House of Lords Journal Volume 9
14 December 1647

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'House of Lords Journal Volume 9: 14 December 1647', Journal of the House of Lords: volume 9: 1646 (1767-1830), pp. 574-575. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=37186 Date accessed: 16 April 2014. Add to my bookshelf


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DIE Martis, 14 die Decembris.

PRAYERS, by Mr. Warde.

Domini præsentes fuerunt:

Comes Manchester, Speaker.

Comes Kent.
Comes Stanford.
Comes Mulgrave.
Comes Northumb.
Comes Warwicke.
L. Viscount Say & Seale.
Comes Denbigh.
Comes Rutlande.
Ds. North.
Ds. Grey.
Ds. Wharton.
Ds. Howard.
Ds. Dacres.

Colonel Moore's Officers Petition for Card, convicted of Horsestealing, to be pardoned, and sent to Ireland.

Upon the Petition of divers Captains and others, Officers in the Regiment of Colonel John Moore; shewing, "That one Edward Card is known to be an able Soldier, but is found guilty of Felony in the County of Bucks last Assizes, for taking of Two Horses in his March towards Ireland, although the Owner hath his Horses again; that Mr. Justice Pheasant, perceiving the Evidence to be somewhat slender, did reprieve (fn. *) him: Therefore they desire that the said Edward Card may be discharged from his Imprisonment, and be transported into Ireland."

It is Ordered, That this Business be respited, till Mr. Justice Pheasant give this House Account of it.

The House was adjourned into a Committee of the whole House, to consider of the Four Bills to be sent to His Majesty for His Consent.

The House being resumed;

The said Four Bills were read, as follow:

Act for settling the Forces by Sea and Land.

Hodie 3 a vice lecta est Billa, An Act concerning the raising, settling, and maintaining Forces, by Sea and by Land, within the Kingdoms of England and Ireland, and Dominion of Wales, the Isles of Guernsey and Jersey, and the Town of Barwicke upon Twede.

And the Question being put, "Whether to pass this Bill as a Law?"

It was Resolved in the Affirmative.

Act to justify the Proceedings of Parliament.

Hodie 3 a vice lecta est Billa, An Act for justifying the Proceedings of Parliament in the late War; and for declaring all Oaths, Declarations, Proclamations, and other Proceedings against it, to be void.

And the Question being put, "Whether to pass this Bill as a Law?"

It was Resolved in the Affirmative.

Act concerning the Adjournment of the Houses.

Hodie 3 a vice lecta est Billa, An Act concerning the Adjournment of both Houses of Parliament.

And the Question being put, "Whether to pass this Bill as a Law?"

It was Resolved in the Affirmative.

Act concerning Peers lately made.

Hodie 3 a vice lecta est Billa, An Act concerning Peers lately made, and hereafter to be made.

The Question being put, "Whether to pass this Bill as a Law?"

It was Resolved in the Affirmative.

Instructions for presenting them.

Next, the Instructions to those that shall be appointed to present the aforesaid Bills to His Majesty, were read, and Agreed to, with Alterations.

To be communicated to the Scots Commissioners.

Ordered, That these Instructions be communicated to the Scotts Commissioners, by the Members of both Houses that are of the Committee of both Kingdoms, this Afternoon.

Committee to carry the Bills to the King.

Ordered, That the Earl of Denbigh and the Lord Mountague, or any One of them, are appointed to carry and present the Four Bills and Propositions to the King, and to join with a proportionable Number of the House of Commons.

Message to the H. C. to appoint a Committee to go with them;— about their Instructions;—and for them to be communicated to the Scots Commissioners.

A Message was sent to the House of Commons, by Doctor Aylett and Mr. Eltonhead:

1. To acquaint them, that this House hath passed the Four Bills to be sent to the King.

2. To deliver to them the Instructions, with the Alterations therein, and desire their Concurrence therein.

3. To let them know, that this House hath named Two Lords to carry the Bills to the King, and desire that they would name a proportionable Number of their House to join; and desire their Concurrence in the Instructions to be given them.

4. To desire Concurrence, that these Instructions may be communicated to the Scotts Commissioners, by the Members of both Houses that are of the Committee of both Kingdoms, this Afternoon.

The Answer returned was:

Answer from them.

That the House of Commons agrees to the Alterations in the Instructions, and agrees to have them communicated to the Scots Commissioners; and they have appointed Four Members of their House, to join with the Two Lords, to carry the Bills to the King.

Sway's Business.

Ordered, That the Business of John Sway, reported from the Committee of Indemnity, is (fn. *) to be examined by the said Committee of Indemnity.

Committee to consider of the Impeachment against the Seven Lords who sat while the Speakers, &c. were with the Army.

The House takinginto Consideration the Business of the Seven Lords impeached:

Ordered, That these Lords Committees shall consider of Precedents; and to offer somewhat to the House, for preventing the like Precedent for the future:

Comes Northumb.
Comes Kent.
Comes Mulgrave.
Comes Denbigh.
Comes Rutland.
Comes Stamford.
L. Viscount Say & Seale.
Ds. Grey.
Ds. North.
Ds. Wharton.

Any Three; to meet on Thursday next, at Nine of the Clock in the Morning.

Commissioners Address to the King, on presenting Him the Bills for the Royal Assent, and the Propositions.

"The Lords and Commons assembled in Parliament have commanded us to present to Your Majesty these Four Bills, which have passed the Two Houses of Parliament; thus severally intituled,

"An Act concerning the raising, settling, and maintaining Forces, by Sea and Land, within the Kingdoms of England and Ireland, and Dominion of Wales, the Isles of Guernsey and Jersey, and the Town of Berwick upon Tweed.

"An Act for justifying the Proceedings of Parliament in the late War; and for declaring all Oaths, Declarations, Proclamations, and other Proceedings against it, to be void.

"An Act concerning Peers lately made, and hereafter to be made.

"An Act concerning the Adjournments of both Houses of Parliament.

"And they also commanded us to present to Your Majesty these ensuing Propositions:

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2.
3.
4.
The Propositions as they were before (excepting the Three now put into Bills) to be here inserted. &c.

"They have also commanded us to desire, That Your Majesty give Your Royal Assent to these Bills, by Your Letters Patents under the Great Seal of England, and signed by Your Hand, and declared and notified to the Lords and Commons assembled together in the House of Peers, according to the Law declared in that Behalf; it appearing to them, upon mature Deliberation, that it stands not with the Safety and Security of the Kingdom and Parliament, to have Your Majesty's Assent at this Time given otherwise. They desire, therefore, that Your Majesty be pleased to grant Your Warrant for the Draught of a Bill, for such Your Letters Patents to be presented to Your Majesty; and then a Warrant to Edward Earl of Manchester, and William Lenthall Esquire Speaker of the House of Commons, who have now the Custody of the Great Seal of England, to put the same to such Your Majesty's Letters Patents signed as aforesaid; thereby authorizing Algernon Earl of Northumberland, Henry Earl of Kent, John Earl of Rutland, Phillip Earl of Pembrooke, William Earl of Salisbury, Robert Earl of Warwick, and Edmond Earl of Mulgrave, or any Three of them, to give Your Majesty's Royal Assent unto the said Bills, according to the Law in that Behalf declared. And for the other Particulars contained in the afore-mentioned Propositions, the Two Houses of Parliament will, after such Your Majesty's Assent given to the said Bills, send a Committee of both Houses, to treat with Your Majesty, in the Isle of Wight, thereupon."

"Instructions for Bazill Earl of Denbigh, Edward Lord Mountague, Mr. Bunckley, Mr. Lisle, Mr. Kempe, and Mr. Robert Goodwin, to go with the Four Bills to the King.

Instructions for the Commissioners.

"You, or any Three of you (whereof One Member of the House of Peers and Two Members of the House of Commons to be present), are to repair to His Majesty with these Bills, and pursue these Instructions; and you are to attend His Majesty for the Space of Ten Days, and no longer; and to return back to the said Houses respectively, with His Majesty's Answer."

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