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House of Lords Journal Volume 6
8 November 1643

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'House of Lords Journal Volume 6: 8 November 1643', Journal of the House of Lords: volume 6: 1643 (1767-1830), pp. 298-300. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=37388 Date accessed: 26 July 2014.


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DIE Mercurii, 8 die Novembris.

PRAYERS.

Lords present:

Ds. Grey of Warke, Speaker.

Comes Lyncolne.
Comes Bollingbrooke.
Comes Suffolke.
Comes Northumb.
Comes Pembrooke.
Comes Sarum.
L. Viscount Say & Seale.
Comes Rutland.
Comes Denbigh.
Ds. Hunsden.
Ds. Howard.
Ds. Bruce.

Orders from the H. C. for Concurrence.

An Order to pay One Thousand Forty-eight Pounds, Fifteen Shillings, and Two Pence, to Mr. Lyon Beecher, for Provision for Ireland. (Here enter it.)

Agreed to.

An Order to sequester the Rents of Thomas Rowe, in actual Rebellion in the Isle of Jarsey. (Here enter it.)

Agreed to.

Names to be added to the Committee for Hertford.

The Names of divers Persons of the Inhabitants of Edmunton were read, to be added to the Committees for the County of Hartford; videlicet,

John Wroth Esquire,
John Evington Gentleman.
Rob't Curtis.
Hugh Constable.
Jasper Draper Gentleman.
John Cornish.
Rob't Moreton.
Ric'd Nicolls.
James Marsh.
John Grey.
Tho. Boulston.
Captain John Harvey.
John White.
Hugh Constable.
Ralph Johnson.
Nic. Sterne.
Christopher Hill.
Edward Nicolls.
Anthony Bigg.

Agreed to.

Earl of Suffolk's Cause, concerning the Manors of Framingham, &c.

Whereas there is a Cause depending in this House, upon the Petition of the Earl of Suff. complaining of "Two Recoveries suffered against him in his Infancy, of the Manors of Framingham, &c. which Business is now by the Defendants prosecuted against his Lordship, in the Committee of the House of Commons for Obstructions:" Hereupon this House Ordered, That the said Cause shall be retained here, and no Prosecution of the Business in any other Court, nor no Estates to be made out of the said Lands.

Message from the H. C. to sit a while;

A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Sir Walter Erle Knight, &c.

1. To desire their Lordships would please to sit a while.

Agreed to.

to adjourn till Friday;

2. To let their Lordships know, that, in regard Committees might have more Time to follow some Business much concerning the present Affairs of the Kingdom, they are Resolved to adjourn their House until Friday next, and desire their Lordships to adjourn this House likewise, if it may stand with their Lordships Pleasure.

Agreed to.

and to expedite the Ordinance about the Great Seal.

3. To desire their Lordships would expedite the Ordinance concerning the Great Seal.

The Answer returned was:

Answer.

That this House intends to sit a while; and that their Lordships agree to adjourn this House until Friday next: Touching the Ordinance concerning the Great Seal, this House will send an Answer by Messengers of their own.

Captain Bushy recommended to command in the Earl of Lincoln's House, which is fortified, in Lincolnshire.

The Earl of Lyncolne acquainted this House, "That a House of his is fortified, in the County of Lyncolne; but he that is Commander in Chief is a Person very unruly, and suffers great Abuses and Loss to be committed upon his House, Tenants, and Provisions; therefore desired that, before (fn. *) the Earl of Manchester goes into the Country, this House will give the Earl of Manchester some Directions, that such a Commander may be put in as will not suffer such Disorders:" Hereupon, at the Suit of the Earl of Lyncolne, it is Ordered, That Captain Bushy, who was formerly put into Tattershall Castle by the Committee, with the Consent of the Earl of Lyncolne, shall be recommended to the Earl of Manchester, and he desired by this House to put the said Captain Bushy again in that Castle as Commander; and Captain Harrison, who now commands in it, may be put out.

Message from the H. C. for their Speaker to be Master of the Rolls.

A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Denzell Holles Esquires:

1. To desire their Lordships Concurrence in an Ordinance for making Wm. Lenthall Esquire, Speaker of the House of Commons, Master of the Rolls.

(Here enter it.)

Agreed to.

The Answer returned was:

Answer.

That this House agrees with the House of Commons in this Ordinance.

Lincolnshire Gentlemen desired to repair Home.

Upon Information to this House, "That there be divers Gentlemen of great Quality now in Town, of the County of Lyncolne, that are able to do very good Service in that County if they were present there:"

It is Ordered, That Sir John Brounloe, Sir Wm. Brownloe, Thomas Lister, Wm. Savill, and John Archer, Sir Tho. Trollop, and Mr. Wm. Berry, and such other Gentlemen as are in Town as be serviceable to the Commonwealth in that County, shall be desired, from this House, forthwith to repair to their several Habitations in the County of Lyncolne; and the Earl of Lyncolne is hereby desired to give them Notice of it.

Order for 1048 l. 15s. 2d. to Lyon Beecher, for Provisions for Ireland.

Upon Mr. Goodwin's Report from the Committee for Irish Affairs, "That Mr. Lyon Beecher hath delivered, at Youghall, Corn and other Victuals, as appears by the Certificate of Richard Myres Commissary, and certified by the Earl of Corke, and is recommended by the Letter of the Lord Inchequin, as amount to the Sum of Seventy-six Pounds and Nineteen Shillings; and whereas the said Lyon Beecher hath delivered at Youghall aforesaid, Wheat, Peas, and Butter, to the Value of Nine Hundred Thirty Three Pounds, Nine Shillings, Six Pence, as appears by the Certificate of John Fountaine Commissary, and attested by the Earl of Corke, and recommended by the Lord Inchequin; and whereas also the said Lyon Beecher hath delivered at Corke Butter to the Value of Thirty-seven Pounds, Six Shillings, Eight Pence, as appears by the Certificate of John Hodder Commissary there, and attested and recommended by the Lord Inchequin; which several Sums of Money, (fn. *) amounting to One Thousand Fortyeight Pounds, Fifteen Shillings, and Two Pence, were disbursed for Provisions for the Regiments thereabouts: It is this Day Ordered, by the Lords and Commons in Parliament, That the said Lyon Beecher shall be paid the said several Sums of Money abovenamed, out of the Adventurers-money for Ireland, and such Monies as shall be next raised for the Defence of Ireland; and that the Treasurers or Receivers of those Monies do pay the same unto Mr. Nicholas Loftus Esquire, Treasurer at Wars for that Kingdom, to be by him paid over unto the said Lyon Beecher or his Assigns, and to be defalked upon the Pay of the Soldiers of those Regiments, according to the usual Manner in like Cases."

Order to sequester the Rents of Thomas Rowe, in Arms against the Parliament in Jersey.

"Whereas Thomas Rowe, Porter of the Old Castle, in the Isle of Jarsey, and divers others, are now in actual Rebellion in the said Isle, whereby their Estates ought to be sequestered by virtue of the late Ordinances of both Houses of Parliament for Sequestrations; and whereas this House is informed that Robert Spurling, of Woodstreete, London, Plumber, and divers others, have Arrears of Rent and other Monies in their Hands, of the said Thomas Rowe, and of divers others in actual Rebellion in the Isle aforesaid: Be it Ordered, by the Lords and Commons assembled in Parliament, That the said Robert Spurling and every other Person or Persons having any Arrears of Rents, Sums of Money, or other Profits whatsoever, of the said Thomas Rowe, or of any other Person or Persons now in actual Rebellion in the said Island, shall forthwith pay the same to Leonard Litcott, Lieutenant Governor of the Isle of Jersey, or to any Person or Persons whom the said Lieutenant Governor shall appoint to receive the same; which said Monies, Arrears of Rents, and Profits, are to be employed upon Accompt in the said Island, by the Direction of the said Lieutenant Governor, for the Service of the Parliament."

Ordinance for Mr. Lenthall, Speaker of the H. C. to be Master of the Rolls.

"Whereas the Place and Office of the Keeper or Master of the Rolls, Books, Writs, and Records, of the Chancery of England, lately became void by the Death of Sir Charles Cesar Knight, since which Time divers Profits belonging to the same have been by sundry Persons received; and whereas the said Place and Office, being of great Trust and Consequence, was, soon after the Death of the said Sir Charles Cesar, designed by the Votes of the Lords and Com mons in Parliament assembled to William Lenthall Esquire, Speaker of the House of Commons: Now, for the further settling and establishing of the said Office and Place, according to the said Votes and Declarations, be it Ordained, by the Lords and Commons in Parliament assembled, That the said Place and Office of Keeper or Master of the Rolls, Books, Writs, and Records of the Chancery of England shall be, remain, and continue, to the said William Lenthall; and he, the said William Lenthall, shall be, remain, and continue, Keeper or Master of the said Rolls, Books, Writs, and Records, and of every of them; and shall enjoy the same Place and Office, together with all and singular Wages, Fees, Rewards, Emoluments, Profits, Rights, Liberties, Pre-eminencies, and Powers of granting Offices or Clerkships whatsoever, to the said Place or Office in any Wise belonging or appertaining.

"And it is also further by the Authority aforesaid Ordained, That the said William Lenthall shall have the Custody or Keeping of the House or Hospital of the Converts, situate in Chauncery Lane, in the Parish of St. Dunstans in the West, London, and being from ancient Time to this Day appointed, continued, and annexed to the said Office, for the Habitation of the Keeper or Master of the Rolls, Books, Writs, and Records, together with all Buildings, Yards, Gardens, and Orchards, to the said House or Hospital in any Wise pertaining or belonging, to have, hold, enjoy, and use the said Office of Keeper or Master of the Rolls, Books, Writs, and Records aforesaid, and the Keeping or Custody of the said House or Hospital, and all and every other the Premises, with their Appurtenances, by himself, or by his sufficient Deputy or sufficient Deputies, Quam diu se bene gesserit, in as ample and full Manner as any other Person or Persons whatsoever, heretofore enjoying or exercising the said Place or Office, have had, held, enjoyed, or used.

"And further also be it Ordained, by Authority aforesaid, That the said William Lenthall shall take, receive, and enjoy, all and every the Rights, Duties, Fees, and Profits whatsoever, that have been received, or have grown due, as to or in regard of the said Office, or might by reason thereof have been enjoyed at any Time since the Death of the said Sir Charles Cesar, in whose Hands soever the said Profits or Fees now remain: Provided nevertheless, and be it by the Authority aforesaid further Ordained, That the Order or Ordinance made by the said Lords and Commons on the 31st Day of October last, 1643, for the sequestering of the Office of the Clerk and Keeper of the Records in The Tower of London, shall remain, continue, and be in full Force, according to the Purport and Intent thereof; any Clause, Matter, or Thing, in this present Ordinance, to the contrary notwithstanding."

Adjourn.

House adjourned till 10a, Friday next.

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