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House of Lords Journal Volume 6
3 November 1643

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'House of Lords Journal Volume 6: 3 November 1643', Journal of the House of Lords: volume 6: 1643 (1767-1830), pp. 293-294. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=37384 Date accessed: 21 April 2014. Add to my bookshelf


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DIE Veneris, 3 die Novembris.

PRAYERS.

Lords present:

Lord Gray of Warke, Speaker.

Comes Northumb.
Comes Pembrooke.
Comes Lyncolne.
Comes Bollingbrooke.
Comes Stamford.
L. Viscount Say & Seale.
Comes Rutland.
Ds. Wharton.
Ds. Howard.

Answer from the H. C.

Sir Rob't Rich and Mr. Page return this Answer from the House of Commons:

That (fn. *) they agree to the Ordinance concerning Sir Oliver Fleminge.

2. They agree to adding of the Lord Wharton to the Lord Viscount Say and the Lord Howard, to treat with the Scotts Commissioners.

3. Concerning adding Dr. Homes, Mr. Horton, and Mr. Goodwin, to the Assembly, they will send an Answer by Messengers of their own.

E. of Bridgewater will consider of the Covenant.

The Clerk of the Parliament made Report to this House, "That, according to their Lordships Command, he attended the Earl of Bridgwater, to know his Pleasure concerning the taking of the Covenant; and his Lordship, after reading of it, said, There were many Things in it as his Heart went along with; but there were other Things which he did not understand, and was doubtful of; therefore he desires Time to consider, and satisfy himself of them."

Committees to meet, to consider about relieving Plymouth.

It was moved, "That, the Town of Plymouth being now besieged, and it being of that great Importance if it should be lost, That there may be a Committee of Lords and Commons, with a proportionable Number of the House of Commons, to meet speedily, and consider of what is fit to be done speedily, for the Relieving and Preservation of that Town."

Ordered, That
The Earl of Northumberland,
The Earl of Pembrooke, and
The Lord Viscount Say & Seale, and
Lord Wharton,

Or any One of them, are hereby appointed to meet with a Committee of the House of Commons presently, to take this Business into Consideration; and to have Power to adjourn from Time to Time, as they shall appoint.

Message to the H. C. about it.

A Message was sent to the House of Commons, by Sir Edward Leech and Mr. Page, with the Message as aforesaid.

Langham's Business.

Ordered, That the Earls of Pembrooke, Lyncolne, and Bollingbrooke, and the Lord Wharton, are added to the Committee for the Business concerning Alderman Langham, &c.

Sir Henry Mildmay accuses L. Wharton of having made his Peace with the King.

L. Murray to be examined about it.

This House was informed, "That Sir Henry Mildmay, a Member of the House of Commons, hath spoken some scandalous Speeches of the Lord Wharton, That he hath made his Peace with the King; and that Sir Henry Mildmay said, That the Lord Murrey would make Proof of it, who is presently to go for Scotland:" Therefore it was moved, for the Examination thereof, and the Vindication of the Lord Wharton, That a Committee of both Houses may be nominated, to examine the Lord Murrey concerning this Business."

Hereupon this House appointed,
The Earls of Northumb. and
Pembrooke, and
The Earl of Bollingbrooke, and
The Lord Viscount Say & Seale,

Or any Two of them, to join with a proportionable Number of the House of Commons, to examine the Lord Murrey, and to communicate this Business to the House of Commons at a Conference.

Message to the H. C. for a Conference about it.

A Message was sent to the House of Commons, by Sir Rob't Rich and Mr. Page:

To desire a Conference, concerning a Wrong done to a Member of this House.

The Earl of Lyncolne informed this House, "That he having a Pass of Colonel Manwaringe's, to pass in and out of the Court of Guards; and Yesterday his Lordship going abroad to take the Air, (fn. *) the Officers of the Court of Guard searched his Mens Pockets; and, if his Lordship had not been (fn. †) past, they would have searched his Pockets likewise:"

Peers and their Servants not to be searched at the Courts of Guard.

Captain of the Guard at Hyde Park sent for, for searching the E of Lincoln's Servants.

Hereupon this House took this as a great Disrespect to the Members of this House: Ordered, That the Militia of the City of London have Notice of this uncivil Carriage to Peers and their Servants; and they are to be required to give special Order to those that are appointed to (fn. ‡) keep the Court of Guards, that they do no such Uncivility to Peers, or their Servants that attend upon them; and that the Captain, or he that commanded the Court of Guard Yesterday at Hyde Parke, shall be sent for, to attend this House forthwith, to answer the same.

The Messengers sent to the House of Commons return with Answer:

Answers from the H. C.

That they have appointed a Committee of their House, to meet the Committee of Lords presently, concerning Plymouth; and have given them Power to adjourn from Time to Time.

The Messengers return with this Answer from the House of Commons:

That they will give a present Conference, as is desired.

This House was adjourned during Pleasure, and the Lords went to the Conference; which being ended, the House was resumed.

Message from the H. C. about Preservation of Poole and Lyme;

A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Mr. Earle Esquire, &c.

1. To desire that the Consideration of the Preservation of Poole and Lyme may be referred to the Care of the Committee for Plymouth.

Agreed to.

and with Names of Deputy Lieutenants for Kent.

2. To desire Concurrence in the nominating of these Persons following, to be Deputy Lieutenants for the County of Kent:

Sir Peter Godfry Knight.
John Browne Esquire.
Richard Beale Esquire.
Captain Kenricke.
Captain Humfry Scott.
Lambart Godfry Esquire.
Captain Thomas Plumer.

Agreed to.

The Answer returned was:

Answer.

That this House agrees with the House of Commons in all the Particulars of this Message.

Message from the H. C. about examining L. Murray, touching the Report about L. Wharton;

A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Mr. Earle Esquire, &c.

1. To let their Lordships know, that they have appointed a Committee, to meet with the Committee of Lords, to examine the Lord Murry; and desire their Lordships to appoint the Time and Place.

Ordered, To be presently, in the Lord Keeper's Room.

to expedite the Ordinance for associating Kent, Sussex, &c.

2. To desire Expedition to the Ordinance concerning the Association of Kent, Sussex, &c.

and with Names to be added to the Committee of Safety.

3. To desire Concurrence, that Sir Arthur Haselrigg and Sir Peter Wentworth may be added to the Committee for the Safety.

(fn. *) The Answer returned was:

Answer.

That their Lordships have appointed the Committee to meet presently, in the Lord Keeper's Lodgings; that their Lordships agree to the adding Sir Arthur Haselrigg and Sir Peter Wentworth, to be of the Committee for the Safety; and concerning the Ordinance for associating of Kent, &c. their Lordships will send an Answer by Messengers of their own.

L. Murray sworn, to give Evidence about L. Wharton.

Next, the Lord Murrey was sworn, at this Bar, to answer to such Questions as should be asked him by the Committee of Lords and Commons, concerning the Lord Wharton and Sir Henry Mildmay.

Adjourn.

House adjourned till 9a cras.

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