Sense of the House upon the Debate; and
to report the same to the House:
L. Viscount Say & Seale.
Any Two; to meet presently.
The said Committee reported the Draught of a
Letter; which was read, and approved of, and (fn. *)
Message from the H. C. with a List of the King's Attendants;—to expedite the Ordinance for Tonnage and Poundage;—and to press the Scots Commissioners for an Answer to the Propositions.
A Message was brought from the House of Commons,
by Sir Walter Earle Knight, &c.
1. To present to their Lordships a List of the Persons
Names that are to be sent to attend the King, wherein
their Lordships Concurrence is desired, that so they
may be sent down.
Agreed to; and Mr. Maxwell, Mr. Maull, and Captain
Middleton, to be added.
2. To desire their Lordships to give Expedition in the
Ordinance concerning Tonnage and Poundage.
3. To desire their Lordships to give Order to their
Members that are of the Committee of both Kingdoms,
to meet this Afternoon, to press the Scotts Commissioners for a positive Answer concerning the Propositions to
be sent to the King; and they have given their Members
of that Committee (fn. *) to meet accordingly.
The Answer returned was:
That this House will take this Message into Consideration, and send an Answer by Messengers of their
Message from the Common Council, about bringing in the Arrears of the Army.
A Message was delivered to this House, by Alderman
Foulke and others, from the Common Council of the
City of London, and afterwards read, in a Paper, as
follows. (Here enter it.)
And the House, upon Consideration, gave them this
Answer to them.
"That the Lords do expect that all their Endeavours
be used, for the speedy raising this Money, to prevent further Inconveniencies."
Message to the H. C. with the Letter to the Scots Commissioners;—with Ordinances;—for the Scots Commissioners to be pressed for an Answer to the Propositions.
A Message was sent to the House of Commons, by
Doctor Aylett and the Clerk of the Crown:
1. To desire their Concurrence in the Letter to be
sent to the Scotts Commissioners.
2. To desire their Concurrence in the Ordinance concerning the making Mr. Cardell Minister of Alhollowes,
in Lumbard Street.
3. To desire their Concurrence in the Ordinance concerning an Augmentation for the Minister of Banbury.
4. To desire their Concurrence in the Ordinance for
Trade, with an Alteration.
5. To let them know, that this House hath appointed
their Members of the Committee of both Kingdoms to
meet this Afternoon, and press the Scotch Commissioners
for a positive Answer concerning the Propositions.
Rich to attend as an Assistant.
Ordered, That Mr. Rich, One of the Masters of
the Chancery, shall have Notice, that he attend this
House, as an Assistant.
Order for 900 l. for indigent Persons.
An Order concerning Nine Hundred Pounds to be
paid to Mr. Pococke, &c. was read, and Agreed to; and
Ordered to be sent to the House of Commons, for
Letter from Sir T. Fairfax, about Col. Hammond not sending up Ashburnham, &c.; and that it will be necessary to send an additional Force into the Isle of Wight.
"For the Right Honourable Edward Earl of
Manchester, Speaker of the House of Peers
"By the same Messenger that brings Letters to your
Lordship and the Speaker of the House of Commons
from Colonel Hamond, I received others from him;
by which I perceive that he hath not as yet sent up
those Gentlemen that came to him from the King, and
were sent for by the Parliament. I do not know how
far his Letters to yourself, or the Speaker of the
House of Commons, may concern that Business; nor
what Satisfaction they may give the Houses therein:
And therefore I have written unto him, to send up
those Gentlemen with all convenient Speed; which I
am confident he will accordingly do, unless the
Houses find some such Satisfaction in his Letters as to
signify their Pleasures to him for their Stay. The
King's being in the Isle of Wight (whilst the Houses
think fit He should be continued there) will necessarily require some Strength to be sent over to Colonel Hammond, both for the better securing of the
King's Person, and for strengthening the Island, to
prevent any Confluence of such Persons there as may
breed Danger to the Kingdom; for which, in my
Opinion, the Island and the King's being in it yield
too great Opportunity, if not prevented by a sufficient Strength, to secure the Castles and Landingplaces that are therein. I remain
Windsor, the (fn. *) 24th Nov. 1647.
Most humble Servant,
Letter from Colonel Hammond, desiring he may not be obliged to send up Ashburnham, Legge, and Sir J. Berkley, as it was by their Advice the King came to the Isle of Wight, rather than go out of the Kingdom; and that he has received, and will obey, his Instructions, &c.
"For the Right Honourable the Earl of Manchester, Speaker of the House of Peers pro
"This Morning, I received by the Hands of a Messenger from the General, a Paper of Votes and Resolutions of both Houses of Parliament, bearing Date,
Die Martis, 16 Nov. 1647, relating to the Security
of His Majesty's Person; which, although they came
not to me with Directions from the Houses, yet I
thought it my Duty to take Notice of them (by what
Hand soever received) as their Commands, and accordingly to see them put in Execution. As concerning that Vote not permitting such as have been in
Arms or assisted against the Parliament to come into
this Island, it tending much to the Security of His
Majesty's Person, and the Preserving the Peace of
the Island, I have (as I acquainted your Lordship in
my last Letters, before I received these Votes) given
Orders to that Effect (which are carefully put in Execution), commanding all Masters of Boats belonging
to Hampsheir and this Island, that they land neither
Persons nor Goods in any Part of this Island, save
only at Yarmouth Castle, Cowes Castle, and Ryde, at
which Place I have also appointed a Guard, to whom
Order is given (as to the other Two Castles) for the
examining of all Persons so landing, and to detain
and secure any that cannot give a very good Account
of themselves and their Business. As concerning
your Lordships other Votes (now they are come to
my Hands), I shall with the best of my Endeavours
see them put in Execution. My Lord, Yesterday
there came to me an Officer belonging to the Serjeant
of the House of Commons, with particular Warrants for the apprehending and bringing up in safe
Custody the Bodies of Mr. Jo'n Ashburnham, Mr.
William Legg, and Sir John Berckley, who came hither
with the King, the said Warrants requiring my Assistance to him in the Execution of them; but with
no Order to me from either or both Houses to that
Purpose: And finding the Matter to be of very great
Importance, I have deferred the Messenger, to forbear the Execution of his said Warrants, till I have
given the Houses to understand, that, in case the said
Warrant should be served and put in Execution, it
would be impossible for me to answer the Expectation
and Commands of Parliament, in preserving the
Person of the King in Security, to be disposed by
them, unless I should keep Him close Prisoner; which
is a Business of that Nature, that it is neither fit nor
safe for me to do, especially of myself.
"The Ground from whence I gather this is plainly
thus: The King hath declared Himself to me, That
He came from Hampton Court for no other Cause, but
for the Preservation of His Person, which was (as
He apprehended) in such Danger that He could not
with Safety continue longer there; that, if He could
have been there with Safety, He would not have
departed thence, nor from the Army; and that He
chose this Place rather than any other (when He was
at Liberty to have gone whither He pleased), that
He might still continue under the Protection of the
Army (myself being a Member thereof), and that
He might have Conveniency of free Intercourse between Himself and the Parliament, for the Settlement of a general Peace, to which He professes
greater Inclinations and Desires than ever, and that
there shall be nothing wanting on His Part that may
be reasonably expected from Him. He further saith,
That, in case these Gentlemen be taken from Him,
and punished as Evil-doers, for counselling Him not
to go out of the Kingdom, but rather to come to the
Place where He now is, for the Ends aforesaid, and
for their endeavouring accordingly in attending Him
hither, He cannot but Himself expect to be dealt
with accordingly, His Case being the same: And from
such Apprehensions, your Lordships may easily judge
what He will do, by His former Actings; He having that Liberty that hath ever been allowed Him
since He hath been disposed of by the Parliament.
My Lord, I shall further let you know, that, besides
the Care I shall always have of these Gentlemen,
they have engaged their Honours not to depart from
me; so that I am most consident of their Security.
And truly, were not their Ends the same with their
Pretences (in relation to the Peace of this Kingdom),
I am consident they would never have advised nor
conducted the King to this Place. Besides, were they
at this Time removed from the King, there would
be none left for His Attendance; which (besides the
Offence) how great the Inconvenience would be to
Him, your Lordship cannot be ignorant. And further
give me Leave to add (if so unworthy a Servant of
your Lordships as I am, and that which concerns my
Honour, were at all worthy your Consideration),
whether it would not much reflect upon me, in case
these Gentlemen should be thus removed hence; the
King and themselves having freely thrown themselves
upon me for Safety, upon Confidence (as they please
to say) of my Honour and Honesty, and the Satisfaction they expected it would have given the Parliament, the King being necessitated to remove. My
Lord, My Duty to you and the Kingdom (whose
Good and Peace I most desire, and shall most faithfully endeavour) calls for this Account, which (with
myself and these Gentlemen) I leave to your Lordship's Confideration; with this Conclusion, that whatever is commanded by Authority, specially that of
the Parliament, though never so, contrary to my
Sense or Honour, shall never be disobeyed by,
Carrisbrooke Castle, Nov. 19th, 1647.
Most faithful and humble Servant,
"My Lord, Since the Conclusion of
my Letter, I received the Letter
and Votes of both Houses, of the
16th present, which shall be carefully put in Execution."
Message from the Common Council, thanking the Houses, for preventing Part of the Army quartering in the City;—and that they will get in the Assessments for their Arrears, as fast as possible.
"Commune Concilium tent. in Camera Guihald,
Civitat. London. Die Sabbati, scilicet,
Vicesimo Die Novembris, 1647, Annoque
Regis Caroli Angl. &c. Vicesimo tertio.
"At this Common Council was read a Letter, dated
at Kingston, the 19th Instant, directed unto this Court,
from his Excellency Sir Thomas Fairefax, whereby
Intimation is given (amongst other Things) that, for
the speedy Levying both of the Arrears due to the
Army, and Penalties for Non-payment, according to
the Ordinances of Parliament for that Purpose, his
Excellency, with the Advice of his Council of War,
hath appointed Colonel Hewson, with a Thousand
Foot, to come as upon this Day to quarter in the
City, and within the late Lines of Communication,
in such Places as he finds fittest, until this Service be
accomplished: And Notice being given unto this
Court, That the Right Honourable the Earl of Northumberland, and divers other Honourable Persons
of the House of Peers, and certain Members of the
Honourable House of Commons, were in the Council
Chamber of The Guildhall, and desired to speak with
some of the Members of this Court; and divers of
them were sent forth, namely, Sir John Wollaston,
Mr. Alderman Fowke, Mr. Alderman Gibbs, Mr. Eastwick, Colonel Player; Colonel Gower, Colonel Bellamy, and others: And after their Return unto this
Court, Mr. Alderman Fowke declared, That the said
Lords and Commons had communicated unto them a
Letter, agreeing in Substance with that received from
his Excellency; and whereas the said Thousand Foot
were intended to be quartered this Day as aforesaid,
that the Houses, out of their Care and tender Regard
of this City, had taken Course to prevent the same;
wishing this City to take it to Heart as a Matter of
great Concernment, and provide that the Army may
speedily receive Satisfaction for their Arrears.
"Whereupon, after some Debate, it was thought
fit, and Resolved,
"1. That this Court's Acknowledgement of the
great Favour received, in the timely Diversion
of the coming in of the said Forces, be with all
humble Thanks returned unto both Houses of
"2. That it be humbly presented unto the Parliament, That the Members of this Court will
use their best Endeavours to further the
speedy getting in of the Monies in Arrear to
the Army, upon the several Ordinances, from
the Inhabitants of this City. And that it is
humbly propounded and desired by this Court
(as the best Way and Means to have this Service speedily compleated), that the Parliament
will be pleased to dispense with the Penalties
imposed by the last Ordinance of Parliament,
as to such Collectors who have done and shall
do their utmost Diligence, saving in the Matter
of Distress; for that it appears that these
Penalties have made Collectors fearful and
unwilling to take upon them the Collection of
the last Assessment, to the great Retardation
"3. That it is the humble Desire of this Court,
That the Parliament will be further pleased to
grant Power unto the Committee of the Army,
to sit within this City, and to send for the
Deputies and Common Council Men of the several Wards, and the Collectors of the several
Assessments within the same, and whom else
the said Committee shall think fit, for their
Assistance and Advice, for the better Removal of all Obstructions to the Collection
of the said Assessments, and the Furtherance
and better carrying on of this Work; and
also that some such Persons as were formerly
employed by the Committee at Habberdash'rs
Hall may be appointed Assistants to the said
Collectors, and to distrain (when Cause requires) for Arrears of Assessments due to the
"4. That the said Aldermen and Commoners
shall forthwith communicate this Result of
this Court unto the said Members of both
Houses staying in the Council Chamber; and
on Monday Morning shall present the same
unto both Houses of Parliament.
Kent to be instituted to Beachampton;
Ordered, That Dr. Aylett give Institution and
Induction unto Will'm Kent Clerk, to the Rectory of
Beachampton, in Com. Bucks, void by the Death of the
last Incumbent; salvo, &c.; Symon Bennett Esquire,
and Gaming to Barnham Broom.
Ordered, That Dr. Aylett give Institution and Induction unto Nicholas Gaminge Batchelor in Divinity, to
the Rectory of Barnham Broome, with the Chapel of
Bixton annexed, in Com. Norff. void by Resignation of
the late Incumbent; salvo Jure cujuscunque, &c.; Edward Chamberlaine Esquire, Patron.