House of Lords Journal Volume 9
25 November 1647

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'House of Lords Journal Volume 9: 25 November 1647', Journal of the House of Lords: volume 9: 1646 (1767-1830), pp. 541-543. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=37171 Date accessed: 01 August 2014.


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DIE Jovis, 25 die Novembris.

PRAYERS, by Mr. Gower.

Domini præsentes fuerunt:

Comes Manchester, Speaker.

Comes Pembrooke.
Comes Warwicke.
Comes Mulgrave.
Comes Stamford.
Comes Kent.
Comes Rutland.
Comes Northumb.
L. Viscount Say & Seale.
Comes Salisbury.
Comes Denbigh.
Ds. Howard.
Ds. North.
Ds. La Warr.
Ds. Dacres.

King's Attendants, Passes.

Ordered, That those Persons that are appointed by the Houses to attend the King shall have Passes.

King's Chamber at Hampton Court to be opened.

Ordered, That the King's Chamber Door at Hampton Court shall be opened; and the Lord Mountague is desired to meet with some of the Members of the House of Commons, to see it open, and taking out such Things as are requisite to be sent to the King.

Attendant on the King.

Ordered, That Alexander Smyth, Ewery-man, who hath hitherto waited at the Cupboard since His Majesty's coming from Newcastle, being omitted, may be inserted in the List to attend His Majesty.

Answer from the H. C.

Doctor Aylett and Mr. Sadler return with this Answer from the House of Commons:

That they agree,

1. To the List of the King's Servants.
2. To the Ordinance for making Mr. Cardell Minister of Allhallowes Lumber Streete.
(fn. *) 4. To the Order conderning the Matter of Trade.
5. To the Ordinance for making Mr. Grant Minister of Astley, in Com. Worcester.
(Here enter them.)
To the Answer to the Scotts Letters:
To the Business concerning Captain Jones: And
To the Petition of the Lady Cawfield:
They will send an Answer by Messengers of their own.

E. of Northumb to export Horses.

Ordered, That the Earl of Northumb. shall have Leave to transport Two Horses into France, to exchange for a Spanish Horse.

Croker and Wise.

Ordered, That the Cause between Croker and Wise shall be heard, upon the Practice, this Day Sevennight.

Paper from the Scots Commissioners, about the Propositions.

"The Lord Viscount Say & Seale reported, "That the Members of both Houses that are of the Committee of both Kingdoms have (fn. †) met with the Scotch Commissioners, and pressed them for an Answer concerning the Propositions to be sent to the King; and they have returned a Paper in Answer thereunto:"

Which Paper was read. (Here enter it.)

Committee to consider of such Propositions as are necessary to be immediately presented.

Lords Committees appointed to consider of such Propositions as they conceive to be absolutely and immediately necessary for our present Security, and to report the same to the House:

Comes Northumb.
Comes Kent.
Comes Pembrooke.
Comes Salisbury.
Comes Mulgrave.
Comes Warwicke.
Comes Manchester.
L. Viscount Say & Seale.
Ds. Howard.
Ds. North.

Any Three; to meet presently, and when after they shall appoint; and to have Power to adjourn themselves.

Message from the H. C. with an Ordinance and Order;—about the Committee for Examination of the London Agents who encouraged the late Mutiny;—and with a Paper to the Scots Commissioners.

A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Mr. Reynolds, &c.

1. To desire Concurrence in some Alterations in the Ordinance concerning the Minister of Banbury.

(Here enter it.)

Read, and Agreed to.

2. An Order for Timber assigned to Banbury.

(Here enter it.)

Agreed to.

3. To desire that the Quorum of the Committee for Examination of the Business concerning the London Agents may be reduced to Two Lords and Four Commoners.

Agreed to.

4. A Paper to be delivered to the Scotts Commissioners.

The Answer returned was:

Answer.

That this (fn. *) House will send an Answer to the Paper concerning the Scotts Commissioners by Messengers of their own: To the rest of the Particulars, this House agrees.

Message to the H. C. about preventing the publishing of scandalous Books, and procuring of improper Petitions, &c.;—and to remind them of the Answer to be sent to the Scots Commissioners.

A Message was sent to the House of Commons, by Doctor Aylett and Mr. Sadler:

To let them know, that the Lords, having seriously considered the Dangers and Mischiefs that may be brought upon the Kingdom, by the Endeavours of those Agents that have formerly and still do continue to use their Interest for the subverting of the present established Government of this Kingdom, do desire that the Committee formerly appointed for the Examination of that Business may have Power to frame a Declaration, setting forth the dangerous Consequences that may come to the whole Kingdom, if not prevented; and likewise to put it into a Way for a present Punishment and Suppression of such Persons as shall be found spreading of Papers, or writing of Books, or procuring Subscriptions to Petitions, or any other Way active in promoting so destructive a Design.

2. To put them in Mind of the Answer to be sent to the Scotts Commissioners of their Letters.

Propositions necessary to be immediately presented.

The Earl of Manchester reported from the Committee, what Propositions are absolutely necessary for our present Security: And they think, "That the Propositions for the Militia, the Revoking of the King's Declarations to be revoked, the Proposition concerning Titles and Honours, and a Proposition concerning Power to adjourn this Parliament, as both Houses shall agree."

These being approved of by the House;

It is Ordered, To have a Conference with the House of Commons To-morrow Morning, to acquaint them with these, and to give them Reasons for it.

Ordinance for an Augmentation to the Living of Banbury.

"Whereas, upon the humble Petition of the Mayor, Aldermen, Burgesses, and Inhabitants, of Banbury, in the County of Oxon, shewing; "That the Town and Parish of Banbury consists of a great Number of People, and the Maintenance for the Minister there is very small, and not above Fifty Pounds per Annum, in the best Times; and now much less, by reason a great Part of the said Town hath been burned and pulled down in the Time of these late Troubles, and the Inhabitants so impoverished and destroyed in their Estates, that they are not able, as heretofore they have done, to add any Thing to the Maintenance of their Minister;" the Committee for plundered Ministers did in December last order, That the Yearly Rent of Forty-eight Pounds, reserved out of the Impropriate Rectory of Banbury aforesaid to the Bishop of Oxford, and the Yearly Sum of Two Pounds of the Rents reserved to the said Bishop out of the Impropriate Rectory of Croppredy in the said County, should be paid Yearly, for the Increase of the Maintenance of such Minister as the Assembly of Divines shall approve of, to officiate the Cure of the said Church; and whereas the Mayor, Aldermen, Burgesses, and Inhabitants of Banbury aforesaid have, by their like humble Petition, humbly addressed themselves to both Houses of Parliament, and desired thereby that the said Fifty Pounds per Annum may be by both Houses of Parliament settled and confirmed, for the further and better Maintenance of such Minister as shall from Time to Time be legally settled amongst them, to officiate in the said Parish Church: The Lords and Commons in this present Parliament assembled, taking into Consideration the heavy Pressures that have lyen upon the said Town, and the great Losses they have had, and the Reasonableness of the Desire and humble Request of the Mayor, Aldermen, Burgesses, and Inhabitants of the said Town and Parish; and withal considering how acceptable a Work it is to Almighty God, to provide for the compleat Maintenance of able and godly Ministers; have thought fit to order and ordain, and do hereby order, ordain, and appoint, That the said Yearly Sum of Fifty Pounds, videlicet, Forty-eight Pounds out of the Rents and Profits of the Impropriate Rectory of Banbury, and Two Pounds out of the Rents and Profits of the Impropriate Rectory of Cropreddy aforesaid, shall be, for ever hereafter, Yearly paid to such Minister, for Increase of his Maintenance, as shall from Time to Time be legally settled and appointed to officiate in the said Parish Church, and to be paid by equal Portions, Half-yearly, on the 25th Day of March, and 29th Day of September."

Corporation of Banbury, Power to sell Timber assigned to them for Repair of their Town, &c.

"Ordered, by the Lords and Commons assembled in Parliament, That the Corporation of Banbury shall have Liberty to sell the Timber in the Place where it is by former Order assigned unto them for Repair of their Town, and with the Proceed thereof buy so much Timber in some Place more convenient for those Purposes; the Timber so assigned being so far remote and distant from the Town of Banbury, where it is to be employed, that the Charge and Expence of Carriage will near amount to the Value of the Timber."

Ordinance for Cardell to be Minister of Allhallows, Lombard Street.

"Forasmuch as it hath appeared to the Lords and Commons in Parliament assembled, as well by the humble Petition of the Parishioners of the Parish of Alhallowes Lumbard Streete, London, as by other sufficient Testimonies, That John Weston, late Rector of the said Parish Church of Alhallowes, is dead; and forasmuch as the Right of Presentation did formerly belong unto the Dean and Chapter of Canterbury: The said Lords and Commons have ordained, and be it Ordained, That, from and immediately after the Passing of this Ordinance, John Cardell, an able and orthodox Minister, who hath officiated in the said Parish, as Lecturer and Incumbent, during the Sequestration of the said Weston, by Order of Parliament, for these (fn. *) Twelve Years now last past, do officiate there, and be to all Intents and Purposes lawful Rector and Minister thereof, during his Natural Life; and have thereby full Power and Authority to gather, take, and receive, and to use all lawful Ways and Means for the Recovery of, all Tithes, Profits, Advantages, and Parochial Dues, and Appurtenances whatsoever, belonging to the said Rector of the said Place for the Time being, to his own Use, during the Time aforesaid, in as large and ample Manner as the said John Weston (late Incumbent), or any other heretofore Rector of the said Place, lawfully had and enjoyed, or ought to have had and enjoyed, the same; and shall pay all such Tenths, First Fruits, and other Duties, as are or ought to be payable by the Incumbent of the said Rectory, for or in respect of the same: Saving to all Bodies Politic and Corporate, and all other Person and Persons, all Right and Title as they or any of them have unto the Parsonage of the Church of Alhallowes aforesaid, other than the said Dean and Chapter, and such Persons as are sequestered by the Ordinance of Parliament for the sequestering of Papists and Delinquents Estates: And the Commissioners of the Great Seal are hereby authorized to pass the same, under the Great Seal of England, unto the said John Cardell, accordingly; and Oliver St. John Esquire, His Majesty's Solicitor General, is hereby required to prepare a Patent accordingly."

Paper from the Scots Commissioners, pressing for an Answer to their former Letters; and desiring a Free Conference with Committees on the Propositions.

"We are commaunded by the Committee of Estates of the Parliament of Scotland, to presse an Answere from the Houses to our former Papers, which wee have daily expected; and doe againe with all Earnestnes desire a Personall Treaty with His Majesty, being in our Judgments a readyer Way to compose all Differences, then the sending of these Propositions, wherein there are foe greate and effentiall Differences from what was formerly agreed on by both Kingdomes: And to the End there may be noe Retardment on our Part for Pursuance of all good Meanes which may procure a happy Peace, wee desire that wee may have a Free Conferrence with a full Committee of both Houses, where wee shall endeavor to give Sattisfaction touching the Expediency of our Desires; and shall alsoe shew the Difference of our Judgments from these Propositions; that, according to the Treaty, there may be (with Advice and Consent of both Nations) a speedy Agreement in that which is the Foundation of setlinge Religion with the Peace and Safety of both Kingdomes."

List of the Servants appointed to attend the King in the Isle of Wight.

"A List of the Servants appointed to attend the King.

"Mr. Maxwell.
Mr. Maull.
Mr. Henry Murray.
Mr. Thomas Herbert.
Mr. James Harrington.
Sir Fulke Grevill.
Mr. Mildmay.
Mr. Anstie.
Mr. Tytus.
Mr. Reevs.
Mr. Redding.
Mr. Firebrace.
Mr. Turner.
Mr. Hardinge.
Captain Middleton.
Mr. Burroughs.
Mr. Doussett.
Mr. Saltmarsh.
Mr. Cressett.
Mr. Joyner.
Mr. Evans.
Mr. Muschampe.
Mr. Andrewe.
Mr. Babbington.
Mr. Napier.
Mr. Catcherside.
Mr. Preston.
Mrs. Wheeler, the Laundress.
Mr. Lewin.
Captain Thombill."

"Besides Coachmen, Footmen, Grooms, and Under Cooks.

"And also Sharley and Laban, Two Pages for the Presence Chamber."

"Ordered, by the Lords and Commons in Parliament assembled, That it be referred to the Committee of the Revenue, to take Care to send them down accordingly."

Order for the Committee for Foreign Affairs to consider of the Trade of Wool, Woolen Manufactures, &c.

"Ordered, by the Lords and Commons assembled in Parliament, That the Committee of Lords and Commons for Foreign Affairs, or any Five of them, do consider of the State and Condition of the Trade of this Kingdom, in relation to Wools, Clothing, and all Manufactures of Wool, and of all the Causes of the Decay of the Vent of those Manufactures in Foreign Parts: They are likewise to consider of the State of the Trade of Irish and all Foreign Wool, and by what Way and Means they may be made most useful, to advantage the Manufacture of Wool, and increase the Trade of this Kingdom and other His Majesty's Dominions; for which Purpose, this Committee has Power to treat and conser with the Ministers of Foreign Princes and States, and likewise for the removing of all Obstructions in that Trade of Wool and Woollen Manufactures, by occasion of Impositions and Taxes laid upon the Manufactures of this Kingdom within any of their Dominions; and they have Power to employ such Person or Persons as they shall think fit, to any Foreign Prince or State, for that Purpose; making Report to the Houses of what they have done therein, for their Allowance and Approbation, before any Thing be fully concluded."

Ordinance for Grant to be Minister of Astley.

"Forasmuch as it hath appeared to the Lords and Commons in Parliament assembled, as well by the humble Petition of the Parishioners of the Parish of Astley, in the County of Worcester, as by a Certificate from the Committee of that County, That Mr. John Wood, late Pastor of the said Parish of Astley, is now, through Age and Weakness, utterly unable to officiate any longer there, and hath made a true, free, and full Resignation of the said Rectory, under his Hand and Seal, to the Parliament; and forasmuch as Sir John Winford Knight, to whom the Right of Presentation formerly belonged, having been in Arms against the Parliament, stands now sequestered for the same: The said Lords and Commons have ordained, and be it hereby Ordained, That, from and immediately after the Passing of this Ordinance, the said Mr. John Wood do cease to be any longer Pastor or Minister of the said Parish and Church of Astley; and that, from thenceforth, Mr. Jonathan Grant, an able and orthodox Minister, do officiate there, and be to all Intents and Purposes lawful Pastor and Minister thereof, during his Natural Life; and have hereby full Power and Authority to gather, take, and receive, and to use all lawful Ways and Means for the Recovery of, all Tithes, Profits, Advantages, Parochial Dues, and Appurtenances whatsoever, belonging to the Pastor of the said Place for the Time being, to his own Use, during the Time aforesaid, in as large and ample Manner as the said Mr. John Wood, or any others heretofore Pastors of the said Place, lawfully had and enjoyed, or ought to have had and enjoyed, the same; and shall pay all such Tenths, First Fruits, and other Duties, as are, or ought to be, payable by the Incumbent of the said Rectory, for or in respect of the same: Saving to all Bodies Politic and Corporate, and all other Person and Persons, all Right and Title as they, or any of them, have unto the Patronage of the Church of Astley aforesaid, other than the abovenamed Sir John Winford Knight, and his Heirs, and such Persons as are sequestrable by the Ordinance of Parliament for sequestering of Papists and Delinquents Estates: And the Commissioners of the Great Seal are hereby authorized to pass the same, under the Great Seal of England, unto the said Mr. Jonathan Grant, accordingly."

Adjourn.

House adjourned till 9a cras.

Footnotes

* Sic.
Origin. meet.
* Deest in Originali.
* Sic.