House of Lords Journal Volume 6
17 July 1643

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'House of Lords Journal Volume 6: 17 July 1643', Journal of the House of Lords: volume 6: 1643 (1767-1830), pp. 133-134. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=37297 Date accessed: 30 September 2014.


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DIE Lunæ, 17 die Julii.

PRAYERS.

Mordent, a Pass to France.

Ordered, That John Mordent Esquire shall have a Pass, to go into France.

Lake, a Pass.

Ordered, That a Servant of Mr. Lake shall have a Pass, to go to Oxford, and come back again.

Countess of Sunderland, a Pass.

Ordered, That the Countess of Sunderland shall have a Pass, to go to Oxford, and come back again.

Colonel Goringe, to be removed to The Tower.

The House being informed, "That Colonel Goringe is brought up a Prisoner, and is put into The Red Lyon Prison, which is not conceived to be a safe Place:" Hereupon this House thought it sit to remove him to The Tower, for his Safety:

And, in regard he is a Member of the House of Commons, a Message was sent, by Sir Ed. Leech and Doctor Heath,

Message to the H. C. about it.

To inform the House of Commons of it, and to desire them to join with their Lordships, that he may be removed to The Tower, for his Safety.

Covenant not to be pressed on the Assembly of Divines.

Ordered, That the Prolocutor of the Assembly shall be desired to forbear the pressing of the Covenant to the Assembly, until this House have a Conference with the House of Commons about it, and further Directions be herein given.

Husbands sent for, for printing Things in the Name of this House.

Ordered, That Edward Husbands, Printer, shall be sent for, as a Delinquent, for printing Things in the Name of this House, and never any such Things passed here, and for putting the Name of the Clerk.

The Messengers return Answer from the House of Commons:

Answer.

That they will send Answer by Messengers of their own.

Message from the H. C. about Colonel Goring's Consinement;

A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Mr. Serjeant Wilde:

1. To let their Lordships know, that when Colonel Goringe was brought to Town, and placed at The Red Lyon, the Committee for the Safety did give Order to remove him to Peter House, where now he is; and the Committee for the Safety may consider of his Safety.

to expedite the Explanation of the Ordinance for Sequestrations;

2. To desire their Lordships would please to give Expedition in the Ordinance for Explanation of the Ordinance for Sequestrations.

Ordered, To be taken into Consideration To-morrow Morning.

and to expedite the One for abolishing superstitious Monuments, &c.

3. To desire Expedition in the Ordinance for abolishing superstitious Pictures and Images.

The Answer returned was:

Answer.

That their Lordships will take the Two Ordinances mentioned in this Message into speedy Consideration.

Earl of Portland's Petition for a speedy Trial.

A Petition of the Earl of Portland was read; desiring "That he may be speedily brought to a legal Trial, or restored to his Liberty and Estate."

To be released, if no further Accusation comes from the H. C.

Ordered, To send to the House of Commons, to let them know, that their Lordships think it fit, that, if within few Days the House of Commons do not make a further Accusation against the Earl of Portland, or further make Use of his Examination, their Lordships intend to grant him that Liberty, for himself and his Family, as is desired in the Petition.

Sir John Conyers's Petition, for Leave to go to Holland.

A Petition of Sir John Conyers Knight, Lieutenant of The Tower of London; desiring, "That himself and his Lady may have Leave to go into Holland, for Three Months; and that he may have (fn. *) Leave to depute such a Deputy as shall be approved of by the Committee for the Safety."

Ordered, To comunicate this Petition to the House of Commons, and desire them that the said Petition be referred to the Consideration of the Committee for the Safety.

Message to the H. C. with this and the E. of Portland's Petition.

A Message was sent to the House of Commons, by Sir Edw. Leech and Doctor Heath:

To communicate the Petition of the Earl of Portland, with their Lordships Sense thereupon; and likewise to deliver to them the Petition of the Lieutenant of The Tower of London, desiring that the same may be committed to the Consideration of the Committee for the Safety.

The Messengers return this Answer from the House of Commons:

Answer.

That they will send an Answer, concerning the Petitions of the Earl of Portland and Sir John Conyers, by Messengers of their own.

Lord Grey, to prepare to go to Scotland.

Ordered, That this House insists upon their former Order, touching sending the Lord Grey of Werke into Scotland; and his Lordship is to be commanded to obey their Lordships Order accordingly. And the Speaker, by Directions of this House, was to let his Lordship know so much.

His Lordship answered, "He was not able, in regard of his ill Health."

Hereupon his Lordship was commanded to withdraw.

Desires to be excused on account of his ill Health.

The Lord Grey of Warke desired, "That he might be excused from going as a Committee into Scotland, in regard he hath such an ill Disposition of Body, as would not endure the Sea."

Upon this, the House commanded his Lordship to withdraw, and then they would take the same into Consideration. And the House considering the whole Progress of this Business, and how, upon his Lordship's Submission to the Pleasure of this House, their Lordships had appointed a peremptory Day for his going, and acquainted the House of Commons therewith at a Conference; their Lordships Ordered, To insist upon their former Order, for his Lordship's going to Scotland.

Committee to tell him that the House insists upon his going;

Upon this, the House appointed the Earls of Pembrooke, Denbigh, and Bollingbrooke, to acquaint his Lordship with the Sense of the House: And being returned, their Lordships reported, "That they had acquainted the Lord Grey with their Lordships Resolution; and his Lordship returned Answer:

will submit to go upon Terms,

That he submitted to go, if the House did command him; but desired them to present to this House, in his Behalf, Two humble Requests;

1. That he might enjoy his Place of Command in the Army.

"2. That, when he had been in Scotland a while, and he had settled Affairs there in some Forwardness, if he found his Health so ill that he could not stay there without Prejudice both of his Health and the Service, that, upon his humble Suit to their Lordships, and Information thereof, he might be permitted to return Home."

which are rejected.

But this House not thinking it fit to have Conditions put upon them; Ordered, That the Lord Grey should be called in, and be commanded to obey the Orders of this House; which accordingly he was.

And the Speaker told his Lordship the Order and Command of this House, and desired his positive Answer therein.

He refuses to go.

And his Lordship's Answer was, "That he was not able to go, in regard of his ill Health.

Hereupon his Lordship was commanded to withdraw; and their Lordships took this Business into further Consideration, and were of Opinion, That this Answer of his Lordship's was an absolute Denial, considering what Answer he had returned by the Lords; and that the Honour of this House was to be vindicated, by some exemplary Punishment for the Disobedience to the Order and Commands of this House.

Lord Grey committed to The Tower.

Therefore this House Ordered, That the Lord Grey of Warke, for his Disobedience to the Order and Command of this House, shall be presently committed to The Tower of London, there to remain during the further Pleasure of this House.

Adjourn.

House adjourned till 10a cras.

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* Deest in Originali.