House of Lords Journal Volume 6
17 June 1643

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'House of Lords Journal Volume 6: 17 June 1643', Journal of the House of Lords: volume 6: 1643 (1767-1830), pp. 99-101. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=37274 Date accessed: 02 August 2014.


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DIE Sabbati, videlicet, 17 die Junii.

PRAYERS.

Earl of Manchester was Speaker this Day.

Newton discharged from his Arrest.

Ordered, That Mr. Newton, being arrested in London, coming hither about Business, for cutting of a Bank Two Years (fn. *) ago, shall be discharged from the said Arrest.

Lady Holland, a Pass.

Ordered, That Sir Jo. Holland's Lady shall have a Pass, to go beyond the Seas, with her Family.

Message from the H. C. with an Alteration in the Ordinance for the Assembly;

A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Mr. Rows; which consisted of these Particulars:

1. To desire their Lordships to agree with them, in an Alteration in the Ordinance for the Assembly; videlicet, after the Words ["Judicious Divines"], and before the Words ["to consult"], in the Second Page and Fourth Line, add these Words ["who, together with some Members of both Houses of Parliament, are"].

Agreed to.

for an Answer about sending Commissioners to Scotland;

2. The House of Commons desires their Lordships Answer, concerning more Commissioners to be named to be sent into Scotland; and to (fn. †) deliver their Lordships the Order of the 25th of May.

Ordered, That an Earl be named, to join with the Lord Grey of Warke, to go into Scotland; and the Lord Grey to be sent for, to go.

for a Public Thanksgiving;

3. They desire their Lordships to appoint a Day for a Public Thanksgiving through the whole Kingdom, for the late Discovery of the Plot.

Ordered, To be on Tuesday come Three Weeks.

for the Covenant to be taken by the whole Kingdom;

4. To desire their Lordships to appoint a Day, and some Course, where the Vow and Covenant shall be taken, by the Cities of London and Westm. and the whole Kingdom.

Ordered, That the Covenant be tendered to the Cities of London and Westm. on Sunday come Sevennight, in the Afternoon, in the Parish Churches; and, on the Day of the Thanksgiving, to the whole (fn. †) Kingdom, in the Parish Churches.

about the Education of Two Children of L. Arundel of Wardour.

5. They desire their Lordships to take into Consideration the Education of the Two Children of the Lord Arundell of Warder; and that Mr. Holbeach, of Felsted, in Essex, shall be desired to receive them into his House, and to take the Care and Tuition of the said Two Sons of the Lord Arundell of Warder.

Ordered, That this House appoints the Lord Viscount Say & Seale, Master of the Wards, to take Care of the placing of the said Children at Mr. Holbeach's House, or some Place convenient near him.

The Answer returned was:

Answer.

That their Lordships do agree with the House of Commons, in the Alteration in the Ordinance for the Assembly; that their Lordships are Resolved to name an Earl, to go with the Lord Grey of Warke into Scotland; that their Lordships have appointed Tuesday come Three Weeks for the Day of General Thanksgiving through the Kingdom, for the late Discovery; that their Lordships have appointed the Covenant to be tendered to the Cities of London and Westm. on Sunday come Sevennight, in the Afternoon, after Sermon, in the Parish Churches, and the whole Kingdom to take it on the Day of the General Thansgiving, in the Parish Churches; and concerning the Lord Arundell of Warder's Two Sons, their Lordships do agree that they shall be put into the Tuition and Care of Mr. Holbeach, and the Master of the Wards is appointed to take Care it be done accordingly.

Committee to consider of Propositions to be sent to the L. General, to be presented to the King, for an Accommodation.

It was moved, That something be considered of, to "be sent to the Lord General, to be presented to the King by him, for procuring and effecting a happy Peace and Reconcilement between the King and the Parliament."

And these Lords following were appointed to consider of the same:

E. Northumb.
E. Pembrooke.
E. Bedford.
E. Sarum.
E. Holland.
E. Denbigh.
L. Viscount Say & Seale.
L. Howard.

Message from the H. C. for the E. of Portland and L. Conway to be re-examined.

A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Sir Rob't Pye:

To desire that the Earl of Portland and the Lord Viscount Conway may be re-examined, and desire it may be at Weavers Hall.

Answer.

The Answer returned was:

That their Lordships will return an Answer by Messengers of their own.

Message to the H. C. about it.

A Message was sent to the House of Commons, by Dr. Aylett and Dr. Heath:

To let them know, that whereas they desire that the Earl of Portland and the Lord Viscount Conway may be re-examined at Weavers Hall, their Lordships are willing to examine them; but, in regard of the many (fn. *) Businesses, their Lordships have appointed the Place to be in the Lord Keeper's Lodging near this House, this Afternoon, at Three of the Clock; at which Time their Lordships will appoint that the Earl of Portland and the Lord Viscount Conway shall be brought at the Time appointed.

E. Portland and L. Conway, to be re-examined.

Ordered, That the Earl of Portland and the Lord Viscount Conway shall be brought before the Lords Committees this Afternoon, at Three of the Clock, to be re-examined.

Pickering and Smith, a Pass.

Ordered, That James Pickering, Thomas Smith, and others, shall have a Pass, to go to Oxfored, with their Horses and Servants, and return again to London.

Sequestration of the Profits of Boughton-Malherbe, from Mr. Barrel.

"The Petition of most of the Inhabitants of Boughton-Malherbe, in the County of Kent; shewing, that Rob't Barrell, Parson of the said Place, is a Man of a good Temporal Estate in Lands, to the Value of One Hundred and Seventy Pounds per Annum, besides his Personal Estate in Goods and Monies; and that he hath not been resident amongst the Petitioners by the Space of Twenty Years and upwards, and of late Times hath put in such Curates as have been unapt to teach, and corrupt in Judgement; and the said Barell himself a Person sequestered by Judgement of this House from his Parsonage at Maidston, and a notorious Drunkard: They desire their Lordships to ease them of such a heavy Burthen as Mr. Barrell is upon them; and to give Order that the Profits of the said Parsonage of Boughton may be sequestered into the Hands of responsible Persons, to be paid to a painful Minister, that shall be appointed to officiate there."

The House, taking this into Consideration, Ordered and Adjudged, "That the said Robert Barrell is hereby sequestered from the Profits and officiating of the said Parsonage of Boughton-Malherbe; and that the Profits of the said Parsonage shall be sequestered in the Hands of Anthony Dive, Ric'd Austen, Tho. Dive Senior, Wm. Pope, and James Weekes, and paid to such Person as this House shall hereafter nominate to officiate in the said Church."

Sir Anthony Genney released.

Ordered, That Sir Antho. Genney shall be released from his present Restraint, paying his Fees.

Message from the H. C. to expedite the Ordinance for raising Horses near London, and for a Conference about naming some Lords.

A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Mr. Wm. Stroude:

To desire their Lordships, from the House of Commons, to expedite the Ordinance formerly brought, for listing of Horses about London; also to desire a Conference, concerning the Examination of some Lords.

The Answer returned was:

Answer.

That their Lordships will give a present Conference, in the Painted Chamber, as is desired; and touching the Ordinance for listing of Horses, their Lordships will send an Answer by Messengers of their own.

The Messengers sent to the House of Commons return with this Answer:

That they have delivered their Message to the House of Commons, concerning the Earl of Portland and the Lord Viscount Conway; and they will return an Answer by Messengers of their own.

Report from the Committee, of the Petition to be presented to the King, for an Accommodation.

The Lord Viscount Say & Seale reported to the House the Effect of what the Committee had drawn up, to be presented to the King, for settling the Peace and Distractions of the Kingdom; which was read, as followeth, and approved of, and Ordered to be communicated to the House of Commons, at a Conference, and their Concurrence desired herein:

"May it please Your most Excellent Majesty,

"We, Your loyal Subjects, the Lords and assembled in Parliament, having a deep Sense of the present Miseries of this Your Kingdom, and of the Christian Blood, the Blood (fn. *) of Your Subjects, that hath been spilt in this unnatural War, to prevent the Desolation and Ruin of this Kingdom, the Destruction of Your People, and the Danger of Your own Royal Person and Children, do in all Humility again petition Your Majesty (the Armies being now drawn near together, before they be engaged in a Battle), that You will be pleased to accept of our humble Answer to Your Majesty's First Proposition, and agree unto the First Proposition presented unto You by the Hands of our Committees, for the Disbanding of all Armies, whereby Your Kingdom will be restored to the former happy Condition of Peace, and the sad Accidents and Consequences of Civil War be prevented; and, as the most likely Means to compose and settle these unhappy Differences between You and Your People, You will please to return to Your Parliament, Your Great and most Faithful Council, whose Advice Your Majesty will find more conducing to Your Greatness, Honour, and Safety, than the Counsels of some few about You, whose Counsels if they may prevail, we find all our Petitions and Endeavours for the Peace of this Kingdom to be fruitless. If God shall make us so happy as to incline Your Majesty's Heart to this our humble Petition, which Your Parliament and Kingdom may expect from Your Justice and Goodness, our Endeavours and Counsels shall all be directed to settle the true Protestant Religion, Your Majesty's just Rights, the Preservation and Safety of Your Royal Person and Children, the Laws of the Kingdom, the Liberties of the Subject, and Privileges of Parliament."

The House was adjourned during Pleasure, and the Lords went to the Conference; which being ended, the House was resumed.

Report of the Conference about examining some Lords.

The Speaker reported the Effect of this Conference: "That whereas the House of Commons sent to their Lordships, to desire that the Earl of Portland and the Lord Viscount Conway may be re-examined at Weavers Hall; and upon this their Lordships sent to the House of Commons, to let them know, that they had appointed them to be examined here, the House of Commons desire it may be at Weavers Hall, for these Reasons following:

1. Because they have many Witnesses to examine, and shall be forced to examine them apart, in several Rooms; therefore it will be a great Trouble and Inconvenience to bring the Witnesses hither.

"2. They shall have Occasion to draw up Interrogatories concerning some Persons that have been already examined in London, and examine some Prisoners in London.

"Likewise the House of Commons desires that their Lordships would give Power to the Lords Committees; to examine such Witnesses as the Committee of the House of Commons shall desire."

Upon these Reasons, this House Ordered and appointed the Lords Committees to meet at Weavers Hall this Afternoon; and have hereby Power to examine Witnesses, according to the Desire of the House of Commons.

Ordered, To have a Conference with the House of Commons on Monday next, touching the Petition to His Majesty, to be delivered in the same Manner as the Directions was for the Petition, when the King was at Shrewsbury.

L. Grey to attend the House.

Ordered, That the Lord Grey of Warke shall (fn. *) speedily attend this House as a Peer; and the Order to be sent inclosed to the Lord General, in a Letter from the Speaker.

Protection for Richmond Park;

Ordered, That a Protection be issued out, to preserve the New Great Park at Richmond.

and for Berkhamstead Park.

Ordered, That a Protection be granted, to preserve the Park and House of Barkhamsted.

Ordinances to be considered.

Ordered, That the Ordinance concerning the listing of Horses, and the Ordinance concerning the Prisoners, shall be taken into Consideration on Monday Morning next.

Dingley to officiate as Minister of Barnes, in the room of Cutts.

Upon the humble (fn. †) Petition of all the chief Inhabitants of Barnes, in the County of Surrey; shewing, "That whereas John Cutts, Parson of Barnes, hath been long absent from his Cure, and is with the King at Oxford, as hath been made appear before the Committee for Sequestrations, who have Ordered the Profits of his Living to be sequestered, whereby the Petitioners are destitute, and without any Preacher or Parson authorized to preach and teach there; (fn. ‡) they humbly pray that Mr. Rob't Dingley, an Orthodox, Pious, and Godly Divine, may, by Order of this House, be appointed to serve the Cure, and officiate there."

Hereupon this House Ordered, That the said Rob't Dingley is hereby approved of, and appointed by this House, to officiate and serve the Cure of Barnes, in the County of Surrey, in the Place of the said John Cutts, until the Pleasure of this House be further known; and that he receive and enjoy the Profits, Tithes, and Benefits of the same.

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