House of Lords Journal Volume 6
5 June 1643

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'House of Lords Journal Volume 6: 5 June 1643', Journal of the House of Lords: volume 6: 1643 (1767-1830), pp. 80-83. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=37263 Date accessed: 27 November 2014.


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DIE Lunæ, 5 Junii.

PRAYERS.

Earl of Manchester, Speaker this Day.

Lady Munson, a Pass.

Ordered, That the Lady Munson shall have a Pass, to come from Oxford to London.

The Messengers sent to the House of Commons on Saturday return with this Answer:

Answer from the H. C.

That they will take the Lord Sheffeild's Case into their Consideration.

2. Touching the Business of the Earl of Crecy, and the Ordinance for the Six Associated Counties of Wales, they will take the same into their Consideration, and send an Answer by Messengers of their own.

Upon reading the Petition of the University of Cambridge; it is Ordered, That this Petition be communicated to the House of Commons at a Conference, and recommended to them, with the Sense of this House with it. (Here enter it.)

University of Cambridge Petition, to be freed from Assessments, and their Privileges continued to them.

"To the Right Honourable the Lords and Commons now assembled in the High Court of Parliament.

"The humble Petition of the University of Cambridge,

"Humbly presenteth to your Honourable Consideration the sad dejected State of the said University; how our Schools daily grow desolate, mourning the Absence of their Professors and their wonted Auditories; how, in our Colleges, our Numbers grow thin, and our Revenues short; and what Subsistence we have abroad is for the most Part involved in the common Miseries; how, frighted by the Neighbour Noise of War, our Students either quit their Gowns, or abandon their (fn. *) Studies; how our Degrees lie disesteemed, and all Hopes of our Public Commencements are blasted in the Bud; besides sundry other pressing Inconveniencies, which we forbear to mention: We cannot but conceive your Honourable Piety (out of a noble Zeal to Learning) will cordially pity our sad Condition, and, as the present general Calamities give Way, afford us some Succour and Encouragement. Your Wisdoms best know what Privileges and Immunities have been in all good Times afforded to the Seats of Learning and the Professors of it; and, even in the Fury and Heat of War, Places of Religion and Devotion have usually not only (on both Sides) been spared from Ruin, but supported and esteemed as Sanctuaries. Hence it is that the Members of our University (by Charter, confirmed by Act of Parliament) stand expressly freed from all Preparations and Contributions to any War; hence is it that, in Neighbour Territories, where the Excise is most in Use, the University with all their Students are exempt.

"May it therefore not (fn. *) be displeasing to your pious Wisdom, if, in all Humility, we crave at your Hands a tender Commiseration of our Case, that you will be pleased to exempt our poor Estates from all such Rates and Impositions, to vouchsafe such Freedom to our Persons (not giving just Offence) as may enable us the better to keep together, and daily to offer up our joint Prayers to God, for a blessed Union betwixt our Gracious Sovereign and you, and the Blessing of Peace upon the Land."

Ordinance for an Assembly of Divines.

The Ordinance of the Lords and Commons in Parliament, for the calling of an Assembly of Learned and Godly Divines, to be consulted with by the Parliament, for the settling of the Government and Liturgy of the Church of England, and for vindicating and clearing of the Doctrine of the said Church from false Aspersions and Interpretations.

Committee to consider of it.

Ordered, That the Consideration of this Ordinance shall be referred to these Lords Committees, who are to report their Opinions to this House:

Comes Northumb.
Comes Holland.
Comes Bedford.
Comes Sarum.
Comes Portland.
Comes Rutland.
Comes Manchester.
Comes Clare.
Comes Bollingbrooke.
Comes Denbigh.
L. Viscount Conway.
Ds. Howard.
Ds. Bruce.

Their Lordships, or any Five, to meet this Afternoon, at Three of the Clock.

Mr. Serjeant Whitfeild and the rest of the King's Counsel.

Committee to consider of the Answer to the King's Message about the Adventurers Bill for Ireland.

The Answer to the King's Message, concerning the Bill for the paying in of the Adventurers-money for Ireland, was read, and committed to the Consideration of these Lords following:

E. Northumb.
E. Sarum.
E. Holland.
E. Bedford.
L. Viscount Conway.
L. Howard.

Lady St. George, a Pass.

Ordered, That the Lady St. George shall have a Pass; to go into Buckinghamshire.

Johnson, a Pass to France.

Ordered, That Wm. Johnson, a Master of Arts, of Queene's Colledge, in Cambridge, shall have a Pass, for himself and a Boy, to go into France.

Message from the H. C. for a Conference;

A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Sir Rob't Pye:

1. To desire a Conference, touching the Matter of the last Conference.

and to expedite Two Ordinances.

2. To desire their Lordships to give Expedition to the Ordinance concerning Sir Tho. (fn. †) Middleton, and another concerning Sir Wm. Waller.

The Answer returned was:

Answer.

That their Lordships will give a present Conference, in the Painted Chamber as is desired; and concerning the Ordinance concerning Sir Tho. Middleton, it is passed already, and their Lordships will send an Answer; to the Ordinance concerning Sir Wm. Waller, their Lordships will take the same into Consideration, and return (fn. ‡) an Answer by Messengers of their own.

Committee for disposing of Persons Houses who have left the City.

Ordered, That the Committee concerning the disposing of Houses in London, of such Persons as have forsaken the City, shall meet To-morrow in the Afternoon, at Three of the Clock; and the Earl of Sarum is added to this Committee.

Ordinance for Concurrence.

The Ordinance touching raising of Monies, for the keeping of the Fortifications in Southwarke, was read.

(Here enter it.)

Agreed to.

Rastall, a Pass.

Ordered, That Tho. Rastall shall have a Pass, to go to Oxford, and return to London, with his Horse and Necessaries.

Lord Dormer, a Pass.

Ordered, That the Lord Dormer shall have a Pass, to come to London, with his Horses, Servants, and Necessaries, from Woodstocke.

Countess of Carnarvon's Funeral.

Ordered, That such Servants and others, as shall be thought fit, shall have a Pass, to come from Oxford, to Wing, to attend the Body of the Countess of Carnarvan, and there to stay till that Family be dissolved.

Mr. Morley, a Pass.

Ordered, That Mr. Morley shall have a Pass, to come from Oxford, to preach a Funeral Sermon at Wing, and return to Oxford.

The House was adjourned during Pleasure, and the House went to the Conference; which being ended, the House was resumed.

Report of the Conference concerning the Propositions for bringing Coals from Newcastle;

The Speaker reported the Effect of this Conference:

"1. Concerning the Propositions for fetching Sea Coals from Newcastle, wherein the House of Commons thinks fit to make Two Alterations."

Which Alterations being read, their Lordships concurred with the House of Commons in the said Ordinance, with the said Alterations.

and concerning Gunpowder, and the Prisoners at Oxford.

"2. That the House of Commons have considered of their Lordships Alterations in the Orders concerning Gunpowder, and the Prisoners at Oxford, wherein the House of Commons agrees not with their Lordships, but adheres to their former Resolutions, as it was brought up."

Ordered, That these Orders shall be taken into Consideration To-morrow Morning.

Message to the H. C. that the Lords agree to the First Part.

A Message was sent to the House of Commons, by Dr. Aylett and Dr. Heath:

To let them know, that this House agrees with the House of Commonsin the Propositions concerning Newcastle, with the Amendments brought up from the House of Commons.

Ordinance to raise 100 l. Weekly, for the Defence of Southwark.

"Whereas there is a Necessity of keeping a constant and considerable Guard of Soldiers in their Fortifications and Courts of Guard in the Parishes of St. Olives, St. Saviors, St. Thomas, and St. Georges, St. Mary (fn. *) Magdalens Bermondsey, St. Mary Newington, and the Parishes of Roderith and Lambeth, all being in the Borough of Southwarke, or near thereunto, for the Safety of the said several Places, wherein that of the Parliament and City of London is also very much concerned; and whereas divers of the Inhabitants in the said Places are poor labouring Men, and cannot be tied to a constant and due Attendance on the Courts of Guard without Prejudice to their Families depending on them, unless there be some Allowance paid them for the said Service; and forasmuch as the Burthen both of making divers Fortisications and other Services hath hitherto lain almost wholly on the wellaffected Party in the aforesaid Places, which in Reason, as it refers to common Safety, ought to be born indifferently by all the Inhabitants: It is now therefore Ordered, by the Lords and Commons in Par liament assembled, That, for the better Encouragement and Maintenance of the said Courts of Guard during the Continuance of these Distractions, and for the Payment of such Debts as are behind and unpaid for the said Fortifications and other Services, there be a Weekly Assessment of One Hundred Pounds per Week (commencing from the and to continue for Three Months from thenceforth), to be indifferently assessed and raised on the forementioned Parishes and Places; and that Sir John Lenthall Knight, Cornelius Cooke, Captain Thomas Hudson, Captain Daniell Mercer, Captain John Hardwicke, Captain George Snelling, Richard Wright, Robert Houghton, William Hiccox, Joseph Collyer, Edmond Austen the Elder, Samuell Lynn, Martin, Hackett, John Goad, or any Five of them, shall have Power, and are hereby authorized, to do all such Things, for the well, speedy, and effectual raising of the said Weekly Sum of One Hundred Pounds, as any Committees appointed by a late Ordinance of Parliament, for the raising and levying of the Weekly Assessments, for the Payment of the Army under the Command of his Excellency the Earl of Essex, may, might, or ought to do, to all Intents and Purposes: And it is also hereby Ordered, That all the Trained Bands and Companies of Voluntiers, together with all such Companies as shall be raised and resident in the said Borough of Southwarke, and other the forementioned Parishes and Places, do duly and carefully attend the said Courts of Guards and Fortifications, and other Military Services, under such Pains and Penalties in every Degree as is enjoined and specisied in any Ordinance of this present Parliament already made, for the due Keeping and Attendance on the Courts of Guard and Military Service in the Cities of London and Westm. or either of them."

Sea Coals from Newcastle.

The Alterations in the Bill for Sea Coal at (fn. *) Newcastle: Two Parts of Papists Estates not Delinquents, and all the Estates of such as are declared to be Delinquents by the Ordinance of Sequestration, shall be forthwith sequestered, &c.

"That they shall be accountable to such Persons as shall be appointed by both Houses."

Johnson and Talcot.

Upon reading a Petition of Johnson and Marshall, against Thomas Talcott, desiring, "To have their Cause heard, after an Order of this House made upon hearing of the said Cause by Counsel on both Sides at the Bar:"

The said Petition is rejected.

Propositions for reducing Newcastle, that the City may be supplied with Coals from thence.

"Whereas the greatest Part of this Kingdom, and more especially the City of London, and most Maritime Towns, are served and furnished with Coals from the Town of Newcastle upon Tyne, and the adjacent Parts of Northumberland, and the Bishoprick of Durham; which being now kept by Forces, consisting of Papists, and other ill-affected Persons, under the Command of the Earl of Newcastle, the City of London and all the greatest Part of this Kingdom are like to suffer very deeply in the Want of that Commodity, so absolutely necessary to the Maintenance and Support of Life, and which is like to be of very dangerous Consequence, in the Influence which it may have upon the Necessities of the meaner Sort; and whereas it is also very dangerous to adventure Shipping within the Command of the Forts there erected, as being subjected to a Surprize, and like enough to be made Use of against the Safety of the Kingdom, if they should make their Voyage only manned as usually for Trade; and how great Use hath been made of the Port of Newcastle to the Danger of the Kingdom, since it came into the Hands of the said Earl, is manifest to all: It is therefore hoped, that there are none that will be backward to contribute their best Assistance towards the reducing of that Place, in the Recovery whereof all Men are interested; and the rather for the Opportunity that is now given, if it be speedily undertaken, and effectually prosecuted: And whereas, in Obedience to an Order of the House of Commons, the Committee of the Navy communicated their Opinions in Writing to the Lord Mayor of London, by what Means the said City may be furnished with Coals, with Desire that his Lordship would impart the same to the Aldermen of that City, or such other Persons as his Lordship should think fit; which Writing, with the Petition and Provisions of divers Citizens of London, were read at a Common Council, held at Guildhall, in London, the 20th of this Instant Month; where the said Court, taking all the Premises into their serious Consideration, did conceive that this great Work might be effected, if both Houses of Parliament should think fit to approve of these ensuing Propositions: Wherefore the Lords and Commons in Parliament assembled, upon mature Deliberation had of the Propositions following, and well approving the good Affections of the City of London to the Public Service, and of all such other well-affected Persons as shall subscribe and pay in any considerable Sum of Money, according to the ensuing Propositions, for and towards this great and necessary Undertaking, do Order and Ordain in Manner and Form following:

"And First, the House of Commons do consent and nominate Ten of their Members, and the Lords and Commons do Order and Ordain, That the Common Council of London shall nominate a like Number for the City, to be as a Committee, jointly to manage all Affairs touching this Adventure; and to call to their Assistance in this Service such of the Out Ports or others as they shall think fit.

"2. That the said Committee, so to be nominated, shall have Power to make Sub-committees among themselves, and to give them such Instructions as they shall think fit, being pursuant and agreeable to these Propositions, and to prepare Books for such Subscriptions; to appoint Persons from Time to Time in all Places to take the same, and to receive all such Monies as shall be subscribed and paid in according to such Subscriptions; and to return or issue out the same to such Persons, and in such Manner, as the said Committee, or the greater Number of them, shall direct.

"3. That all Monies to be advanced upon these Propositions shall be paid to such Treasurers as the said Committee shall appoint, and shall be only employed by the said Committee for the reducing of the said Town of Newcastle and the Parts adjacent, till the same be effected, and to none other Purpose whatsoever; and that the said Treasurers shall be accountable to such Persons as shall be appointed by both Houses.

"4. That every Owner or Master of or in any Ship or Ships, trading for Coals, Salt, or Glass, to the Towns of Newcastle, Sunderland, or Blith, or to any Place adjacent, now under the Power of the Earl of Newcastle, and not subscribing One Half of his Stock which he hath in any such Ship or Ships to these Propositions, within One Month after these Propositions shall be agreed upon by the Lords and Commons in Parliament, shall pay, to the Persons to be appointed by the said Committee to receive the same, for every Chaldron of Coals he shall so buy there, the Sum of Four Shillings; and for every Wey of Salt, Two Shillings; and for every Case of Glass, One Shilling; more than shall be paid by any (fn. *) Adventurer that shall buy there any of the said Commodities of Coals, Salt, or Glass; the said Payments to be made to the Use of the Adventurers, upon Accompt, and to continue till the said Adventurers shall be reimbursed, according to the ensuing Propositions, and no longer.

"5. That every Person within the said City of London, or Ten Miles thereof, or within such of the Out Ports or Cities, or dwelling upon any Navigable River, or within Five Miles of any of them, which have or shall have their Coals from any of the said Towns of Newcastle, Sunderland, Blith, or Places adjacent, which shall not subscribe to these Propositions, within One Month after the same shall be agreed upon by both Houses of Parliament, a Sum of Money at least proportionable to the Coals he annually expends in his House, in the Judgement of the said Committee (such as are not Subsidy-men only excepted), shall pay Ten Shillings for every Chaldron of Coals more than others shall pay that do subscribe; the same Payments to be made and collected to the Use of the Adventurers, upon Accompt, in such Manner as the said Committee shall appoint, and to continue until the said Adventurers shall be reimbursed, according to the ensuing Propositions, and no longer.

"6. That, if any Subscriber shall use any fraudulent or indirect Means to furnish any other Person with Coals, that shall not subscribe within the Time before limited, such Subscriber shall forfeit the Benefit of his own Subscription; and both Parties shall be liable to such further Punishment as shall be inflicted by both Houses of Parliament.

"7. That no Person shall be permitted to sell Coals in London, or in any other Port or Place which is or shall be furnished with Coals from the said Towns of Newcastle, Sunderland, Blith, and Places adjacent, unless such as shall subscribe a Sum proportionable to their Trade, in the Judgement of the said Committee.

"8. That Two Parts of the Estates of Papists not Delinquents, and all the Estates of such as are declared to be Delinquents by the Ordinance of Sequestration, within the County of Northumberland, the County and Bishoprick of Durham, and in the Town and County of Newcastle upon Tyne, shall be forthwith sequestered; and all such Monies as shall be raised thereby shall be also to the Use of the said Adventurers, upon Accompt, until the said Adventurers shall be reimbursed, according to the ensuing Propositions, and no longer.

"9. That all such Customs, Duties, and Imposts, as have been usually paid, or shall be thought fit to be paid, by any Ordinance of Parliament, for Coals, Salt, and Glass, within the said Town and County of Newcastle, the said Town of Sunderland, Blith, and the said Parts adjacent, shall be paid to the Use of the said Adventurers, upon Accompt, as aforesaid; that the said Committee shall have Power to propound all Officers for the Land Service of this Design to the Lord General, for his Approbation of them, who is hereby desired forthwith to grant Commissions to such Officers, so approved of by him, according to the Quality of their several Commands.

"10. That the said Committee shall have Power to propound all Officers for the Sea Service of this Design, to the Commissioners of the Admiralty and the Earl of Warwick, for their Approbation; and the said Earl of Warwicke is desired for the present to give Commissions and Instructions to the several Sea Officers, so approved of, according to the Nature of their several Employments.

"11. That all the Forces that shall be raised, by Land and Sea, for this Expedition, shall be Ordered and disposed by the said Committee; yet so as the said Land Forces shall be subject to the Command and Controll of the Lord General and the Lord Fairefax, and the Sea Forces subject to the Command and Controll of the Earl of Warwicke, in such Manner as shall most conduce to this present Expedition.

"12. That, when the said Towns of Newcastle, Sunderland, and Blith, and the Parts adjacent, now under the Power of the Earl of Newcastle, shall be freed from that grievous Oppression, and reduced under the Authority of King and Parliament; then it shall be lawful for the said Committee to pay, or cause to be paid, to every Subscriber, for every Twenty Shillings which he shall have paid in for this Service, One Pound, Six Shillings, and Eight Pence, in such Manner as in the ensuing Article is expressed, and so after that Rate for a greater Sum: And, for the further Encouragement to this Design, it is Ordered and Ordained, That, until the said Towns of Newcastle, Sunderland, Blith, and the said Parts adjacent, be reduced, the Adventurers shall have Interest at Eight Pounds per Centum for their principal Adventure.

"13. That all such Persons as are within London, or within Five Miles thereof, shall subscribe and pay in a Third Part of the Sum subscribed within Ten Days after these Propositions shall be agreed upon by both Houses of Parliament, and another Third Part within Twenty-eight Days of such Subscription, and the last Third Part within Fifty-six Days after such Subscription; and all such Persons as, in any other Port, City, or Town, shall subscribe and pay in a Third Part of the Sum subscribed, to such Persons as shall be appointed by the said Committee to receive the same Subscriptions and Monies, within Ten Days after these Propositions shall be delivered to the Head Officers, or Head Officer, of such Port, City, or Town, and shall pay in the other Two Parts as aforesaid, shall be re-paid their Monies, together with their Proceed, by equal Portions; and all such Persons as shall subscribe after the said Space of Ten Days, and pay in their Monies as aforesaid, shall be paid in such Order as they shall subscribe."

Adjourn.

House adjourned till 10a cras.

Footnotes

* Origin. Students.
* Origin. to be.
Origin. Middeton.
Origin and.
* Origin. Magadlens.
* Origin. Newcastle.
* Origin. Adventure.